[Script Info] Title: [Events] Format: Layer, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text Dialogue: 0,0:00:05.24,0:00:10.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The subject is "Doubt about Holy Spirit," Dialogue: 0,0:00:10.71,0:00:16.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from Midhun P. Matthew. Dialogue: 0,0:00:16.86,0:00:18.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he writes this, "Hi, brother. Dialogue: 0,0:00:18.60,0:00:22.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Greetings in the name of our \NLord and Savior Jesus Christ. Dialogue: 0,0:00:22.11,0:00:25.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is the second time \NI write a letter to you. Dialogue: 0,0:00:25.69,0:00:27.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When I wrote the first time, Dialogue: 0,0:00:27.33,0:00:30.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was in a desperate situation Dialogue: 0,0:00:30.43,0:00:31.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on my spiritual life. Dialogue: 0,0:00:31.92,0:00:33.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,God heard my prayer. Dialogue: 0,0:00:33.43,0:00:35.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now I am a happy man. Dialogue: 0,0:00:35.72,0:00:37.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thanks for your support." Dialogue: 0,0:00:37.30,0:00:39.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Probably James, you dealt with him, Dialogue: 0,0:00:39.27,0:00:40.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because I don't remember that name. Dialogue: 0,0:00:40.98,0:00:42.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,James: Who was that? Dialogue: 0,0:00:42.10,0:00:45.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Tim: Midhun. Dialogue: 0,0:00:45.85,0:00:49.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(unintelligible) Dialogue: 0,0:00:49.43,0:00:52.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Now I am eagerly studying the Word of God Dialogue: 0,0:00:52.51,0:00:54.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in a daily manner. Dialogue: 0,0:00:54.24,0:00:55.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I am very curious about it Dialogue: 0,0:00:55.96,0:00:59.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I try to share the \NGospel with others also. Dialogue: 0,0:00:59.22,0:01:01.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When I started to share \Nthe Gospel with others, Dialogue: 0,0:01:01.78,0:01:03.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I had to face many, many questions, Dialogue: 0,0:01:03.63,0:01:07.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,mostly from my Catholic \Nand Jacobite believers. Dialogue: 0,0:01:07.96,0:01:12.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All of them are my friends." Dialogue: 0,0:01:12.54,0:01:14.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Let me ask, anybody familiar Dialogue: 0,0:01:14.03,0:01:19.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with what the Jacobites are? Dialogue: 0,0:01:19.23,0:01:22.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ever heard that name before? Dialogue: 0,0:01:22.28,0:01:25.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Okay. They're basically Orthodox. Dialogue: 0,0:01:25.10,0:01:31.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They would be an \NEastern Orthodox offshoot. Dialogue: 0,0:01:31.31,0:01:34.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Probably mainly in India. Dialogue: 0,0:01:34.94,0:01:39.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Someone asked me about the Holy Spirit Dialogue: 0,0:01:39.66,0:01:42.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I gave my belief as follows: Dialogue: 0,0:01:42.65,0:01:45.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We receive the Holy Spirit Dialogue: 0,0:01:45.48,0:01:49.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at the same moment we believe Christ. Dialogue: 0,0:01:49.97,0:01:51.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the Holy Spirit becomes Dialogue: 0,0:01:51.68,0:01:53.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,our permanent possession Dialogue: 0,0:01:53.48,0:01:55.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the moment we believe. Dialogue: 0,0:01:55.85,0:01:58.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I came to this conclusion Dialogue: 0,0:01:58.03,0:02:01.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,mainly by these two verses." Dialogue: 0,0:02:01.15,0:02:04.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, let's look at the two \Nverses that he references. Dialogue: 0,0:02:04.41,0:02:09.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The first verse is 1 Corinthians 12:3. Dialogue: 0,0:02:09.43,0:02:11.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So let's look at that. Dialogue: 0,0:02:11.25,0:02:18.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, 1 Corinthians 12:3 Dialogue: 0,0:02:18.24,0:02:23.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is one of the verses that he was using Dialogue: 0,0:02:23.50,0:02:29.