1 00:00:01,310 --> 00:00:12,570 >> At the age of 18, 2 00:00:12,570 --> 00:00:15,400 I was just on the track. 3 00:00:16,790 --> 00:00:18,930 Go to a good college, get 4 00:00:18,930 --> 00:00:20,130 a decent degree, do good. 5 00:00:20,130 --> 00:00:21,330 You're going to get an entry-level job 6 00:00:21,330 --> 00:00:22,200 down on Wall Street, 7 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:22,800 you're going to work real hard. 8 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:23,550 You're going to get broker, 9 00:00:23,550 --> 00:00:24,765 you're going to make tons of money. 10 00:00:24,765 --> 00:00:25,920 You're going to be retired 11 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:27,240 by very young age, 12 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:28,050 you're going to have a house on 13 00:00:28,050 --> 00:00:28,980 a beach in New Jersey and 14 00:00:28,980 --> 00:00:30,840 a couple of Mercedes and a trophy wife. 15 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:32,250 And that'll be the end of the game. 16 00:00:32,250 --> 00:00:34,230 I'm done, multi-millionaire. 17 00:00:34,230 --> 00:00:39,060 That's it. I was 18 00:00:39,060 --> 00:00:40,110 playing professionally for the 19 00:00:40,110 --> 00:00:41,790 New Jersey Imperials. 20 00:00:41,790 --> 00:00:45,130 I was playing the best soccer in my life. 21 00:01:03,050 --> 00:01:05,900 I get offered this coaching job. 22 00:01:05,900 --> 00:01:07,010 I wanted my teammates to go 23 00:01:07,010 --> 00:01:08,614 coach at Saint John's University, 24 00:01:08,614 --> 00:01:11,120 the NCAA Division 1 national champions. 25 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:12,890 They're the best team in the country. 26 00:01:12,890 --> 00:01:14,360 I was having a blast. 27 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:16,715 I was loving coaching and I was loving plan. 28 00:01:16,715 --> 00:01:18,545 I'm at living in New York. 29 00:01:18,545 --> 00:01:20,710 I'm also studying stuff that I really enjoy. 30 00:01:20,710 --> 00:01:23,180 I'm digging into, studying theology. 31 00:01:23,180 --> 00:01:25,115 For the first time in my life 32 00:01:25,115 --> 00:01:26,725 in a formal way, 33 00:01:26,725 --> 00:01:28,520 I get online, I start doing 34 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:29,960 searches about Nike, 35 00:01:29,960 --> 00:01:32,420 sweatshops and labour practices. 36 00:01:32,420 --> 00:01:34,025 And what I found was, 37 00:01:34,025 --> 00:01:35,585 if you wanted to pick a company 38 00:01:35,585 --> 00:01:37,804 that completely violates everything, 39 00:01:37,804 --> 00:01:39,430 the Catholic social teaching is 40 00:01:39,430 --> 00:01:42,065 about Nike would be a perfect case study. 41 00:01:42,065 --> 00:01:43,850 At the same time, I'm doing this research, 42 00:01:43,850 --> 00:01:45,620 Saint John's University Athletic Department 43 00:01:45,620 --> 00:01:48,080 starts to negotiate a 3.5 million 44 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:50,150 dollar endorsement deal with Nike that 45 00:01:50,150 --> 00:01:51,500 require me as a coach to 46 00:01:51,500 --> 00:01:53,315 wear and promote the products. 47 00:01:53,315 --> 00:01:55,100 Saint John's University, with the largest 48 00:01:55,100 --> 00:01:56,795 Catholic institution in the country, 49 00:01:56,795 --> 00:01:58,610 coupling itself with 50 00:01:58,610 --> 00:02:01,955 the largest sportswear company in the world. 51 00:02:01,955 --> 00:02:03,755 And I said, how can we, 52 00:02:03,755 --> 00:02:07,970 as such a public symbol of Catholicism, 53 00:02:07,970 --> 00:02:09,770 do something that runs 54 00:02:09,770 --> 00:02:12,020 completely counter to our mission? 55 00:02:12,020 --> 00:02:14,675 We're saying to the world, then, look, 56 00:02:14,675 --> 00:02:16,205 you should care about the poor 57 00:02:16,205 --> 00:02:17,420 and we should fight against 58 00:02:17,420 --> 00:02:18,470 injustice and we should 59 00:02:18,470 --> 00:02:20,585 seek out the causes of poverty. 60 00:02:20,585 --> 00:02:22,280 Unless you're getting some 61 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:23,780 really good athletic equipment 62 00:02:23,780 --> 00:02:26,140 and $3.5 million along with it. 63 00:02:26,140 --> 00:02:27,500 You want to talk about 64 00:02:27,500 --> 00:02:31,310 just hypocrisy manifested in 65 00:02:31,310 --> 00:02:33,060 the real world like this was in. 66 00:02:33,060 --> 00:02:34,845 >> And you have the story of Saint John's. 67 00:02:34,845 --> 00:02:37,950 >> Jim Keady has caused a massive pile. 68 00:02:37,950 --> 00:02:39,240 >> He is clearly an ideal. 