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Dialogue: 0,0:00:07.47,0:00:12.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Ursula von Rydingsvard: "Ona"]
Dialogue: 0,0:00:19.38,0:00:20.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[buzzing sounds from machinery]
Dialogue: 0,0:00:20.98,0:00:23.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Polich Talix Fine Art Foundry, Rock Tavern, NY]
Dialogue: 0,0:00:36.73,0:00:41.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm trying to get a look that has a wide range--
Dialogue: 0,0:00:41.40,0:00:42.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a variation--
Dialogue: 0,0:00:43.36,0:00:45.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,between the different colors.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:48.31,0:00:49.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[VON RYDINGSVARD] And then I did this a lot.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:49.92,0:00:50.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[PHILIP CASTORE] I see that. I like it.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:50.84,0:00:51.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[VON RYDINGSVARD] And I did this.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:51.97,0:00:53.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I really exaggerated.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:53.24,0:00:54.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[CASTORE] Okay.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:54.16,0:00:56.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[VON RYDINGSVARD] But you, with your leaky lines,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:56.05,0:00:57.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,might have made the best thing of all,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:57.22,0:00:58.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,do you know what I mean?
Dialogue: 0,0:00:58.42,0:00:59.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Philip Castore, Patina Artist]
Dialogue: 0,0:00:59.28,0:01:00.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[CASTORE] Well, we'll see!
Dialogue: 0,0:01:00.35,0:01:01.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[VON RYDINGSVARD] We'll see what it looks like.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:02.00,0:01:06.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm just trying to figure out what is going to work!
Dialogue: 0,0:01:07.33,0:01:10.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Next to a big big big Corten steel building.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:16.24,0:01:18.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Barclays Center piece "Ona"
Dialogue: 0,0:01:18.87,0:01:22.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is really the most major piece that I've done in bronze.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:22.79,0:01:26.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have never done anything quite that scale.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:27.19,0:01:30.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And "ona" in Polish refers to 'her' or 'she',
Dialogue: 0,0:01:31.75,0:01:35.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I thought that there's something about that sculpture
Dialogue: 0,0:01:35.86,0:01:40.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that has some hint of a female feel.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:42.29,0:01:44.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is a simple name and it has a reference
Dialogue: 0,0:01:44.99,0:01:46.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that makes sense in my head
Dialogue: 0,0:01:46.55,0:01:50.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in terms of what that sculpture looks like.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:03.10,0:02:05.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was surprised I was using colors.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:06.34,0:02:08.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I can't stand colors ordinarily
Dialogue: 0,0:02:08.66,0:02:10.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because, in part, I don't know how to use them.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:10.72,0:02:13.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But, also, they feel abrasive to my eyes.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:13.56,0:02:16.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I was amazed that I was doing this with a patina.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:20.49,0:02:23.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I really didn't know where I was going,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:23.15,0:02:25.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I kept thinking during the whole process
Dialogue: 0,0:02:25.26,0:02:26.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of my putting on the patina,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:26.55,0:02:30.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Ursula, you should have stuck to your black!"
Dialogue: 0,0:02:31.12,0:02:34.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I was convinced that for the Barclays Center,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:34.32,0:02:38.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is so loaded with that metal look--
Dialogue: 0,0:02:38.06,0:02:40.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the rusting Corten steel.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:40.46,0:02:44.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was so convinced that I wanted something that was lighter and brighter.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:47.40,0:02:50.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[CASTORE] The heat opens up the pores of the bronze
Dialogue: 0,0:02:50.31,0:02:52.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and readily accepts the chemical.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:52.44,0:02:55.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can have a wet application or a dry application.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:55.40,0:02:57.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It gives you different looks.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:58.98,0:03:02.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[VON RYDINGSVARD] I've been able to make the wood do acrobatics,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:02.65,0:03:06.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I sort of twist it to go into places
Dialogue: 0,0:03:06.78,0:03:09.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it never thought it could or would want to.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:10.12,0:03:12.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I can't do that with metal.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:14.65,0:03:16.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's a level of frustration
Dialogue: 0,0:03:16.81,0:03:21.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because I feel like I'm not in as much control.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:23.45,0:03:25.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The beautiful thing that the wood can do
Dialogue: 0,0:03:25.38,0:03:27.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is give me so many details.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:28.34,0:03:31.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It gives me a psychological base
Dialogue: 0,0:03:31.63,0:03:35.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and details of that base with which to work.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:37.50,0:03:40.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm definitely not trying to replicate the wood.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:41.15,0:03:44.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I'm wanting it to feel like metal,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:44.82,0:03:46.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because it obviously will feel like it.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:46.72,0:03:48.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I want it to look like metal.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:49.46,0:03:51.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But bronze in any case, in time,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:51.85,0:03:54.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sort of finds its own patina,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:54.18,0:03:56.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then it takes on its own look.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:06.84,0:04:09.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Often these sculptures are large.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:09.12,0:04:10.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Often I'm on scaffolding.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:10.84,0:04:13.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm on scaffolding, in fact, one-third of my life.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:14.48,0:04:16.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's always this urgency
Dialogue: 0,0:04:16.21,0:04:20.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with my having only so many years left.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:20.32,0:04:23.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And when they say, "When you get older, life gets easier,"--
Dialogue: 0,0:04:24.01,0:04:25.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it does not.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:26.09,0:04:29.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, my biggest hope is that I get more courage,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:29.88,0:04:31.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I get more trust in myself,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:31.71,0:04:32.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I get more faith--
Dialogue: 0,0:04:32.78,0:04:37.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that I'm able to do things that maybe I wasn't able to do before.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:37.82,0:04:42.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I feel unbelievably lucky to have the kind of talent--
Dialogue: 0,0:04:42.48,0:04:44.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the kind of brains--
Dialogue: 0,0:04:44.08,0:04:46.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that are working with me.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:49.18,0:04:52.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've been working in Brooklyn for thirty-four years.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:53.14,0:04:57.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It does make me happy that there's a piece of mine in Brooklyn.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:02.14,0:05:06.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was very clear that this was not a museum situation.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:07.88,0:05:10.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I wanted this to feel
Dialogue: 0,0:05:11.38,0:05:15.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as though one could approach the work...
Dialogue: 0,0:05:15.42,0:05:17.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that one could approach it psychologically.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:17.58,0:05:19.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One could also approach it physically.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:19.74,0:05:22.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But they would both sort of blend.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:22.94,0:05:25.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Somehow, I think that one could almost
Dialogue: 0,0:05:25.28,0:05:27.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,see with one's hands, as well,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:27.18,0:05:28.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when one feels it.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:37.52,0:05:41.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It just gives me pleasure to have the possibility
Dialogue: 0,0:05:42.55,0:05:45.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to enable people to be exposed to art,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:45.84,0:05:47.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,should they want to.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:50.41,0:05:53.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's nothing that I would wish to force upon them.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:54.38,0:05:56.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But that makes me feel good.