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to tell his Catholic and Jacobite friends Dialogue: 0,0:02:29.33,0:02:33.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we get the Spirit of God \Nthe moment we believe. Dialogue: 0,0:02:33.14,0:02:36.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, I'm not sure exactly what translation Dialogue: 0,0:02:36.02,0:02:37.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he's reading from, but he has the verse Dialogue: 0,0:02:37.95,0:02:39.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,printed out here so I'll just read it Dialogue: 0,0:02:39.85,0:02:41.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the way he has it. Dialogue: 0,0:02:41.28,0:02:43.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Therefore, I want you to understand Dialogue: 0,0:02:43.41,0:02:46.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that no one speaking in the Spirit of God Dialogue: 0,0:02:46.18,0:02:48.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ever says, 'Jesus is accursed,' Dialogue: 0,0:02:48.86,0:02:52.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and no one can say, 'Jesus is Lord,' Dialogue: 0,0:02:52.99,0:02:58.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,except in the Holy Spirit." Dialogue: 0,0:02:58.32,0:03:02.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So he sees this as a verse that means Dialogue: 0,0:03:02.86,0:03:06.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you're saved, you've \Ngot the Holy Spirit. Dialogue: 0,0:03:06.58,0:03:18.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Can anybody see why he would think that? Dialogue: 0,0:03:18.14,0:03:24.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is actually an interesting text. Dialogue: 0,0:03:24.80,0:03:26.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What do you make of it? Dialogue: 0,0:03:26.82,0:03:30.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Can a lost person say, "Jesus is Lord"? Dialogue: 0,0:03:30.41,0:03:32.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And in fact, let me ask this question, Dialogue: 0,0:03:32.80,0:03:35.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is there not even a verse in our Bible Dialogue: 0,0:03:35.07,0:03:36.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that says that there are people Dialogue: 0,0:03:36.54,0:03:37.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that say "Jesus is Lord," Dialogue: 0,0:03:37.90,0:03:40.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but on the last day, Dialogue: 0,0:03:40.40,0:03:44.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Jesus is going to say, "I never knew you." Dialogue: 0,0:03:44.43,0:03:47.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What's Paul saying here? Dialogue: 0,0:03:47.65,0:03:48.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, we all know it. Dialogue: 0,0:03:48.77,0:03:51.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Can lost people say, "Jesus is Lord"? Dialogue: 0,0:03:51.47,0:03:54.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Certainly they can. Certainly \Nthey can mouth those words. Dialogue: 0,0:03:54.77,0:03:56.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, what do you think Paul's saying Dialogue: 0,0:03:56.61,0:03:58.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when he says, "I want you to understand, Dialogue: 0,0:03:58.71,0:04:02.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,no one speaking in the Spirit of God Dialogue: 0,0:04:02.48,0:04:05.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ever says, 'Jesus is accursed,' Dialogue: 0,0:04:05.09,0:04:07.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and no one can say 'Jesus is Lord,' Dialogue: 0,0:04:07.46,0:04:09.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,except in the Holy Spirit"? Dialogue: 0,0:04:09.51,0:04:12.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What is he saying? Dialogue: 0,0:04:12.53,0:04:16.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Anybody ever thought \Nabout that verse before? Dialogue: 0,0:04:16.33,0:04:21.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,James: You did an APT on it a year ago. Dialogue: 0,0:04:21.17,0:04:22.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Tim: Anybody remember? Dialogue: 0,0:04:22.79,0:04:23.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(from the room) Dialogue: 0,0:04:23.84,0:04:25.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have a reference to 1 John 4:3. Dialogue: 0,0:04:25.95,0:04:27.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Tim: Which says? Dialogue: 0,0:04:27.29,0:04:29.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"And every spirit that \Ndoes not confess Jesus Dialogue: 0,0:04:29.63,0:04:34.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is not from God." Dialogue: 0,0:04:34.33,0:04:36.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Tim: Okay. Dialogue: 0,0:04:36.21,0:04:38.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What do you think Paul's saying? Dialogue: 0,0:04:38.06,0:04:41.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We could say yes, maybe \Nthere's some connection, Dialogue: 0,0:04:41.94,0:04:44.