69 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:40,520 >> I didn't go to Saint John's 70 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:42,695 University to work for Nike. 71 00:02:42,695 --> 00:02:46,615 I went there to coach and study theology. 72 00:02:46,615 --> 00:02:49,170 >> Keady a devout Catholic, protested. 73 00:02:49,170 --> 00:02:50,300 >> How does he reached the point where 74 00:02:50,300 --> 00:02:52,130 he thinks it's immoral? 75 00:02:52,130 --> 00:02:53,750 >> Because he's coming at it from 76 00:02:53,750 --> 00:02:55,280 a background of faith and religion. 77 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:57,290 This isn't about just money or 78 00:02:57,290 --> 00:02:59,795 power or job or anything. Think about this. 79 00:02:59,795 --> 00:03:01,580 How many of us on a job that 80 00:03:01,580 --> 00:03:03,410 we really want are prepared to 81 00:03:03,410 --> 00:03:05,360 get a memo from the boss saying stop doing 82 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:07,330 this or you're out and you keep doing it? 83 00:03:07,330 --> 00:03:08,630 >> I was given an ultimatum 84 00:03:08,630 --> 00:03:10,490 by my head coach wear 85 00:03:10,490 --> 00:03:12,805 Nike and drop this issue 86 00:03:12,805 --> 00:03:15,305 or resign. End the story. 87 00:03:15,305 --> 00:03:17,360 So in June of 1998, 88 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:19,560 I was constructively fired. 89 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:25,490 People were telling me you don't know 90 00:03:25,490 --> 00:03:26,600 what you're talking about. 91 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:27,920 Those are great jobs and 92 00:03:27,920 --> 00:03:29,270 you can live like a king or queen on 93 00:03:29,270 --> 00:03:30,530 those wages and those people 94 00:03:30,530 --> 00:03:31,610 are really happy to have 95 00:03:31,610 --> 00:03:34,865 those jobs. I want to go find out. 96 00:03:34,865 --> 00:03:36,830 Doesn't everybody just want 97 00:03:36,830 --> 00:03:37,940 to know the truth? 98 00:03:37,940 --> 00:03:40,100 So I wanted to know the truth firsthand. 99 00:03:40,100 --> 00:03:41,600 I wanted to see it. I wanted to smell it. 100 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:43,620 I wanted to hold it in my hand. 101 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:51,230 I knew I was going to need other people. 102 00:03:51,230 --> 00:03:53,785 Leslie was a natural match. 103 00:03:53,785 --> 00:03:56,040 >> Jim and I went to college together. 104 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:58,640 We came together ultimately because we 105 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:01,700 share an interest in labor rights issues. 106 00:04:01,700 --> 00:04:03,230 >> I eventually met 107 00:04:03,230 --> 00:04:04,910 backup with her few years after 108 00:04:04,910 --> 00:04:08,510 school through an email about sweatshops. 109 00:04:08,510 --> 00:04:10,010 >> I really wanted 110 00:04:10,010 --> 00:04:11,660 to be working with these issues. 111 00:04:11,660 --> 00:04:13,130 >> And I wrote to my buddy in Saudia, 112 00:04:13,130 --> 00:04:14,000 who's this woman that's 113 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:15,260 writing to you about this stuff? 114 00:04:15,260 --> 00:04:16,520 And he said, she's not like 115 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:17,915 you. You should email her. 116 00:04:17,915 --> 00:04:19,760 She was actually enroute to go 117 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:21,935 work with Mother Teresa's Sisters in India. 118 00:04:21,935 --> 00:04:23,690 And I sent her off his email, 119 00:04:23,690 --> 00:04:24,680 I got this great idea. 120 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:25,490 Let's get started on 121 00:04:25,490 --> 00:04:26,750 Nike's wages in Indonesia 122 00:04:26,750 --> 00:04:28,970 >> And so he's like, I really need to go. 123 00:04:28,970 --> 00:04:30,905 >> She wrote me back. Sounds great. 124 00:04:30,905 --> 00:04:32,580 >> Let's go. 125 00:04:37,130 --> 00:04:40,440 >> We plopped down in Tangerang, Indonesia, 126 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:41,990 there's industrial suburb outside 127 00:04:41,990 --> 00:04:42,620 of the capital, 128 00:04:42,620 --> 00:04:44,180 Jakarta, with the plans 129 00:04:44,180 --> 00:04:45,530 that for the next month, 130 00:04:45,530 --> 00:04:47,240 we were going to live as 131 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:49,190 Nike's factory workers live, 132 00:04:49,190 --> 00:04:51,620 which meant that we were going to go live 133 00:04:51,620 --> 00:04:54,005 in a worker slum outside of the capital, 134 00:04:54,005 --> 00:04:54,950 and we were going to live 135 00:04:54,950 --> 00:04:56,030 on the worker's wages, 136 00:04:56,030 --> 00:04:58,850 $1.25 a day for the next month. 