1 00:00:03,903 --> 00:00:05,744 [Ideas that transform] 2 00:00:05,744 --> 00:00:10,389 (Music) 3 00:00:10,389 --> 00:00:14,023 (Applause) 4 00:00:19,063 --> 00:00:22,344 Thank you. You are very kind. 5 00:00:22,344 --> 00:00:24,794 I'm not that techie. 6 00:00:24,794 --> 00:00:27,827 I don't have a tablet, yet. 7 00:00:27,827 --> 00:00:31,822 This being said, I'll call to my tech side 8 00:00:31,822 --> 00:00:34,537 and present you my notebook. 9 00:00:34,552 --> 00:00:36,903 (Laughter) 10 00:00:36,903 --> 00:00:39,990 This notebook has been with me for many, many trips 11 00:00:39,990 --> 00:00:44,293 and... this is the pen to touch the notebook's screen. 12 00:00:46,873 --> 00:00:50,855 It's wireless, as you can see, very updated. 13 00:00:51,762 --> 00:00:54,616 When I was proposed to speak in front of you, 14 00:00:56,936 --> 00:01:01,554 besides being glad and flattered with the idea, I told them: 15 00:01:04,004 --> 00:01:08,255 "What should I speak about? It's about sharing experiences, right?" 16 00:01:08,255 --> 00:01:12,640 And then, an interview that Bacanal magazine 17 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:15,105 did with me recently crossed my mind. 18 00:01:15,105 --> 00:01:18,555 It's a magazine about bon vivants, about drinking expensive wines, 19 00:01:18,555 --> 00:01:21,515 and eating in opulent restaurants. 20 00:01:21,605 --> 00:01:25,816 The reporter titled the interview "Living From Air". 21 00:01:27,936 --> 00:01:32,584 And I was really surprised, because I suddenly understood that, 22 00:01:32,584 --> 00:01:36,222 everything I did during my life, 23 00:01:36,272 --> 00:01:40,921 or at least in the last 40 years, was to live from air. 24 00:01:42,451 --> 00:01:47,338 Right? Literally living from air, because everything I do, is air. 25 00:01:47,338 --> 00:01:50,303 It doesn't exist. Can't be seen, can't be touched. 26 00:01:50,303 --> 00:01:54,015 It's an idea, and an idea is like the air, right? 27 00:01:54,015 --> 00:01:56,352 When we think, our ideas are not in any specific place, 28 00:01:56,362 --> 00:01:57,749 they are "over there", in our minds. 29 00:01:57,749 --> 00:01:59,616 That's the imagination. 30 00:01:59,616 --> 00:02:02,065 It's the imagination of the others and the words, 31 00:02:02,065 --> 00:02:04,594 which carry the idea through the air. 32 00:02:04,594 --> 00:02:07,467 What I do in radio can't be touched, can't be seen, but still, 33 00:02:07,467 --> 00:02:10,340 you end up seeing it in the mind, 34 00:02:10,340 --> 00:02:13,213 in the imagination of those who are listening to the radio. 35 00:02:13,213 --> 00:02:16,422 This is why I always compare the radio with literature, 36 00:02:16,642 --> 00:02:20,095 because a book is the same, even though it is not air. 37 00:02:20,115 --> 00:02:22,118 It's paper, and it's ink. 38 00:02:22,128 --> 00:02:26,237 But we all read the same book. 39 00:02:26,237 --> 00:02:29,796 For instance, that novel which may be written in another language, 40 00:02:29,806 --> 00:02:32,262 but the words are the same, from the same author, 41 00:02:32,262 --> 00:02:34,718 black ink over white paper. 42 00:02:34,718 --> 00:02:37,176 Identical, equal, similar. 43 00:02:37,176 --> 00:02:42,603 However, the image that is being formed while reading that novel 44 00:02:42,650 --> 00:02:47,645 is completely different in each one of the heads reading it. 45 00:02:47,645 --> 00:02:49,858 It's full of subjetivity. 