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I don't know that \Nthat text from 1 John Dialogue: 0,0:04:44.90,0:04:48.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,really helps us decipher. Dialogue: 0,0:04:48.03,0:04:51.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What does Paul mean? Dialogue: 0,0:04:51.20,0:04:54.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is it safe to say, Dialogue: 0,0:04:54.07,0:04:56.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Paul would be the first one to recognize Dialogue: 0,0:04:56.47,0:04:59.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that an unbeliever can lip those words? Dialogue: 0,0:04:59.70,0:05:01.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Of course, he recognizes that. Dialogue: 0,0:05:01.70,0:05:04.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He's not saying that there's Dialogue: 0,0:05:04.14,0:05:06.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a linguistic impossibility for somebody Dialogue: 0,0:05:06.82,0:05:08.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to vocalize those three words Dialogue: 0,0:05:08.88,0:05:11.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if they're lost and have \Nnot the Spirit of God. Dialogue: 0,0:05:11.62,0:05:13.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So what's he saying? Dialogue: 0,0:05:13.38,0:05:16.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It seems like if you \Njust start reading here, Dialogue: 0,0:05:16.67,0:05:18.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,1 Corinthians 12:1, Dialogue: 0,0:05:18.26,0:05:22.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Now concerning \Nspiritual gifts, brothers..." Dialogue: 0,0:05:22.15,0:05:24.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, that right there - Dialogue: 0,0:05:24.01,0:05:26.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,obviously they were asking \Nhim about spiritual gifts. Dialogue: 0,0:05:26.64,0:05:29.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And probably what they were saying Dialogue: 0,0:05:29.38,0:05:33.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is there were questions coming. Dialogue: 0,0:05:33.79,0:05:34.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They had questions. Dialogue: 0,0:05:34.82,0:05:36.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There were people prophesying. Dialogue: 0,0:05:36.33,0:05:38.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There were people speaking in tongues. Dialogue: 0,0:05:38.51,0:05:39.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There were things happening. Dialogue: 0,0:05:39.88,0:05:44.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There were expressions of \Nthese gifts coming forth. Dialogue: 0,0:05:44.72,0:05:53.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And people perhaps appearing to be Dialogue: 0,0:05:53.34,0:05:57.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,manifesting a gift of the Spirit, Dialogue: 0,0:05:57.51,0:06:04.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and as that gift is being supposedly Dialogue: 0,0:06:04.19,0:06:08.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,manifested in their meetings, Dialogue: 0,0:06:08.01,0:06:10.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,something is happening Dialogue: 0,0:06:10.12,0:06:13.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where Christ is not being exalted. Dialogue: 0,0:06:13.06,0:06:17.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I heard John MacArthur say Dialogue: 0,0:06:17.10,0:06:21.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that there were meetings taking place Dialogue: 0,0:06:21.88,0:06:25.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where somebody was speaking in tongues. Dialogue: 0,0:06:25.21,0:06:29.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And there was - I forget if it was Dialogue: 0,0:06:29.45,0:06:32.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a Greek or a Hebrew scholar, Dialogue: 0,0:06:32.58,0:06:36.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who was attending the meeting. Dialogue: 0,0:06:36.96,0:06:39.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And they were speaking in tongues, Dialogue: 0,0:06:39.95,0:06:43.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they actually were \Nspeaking in a tongue. Dialogue: 0,0:06:43.10,0:06:46.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And if there was any \Ninterpretation happening, Dialogue: 0,0:06:46.04,0:06:47.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't remember, Dialogue: 0,0:06:47.96,0:06:50.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it was being lauded Dialogue: 0,0:06:50.66,0:06:55.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as this was some great manifestation Dialogue: 0,0:06:55.20,0:06:58.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the gifts of the Spirit, Dialogue: 0,0:06:58.34,0:07:02.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and this man sitting there Dialogue: 0,0:07:02.22,0:07:04.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,understood exactly what was being said, Dialogue: 0,0:07:04.79,0:07:07.