137 00:04:58,850 --> 00:05:00,045 Try and come maybe to 138 00:05:00,045 --> 00:05:02,825 a better understanding of what it's like 139 00:05:02,825 --> 00:05:05,000 for Nike factory workers to make 140 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:08,190 this money and live under these conditions. 141 00:05:10,130 --> 00:05:15,970 We lived in nine-by-nine cement box. 142 00:05:15,970 --> 00:05:18,160 It was over 100 degrees to 143 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:20,140 100% humidity is small windows, 144 00:05:20,140 --> 00:05:21,565 certainly no air conditioning. 145 00:05:21,565 --> 00:05:23,440 >> No furniture. You slept on 146 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:25,330 a very thin mat on 147 00:05:25,330 --> 00:05:26,920 an uneven cement floor 148 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:28,585 covered in shelf paper. 149 00:05:28,585 --> 00:05:32,125 >> The streets outside of your home are 150 00:05:32,125 --> 00:05:34,360 lined by open sores 151 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:36,805 and what that means like in the rainy season, 152 00:05:36,805 --> 00:05:38,740 you would have all that feces just 153 00:05:38,740 --> 00:05:40,060 float up into the streets 154 00:05:40,060 --> 00:05:40,990 and into your house. 155 00:05:40,990 --> 00:05:41,650 >> And every time that you 156 00:05:41,650 --> 00:05:42,879 go to the bathroom, 157 00:05:42,879 --> 00:05:44,950 it comes back out into the sewer for 158 00:05:44,950 --> 00:05:46,990 everybody else to see and smell. 159 00:05:46,990 --> 00:05:48,070 >> You would have 160 00:05:48,070 --> 00:05:49,510 football-sized rats that would 161 00:05:49,510 --> 00:05:50,890 stampede over the ceiling 162 00:05:50,890 --> 00:05:52,270 at night and come up through 163 00:05:52,270 --> 00:05:54,160 the toilet and look for stuff to 164 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:56,350 eat in the house or 165 00:05:56,350 --> 00:05:57,940 the fist-size cockroaches that 166 00:05:57,940 --> 00:06:00,110 would crawl over every night. 167 00:06:07,130 --> 00:06:10,055 >> Just like anyone around the world, 168 00:06:10,055 --> 00:06:11,840 you can't just drop into someone's life 169 00:06:11,840 --> 00:06:12,920 and be like, hi, 170 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:14,270 we're here, we want to live in 171 00:06:14,270 --> 00:06:16,640 your life and tell us how much it's sucks. 172 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:18,980 You had to build bonds of trust. 173 00:06:18,980 --> 00:06:19,865 >> Jim. 174 00:06:19,865 --> 00:06:20,630 >> City. 175 00:06:20,630 --> 00:06:21,040 >> City. 176 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:21,440 >> Jennie. 177 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:24,190 >> Jennie nice to meet you. 178 00:06:24,530 --> 00:06:26,840 >> They treated us very 179 00:06:26,840 --> 00:06:30,230 politely and it wasn't until they saw 180 00:06:30,230 --> 00:06:32,900 that we were committed 181 00:06:32,900 --> 00:06:35,225 in the capacity of living 182 00:06:35,225 --> 00:06:37,400 on the wages that they're forced to live 183 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:40,520 on in the conditions that they are living in. 184 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:41,720 They felt that they could 185 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:43,625 start to begin to trust us. 186 00:06:43,625 --> 00:06:45,890 You get to know them and you hold 187 00:06:45,890 --> 00:06:47,660 their children and you eat with them, 188 00:06:47,660 --> 00:06:48,920 you share stories with them, 189 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:51,350 they become part of your family. 190 00:06:51,350 --> 00:06:54,245 >> We would go to different workers homes. 191 00:06:54,245 --> 00:06:56,700 You've got like four women's sleep and 192 00:06:56,700 --> 00:06:58,790 an eight-by-eight cement box 193 00:06:58,790 --> 00:07:00,740 and all their possessions are in there, 194 00:07:00,740 --> 00:07:04,890 everything in this small area. 195 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:07,850 >> The workers would have to share 196 00:07:07,850 --> 00:07:11,015 a bathroom with 5-10 other families. 