WEBVTT 00:00:01.310 --> 00:00:12.570 >> At the age of 18, 00:00:12.570 --> 00:00:15.400 I was just on the track. 00:00:16.790 --> 00:00:18.930 Go to a good college, get 00:00:18.930 --> 00:00:20.130 a decent degree, do good. 00:00:20.130 --> 00:00:21.330 You're going to get an entry-level job 00:00:21.330 --> 00:00:22.200 down on Wall Street, 00:00:22.200 --> 00:00:22.800 you're going to work real hard. 00:00:22.800 --> 00:00:23.550 You're going to get broker, 00:00:23.550 --> 00:00:24.765 you're going to make tons of money. 00:00:24.765 --> 00:00:25.920 You're going to be retired 00:00:25.920 --> 00:00:27.240 by very young age, 00:00:27.240 --> 00:00:28.050 you're going to have a house on 00:00:28.050 --> 00:00:28.980 a beach in New Jersey and 00:00:28.980 --> 00:00:30.840 a couple of Mercedes and a trophy wife. 00:00:30.840 --> 00:00:32.250 And that'll be the end of the game. 00:00:32.250 --> 00:00:34.230 I'm done, multi-millionaire. 00:00:34.230 --> 00:00:39.060 That's it. I was 00:00:39.060 --> 00:00:40.110 playing professionally for the 00:00:40.110 --> 00:00:41.790 New Jersey Imperials. 00:00:41.790 --> 00:00:45.130 I was playing the best soccer in my life. 00:01:03.050 --> 00:01:05.900 I get offered this coaching job. 00:01:05.900 --> 00:01:07.010 I wanted my teammates to go 00:01:07.010 --> 00:01:08.614 coach at Saint John's University, 00:01:08.614 --> 00:01:11.120 the NCAA Division 1 national champions. 00:01:11.120 --> 00:01:12.890 They're the best team in the country. 00:01:12.890 --> 00:01:14.360 I was having a blast. 00:01:14.360 --> 00:01:16.715 I was loving coaching and I was loving plan. 00:01:16.715 --> 00:01:18.545 I'm at living in New York. 00:01:18.545 --> 00:01:20.710 I'm also studying stuff that I really enjoy. 00:01:20.710 --> 00:01:23.180 I'm digging into, studying theology. 00:01:23.180 --> 00:01:25.115 For the first time in my life 00:01:25.115 --> 00:01:26.725 in a formal way, 00:01:26.725 --> 00:01:28.520 I get online, I start doing 00:01:28.520 --> 00:01:29.960 searches about Nike, 00:01:29.960 --> 00:01:32.420 sweatshops and labour practices. 00:01:32.420 --> 00:01:34.025 And what I found was, 00:01:34.025 --> 00:01:35.585 if you wanted to pick a company 00:01:35.585 --> 00:01:37.804 that completely violates everything, 00:01:37.804 --> 00:01:39.430 the Catholic social teaching is 00:01:39.430 --> 00:01:42.065 about Nike would be a perfect case study. 00:01:42.065 --> 00:01:43.850 At the same time, I'm doing this research, 00:01:43.850 --> 00:01:45.620 Saint John's University Athletic Department 00:01:45.620 --> 00:01:48.080 starts to negotiate a 3.5 million 00:01:48.080 --> 00:01:50.150 dollar endorsement deal with Nike that 00:01:50.150 --> 00:01:51.500 require me as a coach to 00:01:51.500 --> 00:01:53.315 wear and promote the products. 00:01:53.315 --> 00:01:55.100 Saint John's University, with the largest 00:01:55.100 --> 00:01:56.795 Catholic institution in the country, 00:01:56.795 --> 00:01:58.610 coupling itself with 00:01:58.610 --> 00:02:01.955 the largest sportswear company in the world. 00:02:01.955 --> 00:02:03.755 And I said, how can we, 00:02:03.755 --> 00:02:07.970 as such a public symbol of Catholicism, 00:02:07.970 --> 00:02:09.770 do something that runs 00:02:09.770 --> 00:02:12.020 completely counter to our mission? 00:02:12.020 --> 00:02:14.675 We're saying to the world, then, look, 00:02:14.675 --> 00:02:16.205 you should care about the poor 00:02:16.205 --> 00:02:17.420 and we should fight against 00:02:17.420 --> 00:02:18.470 injustice and we should 00:02:18.470 --> 00:02:20.585 seek out the causes of poverty. 00:02:20.585 --> 00:02:22.280 Unless you're getting some 00:02:22.280 --> 00:02:23.780 really good athletic equipment 00:02:23.780 --> 00:02:26.140 and $3.5 million along with it. 00:02:26.140 --> 00:02:27.500 You want to talk about 00:02:27.500 --> 00:02:31.310 just hypocrisy manifested in 00:02:31.310 --> 00:02:33.060 the real world like this was in. 00:02:33.060 --> 00:02:34.845 >> And you have the story of Saint John's. 00:02:34.845 --> 00:02:37.950 >> Jim Keady has caused a massive pile. 00:02:37.950 --> 00:02:39.240 >> He is clearly an ideal. 