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and Christ was being cursed. Dialogue: 0,0:07:07.44,0:07:12.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, I think what you want \Nto tie together here is this: Dialogue: 0,0:07:12.06,0:07:15.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Spiritual gifts is what's on the table. Dialogue: 0,0:07:15.68,0:07:19.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so, the idea here is Dialogue: 0,0:07:19.09,0:07:23.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that if somebody is prophesying Dialogue: 0,0:07:23.31,0:07:25.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or if somebody is speaking in tongues Dialogue: 0,0:07:25.23,0:07:26.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or if somebody's interpreting, Dialogue: 0,0:07:26.69,0:07:31.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if a genuine manifestation \Nof a spiritual gift Dialogue: 0,0:07:31.16,0:07:32.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is taking place, Dialogue: 0,0:07:32.36,0:07:36.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,obviously, Jesus said Himself, Dialogue: 0,0:07:36.44,0:07:38.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Spirit is coming to glorify Him. Dialogue: 0,0:07:38.68,0:07:40.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And if you've got things happening Dialogue: 0,0:07:40.34,0:07:43.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that are not glorifying to Him... Dialogue: 0,0:07:43.96,0:07:47.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We could take this in \Nmany different offshoots. Dialogue: 0,0:07:47.83,0:07:50.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Peden - do you have any memory Dialogue: 0,0:07:50.60,0:07:58.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the Peden guy who was a Covenanter? Dialogue: 0,0:07:58.62,0:08:06.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Anyway, I remember Don Currin telling me Dialogue: 0,0:08:06.32,0:08:07.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,an incident there, Dialogue: 0,0:08:07.68,0:08:10.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I've voiced it before to you guys Dialogue: 0,0:08:10.52,0:08:15.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that there was a revival taking place. Dialogue: 0,0:08:15.56,0:08:17.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And there was a man in the meetings. Dialogue: 0,0:08:17.59,0:08:19.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he was calling out people's sins. Dialogue: 0,0:08:19.84,0:08:21.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he was right on. Dialogue: 0,0:08:21.70,0:08:23.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And this would be kind of unsettling Dialogue: 0,0:08:23.74,0:08:25.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you were in a meeting and it's like: Dialogue: 0,0:08:25.90,0:08:31.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ryan, you've been A, B, and C. Dialogue: 0,0:08:31.73,0:08:33.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And you, X, Y, Z. Dialogue: 0,0:08:33.95,0:08:35.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it's right. Dialogue: 0,0:08:35.28,0:08:39.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it's like I was there \Nwhen you were alone. Dialogue: 0,0:08:39.90,0:08:43.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That was the kind of thing \Nhappening in this meeting. Dialogue: 0,0:08:43.15,0:08:44.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But there was one man Dialogue: 0,0:08:44.63,0:08:46.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he was especially discerning. Dialogue: 0,0:08:46.84,0:08:50.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Everybody thought this is \Nreally a work of God. Dialogue: 0,0:08:50.66,0:08:52.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is incredible. Dialogue: 0,0:08:52.62,0:08:54.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We've got a prophet in our midst. Dialogue: 0,0:08:54.26,0:08:55.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He knows our sins. Dialogue: 0,0:08:55.68,0:08:57.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But there was a man in the meeting Dialogue: 0,0:08:57.30,0:08:59.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that was really troubled. Dialogue: 0,0:08:59.00,0:09:00.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he recognized, Dialogue: 0,0:09:00.27,0:09:04.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Jesus Christ is not being glorified. Dialogue: 0,0:09:04.86,0:09:09.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The sinners are having \Ntheir sin called out, Dialogue: 0,0:09:09.46,0:09:11.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but they're not being shown Christ Dialogue: 0,0:09:11.93,0:09:13.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as a great Savior. Dialogue: 0,0:09:13.30,0:09:15.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The people are going out beat up Dialogue: 0,0:09:15.89,0:09:19.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and trampled on and left hopeless. Dialogue: 0,0:09:19.37,0:09:22.