WEBVTT 00:00:03.903 --> 00:00:05.744 [Ideas that transform] 00:00:05.744 --> 00:00:10.389 (Music) 00:00:10.389 --> 00:00:14.023 (Applause) 00:00:19.063 --> 00:00:22.344 Thank you. You are very kind. 00:00:22.344 --> 00:00:24.794 I'm not that techie. 00:00:24.794 --> 00:00:27.827 I don't have a tablet, yet. 00:00:27.827 --> 00:00:31.822 This being said, I'll call to my tech side 00:00:31.822 --> 00:00:34.537 and present you my notebook. 00:00:34.552 --> 00:00:36.903 (Laughter) 00:00:36.903 --> 00:00:39.990 This notebook has been with me for many, many trips 00:00:39.990 --> 00:00:44.293 and... this is the pen to touch the notebook's screen. 00:00:46.873 --> 00:00:50.855 It's wireless, as you can see, very updated. 00:00:51.762 --> 00:00:54.616 When I was proposed to speak in front of you, 00:00:56.936 --> 00:01:01.554 besides being glad and flattered with the idea, I told them: 00:01:04.004 --> 00:01:08.255 "What should I speak about? It's about sharing experiences, right?" 00:01:08.255 --> 00:01:12.640 And then, an interview that Bacanal magazine 00:01:12.640 --> 00:01:15.105 did with me recently crossed my mind. 00:01:15.105 --> 00:01:18.555 It's a magazine about bon vivants, about drinking expensive wines, 00:01:18.555 --> 00:01:21.515 and eating in opulent restaurants. 00:01:21.605 --> 00:01:25.816 The reporter titled the interview "Living From Air". 00:01:27.936 --> 00:01:32.584 And I was really surprised, because I suddenly understood that, 00:01:32.584 --> 00:01:36.222 everything I did during my life, 00:01:36.272 --> 00:01:40.921 or at least in the last 40 years, was to live from air. 00:01:42.451 --> 00:01:47.338 Right? Literally living from air, because everything I do, is air. 00:01:47.338 --> 00:01:50.303 It doesn't exist. Can't be seen, can't be touched. 00:01:50.303 --> 00:01:54.015 It's an idea, and an idea is like the air, right? 00:01:54.015 --> 00:01:56.352 When we think, our ideas are not in any specific place, 00:01:56.362 --> 00:01:57.749 they are "over there", in our minds. 00:01:57.749 --> 00:01:59.616 That's the imagination. 00:01:59.616 --> 00:02:02.065 It's the imagination of the others and the words, 00:02:02.065 --> 00:02:04.594 which carry the idea through the air. 00:02:04.594 --> 00:02:07.467 What I do in radio can't be touched, can't be seen, but still, 00:02:07.467 --> 00:02:10.340 you end up seeing it in the mind, 00:02:10.340 --> 00:02:13.213 in the imagination of those who are listening to the radio. 00:02:13.213 --> 00:02:16.422 This is why I always compare the radio with literature, 00:02:16.642 --> 00:02:20.095 because a book is the same, even though it is not air. 00:02:20.115 --> 00:02:22.118 It's paper, and it's ink. 00:02:22.128 --> 00:02:26.237 But we all read the same book. 00:02:26.237 --> 00:02:29.796 For instance, that novel which may be written in another language, 00:02:29.806 --> 00:02:32.262 but the words are the same, from the same author, 00:02:32.262 --> 00:02:34.718 black ink over white paper. 00:02:34.718 --> 00:02:37.176 Identical, equal, similar. 00:02:37.176 --> 00:02:42.603 However, the image that is being formed while reading that novel 00:02:42.650 --> 00:02:47.645 is completely different in each one of the heads reading it. 00:02:47.645 --> 00:02:49.858 It's full of subjetivity. 00:02:49.858 --> 00:02:53.064 It's about our experiences, it's about our hard drive, 00:02:53.064 --> 00:02:54.975 it's about what happened in our lives. 00:02:54.975 --> 00:02:59.499 So we imagine the same in a personal way, in a different way. 00:02:59.499 --> 00:03:03.328 And that's radio, right? 00:03:03.328 --> 00:03:04.919 It's words, is air. 00:03:04.919 --> 00:03:09.510 Words that travel through the air, sounds that travel through the air. 00:03:09.540 --> 00:03:12.493 And depending on who we are, our background, 00:03:12.503 --> 00:03:15.376 the way we live and the culture we have 00:03:15.386 --> 00:03:17.576 and what we've learned and the parents we had... 00:03:17.576 --> 00:03:19.936 we are going to handle it differently, 00:03:19.946 --> 00:03:22.876 and we are going to include different images. 