00:02:39.240 --> 00:02:40.520 >> I didn't go to Saint John's 00:02:40.520 --> 00:02:42.695 University to work for Nike. 00:02:42.695 --> 00:02:46.615 I went there to coach and study theology. 00:02:46.615 --> 00:02:49.170 >> Keady a devout Catholic, protested. 00:02:49.170 --> 00:02:50.300 >> How does he reached the point where 00:02:50.300 --> 00:02:52.130 he thinks it's immoral? 00:02:52.130 --> 00:02:53.750 >> Because he's coming at it from 00:02:53.750 --> 00:02:55.280 a background of faith and religion. 00:02:55.280 --> 00:02:57.290 This isn't about just money or 00:02:57.290 --> 00:02:59.795 power or job or anything. Think about this. 00:02:59.795 --> 00:03:01.580 How many of us on a job that 00:03:01.580 --> 00:03:03.410 we really want are prepared to 00:03:03.410 --> 00:03:05.360 get a memo from the boss saying stop doing 00:03:05.360 --> 00:03:07.330 this or you're out and you keep doing it? 00:03:07.330 --> 00:03:08.630 >> I was given an ultimatum 00:03:08.630 --> 00:03:10.490 by my head coach wear 00:03:10.490 --> 00:03:12.805 Nike and drop this issue 00:03:12.805 --> 00:03:15.305 or resign. End the story. 00:03:15.305 --> 00:03:17.360 So in June of 1998, 00:03:17.360 --> 00:03:19.560 I was constructively fired. 00:03:23.560 --> 00:03:25.490 People were telling me you don't know 00:03:25.490 --> 00:03:26.600 what you're talking about. 00:03:26.600 --> 00:03:27.920 Those are great jobs and 00:03:27.920 --> 00:03:29.270 you can live like a king or queen on 00:03:29.270 --> 00:03:30.530 those wages and those people 00:03:30.530 --> 00:03:31.610 are really happy to have 00:03:31.610 --> 00:03:34.865 those jobs. I want to go find out. 00:03:34.865 --> 00:03:36.830 Doesn't everybody just want 00:03:36.830 --> 00:03:37.940 to know the truth? 00:03:37.940 --> 00:03:40.100 So I wanted to know the truth firsthand. 00:03:40.100 --> 00:03:41.600 I wanted to see it. I wanted to smell it. 00:03:41.600 --> 00:03:43.620 I wanted to hold it in my hand. 00:03:48.280 --> 00:03:51.230 I knew I was going to need other people. 00:03:51.230 --> 00:03:53.785 Leslie was a natural match. 00:03:53.785 --> 00:03:56.040 >> Jim and I went to college together. 00:03:56.040 --> 00:03:58.640 We came together ultimately because we 00:03:58.640 --> 00:04:01.700 share an interest in labor rights issues. 00:04:01.700 --> 00:04:03.230 >> I eventually met 00:04:03.230 --> 00:04:04.910 backup with her few years after 00:04:04.910 --> 00:04:08.510 school through an email about sweatshops. 00:04:08.510 --> 00:04:10.010 >> I really wanted 00:04:10.010 --> 00:04:11.660 to be working with these issues. 00:04:11.660 --> 00:04:13.130 >> And I wrote to my buddy in Saudia, 00:04:13.130 --> 00:04:14.000 who's this woman that's 00:04:14.000 --> 00:04:15.260 writing to you about this stuff? 00:04:15.260 --> 00:04:16.520 And he said, she's not like 00:04:16.520 --> 00:04:17.915 you. You should email her. 00:04:17.915 --> 00:04:19.760 She was actually enroute to go 00:04:19.760 --> 00:04:21.935 work with Mother Teresa's Sisters in India. 00:04:21.935 --> 00:04:23.690 And I sent her off his email, 00:04:23.690 --> 00:04:24.680 I got this great idea. 00:04:24.680 --> 00:04:25.490 Let's get started on 00:04:25.490 --> 00:04:26.750 Nike's wages in Indonesia 00:04:26.750 --> 00:04:28.970 >> And so he's like, I really need to go. 00:04:28.970 --> 00:04:30.905 >> She wrote me back. Sounds great. 00:04:30.905 --> 00:04:32.580 >> Let's go. 00:04:37.130 --> 00:04:40.440 >> We plopped down in Tangerang, Indonesia, 00:04:40.440 --> 00:04:41.990 there's industrial suburb outside 00:04:41.990 --> 00:04:42.620 of the capital, 00:04:42.620 --> 00:04:44.180 Jakarta, with the plans 00:04:44.180 --> 00:04:45.530 that for the next month, 00:04:45.530 --> 00:04:47.240 we were going to live as 00:04:47.240 --> 00:04:49.190 Nike's factory workers live, 00:04:49.190 --> 00:04:51.620 which meant that we were going to go live 00:04:51.620 --> 00:04:54.005 in a worker slum outside of the capital, 00:04:54.005 --> 00:04:54.950 and we were going to live 00:04:54.950 --> 00:04:56.030 on the worker's wages, 00:04:56.030 --> 00:04:58.850 $1.25 a day for the next month. 