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And they had meetings night after night. Dialogue: 0,0:09:22.52,0:09:28.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he finally, in the \Nmiddle of the meeting, Dialogue: 0,0:09:28.26,0:09:30.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he stood up and he called the man out, Dialogue: 0,0:09:30.78,0:09:33.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he said, "I command you \Nin the name of Jesus Christ Dialogue: 0,0:09:33.95,0:09:36.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to tell us by what spirit you speak." Dialogue: 0,0:09:36.86,0:09:39.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And suddenly demonic voices \Ncame out of the guy Dialogue: 0,0:09:39.69,0:09:43.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they said, "oh, \Nwe've been discovered!" Dialogue: 0,0:09:43.05,0:09:45.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(incomplete thought) Dialogue: 0,0:09:45.06,0:09:46.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Paul is not just dealing with whether Dialogue: 0,0:09:46.95,0:09:49.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a person has the capacity, Dialogue: 0,0:09:49.02,0:09:51.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but what's happening in \Nthe midst of these folks Dialogue: 0,0:09:51.69,0:09:55.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is all manner of spiritual \Ngifts being manifested, Dialogue: 0,0:09:55.100,0:09:59.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I think, obviously, \Nthe Corinthian letters - Dialogue: 0,0:09:59.55,0:10:02.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the first Corinthian letter especially - Dialogue: 0,0:10:02.04,0:10:05.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's numerous responses to the things Dialogue: 0,0:10:05.66,0:10:07.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that they had written to him about. Dialogue: 0,0:10:07.70,0:10:10.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I think this again, he's responding. Dialogue: 0,0:10:10.92,0:10:13.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They had something happen undoubtedly. Dialogue: 0,0:10:13.38,0:10:14.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They had many things happen. Dialogue: 0,0:10:14.88,0:10:17.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They were having many \Nsupernatural things happening. Dialogue: 0,0:10:17.47,0:10:21.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I think what you really \Nwant to nail down here is this: Dialogue: 0,0:10:21.33,0:10:23.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just because something is supernatural Dialogue: 0,0:10:23.18,0:10:25.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,doesn't mean that it's \Na work of the Spirit. Dialogue: 0,0:10:25.54,0:10:27.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's really what he's \Nhitting on right here. Dialogue: 0,0:10:27.79,0:10:31.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that if you have anything \Nhappening supernaturally Dialogue: 0,0:10:31.06,0:10:33.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that is not bringing attention Dialogue: 0,0:10:33.51,0:10:35.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and glory to Jesus Christ, Dialogue: 0,0:10:35.87,0:10:37.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you can identify that. Dialogue: 0,0:10:37.82,0:10:39.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It may be supernatural, Dialogue: 0,0:10:39.95,0:10:42.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it's very likely demonic. Dialogue: 0,0:10:42.98,0:10:44.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, it is demonic. Dialogue: 0,0:10:44.14,0:10:46.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's the test. Dialogue: 0,0:10:46.84,0:10:49.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You go to the text in 1 John. Dialogue: 0,0:10:49.60,0:10:54.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,1 John 4:1 - we are to test the spirits. Dialogue: 0,0:10:54.43,0:10:56.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How do you test? Dialogue: 0,0:10:56.13,0:10:58.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, you test it whether it's biblical. Dialogue: 0,0:10:58.03,0:11:07.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You test it if it glorifies \Nthe Lord Jesus Christ. Dialogue: 0,0:11:07.47,0:11:11.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't think it's probably \Ndifficult to figure out Dialogue: 0,0:11:11.46,0:11:15.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if somebody said, \N"Jesus Christ is accursed," Dialogue: 0,0:11:15.21,0:11:18.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to simply figure out Dialogue: 0,0:11:18.35,0:11:21.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that, wow, that's of the devil. Dialogue: 0,0:11:21.18,0:11:24.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I think what happens is Dialogue: 0,0:11:24.86,0:11:27.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,things do happen that indirectly Dialogue: 0,0:11:27.91,0:11:30.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,send that message; Dialogue: 0,0:11:30.24,0:11:34.