197 00:07:11,015 --> 00:07:12,410 The workers would have to share 198 00:07:12,410 --> 00:07:15,020 a living quarters, 199 00:07:15,020 --> 00:07:16,850 actually like a row 200 00:07:16,850 --> 00:07:20,330 of shacks with corrugated tin roofs. 201 00:07:20,330 --> 00:07:22,325 All of those families would share 202 00:07:22,325 --> 00:07:27,165 a laundry corner and a kitchen facilities. 203 00:07:27,165 --> 00:07:28,670 And they would all share 204 00:07:28,670 --> 00:07:32,280 the same well to take the water out of. 205 00:07:33,310 --> 00:07:36,050 >> $1.25 a day after you've 206 00:07:36,050 --> 00:07:39,770 paid for your rent, water, electricity, 207 00:07:39,770 --> 00:07:41,435 any major transportation costs, 208 00:07:41,435 --> 00:07:42,200 you're going to be left 209 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:43,550 on average with roughly 210 00:07:43,550 --> 00:07:46,175 7,000 rupiah per day. 211 00:07:46,175 --> 00:07:48,695 What the **** does that mean? 212 00:07:48,695 --> 00:07:51,110 That's going to buy you two simple meals 213 00:07:51,110 --> 00:07:52,370 or rice and vegetables, 214 00:07:52,370 --> 00:07:54,860 a bag of peanuts, a bottle ice tea, 215 00:07:54,860 --> 00:07:56,885 and some dish detergent. 216 00:07:56,885 --> 00:07:59,390 And that's all you can get, and 217 00:07:59,390 --> 00:08:01,145 that's your reward. 218 00:08:01,145 --> 00:08:02,975 >> Without a doubt. 219 00:08:02,975 --> 00:08:04,250 We found that out in 220 00:08:04,250 --> 00:08:05,750 the first week that we were there. 221 00:08:05,750 --> 00:08:08,060 There was no way that you can live on 222 00:08:08,060 --> 00:08:11,645 $1.25 a day and maintain your human dignity. 223 00:08:11,645 --> 00:08:13,950 It's just not possible. 224 00:08:17,410 --> 00:08:19,700 >> I lost 25 pounds 225 00:08:19,700 --> 00:08:22,625 living on Nike's wages in Indonesia. 226 00:08:22,625 --> 00:08:25,310 I spent a month painfully hungry and 227 00:08:25,310 --> 00:08:26,330 tired and like near 228 00:08:26,330 --> 00:08:27,850 the point of exhaustion most days. 229 00:08:27,850 --> 00:08:29,345 >> I just felt 230 00:08:29,345 --> 00:08:32,835 my energy storage was just depleted 231 00:08:32,835 --> 00:08:35,420 and I just started going downhill fast and 232 00:08:35,420 --> 00:08:38,240 I just started getting sick every day. 233 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:39,595 >> And she got very sick. 234 00:08:39,595 --> 00:08:41,775 She had a fever, 104. 235 00:08:41,775 --> 00:08:43,590 And she's got to 236 00:08:43,590 --> 00:08:45,770 deal with, I have a fever 104. 237 00:08:45,770 --> 00:08:47,330 I can buy aspirin and 238 00:08:47,330 --> 00:08:49,340 a little drink box to get some 239 00:08:49,340 --> 00:08:51,695 Vitamin C. But if I buy those two things, 240 00:08:51,695 --> 00:08:54,150 I don't eat for the rest of the day. 241 00:09:03,950 --> 00:09:05,840 >> We're going to go home. 242 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:06,480 We're going to say, 243 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:07,750 at least I got lot of money, 244 00:09:07,750 --> 00:09:08,370 no it's not going to be 245 00:09:08,370 --> 00:09:10,480 a **** thing different. 246 00:09:14,380 --> 00:09:17,560 >> How do you feel like your human being? 247 00:09:17,560 --> 00:09:22,725 How do you feel like your work, your gifts? 248 00:09:22,725 --> 00:09:24,200 For them the workers that 249 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:26,135 I've talked to you the last couple of days. 250 00:09:26,135 --> 00:09:29,630 Number of said the only thing we have is 251 00:09:29,630 --> 00:09:33,590 our physical labour because 252 00:09:33,590 --> 00:09:36,035 I just bought this smallest thing, 253 00:09:36,035 --> 00:09:38,660 shaving creams and one razor that I might be 254 00:09:38,660 --> 00:09:41,785 able to use two or three times that 255 00:09:41,785 --> 00:09:43,570 I have to cut out three meals 256 00:09:43,570 --> 00:09:52,220 this week. The highest people. 257 00:10:07,590 --> 00:10:10,015 >> They will be working 258 00:10:10,015 --> 00:10:13,135 overtime hours just to get by 259 00:10:13,135 --> 00:10:14,680 because they can't possibly 260 00:10:14,680 --> 00:10:15,880 get by on the ways that they're 261 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:17,080 paid without working 262 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:19,370 incredible amounts of time. 263 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:23,620 And when you're working up to 15 hours a day, 264 00:10:23,620 --> 00:10:25,510 6-7 days a week, 265 00:10:25,510 --> 00:10:29,500 your two-year-old child just doesn't see you. 266 00:10:29,500 --> 00:10:32,755 They don't get to see their children. 