46 00:02:49,858 --> 00:02:53,064 It's about our experiences, it's about our hard drive, 47 00:02:53,064 --> 00:02:54,975 it's about what happened in our lives. 48 00:02:54,975 --> 00:02:59,499 So we imagine the same in a personal way, in a different way. 49 00:02:59,499 --> 00:03:03,328 And that's radio, right? 50 00:03:03,328 --> 00:03:04,919 It's words, is air. 51 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:09,510 Words that travel through the air, sounds that travel through the air. 52 00:03:09,540 --> 00:03:12,493 And depending on who we are, our background, 53 00:03:12,503 --> 00:03:15,376 the way we live and the culture we have 54 00:03:15,386 --> 00:03:17,576 and what we've learned and the parents we had... 55 00:03:17,576 --> 00:03:19,936 we are going to handle it differently, 56 00:03:19,946 --> 00:03:22,876 and we are going to include different images. 57 00:03:22,916 --> 00:03:26,257 small or big differences, but different. 58 00:03:26,257 --> 00:03:28,923 So I think: "Wow! This guy could summarize 59 00:03:28,923 --> 00:03:31,289 with the words "living from air"", 60 00:03:31,299 --> 00:03:34,247 what I've done all my life, right? Which is, living from air. 61 00:03:34,257 --> 00:03:37,082 Living from this that can't be touched. The radio is air, is imagination, 62 00:03:37,082 --> 00:03:38,252 is ideas. 63 00:03:38,252 --> 00:03:43,617 If I remove the people from the radio, only antennas, transistors, disc players, 64 00:03:43,617 --> 00:03:45,572 mics would be left. 65 00:03:45,572 --> 00:03:47,616 But nothing would happen. 66 00:03:47,616 --> 00:03:50,219 We must put humanity in it, we need to put people, 67 00:03:50,219 --> 00:03:52,752 we need to put ideas and imagination, 68 00:03:52,762 --> 00:03:56,517 and there in the air, the images take shape and the speeches appear. 69 00:03:57,257 --> 00:04:00,097 Everything we listen to everyday appears. 70 00:04:00,097 --> 00:04:04,218 So then, I also think that the idea is air. 71 00:04:05,378 --> 00:04:07,998 I mean, radio is a concept, is ideas. 72 00:04:07,998 --> 00:04:10,577 It is someone who's thinking and saying things, 73 00:04:10,577 --> 00:04:13,707 or playing a guitar, or singing songs. 74 00:04:13,707 --> 00:04:15,303 And that's it. 75 00:04:15,303 --> 00:04:16,777 Radio is just that. It's pure sound. 76 00:04:16,777 --> 00:04:19,462 We can't add color, we can't add odour. 77 00:04:19,462 --> 00:04:23,248 It is just people speaking, people thinking, people with ideas, 78 00:04:23,248 --> 00:04:26,097 and I thought that the idea is also a bit similar to air. 79 00:04:26,097 --> 00:04:29,138 And what gets the radio going, which is the idea and the imagination, 80 00:04:29,138 --> 00:04:31,415 is also what keeps our lives going. 81 00:04:31,415 --> 00:04:33,257 Let me propose this exercise now: 82 00:04:33,257 --> 00:04:38,577 I've been 40 years on radio now, so I'm a well-known professional, 83 00:04:38,577 --> 00:04:41,557 more or less respected... sometimes. 84 00:04:43,177 --> 00:04:45,694 So why am I on radio? 85 00:04:45,694 --> 00:04:51,303 What exploded inside my head in order for me to spend more than 40...? 86 00:04:51,303 --> 00:04:53,617 Did I want to work on the radio or not? 87 00:04:53,617 --> 00:04:56,926 I ended up on radio because one day, Fernando Bravo 88 00:04:59,076 --> 00:05:03,020 came back to San Pedro with a brand new salmon-colored Peugeot. 