00:04:58.850 --> 00:05:00.045 Try and come maybe to 00:05:00.045 --> 00:05:02.825 a better understanding of what it's like 00:05:02.825 --> 00:05:05.000 for Nike factory workers to make 00:05:05.000 --> 00:05:08.190 this money and live under these conditions. 00:05:10.130 --> 00:05:15.970 We lived in nine-by-nine cement box. 00:05:15.970 --> 00:05:18.160 It was over 100 degrees to 00:05:18.160 --> 00:05:20.140 100% humidity is small windows, 00:05:20.140 --> 00:05:21.565 certainly no air conditioning. 00:05:21.565 --> 00:05:23.440 >> No furniture. You slept on 00:05:23.440 --> 00:05:25.330 a very thin mat on 00:05:25.330 --> 00:05:26.920 an uneven cement floor 00:05:26.920 --> 00:05:28.585 covered in shelf paper. 00:05:28.585 --> 00:05:32.125 >> The streets outside of your home are 00:05:32.125 --> 00:05:34.360 lined by open sores 00:05:34.360 --> 00:05:36.805 and what that means like in the rainy season, 00:05:36.805 --> 00:05:38.740 you would have all that feces just 00:05:38.740 --> 00:05:40.060 float up into the streets 00:05:40.060 --> 00:05:40.990 and into your house. 00:05:40.990 --> 00:05:41.650 >> And every time that you 00:05:41.650 --> 00:05:42.879 go to the bathroom, 00:05:42.879 --> 00:05:44.950 it comes back out into the sewer for 00:05:44.950 --> 00:05:46.990 everybody else to see and smell. 00:05:46.990 --> 00:05:48.070 >> You would have 00:05:48.070 --> 00:05:49.510 football-sized rats that would 00:05:49.510 --> 00:05:50.890 stampede over the ceiling 00:05:50.890 --> 00:05:52.270 at night and come up through 00:05:52.270 --> 00:05:54.160 the toilet and look for stuff to 00:05:54.160 --> 00:05:56.350 eat in the house or 00:05:56.350 --> 00:05:57.940 the fist-size cockroaches that 00:05:57.940 --> 00:06:00.110 would crawl over every night. 00:06:07.130 --> 00:06:10.055 >> Just like anyone around the world, 00:06:10.055 --> 00:06:11.840 you can't just drop into someone's life 00:06:11.840 --> 00:06:12.920 and be like, hi, 00:06:12.920 --> 00:06:14.270 we're here, we want to live in 00:06:14.270 --> 00:06:16.640 your life and tell us how much it's sucks. 00:06:16.640 --> 00:06:18.980 You had to build bonds of trust. 00:06:18.980 --> 00:06:19.865 >> Jim. 00:06:19.865 --> 00:06:20.630 >> City. 00:06:20.630 --> 00:06:21.040 >> City. 00:06:21.040 --> 00:06:21.440 >> Jennie. 00:06:21.440 --> 00:06:24.190 >> Jennie nice to meet you. 00:06:24.530 --> 00:06:26.840 >> They treated us very 00:06:26.840 --> 00:06:30.230 politely and it wasn't until they saw 00:06:30.230 --> 00:06:32.900 that we were committed 00:06:32.900 --> 00:06:35.225 in the capacity of living 00:06:35.225 --> 00:06:37.400 on the wages that they're forced to live 00:06:37.400 --> 00:06:40.520 on in the conditions that they are living in. 00:06:40.520 --> 00:06:41.720 They felt that they could 00:06:41.720 --> 00:06:43.625 start to begin to trust us. 00:06:43.625 --> 00:06:45.890 You get to know them and you hold 00:06:45.890 --> 00:06:47.660 their children and you eat with them, 00:06:47.660 --> 00:06:48.920 you share stories with them, 00:06:48.920 --> 00:06:51.350 they become part of your family. 00:06:51.350 --> 00:06:54.245 >> We would go to different workers homes. 00:06:54.245 --> 00:06:56.700 You've got like four women's sleep and 00:06:56.700 --> 00:06:58.790 an eight-by-eight cement box 00:06:58.790 --> 00:07:00.740 and all their possessions are in there, 00:07:00.740 --> 00:07:04.890 everything in this small area. 00:07:05.120 --> 00:07:07.850 >> The workers would have to share 00:07:07.850 --> 00:07:11.015 a bathroom with 5-10 other families. 