267 00:10:32,755 --> 00:10:35,125 >> The kids can't even go to school. 268 00:10:35,125 --> 00:10:36,340 How are you going to break 269 00:10:36,340 --> 00:10:37,780 a cycle of poverty and have 270 00:10:37,780 --> 00:10:40,090 real economic development if you have 271 00:10:40,090 --> 00:10:41,860 a whole lost generation 272 00:10:41,860 --> 00:10:44,379 of children that aren't even educated. 273 00:10:44,379 --> 00:10:54,520 I'm walking down this dirt path into 274 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:56,350 this village and I see 275 00:10:56,350 --> 00:10:57,790 this massive pile of 276 00:10:57,790 --> 00:10:59,680 scrap shoe rubber that I later 277 00:10:59,680 --> 00:11:01,120 learned came from one of 278 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:03,190 Nike's factories and piles 279 00:11:03,190 --> 00:11:05,350 like that get dumped there all the time. 280 00:11:05,350 --> 00:11:06,790 And the end result of 281 00:11:06,790 --> 00:11:08,170 these piles is that they get 282 00:11:08,170 --> 00:11:10,090 burned in that village in 283 00:11:10,090 --> 00:11:12,130 the big open space where kids play. 284 00:11:12,130 --> 00:11:13,510 And the burning fumes 285 00:11:13,510 --> 00:11:15,040 I learned from the company that 286 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:16,915 designs Nike shoe rubber 287 00:11:16,915 --> 00:11:19,940 will give off toxins and carcinogens. 288 00:11:19,940 --> 00:11:22,080 Kids are paying the price. 289 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:22,950 And they're the ones 290 00:11:22,950 --> 00:11:24,000 who have chest infections 291 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:24,600 and they're the ones that are 292 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:26,740 going to develop cancer. 293 00:11:31,740 --> 00:11:33,760 When we were in Indonesia, we 294 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:35,920 made attempts to get 295 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:37,405 into a Nike factory 296 00:11:37,405 --> 00:11:39,355 because Nike claims on their website, 297 00:11:39,355 --> 00:11:41,545 we have nothing to hide. I'm Mike. 298 00:11:41,545 --> 00:11:42,115 >> Hi, Mike. 299 00:11:42,115 --> 00:11:42,850 >> How you doing? 300 00:11:42,850 --> 00:11:43,315 >> Good. 301 00:11:43,315 --> 00:11:45,940 >> We went over to Nike's corporate offices 302 00:11:45,940 --> 00:11:48,355 and Nike denied us that. 303 00:11:48,355 --> 00:11:51,130 >> We're unable to accommodate that request. 304 00:11:51,130 --> 00:11:53,920 >> So Nike Headquarters 305 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:55,780 and Beaverton Oregon had faxed 306 00:11:55,780 --> 00:11:56,950 an info sheet at all the 307 00:11:56,950 --> 00:11:58,210 factories to be placed 308 00:11:58,210 --> 00:12:00,790 on the wall for all workers to see that red. 309 00:12:00,790 --> 00:12:02,260 If you are approached by 310 00:12:02,260 --> 00:12:04,405 Jim Keady, Leslie Kretzu, Mike Pierantozzi. 311 00:12:04,405 --> 00:12:05,965 >> Do not speak to them. They're 312 00:12:05,965 --> 00:12:07,330 only to speak to management. 313 00:12:07,330 --> 00:12:08,770 There will be severe consequences 314 00:12:08,770 --> 00:12:10,015 if you're found talking to them. 315 00:12:10,015 --> 00:12:11,410 >> And they know from 316 00:12:11,410 --> 00:12:13,675 their management how they're supposed to act. 317 00:12:13,675 --> 00:12:14,740 And if they don't, there's 318 00:12:14,740 --> 00:12:16,255 some severe ramifications. 319 00:12:16,255 --> 00:12:18,925 Anywhere from significant harassment 320 00:12:18,925 --> 00:12:20,350 to death. 321 00:12:20,350 --> 00:12:23,990 And I mean it in a very literal sense. 322 00:12:26,970 --> 00:12:29,680 Certainly, the management of 323 00:12:29,680 --> 00:12:31,690 the factory didn't want us to be there. 324 00:12:31,690 --> 00:12:33,415 And it was frightening because we eat 325 00:12:33,415 --> 00:12:35,275 several times trying to get into the factory. 326 00:12:35,275 --> 00:12:37,360 >> We weren't out of the van for 327 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:39,580 more than 3 minutes and 328 00:12:39,580 --> 00:12:41,860 there was security surrounding us. 329 00:12:41,860 --> 00:12:44,110 And then the factory managers came out. 330 00:12:44,110 --> 00:12:46,660 >> What's going on? We're outside a 331 00:12:46,660 --> 00:12:48,660 Nike shoe factory right now, 332 00:12:48,660 --> 00:12:50,545 security surrounded us. 333 00:12:50,545 --> 00:12:51,220 >> And they're like, 334 00:12:51,220 --> 00:12:53,095 what are you doing here? 335 00:12:53,095 --> 00:12:55,900 Why are you here? It was 336 00:12:55,900 --> 00:13:00,020 frightening because who knows? 