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Please welcome my guests with love,

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Steve Drain and Timothy Phelps of the

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Wesboro Baptist Church; it's a type of religion.

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[boos from crowd]

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Don't be mean. Don't be mean.

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Which one are you, mate?

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I'm Steve.

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Steve, sit down bruv.

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Which one are you?

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Timothy.

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Hello, Timothy.

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Sit down in comfort.

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I want to bring you a sign, first of all.

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This says "Fag Pimp Brand".

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Absolutely, absolutely.

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Make yourself comfy, mate.

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Now this of course is clearly offensive as an object.

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"Fag pimp Brand". And I'm depicted here.

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That's not a very flattering photograph.

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It's the face you made. You made the face.

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I made the face, I pays the price.

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Fair enough, that's true.

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And it says here that I'm a fag pimp.

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Yep.

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I'm English of course so being a fag pimp just means

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Cigarette?

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But in the world of vitriolic hate speech

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fag means?

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Homosexual.
It means you're an advocate for sin,

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and a very loud one at that.

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[cheering]

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Thank you, I appreciate your vocal respect but

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these people are to explain something to me and

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it does take courage and bravery to come in front of

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a room full of people you think almost certainly

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ain't gonnna agree with you so let's hear what

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they have to say because I'm actually very interested.

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Fag pimp Brand. Ok, we're keeping this.

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You make your living making a mockery of sin.

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In fact, since you promote sin, you hate all these kind

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people in your heart.

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Oooh, I don't. I love them.

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That's why he applauds your sin. Because he hates you all.

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I don't applaud any sins what's hurting people or yourselves.

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You encourage them and then they burn in hell for

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all eternity, so that's not very loving.

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When the Lord Jesus Christ said to love your neighbour as yourself

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you love your neighbour as yourself by warning them when their

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sin is taking them to hell.

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And as a matter of fact, if you fail to warn your

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neighbour, you hate your neighbour in your heart.

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So, by a bible standard, we love you all,

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and I know you can't believe that from your goofy

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hallmark standard, but from a bible standard we love you.

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And from a bible standard, he hates you.

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And you probably hate each other.

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Bloody hell!

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It's like a really tricky quiz of hate.

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Steve, Tim, do you mind if I do the, I mean I got some questions

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here because it'll help us for our interview.

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Why did you come here?

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It's our duty.

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For your mission?

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It's our duty...
To warn these people to stop sinning.

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The bible says this: "Cry aloud, stare not, lift up thy

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voice like a trumpet and show the people their transgressions."

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How do you show people their transgressions without

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making it crystal clear what their sin is?

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God hates fags.

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Dude, I know it's not popular, but we're not making

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this stuff up. It's right in the bible.

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Look there's three...
And those that practice all those acts.

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Look, first of all, first of all we're not talking...

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Hey, you lot. One at a time you will all get a chance

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to speak.

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In hell!

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[laughter]

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We're not talking about a base human passion

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like you or I might feel, like you or I might hate each

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other, it's simply...

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Just so you know, I love you.

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I know, I love you too. It's simply God's fixed

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determination to punish the wicked in hell for their sins.

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Because he can. Because he's God. Because he's sovereign.

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Because he can. That's crazy.

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and indefatigably wrong. That's what it is?

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I got you man, I understand that.

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Well put, well put other than the accent. Very well put.

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This is how this language is supposed to be spoken,

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cheeky.

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Look, we just preach the bible. We're not

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making this stuff up.

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That's their catchphrase, I like it.

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The uk...

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Westboro Baptist Church: We're not making this stuff up.

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This is to be found also in Corinthians.

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Verse four.

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What's your next question?

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I just feel from what I've read of Jesus, and of what I've

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had explained to me, that his main message was

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definitely tolerance and love and truth and beauty

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and acceptance.

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Hold on. Except that you don't get to define the love of God.

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Nor do you though!

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Hold on! Hold on!

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We do that!
The bible does!

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We got this thing.

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The bible does, and here's a couple things that he said.

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First of all, he says that here's my love that you keep

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my commandments and my commandments are not grevious.

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And second of all, he said he that sayeth...

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Look mate, you're good at the scripture and verse, but I gotta say this to ya.

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Have you considered that the bible, like all religious doctrine,

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may be allegorical and symbolic to direct us towards

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one holy entity of love as opposed to a specific

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litigiousness text to direct the behaviour of human beings.

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The bible wasn't literally written by a cosmic entity,

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it was written by people.

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It was written by the Holy Spirit.

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They were moved by the Holy Ghost.

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The Holy Spirit ain't got a pen!

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Sure he does.
It was written by human beings.

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You're just making a mock of sin.

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I'm not mate.

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God works in you. You don't have any stinking power

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of your own, Russell. Get over yourself.

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I agree with you, I agree with that also.

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You don't have any power. If God doesn't move in

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you to do a thing, then you don't do it.

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I agree with the basics, but it's just where it goes

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into sex stuff, because I just think it's such a low

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priority when there's so many important things happening.