00:07:11.015 --> 00:07:12.410 The workers would have to share 00:07:12.410 --> 00:07:15.020 a living quarters, 00:07:15.020 --> 00:07:16.850 actually like a row 00:07:16.850 --> 00:07:20.330 of shacks with corrugated tin roofs. 00:07:20.330 --> 00:07:22.325 All of those families would share 00:07:22.325 --> 00:07:27.165 a laundry corner and a kitchen facilities. 00:07:27.165 --> 00:07:28.670 And they would all share 00:07:28.670 --> 00:07:32.280 the same well to take the water out of. 00:07:33.310 --> 00:07:36.050 >> $1.25 a day after you've 00:07:36.050 --> 00:07:39.770 paid for your rent, water, electricity, 00:07:39.770 --> 00:07:41.435 any major transportation costs, 00:07:41.435 --> 00:07:42.200 you're going to be left 00:07:42.200 --> 00:07:43.550 on average with roughly 00:07:43.550 --> 00:07:46.175 7,000 rupiah per day. 00:07:46.175 --> 00:07:48.695 What the **** does that mean? 00:07:48.695 --> 00:07:51.110 That's going to buy you two simple meals 00:07:51.110 --> 00:07:52.370 or rice and vegetables, 00:07:52.370 --> 00:07:54.860 a bag of peanuts, a bottle ice tea, 00:07:54.860 --> 00:07:56.885 and some dish detergent. 00:07:56.885 --> 00:07:59.390 And that's all you can get, and 00:07:59.390 --> 00:08:01.145 that's your reward. 00:08:01.145 --> 00:08:02.975 >> Without a doubt. 00:08:02.975 --> 00:08:04.250 We found that out in 00:08:04.250 --> 00:08:05.750 the first week that we were there. 00:08:05.750 --> 00:08:08.060 There was no way that you can live on 00:08:08.060 --> 00:08:11.645 $1.25 a day and maintain your human dignity. 00:08:11.645 --> 00:08:13.950 It's just not possible. 00:08:17.410 --> 00:08:19.700 >> I lost 25 pounds 00:08:19.700 --> 00:08:22.625 living on Nike's wages in Indonesia. 00:08:22.625 --> 00:08:25.310 I spent a month painfully hungry and 00:08:25.310 --> 00:08:26.330 tired and like near 00:08:26.330 --> 00:08:27.850 the point of exhaustion most days. 00:08:27.850 --> 00:08:29.345 >> I just felt 00:08:29.345 --> 00:08:32.835 my energy storage was just depleted 00:08:32.835 --> 00:08:35.420 and I just started going downhill fast and 00:08:35.420 --> 00:08:38.240 I just started getting sick every day. 00:08:38.240 --> 00:08:39.595 >> And she got very sick. 00:08:39.595 --> 00:08:41.775 She had a fever, 104. 00:08:41.775 --> 00:08:43.590 And she's got to 00:08:43.590 --> 00:08:45.770 deal with, I have a fever 104. 00:08:45.770 --> 00:08:47.330 I can buy aspirin and 00:08:47.330 --> 00:08:49.340 a little drink box to get some 00:08:49.340 --> 00:08:51.695 Vitamin C. But if I buy those two things, 00:08:51.695 --> 00:08:54.150 I don't eat for the rest of the day. 00:09:03.950 --> 00:09:05.840 >> We're going to go home. 00:09:05.840 --> 00:09:06.480 We're going to say, 00:09:06.480 --> 00:09:07.750 at least I got lot of money, 00:09:07.750 --> 00:09:08.370 no it's not going to be 00:09:08.370 --> 00:09:10.480 a **** thing different. 00:09:14.380 --> 00:09:17.560 >> How do you feel like your human being? 00:09:17.560 --> 00:09:22.725 How do you feel like your work, your gifts? 00:09:22.725 --> 00:09:24.200 For them the workers that 00:09:24.200 --> 00:09:26.135 I've talked to you the last couple of days. 00:09:26.135 --> 00:09:29.630 Number of said the only thing we have is 00:09:29.630 --> 00:09:33.590 our physical labour because 00:09:33.590 --> 00:09:36.035 I just bought this smallest thing, 00:09:36.035 --> 00:09:38.660 shaving creams and one razor that I might be 00:09:38.660 --> 00:09:41.785 able to use two or three times that 00:09:41.785 --> 00:09:43.570 I have to cut out three meals 00:09:43.570 --> 00:09:52.220 this week. The highest people. 00:10:07.590 --> 00:10:10.015 >> They will be working 00:10:10.015 --> 00:10:13.135 overtime hours just to get by 00:10:13.135 --> 00:10:14.680 because they can't possibly 00:10:14.680 --> 00:10:15.880 get by on the ways that they're 00:10:15.880 --> 00:10:17.080 paid without working 00:10:17.080 --> 00:10:19.370 incredible amounts of time. 00:10:20.400 --> 00:10:23.620 And when you're working up to 15 hours a day, 00:10:23.620 --> 00:10:25.510 6-7 days a week, 00:10:25.510 --> 00:10:29.500 your two-year-old child just doesn't see you. 00:10:29.500 --> 00:10:32.755 They don't get to see their children. 