337 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:04,345 >> Security guy here tracking us down. 338 00:13:04,345 --> 00:13:05,785 >> From that moment, 339 00:13:05,785 --> 00:13:09,295 we were tailed by factory security, 340 00:13:09,295 --> 00:13:12,490 the prey men for the local mafia. 341 00:13:12,490 --> 00:13:15,340 The local mafia certainly works in 342 00:13:15,340 --> 00:13:18,310 conjunction with these factory bosses. 343 00:13:18,310 --> 00:13:19,960 The factory bosses some 344 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:21,490 of them are just brutal, 345 00:13:21,490 --> 00:13:24,010 ruthless, hired muscle to 346 00:13:24,010 --> 00:13:25,060 keep workers in line. 347 00:13:25,060 --> 00:13:26,935 And we met with one worker, Julianto. 348 00:13:26,935 --> 00:13:28,720 He told us because he was union 349 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:29,770 organized and he was trying to 350 00:13:29,770 --> 00:13:30,970 form an independent union. 351 00:13:30,970 --> 00:13:33,715 >> He was threatened at gunpoint. 352 00:13:33,715 --> 00:13:36,460 He had his house ransacked. 353 00:13:36,460 --> 00:13:38,560 He was given death threats and he had to 354 00:13:38,560 --> 00:13:40,660 flee back to his home village. 355 00:13:40,660 --> 00:13:44,600 Because in fear of his life. 356 00:13:45,300 --> 00:13:48,940 This is literally a life-and-death issue. 357 00:13:48,940 --> 00:13:51,850 And this happens at all the factories. 358 00:13:51,850 --> 00:13:54,550 >> Every worker that we talk to, 359 00:13:54,550 --> 00:13:58,180 there's this struggled with this fear, 360 00:13:58,180 --> 00:13:59,980 this culture of fear that 361 00:13:59,980 --> 00:14:02,095 just permeates the air 362 00:14:02,095 --> 00:14:04,300 that they want to 363 00:14:04,300 --> 00:14:05,350 tell you the truth and 364 00:14:05,350 --> 00:14:06,580 try and fight for their rights, 365 00:14:06,580 --> 00:14:07,960 but they also want their kids 366 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:10,060 to have a father or a mother. 367 00:14:10,060 --> 00:14:13,008 They're dealing every day with the threat of 368 00:14:13,008 --> 00:14:14,170 losing their lives for 369 00:14:14,170 --> 00:14:15,280 doing this kind of work. 370 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:17,125 I mean, they show tremendous courage 371 00:14:17,125 --> 00:14:19,010 in light of that. 372 00:14:20,340 --> 00:14:22,030 We were able to meet 373 00:14:22,030 --> 00:14:22,750 with a woman by the name of 374 00:14:22,750 --> 00:14:24,460 Dita Sari who had been 375 00:14:24,460 --> 00:14:27,850 organizing Nike and Reebok factory workers at 376 00:14:27,850 --> 00:14:29,800 the age of 23 and was illegally 377 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:31,960 jailed and put in prison and tortured. 378 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:34,105 >> In 8th of July 1996, 379 00:14:34,105 --> 00:14:35,905 I was arrested by the army, 380 00:14:35,905 --> 00:14:38,005 the local army in East Java. 381 00:14:38,005 --> 00:14:40,570 They kicked me and they used their fists 382 00:14:40,570 --> 00:14:43,030 and their sticks and their boot to 383 00:14:43,030 --> 00:14:45,400 hurt me and to torture me in front of 384 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:49,310 the workers to show them an example. 385 00:14:51,030 --> 00:14:53,050 >> I think that the majority of 386 00:14:53,050 --> 00:14:54,955 workers are saying, "Look, 387 00:14:54,955 --> 00:14:58,765 we don't want you to pull out the jobs. 388 00:14:58,765 --> 00:15:01,345 We want to work. We'd like to work. 389 00:15:01,345 --> 00:15:03,220 We want to make the shoes 390 00:15:03,220 --> 00:15:05,320 we were proud of what we do, 391 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:08,405 but we don't want to be exploited. 392 00:15:08,405 --> 00:15:10,290 Why can't you just let 393 00:15:10,290 --> 00:15:11,865 us meet our basic needs?" 394 00:15:11,865 --> 00:15:13,215 >> We're talking about food, 395 00:15:13,215 --> 00:15:14,940 clothing, housing, health care, 396 00:15:14,940 --> 00:15:16,770 education, being 397 00:15:16,770 --> 00:15:17,940 able to take care of your kids, 398 00:15:17,940 --> 00:15:20,030 and some modest savings. 399 00:15:20,030 --> 00:15:22,375 That's not a tall order. 