89 00:05:03,020 --> 00:05:06,644 (Laughter) (Applause) 90 00:05:06,664 --> 00:05:08,478 That's the original idea. 91 00:05:08,478 --> 00:05:11,013 (Applause) 92 00:05:11,013 --> 00:05:14,141 That's the first idea, and I later painted it carrot-color. 93 00:05:14,141 --> 00:05:17,978 Right? Because it's just like the carrot and stick. 94 00:05:17,978 --> 00:05:19,313 The car was that. 95 00:05:19,313 --> 00:05:22,696 It took me a long time before I could buy a new car. 96 00:05:22,696 --> 00:05:25,737 And it wasn't salmon-colored, but carrot-colored, 97 00:05:25,737 --> 00:05:28,622 because it took me to the radio and I felt in love with it. 98 00:05:28,622 --> 00:05:32,374 With this radio that can't be seen, this radio where everything is possible. 99 00:05:32,374 --> 00:05:34,377 Where any story is possible. 100 00:05:34,377 --> 00:05:38,207 Where I can make a Spielberg movie with no dollars. 101 00:05:38,207 --> 00:05:42,136 Because special effects are sounds and we can even make them with the mouth. 102 00:05:42,136 --> 00:05:45,097 So I fell in love with this radio, 103 00:05:45,097 --> 00:05:48,576 this radio that you can't see, because of that idea of the new Peugeot, 104 00:05:48,576 --> 00:05:51,137 because we, who worked in San Pedro's radio, thought: 105 00:05:51,137 --> 00:05:54,022 "If he can, we can, too." 106 00:05:54,022 --> 00:05:56,660 So the idea transports you, the first blow, 107 00:05:56,660 --> 00:05:59,298 when you think about pursuing it. 108 00:05:59,298 --> 00:06:01,936 That is was we need to do, we must not lose it. 109 00:06:01,936 --> 00:06:05,854 Get hold of the idea, and go after it. 110 00:06:05,854 --> 00:06:10,881 The radio is a display of one senseless idea after another. 111 00:06:10,881 --> 00:06:15,339 Marconi didn't invent the radio in order to make the radio we know today, 112 00:06:15,339 --> 00:06:18,345 Marconi wanted to send wireless telegrams 113 00:06:18,375 --> 00:06:20,831 that could reach the ships, 114 00:06:20,851 --> 00:06:24,147 because the navy, the war, the armies needed it. 115 00:06:25,227 --> 00:06:28,133 Just two points joining: "beep, beep, beep, beep", 116 00:06:28,133 --> 00:06:29,737 and they were sending Morse. 117 00:06:29,737 --> 00:06:33,059 They wanted to take the wire off, so they racked their brains 118 00:06:33,059 --> 00:06:36,381 to find a system to transmit the sound, 119 00:06:36,381 --> 00:06:39,703 "beep, beep, beep, beep", and then they decoded the morse code, 120 00:06:39,703 --> 00:06:43,674 and they listened wirelessly, unplugged, for instance, 121 00:06:43,674 --> 00:06:46,816 off the shores in the deep sea, on the ships. 122 00:06:46,816 --> 00:06:51,736 The first guy who transmited voice over the radio that made "beep, beep" 123 00:06:51,736 --> 00:06:58,105 was a radio operator who was at the NYC port, just messing around. 124 00:06:58,105 --> 00:07:00,551 There were mics already. 125 00:07:00,561 --> 00:07:03,207 This device existed, too, so the guy thought: 126 00:07:03,227 --> 00:07:07,575 "What if I connect the mic to the beeper, to the beeper wires, 127 00:07:07,605 --> 00:07:11,172 and instead of going "beep, beep", I speak?" 128 00:07:11,172 --> 00:07:12,933 So he said: "Hello!" 129 00:07:12,933 --> 00:07:17,441 Can you imagine the shock every radio operator on the ships got? 130 00:07:17,461 --> 00:07:20,349 (Laughter) (Applause) 131 00:07:20,349 --> 00:07:24,058 Nobody had ever talked to them through the radio; radio didn't exist yet! 132 00:07:24,058 --> 00:07:29,452 And all of a sudden, not only did he speak and read the Bible, (Laughter) 133 00:07:29,482 --> 00:07:34,293 but he played the violin and really shocked everybody. 