00:10:32.755 --> 00:10:35.125 >> The kids can't even go to school. 00:10:35.125 --> 00:10:36.340 How are you going to break 00:10:36.340 --> 00:10:37.780 a cycle of poverty and have 00:10:37.780 --> 00:10:40.090 real economic development if you have 00:10:40.090 --> 00:10:41.860 a whole lost generation 00:10:41.860 --> 00:10:44.379 of children that aren't even educated. 00:10:44.379 --> 00:10:54.520 I'm walking down this dirt path into 00:10:54.520 --> 00:10:56.350 this village and I see 00:10:56.350 --> 00:10:57.790 this massive pile of 00:10:57.790 --> 00:10:59.680 scrap shoe rubber that I later 00:10:59.680 --> 00:11:01.120 learned came from one of 00:11:01.120 --> 00:11:03.190 Nike's factories and piles 00:11:03.190 --> 00:11:05.350 like that get dumped there all the time. 00:11:05.350 --> 00:11:06.790 And the end result of 00:11:06.790 --> 00:11:08.170 these piles is that they get 00:11:08.170 --> 00:11:10.090 burned in that village in 00:11:10.090 --> 00:11:12.130 the big open space where kids play. 00:11:12.130 --> 00:11:13.510 And the burning fumes 00:11:13.510 --> 00:11:15.040 I learned from the company that 00:11:15.040 --> 00:11:16.915 designs Nike shoe rubber 00:11:16.915 --> 00:11:19.940 will give off toxins and carcinogens. 00:11:19.940 --> 00:11:22.080 Kids are paying the price. 00:11:22.080 --> 00:11:22.950 And they're the ones 00:11:22.950 --> 00:11:24.000 who have chest infections 00:11:24.000 --> 00:11:24.600 and they're the ones that are 00:11:24.600 --> 00:11:26.740 going to develop cancer. 00:11:31.740 --> 00:11:33.760 When we were in Indonesia, we 00:11:33.760 --> 00:11:35.920 made attempts to get 00:11:35.920 --> 00:11:37.405 into a Nike factory 00:11:37.405 --> 00:11:39.355 because Nike claims on their website, 00:11:39.355 --> 00:11:41.545 we have nothing to hide. I'm Mike. 00:11:41.545 --> 00:11:42.115 >> Hi, Mike. 00:11:42.115 --> 00:11:42.850 >> How you doing? 00:11:42.850 --> 00:11:43.315 >> Good. 00:11:43.315 --> 00:11:45.940 >> We went over to Nike's corporate offices 00:11:45.940 --> 00:11:48.355 and Nike denied us that. 00:11:48.355 --> 00:11:51.130 >> We're unable to accommodate that request. 00:11:51.130 --> 00:11:53.920 >> So Nike Headquarters 00:11:53.920 --> 00:11:55.780 and Beaverton Oregon had faxed 00:11:55.780 --> 00:11:56.950 an info sheet at all the 00:11:56.950 --> 00:11:58.210 factories to be placed 00:11:58.210 --> 00:12:00.790 on the wall for all workers to see that red. 00:12:00.790 --> 00:12:02.260 If you are approached by 00:12:02.260 --> 00:12:04.405 Jim Keady, Leslie Kretzu, Mike Pierantozzi. 00:12:04.405 --> 00:12:05.965 >> Do not speak to them. They're 00:12:05.965 --> 00:12:07.330 only to speak to management. 00:12:07.330 --> 00:12:08.770 There will be severe consequences 00:12:08.770 --> 00:12:10.015 if you're found talking to them. 00:12:10.015 --> 00:12:11.410 >> And they know from 00:12:11.410 --> 00:12:13.675 their management how they're supposed to act. 00:12:13.675 --> 00:12:14.740 And if they don't, there's 00:12:14.740 --> 00:12:16.255 some severe ramifications. 00:12:16.255 --> 00:12:18.925 Anywhere from significant harassment 00:12:18.925 --> 00:12:20.350 to death. 00:12:20.350 --> 00:12:23.990 And I mean it in a very literal sense. 00:12:26.970 --> 00:12:29.680 Certainly, the management of 00:12:29.680 --> 00:12:31.690 the factory didn't want us to be there. 00:12:31.690 --> 00:12:33.415 And it was frightening because we eat 00:12:33.415 --> 00:12:35.275 several times trying to get into the factory. 00:12:35.275 --> 00:12:37.360 >> We weren't out of the van for 00:12:37.360 --> 00:12:39.580 more than 3 minutes and 00:12:39.580 --> 00:12:41.860 there was security surrounding us. 00:12:41.860 --> 00:12:44.110 And then the factory managers came out. 00:12:44.110 --> 00:12:46.660 >> What's going on? We're outside a 00:12:46.660 --> 00:12:48.660 Nike shoe factory right now, 00:12:48.660 --> 00:12:50.545 security surrounded us. 00:12:50.545 --> 00:12:51.220 >> And they're like, 00:12:51.220 --> 00:12:53.095 what are you doing here? 00:12:53.095 --> 00:12:55.900 Why are you here? It was 00:12:55.900 --> 00:13:00.020 frightening because who knows? 