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,indirectly tear Christ down. Dialogue: 0,0:11:34.24,0:11:36.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, you get Jehovah's Witnesses Dialogue: 0,0:11:36.52,0:11:37.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,show up at your door, Dialogue: 0,0:11:37.83,0:11:39.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can you kind of figure out Dialogue: 0,0:11:39.29,0:11:42.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that the Spirit of God is not there? Dialogue: 0,0:11:42.10,0:11:43.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,See, they won't come out and say, Dialogue: 0,0:11:43.68,0:11:45.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Jesus Christ is accursed," Dialogue: 0,0:11:45.16,0:11:46.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but what they're going to do Dialogue: 0,0:11:46.53,0:11:48.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is they're going to belittle Him. Dialogue: 0,0:11:48.19,0:11:49.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They're going to tear Him down. Dialogue: 0,0:11:49.71,0:11:51.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They're going to make Him out Dialogue: 0,0:11:51.76,0:11:55.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to be much smaller than He is. Dialogue: 0,0:11:55.80,0:11:59.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But anyway, Dialogue: 0,0:11:59.60,0:12:05.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I didn't even prepare \Nanything for that text. Dialogue: 0,0:12:05.11,0:12:07.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I wasn't thinking that \Nwe would even go there, Dialogue: 0,0:12:07.56,0:12:09.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but because we read it Dialogue: 0,0:12:09.74,0:12:12.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it is a verse that \Nbrings up questions, Dialogue: 0,0:12:12.39,0:12:14.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm not exactly certain Dialogue: 0,0:12:14.38,0:12:21.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how this brother is \Ninterpreting this text. Dialogue: 0,0:12:21.30,0:12:23.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm not sure exactly \Nwhat he's doing with it, Dialogue: 0,0:12:23.57,0:12:28.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but the next one is clear. Dialogue: 0,0:12:28.16,0:12:31.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The next one he goes \Nto is 2 Corinthians 1:22 Dialogue: 0,0:12:31.69,0:12:33.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which I think is a very good text, Dialogue: 0,0:12:33.40,0:12:36.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and of course, there's \Na parallel statement Dialogue: 0,0:12:36.52,0:12:38.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in Ephesians 1. Dialogue: 0,0:12:38.11,0:12:40.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We dealt with that if you've \Nbeen coming to Grace Dialogue: 0,0:12:40.50,0:12:44.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about the sealing of the Spirit. Dialogue: 0,0:12:44.22,0:12:47.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Probably the most emphatic verse Dialogue: 0,0:12:47.06,0:12:48.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I would say is found in Romans 8, Dialogue: 0,0:12:48.91,0:12:50.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we'll look at that in a second. Dialogue: 0,0:12:50.71,0:12:52.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But these are the two he mentions: Dialogue: 0,0:12:52.67,0:12:55.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,2 Corinthians 1:22, Dialogue: 0,0:12:55.19,0:12:58.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"...Who has also put His seal on us Dialogue: 0,0:12:58.66,0:13:03.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and given us His Spirit in our hearts Dialogue: 0,0:13:03.50,0:13:06.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as a guarantee." Dialogue: 0,0:13:06.56,0:13:16.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, I'm aware of \Ndifferent interpretations Dialogue: 0,0:13:16.64,0:13:19.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about even what the \Nsealing of the Spirit is. Dialogue: 0,0:13:19.71,0:13:21.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And there are good men, Dialogue: 0,0:13:21.62,0:13:24.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,some who say it happens \Nright when we're converted Dialogue: 0,0:13:24.11,0:13:27.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and some who believe it's experiential Dialogue: 0,0:13:27.64,0:13:30.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and happens later. Dialogue: 0,0:13:30.31,0:13:32.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, maybe these two verses Dialogue: 0,0:13:32.16,0:13:36.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,wouldn't even necessarily be the best ones Dialogue: 0,0:13:36.92,0:13:38.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to even try to prove Dialogue: 0,0:13:38.79,0:13:41.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what he felt convicted about. Dialogue: 0,0:13:41.47,0:13:43.