00:03:22.916 --> 00:03:26.257 small or big differences, but different. 00:03:26.257 --> 00:03:28.923 So I think: "Wow! This guy could summarize 00:03:28.923 --> 00:03:31.289 with the words "living from air"", 00:03:31.299 --> 00:03:34.247 what I've done all my life, right? Which is, living from air. 00:03:34.257 --> 00:03:37.082 Living from this that can't be touched. The radio is air, is imagination, 00:03:37.082 --> 00:03:38.252 is ideas. 00:03:38.252 --> 00:03:43.617 If I remove the people from the radio, only antennas, transistors, disc players, 00:03:43.617 --> 00:03:45.572 mics would be left. 00:03:45.572 --> 00:03:47.616 But nothing would happen. 00:03:47.616 --> 00:03:50.219 We must put humanity in it, we need to put people, 00:03:50.219 --> 00:03:52.752 we need to put ideas and imagination, 00:03:52.762 --> 00:03:56.517 and there in the air, the images take shape and the speeches appear. 00:03:57.257 --> 00:04:00.097 Everything we listen to everyday appears. 00:04:00.097 --> 00:04:04.218 So then, I also think that the idea is air. 00:04:05.378 --> 00:04:07.998 I mean, radio is a concept, is ideas. 00:04:07.998 --> 00:04:10.577 It is someone who's thinking and saying things, 00:04:10.577 --> 00:04:13.707 or playing a guitar, or singing songs. 00:04:13.707 --> 00:04:15.303 And that's it. 00:04:15.303 --> 00:04:16.777 Radio is just that. It's pure sound. 00:04:16.777 --> 00:04:19.462 We can't add color, we can't add odour. 00:04:19.462 --> 00:04:23.248 It is just people speaking, people thinking, people with ideas, 00:04:23.248 --> 00:04:26.097 and I thought that the idea is also a bit similar to air. 00:04:26.097 --> 00:04:29.138 And what gets the radio going, which is the idea and the imagination, 00:04:29.138 --> 00:04:31.415 is also what keeps our lives going. 00:04:31.415 --> 00:04:33.257 Let me propose this exercise now: 00:04:33.257 --> 00:04:38.577 I've been 40 years on radio now, so I'm a well-known professional, 00:04:38.577 --> 00:04:41.557 more or less respected... sometimes. 00:04:43.177 --> 00:04:45.694 So why am I on radio? 00:04:45.694 --> 00:04:51.303 What exploded inside my head in order for me to spend more than 40...? 00:04:51.303 --> 00:04:53.617 Did I want to work on the radio or not? 00:04:53.617 --> 00:04:56.926 I ended up on radio because one day, Fernando Bravo 00:04:59.076 --> 00:05:03.020 came back to San Pedro with a brand new salmon-colored Peugeot. 00:05:03.020 --> 00:05:06.644 (Laughter) (Applause) 00:05:06.664 --> 00:05:08.478 That's the original idea. 00:05:08.478 --> 00:05:11.013 (Applause) 00:05:11.013 --> 00:05:14.141 That's the first idea, and I later painted it carrot-color. 00:05:14.141 --> 00:05:17.978 Right? Because it's just like the carrot and stick. 00:05:17.978 --> 00:05:19.313 The car was that. 00:05:19.313 --> 00:05:22.696 It took me a long time before I could buy a new car. 00:05:22.696 --> 00:05:25.737 And it wasn't salmon-colored, but carrot-colored, 00:05:25.737 --> 00:05:28.622 because it took me to the radio and I felt in love with it. 00:05:28.622 --> 00:05:32.374 With this radio that can't be seen, this radio where everything is possible. 00:05:32.374 --> 00:05:34.377 Where any story is possible. 00:05:34.377 --> 00:05:38.207 Where I can make a Spielberg movie with no dollars. 00:05:38.207 --> 00:05:42.136 Because special effects are sounds and we can even make them with the mouth. 00:05:42.136 --> 00:05:45.097 So I fell in love with this radio, 00:05:45.097 --> 00:05:48.576 this radio that you can't see, because of that idea of the new Peugeot, 00:05:48.576 --> 00:05:51.137 because we, who worked in San Pedro's radio, thought: 00:05:51.137 --> 00:05:54.022 "If he can, we can, too." 00:05:54.022 --> 00:05:56.660 So the idea transports you, the first blow, 00:05:56.660 --> 00:05:59.298 when you think about pursuing it. 00:05:59.298 --> 00:06:01.936 That is was we need to do, we must not lose it. 00:06:01.936 --> 00:06:05.854 Get hold of the idea, and go after it. 00:06:05.854 --> 00:06:10.881 The radio is a display of one senseless idea after another. 