00:13:01.080 --> 00:13:04.345 >> Security guy here tracking us down. 00:13:04.345 --> 00:13:05.785 >> From that moment, 00:13:05.785 --> 00:13:09.295 we were tailed by factory security, 00:13:09.295 --> 00:13:12.490 the prey men for the local mafia. 00:13:12.490 --> 00:13:15.340 The local mafia certainly works in 00:13:15.340 --> 00:13:18.310 conjunction with these factory bosses. 00:13:18.310 --> 00:13:19.960 The factory bosses some 00:13:19.960 --> 00:13:21.490 of them are just brutal, 00:13:21.490 --> 00:13:24.010 ruthless, hired muscle to 00:13:24.010 --> 00:13:25.060 keep workers in line. 00:13:25.060 --> 00:13:26.935 And we met with one worker, Julianto. 00:13:26.935 --> 00:13:28.720 He told us because he was union 00:13:28.720 --> 00:13:29.770 organized and he was trying to 00:13:29.770 --> 00:13:30.970 form an independent union. 00:13:30.970 --> 00:13:33.715 >> He was threatened at gunpoint. 00:13:33.715 --> 00:13:36.460 He had his house ransacked. 00:13:36.460 --> 00:13:38.560 He was given death threats and he had to 00:13:38.560 --> 00:13:40.660 flee back to his home village. 00:13:40.660 --> 00:13:44.600 Because in fear of his life. 00:13:45.300 --> 00:13:48.940 This is literally a life-and-death issue. 00:13:48.940 --> 00:13:51.850 And this happens at all the factories. 00:13:51.850 --> 00:13:54.550 >> Every worker that we talk to, 00:13:54.550 --> 00:13:58.180 there's this struggled with this fear, 00:13:58.180 --> 00:13:59.980 this culture of fear that 00:13:59.980 --> 00:14:02.095 just permeates the air 00:14:02.095 --> 00:14:04.300 that they want to 00:14:04.300 --> 00:14:05.350 tell you the truth and 00:14:05.350 --> 00:14:06.580 try and fight for their rights, 00:14:06.580 --> 00:14:07.960 but they also want their kids 00:14:07.960 --> 00:14:10.060 to have a father or a mother. 00:14:10.060 --> 00:14:13.008 They're dealing every day with the threat of 00:14:13.008 --> 00:14:14.170 losing their lives for 00:14:14.170 --> 00:14:15.280 doing this kind of work. 00:14:15.280 --> 00:14:17.125 I mean, they show tremendous courage 00:14:17.125 --> 00:14:19.010 in light of that. 00:14:20.340 --> 00:14:22.030 We were able to meet 00:14:22.030 --> 00:14:22.750 with a woman by the name of 00:14:22.750 --> 00:14:24.460 Dita Sari who had been 00:14:24.460 --> 00:14:27.850 organizing Nike and Reebok factory workers at 00:14:27.850 --> 00:14:29.800 the age of 23 and was illegally 00:14:29.800 --> 00:14:31.960 jailed and put in prison and tortured. 00:14:31.960 --> 00:14:34.105 >> In 8th of July 1996, 00:14:34.105 --> 00:14:35.905 I was arrested by the army, 00:14:35.905 --> 00:14:38.005 the local army in East Java. 00:14:38.005 --> 00:14:40.570 They kicked me and they used their fists 00:14:40.570 --> 00:14:43.030 and their sticks and their boot to 00:14:43.030 --> 00:14:45.400 hurt me and to torture me in front of 00:14:45.400 --> 00:14:49.310 the workers to show them an example. 00:14:51.030 --> 00:14:53.050 >> I think that the majority of 00:14:53.050 --> 00:14:54.955 workers are saying, "Look, 00:14:54.955 --> 00:14:58.765 we don't want you to pull out the jobs. 00:14:58.765 --> 00:15:01.345 We want to work. We'd like to work. 00:15:01.345 --> 00:15:03.220 We want to make the shoes 00:15:03.220 --> 00:15:05.320 we were proud of what we do, 00:15:05.320 --> 00:15:08.405 but we don't want to be exploited. 00:15:08.405 --> 00:15:10.290 Why can't you just let 00:15:10.290 --> 00:15:11.865 us meet our basic needs?" 00:15:11.865 --> 00:15:13.215 >> We're talking about food, 00:15:13.215 --> 00:15:14.940 clothing, housing, health care, 00:15:14.940 --> 00:15:16.770 education, being 00:15:16.770 --> 00:15:17.940 able to take care of your kids, 00:15:17.940 --> 00:15:20.030 and some modest savings. 