134 00:07:34,293 --> 00:07:39,113 It would be long before the radio turned into the kind of radio that feeds me 135 00:07:39,113 --> 00:07:41,619 from the air, and this thing that I live from air. 136 00:07:41,619 --> 00:07:43,852 Many times kids come to me and ask: 137 00:07:43,852 --> 00:07:50,572 "Has tech, Internet and PCs changed the radio much?" 138 00:07:50,572 --> 00:07:54,159 The truth is they haven't. Radio is still the same: 139 00:07:54,159 --> 00:07:57,746 a mic and some moron saying stupid things. 140 00:07:57,746 --> 00:08:01,333 Or in many cases, saying serious things, OK. 141 00:08:01,333 --> 00:08:08,452 But I mean, the greatest evolution in the radio, the greatest change 142 00:08:08,452 --> 00:08:13,252 was the transistor radio. Why? 143 00:08:13,252 --> 00:08:15,018 Another idea, that had nothing to do with it. 144 00:08:15,018 --> 00:08:20,453 The guy who invented the transistor didn't know that it was going to trigger 145 00:08:20,453 --> 00:08:23,812 the making of a really small radio that we could carry in our pockets 146 00:08:23,812 --> 00:08:26,051 with a set of headphones 147 00:08:26,051 --> 00:08:29,412 and that we could listen to the match at school, or at work. 148 00:08:30,532 --> 00:08:35,129 In 1930, the transistors were created and all that 149 00:08:35,129 --> 00:08:38,521 but it was only in the '50s when the transistor radios appeared. 150 00:08:38,521 --> 00:08:40,738 In other words, just the same way 151 00:08:40,738 --> 00:08:43,425 Fernando Bravo's car was a carrot, an idea, 152 00:08:43,445 --> 00:08:45,496 an idea that gets inside of you, and you search and look for it 153 00:08:45,496 --> 00:08:47,547 until the idea is fully developed 154 00:08:47,547 --> 00:08:49,598 and someone can make it possible. 155 00:08:49,598 --> 00:08:54,612 Nowadays, we listen to music on our smartphones or MP3 players, 156 00:08:54,612 --> 00:08:59,538 for me it is the same concept of a transistor radio, nothing changed. 157 00:08:59,538 --> 00:09:01,911 The really cool thing was that it wasn't plugged to a power supply, 158 00:09:01,931 --> 00:09:03,694 because it had a small battery 159 00:09:03,714 --> 00:09:05,199 and you could carry it in your pocket. 160 00:09:05,209 --> 00:09:07,489 Then the walkman appeared. A copy of the transistor radio. 161 00:09:07,489 --> 00:09:10,098 And then the MP3, a copy of the walkman. 162 00:09:10,098 --> 00:09:12,561 And now the smartphone, which is all that together but.... 163 00:09:12,561 --> 00:09:15,024 what is that, really? 164 00:09:15,024 --> 00:09:17,487 A small device that sounds in your ears. 165 00:09:17,487 --> 00:09:20,448 For me, the biggest challenge, maybe, technologically speaking, 166 00:09:20,448 --> 00:09:22,369 in that thing of the ideas, 167 00:09:22,379 --> 00:09:25,342 might be the rebirth of the cell phone. 168 00:09:26,372 --> 00:09:32,012 The cell phone is the most democratic thing on Earth. 169 00:09:32,012 --> 00:09:36,099 I've just heard a woman complaining on the radio, saying: 170 00:09:36,099 --> 00:09:38,379 "Hey, the poor people take the money 171 00:09:38,389 --> 00:09:40,829 and the first thing they buy is a cell phone." 