400 00:15:22,375 --> 00:15:24,190 >> Excuse me, do you guys know 401 00:15:24,190 --> 00:15:25,405 where the Nike campus is? 402 00:15:25,405 --> 00:15:25,945 >> Yeah. 403 00:15:25,945 --> 00:15:27,490 >> You make a right on walker. 404 00:15:27,490 --> 00:15:27,940 >> Yeah. 405 00:15:27,940 --> 00:15:31,820 >> You'll see it on your southwest corner. 406 00:15:32,550 --> 00:15:35,755 >> So we're on Nike's campus right now. 407 00:15:35,755 --> 00:15:36,880 It's a little bit 408 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:39,430 different than the factories in Indonesia, 409 00:15:39,430 --> 00:15:41,420 just a tiny bit. 410 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:42,620 >> Hi, how are you? 411 00:15:42,620 --> 00:15:43,150 >> Hi, good to see you. 412 00:15:43,150 --> 00:15:45,490 >> Nice to meet you finaly. 413 00:15:45,490 --> 00:15:46,130 >> Yeah. 414 00:15:46,130 --> 00:15:46,131 >> I was hoping to set up some time where 415 00:15:46,131 --> 00:15:49,600 we could talk. I'm really concerned about 416 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:51,340 the workforce in Indonesia. 417 00:15:51,340 --> 00:15:53,140 You know, I spent the summer there 418 00:15:53,140 --> 00:15:55,120 living with them, and living on 419 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:56,140 the wages that are paid to 420 00:15:56,140 --> 00:15:57,205 the factory workers. 421 00:15:57,205 --> 00:15:58,135 >> You're worried about that. 422 00:15:58,135 --> 00:15:58,885 >> Yeah. 423 00:15:58,885 --> 00:15:59,830 >> Why don't you call 424 00:15:59,830 --> 00:16:01,000 my secretary, see what happens? 425 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:02,770 >> I did. I called Lisa last week. 426 00:16:02,770 --> 00:16:05,245 I called Vada, I called Dusty, 427 00:16:05,245 --> 00:16:07,000 Brad Figel, I called Amanda. 428 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:07,390 >> You're going to have to talk 429 00:16:07,390 --> 00:16:08,000 someone else, maybe. 430 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:09,520 You need to talk to Dusty Kidd. 431 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:10,690 >> You are the guy the buck 432 00:16:10,690 --> 00:16:11,740 stops with you, right? 433 00:16:11,740 --> 00:16:13,255 >> Yeah, it doesn't start with me though. 434 00:16:13,255 --> 00:16:15,790 >> No, but I don't know who else to talk to. 435 00:16:15,790 --> 00:16:16,990 >> Try Dusty Kidd. 436 00:16:16,990 --> 00:16:18,460 >> He doesn't want to talk to me. 437 00:16:18,460 --> 00:16:20,200 >> Then I guess you don't get through then. 438 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:21,730 >> But you are the man. 439 00:16:21,730 --> 00:16:22,795 >> Thank you. 440 00:16:22,795 --> 00:16:25,420 >> You are the man that needs to. 441 00:16:25,420 --> 00:16:27,370 >> I appreciate your concern but I'm having 442 00:16:27,370 --> 00:16:28,150 lunch with a friend 443 00:16:28,150 --> 00:16:29,320 and we've talked about it and you're. 444 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:31,255 >> I apologize for interrupting your lunch. 445 00:16:31,255 --> 00:16:32,530 I've come all the way from 446 00:16:32,530 --> 00:16:33,940 New Jersey to talk to you about this. 447 00:16:33,940 --> 00:16:34,990 >> I am not talking to you. 448 00:16:34,990 --> 00:16:37,195 >> I've got to stonewalled at every turn. 449 00:16:37,195 --> 00:16:38,740 You know workers have asked of 450 00:16:38,740 --> 00:16:41,620 me that I try to bring you back to 451 00:16:41,620 --> 00:16:43,840 Indonesia to meet them in 452 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:47,780 their homes not in the office in Jakarta. 453 00:16:48,420 --> 00:16:52,660 >> Do you understand no? You just got a no. 454 00:16:52,660 --> 00:16:56,140 I'm not going to talk to you about it. 455 00:16:56,140 --> 00:16:58,435 >> Phil Knight, the CEO of Nike 456 00:16:58,435 --> 00:17:00,880 or Michael Jordan or Tiger Woods or 457 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:02,020 Mia Hamm or any 458 00:17:02,020 --> 00:17:03,190 of the other people that are really 459 00:17:03,190 --> 00:17:04,330 making a lot of money 460 00:17:04,330 --> 00:17:06,175 because of the way that Nike does things, 461 00:17:06,175 --> 00:17:08,215 should care about these workers 462 00:17:08,215 --> 00:17:10,970 because they're human beings. 463 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:17,560 >> When I see people like Tiger Woods get 464 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:20,140 $100 million just for 465 00:17:20,140 --> 00:17:22,405 wearing the clothes, we're saying, 466 00:17:22,405 --> 00:17:23,815 as a society like 467 00:17:23,815 --> 00:17:25,390 this one individual because 468 00:17:25,390 --> 00:17:26,815 they play golf well, 469 00:17:26,815 --> 00:17:31,460 is worth more than 700,000 people. 