00:06:10.881 --> 00:06:15.339 Marconi didn't invent the radio in order to make the radio we know today, 00:06:15.339 --> 00:06:18.345 Marconi wanted to send wireless telegrams 00:06:18.375 --> 00:06:20.831 that could reach the ships, 00:06:20.851 --> 00:06:24.147 because the navy, the war, the armies needed it. 00:06:25.227 --> 00:06:28.133 Just two points joining: "beep, beep, beep, beep", 00:06:28.133 --> 00:06:29.737 and they were sending Morse. 00:06:29.737 --> 00:06:33.059 They wanted to take the wire off, so they racked their brains 00:06:33.059 --> 00:06:36.381 to find a system to transmit the sound, 00:06:36.381 --> 00:06:39.703 "beep, beep, beep, beep", and then they decoded the morse code, 00:06:39.703 --> 00:06:43.674 and they listened wirelessly, unplugged, for instance, 00:06:43.674 --> 00:06:46.816 off the shores in the deep sea, on the ships. 00:06:46.816 --> 00:06:51.736 The first guy who transmited voice over the radio that made "beep, beep" 00:06:51.736 --> 00:06:58.105 was a radio operator who was at the NYC port, just messing around. 00:06:58.105 --> 00:07:00.551 There were mics already. 00:07:00.561 --> 00:07:03.207 This device existed, too, so the guy thought: 00:07:03.227 --> 00:07:07.575 "What if I connect the mic to the beeper, to the beeper wires, 00:07:07.605 --> 00:07:11.172 and instead of going "beep, beep", I speak?" 00:07:11.172 --> 00:07:12.933 So he said: "Hello!" 00:07:12.933 --> 00:07:17.441 Can you imagine the shock every radio operator on the ships got? 00:07:17.461 --> 00:07:20.349 (Laughter) (Applause) 00:07:20.349 --> 00:07:24.058 Nobody had ever talked to them through the radio; radio didn't exist yet! 00:07:24.058 --> 00:07:29.452 And all of a sudden, not only did he speak and read the Bible, (Laughter) 00:07:29.482 --> 00:07:34.293 but he played the violin and really shocked everybody. 00:07:34.293 --> 00:07:39.113 It would be long before the radio turned into the kind of radio that feeds me 00:07:39.113 --> 00:07:41.619 from the air, and this thing that I live from air. 00:07:41.619 --> 00:07:43.852 Many times kids come to me and ask: 00:07:43.852 --> 00:07:50.572 "Has tech, Internet and PCs changed the radio much?" 00:07:50.572 --> 00:07:54.159 The truth is they haven't. Radio is still the same: 00:07:54.159 --> 00:07:57.746 a mic and some moron saying stupid things. 00:07:57.746 --> 00:08:01.333 Or in many cases, saying serious things, OK. 00:08:01.333 --> 00:08:08.452 But I mean, the greatest evolution in the radio, the greatest change 00:08:08.452 --> 00:08:13.252 was the transistor radio. Why? 00:08:13.252 --> 00:08:15.018 Another idea, that had nothing to do with it. 00:08:15.018 --> 00:08:20.453 The guy who invented the transistor didn't know that it was going to trigger 00:08:20.453 --> 00:08:23.812 the making of a really small radio that we could carry in our pockets 00:08:23.812 --> 00:08:26.051 with a set of headphones 00:08:26.051 --> 00:08:29.412 and that we could listen to the match at school, or at work. 00:08:30.532 --> 00:08:35.129 In 1930, the transistors were created and all that 00:08:35.129 --> 00:08:38.520 but it was only in the '50s when the transistor radios appeared. 00:08:38.520 --> 00:08:40.738 In other words, just the same way 00:08:40.738 --> 00:08:43.424 Fernando Bravo's car was a carrot, an idea, 00:08:43.445 --> 00:08:45.496 an idea that gets inside of you, and you search and look for it 00:08:45.496 --> 00:08:47.547 until the idea is fully developed 00:08:47.547 --> 00:08:49.598 and someone can make it possible. 00:08:49.598 --> 00:08:54.612 Nowadays, we listen to music on our smartphones or MP3 players, 00:08:54.612 --> 00:08:59.538 for me it is the same concept of a transistor radio, nothing changed. 