172 00:09:40,839 --> 00:09:44,204 I understood the real democracy of the cell phone 173 00:09:44,234 --> 00:09:46,729 on a my way to dinner with friends, 174 00:09:46,729 --> 00:09:48,570 when I went by a group of poor guys collecting paper, 175 00:09:48,570 --> 00:09:50,411 and one of them was talking on a cellphone: 176 00:09:50,411 --> 00:09:52,253 "(beep, beep) I'm loading the stuff, please send me the truck." 177 00:09:52,253 --> 00:09:54,573 And I said to myself: "This is huge. 178 00:09:54,613 --> 00:09:57,166 They had no way to communicate before." 179 00:09:57,608 --> 00:10:03,529 The cell phone is absolutelly amazing and yet we haven't found a use for it. 180 00:10:04,250 --> 00:10:09,532 Maybe, that idea, the one that transforms, like the transistor, 181 00:10:09,532 --> 00:10:14,858 like the guy messing around who connected the mic to the wire. 182 00:10:14,858 --> 00:10:20,332 Maybe that is the idea missing if we want the cell phone to stop being the device 183 00:10:20,332 --> 00:10:25,327 with which the companies get their revenue, and start being that device 184 00:10:25,327 --> 00:10:30,172 that helps fill the holes in our society, sometimes far away, sometimes close, 185 00:10:30,172 --> 00:10:31,611 here, in Argentina. 186 00:10:31,611 --> 00:10:35,394 Education, for instance, and many, many other things. 187 00:10:36,974 --> 00:10:40,389 Living from air, is the demonstration that, 188 00:10:40,389 --> 00:10:43,454 to listen to the radio, we don't even need an antenna, 189 00:10:43,454 --> 00:10:46,870 we don't even need the transmiter, we don't even need the idea. 190 00:10:47,220 --> 00:10:51,291 In 1980, I traveled to Marocco. 191 00:10:52,551 --> 00:10:58,018 In Marrackech, at Jamaa el Fna square, I saw some guys standing on the benches 192 00:10:58,018 --> 00:11:00,812 and they were speaking to groups of people. 193 00:11:00,812 --> 00:11:03,904 One speaking to 10 people, another to 5, and then, 194 00:11:03,904 --> 00:11:06,996 one guy speaking to a group of 80 or 90 people. 195 00:11:06,996 --> 00:11:10,089 (Imitating Arabic) They spoke and people listened, 196 00:11:10,089 --> 00:11:12,852 and every now and then, the people dropped a coin and left. 197 00:11:12,852 --> 00:11:16,012 My guide was an Italian who spoke some Spanish, so I asked him: 198 00:11:16,012 --> 00:11:18,852 "What is he speaking about?" So he says: 199 00:11:18,852 --> 00:11:20,961 "The guy is broadcasting the news, 200 00:11:20,971 --> 00:11:23,900 because almost everyone here is an analphabet. 201 00:11:23,900 --> 00:11:28,619 So he listens to the news on the radio, retells it publicly and gets a few coins. 202 00:11:29,709 --> 00:11:33,514 And then I understood the term "rating". 203 00:11:33,984 --> 00:11:37,144 One had 5, the other had 100, 204 00:11:37,144 --> 00:11:41,063 and I asked myself why, if they must have listened to the same station 205 00:11:41,063 --> 00:11:45,140 and were telling the same things. So the guide said: 206 00:11:45,140 --> 00:11:49,363 "Yes, but the one with 80 people listening to him 207 00:11:49,383 --> 00:11:53,956 also tells jokes and gossips." (Laughter) 208 00:11:55,386 --> 00:11:58,135 So, radio is so much living from air, 209 00:11:58,145 --> 00:12:01,364 that you can make radio without a radio, just with people. 210 00:12:01,824 --> 00:12:05,045 I found it totally wonderful. 211 00:12:05,045 --> 00:12:09,207 I'm not denying technology, the hardware, 212 00:12:09,207 --> 00:12:13,303 I'm not denying everything we get from it everyday. 