470 00:17:40,590 --> 00:17:43,764 >> We've made up these wage charts 471 00:17:43,764 --> 00:17:45,520 and have them looked down at it. 472 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:47,845 And then look up and say, 473 00:17:47,845 --> 00:17:49,780 Tiger Woods makes enough in a 474 00:17:49,780 --> 00:17:53,110 second to buy me a house. 475 00:17:53,110 --> 00:17:59,300 Why? I work hard for the company too. 476 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:02,920 What do you say to them? 477 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:05,875 That's the system. Deal with it, suck it up. 478 00:18:05,875 --> 00:18:08,170 It's capitalism's survival of the fittest. 479 00:18:08,170 --> 00:18:10,250 I guess you're not the fittest. 480 00:18:12,510 --> 00:18:15,130 Nike is in Indonesia for 481 00:18:15,130 --> 00:18:17,515 one reason, cheap labor. 482 00:18:17,515 --> 00:18:19,810 >> It's an ideology of maximizing 483 00:18:19,810 --> 00:18:22,915 profit at all costs to humanity and nature. 484 00:18:22,915 --> 00:18:25,150 And it's this entire like 485 00:18:25,150 --> 00:18:28,000 a vicious cycle that starts with 486 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:30,580 the heads of the corporations that want to 487 00:18:30,580 --> 00:18:32,410 make a great return on shareholders’ 488 00:18:32,410 --> 00:18:32,411 investment. 489 00:18:32,411 --> 00:18:35,800 >> Some people say, 490 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:36,940 that's the way things are. 491 00:18:36,940 --> 00:18:38,110 That's the American way. 492 00:18:38,110 --> 00:18:40,195 It's capitalism, that's the American way. 493 00:18:40,195 --> 00:18:42,805 The American way is democracy. 494 00:18:42,805 --> 00:18:44,740 That's what our country was founded on. 495 00:18:44,740 --> 00:18:47,305 I belief that all people are equal. 496 00:18:47,305 --> 00:18:50,140 That there should be respect for democracy, 497 00:18:50,140 --> 00:18:51,490 for human rights, and for 498 00:18:51,490 --> 00:18:52,930 the protection of human life. 499 00:18:52,930 --> 00:18:55,240 That's what we're about as Americans. 500 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:57,010 We spent the last year and 501 00:18:57,010 --> 00:18:59,020 a half travelling around the country, 502 00:18:59,020 --> 00:19:01,180 visiting over 100 schools, high schools, 503 00:19:01,180 --> 00:19:03,895 and universities, 15,000 students. 504 00:19:03,895 --> 00:19:05,380 How are you feeling about the turnout? 505 00:19:05,380 --> 00:19:06,955 >> I'm feeling pretty good about the turnout. 506 00:19:06,955 --> 00:19:07,660 >> What do you thinking 507 00:19:07,660 --> 00:19:09,000 about the turnout here? 508 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:10,785 >> It's great. This is 509 00:19:10,785 --> 00:19:12,780 the best possible turnout. 510 00:19:12,780 --> 00:19:14,760 >> And we try as best we can to 511 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:18,010 introduce them to these human beings. 512 00:19:18,010 --> 00:19:20,245 And say, as students, 513 00:19:20,245 --> 00:19:21,910 as high-school athletes, 514 00:19:21,910 --> 00:19:24,070 as college athletes, as consumers, 515 00:19:24,070 --> 00:19:25,930 you've got tremendous power. 516 00:19:25,930 --> 00:19:28,000 And because we can't fly them over to 517 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,745 Indonesia we bring Indonesia to them. 518 00:19:30,745 --> 00:19:33,070 And if we can give them that spark, 519 00:19:33,070 --> 00:19:35,875 even if it's one or two on that day, 520 00:19:35,875 --> 00:19:37,600 that's going to multiply and 521 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:40,570 eventually we'll reach this critical mass. 522 00:19:40,570 --> 00:19:42,040 And we'll have a great harvest. 523 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:43,990 And the harvest will be truth and 524 00:19:43,990 --> 00:19:48,170 justice and fairness for all people. 525 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:54,190 Something's wrong here and we can fix it. 526 00:19:54,190 --> 00:19:56,080 It's a necessity. 527 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:58,240 >> The tipping point is now. 528 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:00,489 >> At this point in our history, 529 00:20:00,489 --> 00:20:04,700 we need a story like this to be told.