00:08:59.538 --> 00:09:01.911 The really cool thing was that it wasn't plugged to a power supply, 00:09:01.931 --> 00:09:03.694 because it had a small battery 00:09:03.714 --> 00:09:05.199 and you could carry it in your pocket. 00:09:05.209 --> 00:09:07.489 Then the walkman appeared. A copy of the transistor radio. 00:09:07.489 --> 00:09:10.098 And then the MP3, a copy of the walkman. 00:09:10.098 --> 00:09:12.561 And now the smartphone, which is all that together but.... 00:09:12.561 --> 00:09:15.024 what is that, really? 00:09:15.024 --> 00:09:17.487 A small device that sounds in your ears. 00:09:17.487 --> 00:09:20.448 For me, the biggest challenge, maybe, technologically speaking, 00:09:20.448 --> 00:09:22.369 in that thing of the ideas, 00:09:22.379 --> 00:09:25.342 might be the rebirth of the cell phone. 00:09:26.372 --> 00:09:32.012 The cell phone is the most democratic thing on Earth. 00:09:32.012 --> 00:09:36.099 I've just heard a woman complaining on the radio, saying: 00:09:36.099 --> 00:09:38.379 "Hey, the poor people take the money 00:09:38.389 --> 00:09:40.829 and the first thing they buy is a cell phone." 00:09:40.839 --> 00:09:44.204 I understood the real democracy of the cell phone 00:09:44.234 --> 00:09:46.729 on a my way to dinner with friends, 00:09:46.729 --> 00:09:48.570 when I went by a group of poor guys collecting paper, 00:09:48.570 --> 00:09:50.411 and one of them was talking on a cellphone: 00:09:50.411 --> 00:09:52.253 "(beep, beep) I'm loading the stuff, please send me the truck." 00:09:52.253 --> 00:09:54.573 And I said to myself: "This is huge. 00:09:54.613 --> 00:09:57.166 They had no way to communicate before." 00:09:57.608 --> 00:10:03.529 The cell phone is absolutelly amazing and yet we haven't found a use for it. 00:10:04.250 --> 00:10:09.532 Maybe, that idea, the one that transforms, like the transistor, 00:10:09.532 --> 00:10:14.858 like the guy messing around who connected the mic to the wire. 00:10:14.858 --> 00:10:20.332 Maybe that is the idea missing if we want the cell phone to stop being the device 00:10:20.332 --> 00:10:25.327 with which the companies get their revenue, and start being that device 00:10:25.327 --> 00:10:30.172 that helps fill the holes in our society, sometimes far away, sometimes close, 00:10:30.172 --> 00:10:31.611 here, in Argentina. 00:10:31.611 --> 00:10:35.394 Education, for instance, and many, many other things. 00:10:36.974 --> 00:10:40.389 Living from air, is the demonstration that, 00:10:40.389 --> 00:10:43.454 to listen to the radio, we don't even need an antenna, 00:10:43.454 --> 00:10:46.870 we don't even need the transmiter, we don't even need the idea. 00:10:47.220 --> 00:10:51.291 In 1980, I traveled to Marocco. 00:10:52.551 --> 00:10:58.018 In Marrackech, at Jamaa el Fna square, I saw some guys standing on the benches 00:10:58.018 --> 00:11:00.812 and they were speaking to groups of people. 00:11:00.812 --> 00:11:03.904 One speaking to 10 people, another to 5, and then, 00:11:03.904 --> 00:11:06.996 one guy speaking to a group of 80 or 90 people. 00:11:06.996 --> 00:11:10.089 (Imitating Arabic) They spoke and people listened, 00:11:10.089 --> 00:11:12.852 and every now and then, the people dropped a coin and left. 00:11:12.852 --> 00:11:16.012 My guide was an Italian who spoke some Spanish, so I asked him: 00:11:16.012 --> 00:11:18.852 "What is he speaking about?" So he says: 00:11:18.852 --> 00:11:20.961 "The guy is broadcasting the news, 00:11:20.971 --> 00:11:23.900 because almost everyone here is an analphabet. 00:11:23.900 --> 00:11:28.619 So he listens to the news on the radio, retells it publicly and gets a few coins. 00:11:29.709 --> 00:11:33.514 And then I understood the term "rating". 