213 00:12:13,303 --> 00:12:17,663 Absolutely not. I was one of the first PC fans. 214 00:12:17,663 --> 00:12:22,149 When the first Commodore 64 appeared, they made us learn 215 00:12:22,149 --> 00:12:25,982 not just how to use it, but also how to program it. 216 00:12:25,982 --> 00:12:29,569 I started with Basic, then they wanted to make me learn Cobol, 217 00:12:29,569 --> 00:12:32,106 which was impossible to understand. 218 00:12:32,116 --> 00:12:36,543 And then, when the first sound editors appeared, the first digital editors, 219 00:12:36,743 --> 00:12:39,121 I was among the first ones uploading the tapes 220 00:12:39,121 --> 00:12:43,025 and starting with PCs, I kind of got addicted to PCs. 221 00:12:45,460 --> 00:12:47,919 And then I said: "OK, this is enough, 222 00:12:47,919 --> 00:12:49,988 I'll use them just for work, and the rest of my life 223 00:12:50,056 --> 00:12:54,295 can be written in this notebook, which might not be a tablet, 224 00:12:54,874 --> 00:12:57,832 but is a nice composition notebook. 225 00:12:58,274 --> 00:13:01,273 It can keep all my ideas, and in case of a blackout, 226 00:13:01,273 --> 00:13:04,540 I'll be able to read it with a candle. 227 00:13:04,540 --> 00:13:10,362 But, going back to living from air, and our talk this afternoon, 228 00:13:11,738 --> 00:13:15,575 we need to keep in mind that ideas rule. 229 00:13:15,575 --> 00:13:20,584 We might have computers, but what is going to lead our lives 230 00:13:20,584 --> 00:13:24,580 is our ideas and our own imagination. 231 00:13:25,623 --> 00:13:27,583 Ideas rule. 232 00:13:27,583 --> 00:13:29,779 They always did, they do now, 233 00:13:29,779 --> 00:13:33,043 and they will rule in every machine in the world 234 00:13:33,043 --> 00:13:35,775 which will join together to kick our asses. 235 00:13:35,775 --> 00:13:38,255 The idea of a lone thinking man, 236 00:13:38,265 --> 00:13:41,265 the idea of a man thinking when lights go out, 237 00:13:41,775 --> 00:13:44,777 a man thinking when nothing's left. 238 00:13:44,777 --> 00:13:48,817 The idea is the real thing, the idea makes us different. 239 00:13:48,817 --> 00:13:54,223 The idea is ours, and the idea is nothing. It's in the air, is pure imagination. 240 00:13:54,223 --> 00:13:57,857 It's like a cosmic nonsense in our heads, 241 00:13:57,857 --> 00:14:01,538 and if we use it right, it will get us that job 242 00:14:01,538 --> 00:14:04,302 that 10 other people already applied for. 243 00:14:04,302 --> 00:14:08,652 Who are they going to hire? The one who thinks better. 244 00:14:08,652 --> 00:14:11,497 Or, in any other aspect of life: 245 00:14:11,497 --> 00:14:14,497 Who is going to get there? The one with the best idea. 246 00:14:14,497 --> 00:14:20,145 Now, if you have good ideas, if you exercise your imagination, 247 00:14:20,145 --> 00:14:24,573 if you work hard, everything that is just going around in the air 248 00:14:24,573 --> 00:14:26,744 with curiosity, willing to play, 249 00:14:26,744 --> 00:14:29,618 and, on top of that, you have a few computers... 250 00:14:29,618 --> 00:14:33,189 Then, you are ramping up your speed. 251 00:14:33,189 --> 00:14:35,217 I could say that nothing will stop you, 252 00:14:35,217 --> 00:14:39,070 but, if the computer takes over you and you let it do it... 253 00:14:39,070 --> 00:14:41,803 you'd be in trouble. 254 00:14:41,991 --> 00:14:46,537 Because the day the computer takes over, it turns your brain off. 255 00:14:46,777 --> 00:14:50,168 I've learned that living from air. Thank you very much. 256 00:14:50,178 --> 00:14:55,416 (Applause)