00:15:20.030 --> 00:15:22.375 That's not a tall order. 00:15:22.375 --> 00:15:24.190 >> Excuse me, do you guys know 00:15:24.190 --> 00:15:25.405 where the Nike campus is? 00:15:25.405 --> 00:15:25.945 >> Yeah. 00:15:25.945 --> 00:15:27.490 >> You make a right on walker. 00:15:27.490 --> 00:15:27.940 >> Yeah. 00:15:27.940 --> 00:15:31.820 >> You'll see it on your southwest corner. 00:15:32.550 --> 00:15:35.755 >> So we're on Nike's campus right now. 00:15:35.755 --> 00:15:36.880 It's a little bit 00:15:36.880 --> 00:15:39.430 different than the factories in Indonesia, 00:15:39.430 --> 00:15:41.420 just a tiny bit. 00:15:41.520 --> 00:15:42.620 >> Hi, how are you? 00:15:42.620 --> 00:15:43.150 >> Hi, good to see you. 00:15:43.150 --> 00:15:45.490 >> Nice to meet you finaly. 00:15:45.490 --> 00:15:46.130 >> Yeah. 00:15:46.130 --> 00:15:46.131 >> I was hoping to set up some time where 00:15:46.131 --> 00:15:49.600 we could talk. I'm really concerned about 00:15:49.600 --> 00:15:51.340 the workforce in Indonesia. 00:15:51.340 --> 00:15:53.140 You know, I spent the summer there 00:15:53.140 --> 00:15:55.120 living with them, and living on 00:15:55.120 --> 00:15:56.140 the wages that are paid to 00:15:56.140 --> 00:15:57.205 the factory workers. 00:15:57.205 --> 00:15:58.135 >> You're worried about that. 00:15:58.135 --> 00:15:58.885 >> Yeah. 00:15:58.885 --> 00:15:59.830 >> Why don't you call 00:15:59.830 --> 00:16:01.000 my secretary, see what happens? 00:16:01.000 --> 00:16:02.770 >> I did. I called Lisa last week. 00:16:02.770 --> 00:16:05.245 I called Vada, I called Dusty, 00:16:05.245 --> 00:16:07.000 Brad Figel, I called Amanda. 00:16:07.000 --> 00:16:07.390 >> You're going to have to talk 00:16:07.390 --> 00:16:08.000 someone else, maybe. 00:16:08.000 --> 00:16:09.520 You need to talk to Dusty Kidd. 00:16:09.520 --> 00:16:10.690 >> You are the guy the buck 00:16:10.690 --> 00:16:11.740 stops with you, right? 00:16:11.740 --> 00:16:13.255 >> Yeah, it doesn't start with me though. 00:16:13.255 --> 00:16:15.790 >> No, but I don't know who else to talk to. 00:16:15.790 --> 00:16:16.990 >> Try Dusty Kidd. 00:16:16.990 --> 00:16:18.460 >> He doesn't want to talk to me. 00:16:18.460 --> 00:16:20.200 >> Then I guess you don't get through then. 00:16:20.200 --> 00:16:21.730 >> But you are the man. 00:16:21.730 --> 00:16:22.795 >> Thank you. 00:16:22.795 --> 00:16:25.420 >> You are the man that needs to. 00:16:25.420 --> 00:16:27.370 >> I appreciate your concern but I'm having 00:16:27.370 --> 00:16:28.150 lunch with a friend 00:16:28.150 --> 00:16:29.320 and we've talked about it and you're. 00:16:29.320 --> 00:16:31.255 >> I apologize for interrupting your lunch. 00:16:31.255 --> 00:16:32.530 I've come all the way from 00:16:32.530 --> 00:16:33.940 New Jersey to talk to you about this. 00:16:33.940 --> 00:16:34.990 >> I am not talking to you. 00:16:34.990 --> 00:16:37.195 >> I've got to stonewalled at every turn. 00:16:37.195 --> 00:16:38.740 You know workers have asked of 00:16:38.740 --> 00:16:41.620 me that I try to bring you back to 00:16:41.620 --> 00:16:43.840 Indonesia to meet them in 00:16:43.840 --> 00:16:47.780 their homes not in the office in Jakarta. 00:16:48.420 --> 00:16:52.660 >> Do you understand no? You just got a no. 00:16:52.660 --> 00:16:56.140 I'm not going to talk to you about it. 00:16:56.140 --> 00:16:58.435 >> Phil Knight, the CEO of Nike 00:16:58.435 --> 00:17:00.880 or Michael Jordan or Tiger Woods or 00:17:00.880 --> 00:17:02.020 Mia Hamm or any 00:17:02.020 --> 00:17:03.190 of the other people that are really 00:17:03.190 --> 00:17:04.330 making a lot of money 00:17:04.330 --> 00:17:06.175 because of the way that Nike does things, 00:17:06.175 --> 00:17:08.215 should care about these workers 00:17:08.215 --> 00:17:10.970 because they're human beings. 