00:11:33.984 --> 00:11:37.144 One had 5, the other had 100, 00:11:37.144 --> 00:11:41.063 and I asked myself why, if they must have listened to the same station 00:11:41.063 --> 00:11:45.140 and were telling the same things. So the guide said: 00:11:45.140 --> 00:11:49.363 "Yes, but the one with 80 people listening to him 00:11:49.383 --> 00:11:53.956 also tells jokes and gossips." (Laughter) 00:11:55.386 --> 00:11:58.135 So, radio is so much living from air, 00:11:58.145 --> 00:12:01.364 that you can make radio without a radio, just with people. 00:12:01.824 --> 00:12:05.045 I found it totally wonderful. 00:12:05.045 --> 00:12:09.207 I'm not denying technology, the hardware, 00:12:09.207 --> 00:12:13.303 I'm not denying everything we get from it everyday. 00:12:13.303 --> 00:12:17.663 Absolutely not. I was one of the first PC fans. 00:12:17.663 --> 00:12:22.149 When the first Commodore 64 appeared, they made us learn 00:12:22.149 --> 00:12:25.982 not just how to use it, but also how to program it. 00:12:25.982 --> 00:12:29.569 I started with Basic, then they wanted to make me learn Cobol, 00:12:29.569 --> 00:12:32.106 which was impossible to understand. 00:12:32.116 --> 00:12:36.543 And then, when the first sound editors appeared, the first digital editors, 00:12:36.743 --> 00:12:39.121 I was among the first ones uploading the tapes 00:12:39.121 --> 00:12:43.025 and starting with PCs, I kind of got addicted to PCs. 00:12:45.460 --> 00:12:47.919 And then I said: "OK, this is enough, 00:12:47.919 --> 00:12:49.988 I'll use them just for work, and the rest of my life 00:12:50.056 --> 00:12:54.295 can be written in this notebook, which might not be a tablet, 00:12:54.874 --> 00:12:57.832 but is a nice composition notebook. 00:12:58.274 --> 00:13:01.273 It can keep all my ideas, and in case of a blackout, 00:13:01.273 --> 00:13:04.540 I'll be able to read it with a candle. 00:13:04.540 --> 00:13:10.362 But, going back to living from air, and our talk this afternoon, 00:13:11.738 --> 00:13:15.575 we need to keep in mind that ideas rule. 00:13:15.575 --> 00:13:20.584 We might have computers, but what is going to lead our lives 00:13:20.584 --> 00:13:24.580 is our ideas and our own imagination. 00:13:25.623 --> 00:13:27.583 Ideas rule. 00:13:27.583 --> 00:13:29.779 They always did, they do now, 00:13:29.779 --> 00:13:33.043 and they will rule in every machine in the world 00:13:33.043 --> 00:13:35.775 which will join together to kick our asses. 00:13:35.775 --> 00:13:38.255 The idea of a lone thinking man, 00:13:38.265 --> 00:13:41.265 the idea of a man thinking when lights go out, 00:13:41.775 --> 00:13:44.777 a man thinking when nothing's left. 00:13:44.777 --> 00:13:48.817 The idea is the real thing, the idea makes us different. 00:13:48.817 --> 00:13:54.223 The idea is ours, and the idea is nothing. It's in the air, is pure imagination. 00:13:54.223 --> 00:13:57.857 It's like a cosmic nonsense in our heads, 00:13:57.857 --> 00:14:01.538 and if we use it right, it will get us that job 00:14:01.538 --> 00:14:04.302 that 10 other people already applied for. 00:14:04.302 --> 00:14:08.652 Who are they going to hire? The one who thinks better. 00:14:08.652 --> 00:14:11.497 Or, in any other aspect of life: 00:14:11.497 --> 00:14:14.497 Who is going to get there? The one with the best idea. 00:14:14.497 --> 00:14:20.145 Now, if you have good ideas, if you exercise your imagination, 00:14:20.145 --> 00:14:24.573 if you work hard, everything that is just going around in the air 00:14:24.573 --> 00:14:26.744 with curiosity, willing to play, 00:14:26.744 --> 00:14:29.618 and, on top of that, you have a few computers... 00:14:29.618 --> 00:14:33.189 Then, you are ramping up your speed. 00:14:33.189 --> 00:14:35.217 I could say that nothing will stop you, 00:14:35.217 --> 00:14:39.070 but, if the computer takes over you and you let it do it... 00:14:39.070 --> 00:14:41.803 you'd be in trouble. 00:14:41.991 --> 00:14:46.537 Because the day the computer takes over, it turns your brain off. 00:14:46.777 --> 00:14:50.168 I've learned that living from air. Thank you very much. 00:14:50.178 --> 00:14:55.416 (Applause)