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Like don't you think, and this is a genuine question,

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what do you think God thinks of the ecological

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disaster and the growing power of corperations.

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Don't you think he is worried about that more than

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the bumming?

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Now it's time for the Westboro Baptist Church

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Heaven or Hell? game. Tell me whether these people

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are going to Heaven or Hell.

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1. Madonna

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Hell.

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Ahhh!

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Tom Hanks.

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Definitely Tom Hanks.

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What for?

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C'mon. He lives for himself for God's sake.

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Tom Hanks, you've been very selfish.

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Besides that, besides that, look. Anyone

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who has a considerable platform, like you do, like

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Tom Hanks has, and you don't give God the glory, you don't give

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your maker the glory for making you and giving you that position...

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I do! I do!

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No you don't.
This is definitely due to a powerful cosmic entity

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that creates all energy and wants us all to be

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unified in love. If I didn't make that clear I'm sorry.

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What you do is you...

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Look, there's good old bloody Krishna here,

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dancing on the head of evil, to acknowledge that

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everything belongs to God.

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It's an idol. It's an idol. You're fashioning...

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Right, that's going to Hell.

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You're fashioning a conception of God out of your own dark heart.

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Tom Hanks, Hell for you.

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Ghandi?

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Hell.

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Aaahh!

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He was trying his hardest!

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Hey, I got the answer.

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Wait! This is why Ghandi's going to hell. Shut up.

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Listen, Billy Gram, ok, got rich off of this saying:

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"God loves the sinner hates the sin". Gandhi's the

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one who coined that phrase, Billy Gram said "I'm

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gonna make some money off that."

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Gandhi put out that lie well before Billy Gram, and it

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is a lie.

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So Gandhi goes to Hell.

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Sure.

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I wanna watch that movie.

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Maybe more-so than Madonna.

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Maybe more than Madonna?

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Imagine Gandhi in a pointy bra, in Hell.

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What about these two. Firstly their not as big as

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everyone else.

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I dunno.

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I dunno.
One's black one's white. Hell!

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No, god, no.

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Hey, you know what?

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Well if f***ing Gandhi's going down!

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No no, hold on.
None of us are safe!

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We'll have a quick commercial break now, see you in a moment.

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Up next, Rus has a surprise for the Westbro Baptists.

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And now we have here, what I can only describe as

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some homosexuals. Their my mates, I brought them here.

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Let's meet them now. Some gays.

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This is Chere, Carlos, Sisi.

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Right.

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Before we start the interview, if anyone's attracted

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to these three men, err, give me a call,

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Russell Brand: Fag Pimp.

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I can do you a very good price on Sisi.

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Ok, right, so.

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I need Jose to come and help me. Jose does sound

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and drives me here. Jose, please welcome.

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Before we start, you're not gay are you?

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No.

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You've got the job. Stand there so you don't seem

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like you're behind the fellas because it'll unsettle

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them. The last thing they want is three gay men behind them.

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Now what is it? You're gay, Sisi?

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Openly gay.

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No he's not.

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And a Christian.

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You're a filthy pervert.

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I'm an openly gay man and I'm a Christian because

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God is love and his love is for everybody, not

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just for you two.

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Unless you repent for that sin you're going to go t hell.

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Look, thou shall not lie with mankind as with

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womankind, that's in the bible.

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that you say you believe.

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I don't think that's one of the most important bits.

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There's no...Hey listen! There's not going to be any

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creation going on when two men get together, I

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can tell you that right now.

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Steve, what worries me, to follow the you mustn't lay with men bit

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you've got to ignore the tolerance and love bit.

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And that's got to be more important. That's like

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as sub-clause. That's like smallprint.

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No it's not. No it's not.

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I don't even think they meant that bit.

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People in Sodom thought it was OK to be gay.

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Tim, Tim. Give us a second because we're trying to

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construct a telly program.

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You guys have to be civil. We're gonna respect you

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so you respect us, OK?

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You're a sodomising hypocrite.

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No, don't do that, no no.

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Ah ah ah, no touching.

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All right, don't be so cross.

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You tell them.

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Stop upsetting my mates.

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They're trying their best to be homophobic over here.

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Imagine, right, if we all go to Heaven and God's like

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"You f***ing idiots."

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Oh no! They told us!
And that's what's going to happen

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That's gonnna happen.

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Listen, OK, I think I feel like

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I think you're nice people and I really like your passion and everything,

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but I just feel our first duty as human being is to

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be loving and tolerant of one another, and I think

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we're facing so much crisis and difficulty at this time on our planet

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that we can't focus on people's private issues.

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We love you enough to tell you what God's standard

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I love you too. I love you too.

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That's the definition of loving your neighbour.

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If you love me so much will you kiss me on the mouth?

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Ladies and gentlemen, the Westboro Baptist Church and some lovely gay lads together.

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Give me a cuddle.

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Give me a cuddle.

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No no no.

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What about you?

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Just a pat like this.