00:17:14.160 --> 00:17:17.560 >> When I see people like Tiger Woods get 00:17:17.560 --> 00:17:20.140 $100 million just for 00:17:20.140 --> 00:17:22.405 wearing the clothes, we're saying, 00:17:22.405 --> 00:17:23.815 as a society like 00:17:23.815 --> 00:17:25.390 this one individual because 00:17:25.390 --> 00:17:26.815 they play golf well, 00:17:26.815 --> 00:17:31.460 is worth more than 700,000 people. 00:17:40.590 --> 00:17:43.764 >> We've made up these wage charts 00:17:43.764 --> 00:17:45.520 and have them looked down at it. 00:17:45.520 --> 00:17:47.845 And then look up and say, 00:17:47.845 --> 00:17:49.780 Tiger Woods makes enough in a 00:17:49.780 --> 00:17:53.110 second to buy me a house. 00:17:53.110 --> 00:17:59.300 Why? I work hard for the company too. 00:18:00.240 --> 00:18:02.920 What do you say to them? 00:18:02.920 --> 00:18:05.875 That's the system. Deal with it, suck it up. 00:18:05.875 --> 00:18:08.170 It's capitalism's survival of the fittest. 00:18:08.170 --> 00:18:10.250 I guess you're not the fittest. 00:18:12.510 --> 00:18:15.130 Nike is in Indonesia for 00:18:15.130 --> 00:18:17.515 one reason, cheap labor. 00:18:17.515 --> 00:18:19.810 >> It's an ideology of maximizing 00:18:19.810 --> 00:18:22.915 profit at all costs to humanity and nature. 00:18:22.915 --> 00:18:25.150 And it's this entire like 00:18:25.150 --> 00:18:28.000 a vicious cycle that starts with 00:18:28.000 --> 00:18:30.580 the heads of the corporations that want to 00:18:30.580 --> 00:18:32.410 make a great return on shareholders’ 00:18:32.410 --> 00:18:32.411 investment. 00:18:32.411 --> 00:18:35.800 >> Some people say, 00:18:35.800 --> 00:18:36.940 that's the way things are. 00:18:36.940 --> 00:18:38.110 That's the American way. 00:18:38.110 --> 00:18:40.195 It's capitalism, that's the American way. 00:18:40.195 --> 00:18:42.805 The American way is democracy. 00:18:42.805 --> 00:18:44.740 That's what our country was founded on. 00:18:44.740 --> 00:18:47.305 I belief that all people are equal. 00:18:47.305 --> 00:18:50.140 That there should be respect for democracy, 00:18:50.140 --> 00:18:51.490 for human rights, and for 00:18:51.490 --> 00:18:52.930 the protection of human life. 00:18:52.930 --> 00:18:55.240 That's what we're about as Americans. 00:18:55.240 --> 00:18:57.010 We spent the last year and 00:18:57.010 --> 00:18:59.020 a half travelling around the country, 00:18:59.020 --> 00:19:01.180 visiting over 100 schools, high schools, 00:19:01.180 --> 00:19:03.895 and universities, 15,000 students. 00:19:03.895 --> 00:19:05.380 How are you feeling about the turnout? 00:19:05.380 --> 00:19:06.955 >> I'm feeling pretty good about the turnout. 00:19:06.955 --> 00:19:07.660 >> What do you thinking 00:19:07.660 --> 00:19:09.000 about the turnout here? 00:19:09.000 --> 00:19:10.785 >> It's great. This is 00:19:10.785 --> 00:19:12.780 the best possible turnout. 00:19:12.780 --> 00:19:14.760 >> And we try as best we can to 00:19:14.760 --> 00:19:18.010 introduce them to these human beings. 00:19:18.010 --> 00:19:20.245 And say, as students, 00:19:20.245 --> 00:19:21.910 as high-school athletes, 00:19:21.910 --> 00:19:24.070 as college athletes, as consumers, 00:19:24.070 --> 00:19:25.930 you've got tremendous power. 00:19:25.930 --> 00:19:28.000 And because we can't fly them over to 00:19:28.000 --> 00:19:30.745 Indonesia we bring Indonesia to them. 00:19:30.745 --> 00:19:33.070 And if we can give them that spark, 00:19:33.070 --> 00:19:35.875 even if it's one or two on that day, 00:19:35.875 --> 00:19:37.600 that's going to multiply and 00:19:37.600 --> 00:19:40.570 eventually we'll reach this critical mass. 00:19:40.570 --> 00:19:42.040 And we'll have a great harvest. 00:19:42.040 --> 00:19:43.990 And the harvest will be truth and 00:19:43.990 --> 00:19:48.170 justice and fairness for all people. 00:19:49.640 --> 00:19:54.190 Something's wrong here and we can fix it. 00:19:54.190 --> 00:19:56.080 It's a necessity. 00:19:56.080 --> 00:19:58.240 >> The tipping point is now. 00:19:58.240 --> 00:20:00.489 >> At this point in our history, 00:20:00.489 --> 00:20:04.700 we need a story like this to be told.