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think his conviction is right. Dialogue: 0,0:13:43.21,0:13:45.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What he's saying is, Dialogue: 0,0:13:45.63,0:13:47.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"I thought we received the Holy Spirit Dialogue: 0,0:13:47.56,0:13:50.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the same moment we believe in Christ." Dialogue: 0,0:13:50.31,0:13:53.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, can anybody think of verses Dialogue: 0,0:13:53.27,0:14:00.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that seem to really \Nestablish that reality? Dialogue: 0,0:14:00.82,0:14:01.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ezekiel. Dialogue: 0,0:14:01.92,0:14:04.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah, the promises of the New Covenant. Dialogue: 0,0:14:04.46,0:14:05.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Somebody read that. Dialogue: 0,0:14:05.71,0:14:07.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Brother, you can look that up if you want. Dialogue: 0,0:14:07.76,0:14:14.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ezekiel 36. Dialogue: 0,0:14:14.80,0:14:17.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What is it we find there? Dialogue: 0,0:14:17.06,0:14:19.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He says, "I will sprinkle \Nclean water on you Dialogue: 0,0:14:19.53,0:14:21.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you shall be clean\Nfrom all your uncleanliness, Dialogue: 0,0:14:21.99,0:14:24.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and from all your \Nidols I will cleanse you. Dialogue: 0,0:14:24.27,0:14:26.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I will give you a new heart Dialogue: 0,0:14:26.49,0:14:28.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(and then simultaneously it seems) Dialogue: 0,0:14:28.18,0:14:30.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and a new spirit I will put within you, Dialogue: 0,0:14:30.91,0:14:33.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I will remove the heart \Nof stone from your flesh Dialogue: 0,0:14:33.39,0:14:35.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and give you a heart of flesh, Dialogue: 0,0:14:35.22,0:14:37.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I will put my Spirit in you." Dialogue: 0,0:14:37.04,0:14:39.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Tim: It's a whole package there. Dialogue: 0,0:14:39.05,0:14:40.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it's happening. Dialogue: 0,0:14:40.08,0:14:42.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When do you get a new heart?\NWhen are you born again? Dialogue: 0,0:14:42.41,0:14:43.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When are you regenerated? Dialogue: 0,0:14:43.77,0:14:45.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,At the time you receive this new Spirit? Dialogue: 0,0:14:45.92,0:14:47.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You're given a new spirit Dialogue: 0,0:14:47.16,0:14:49.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and He puts His Spirit within you. Dialogue: 0,0:14:49.53,0:14:51.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That all happens. Ezekiel. Dialogue: 0,0:14:51.44,0:14:52.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can find those promises Dialogue: 0,0:14:52.81,0:14:54.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,concerning the New Covenant Dialogue: 0,0:14:54.16,0:14:56.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in other parts of Ezekiel as well. Dialogue: 0,0:14:56.97,0:14:58.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ezekiel 12. Dialogue: 0,0:14:58.80,0:15:04.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But let's look at one \Nof the clearest passages. Dialogue: 0,0:15:04.63,0:15:07.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Romans 8:9. Dialogue: 0,0:15:07.02,0:15:09.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Whoever gets there first, Dialogue: 0,0:15:09.54,0:15:12.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,why don't you read that? Dialogue: 0,0:15:12.30,0:15:13.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's no mistaking it. Dialogue: 0,0:15:13.76,0:15:15.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Somebody could come along and say, Dialogue: 0,0:15:15.38,0:15:17.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,well, I think sealing of \Nthe Spirit is something Dialogue: 0,0:15:17.65,0:15:19.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that happens later after you believe. Dialogue: 0,0:15:19.45,0:15:21.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Somebody could say, Dialogue: 0,0:15:21.19,0:15:24.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,well, I don't think the \Nthing about "Jesus is Lord" Dialogue: 0,0:15:24.53,0:15:27.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and "Jesus is accursed" - \NI'm not even sure Dialogue: 0,0:15:27.03,0:15:29.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that that has to do \Nwith receiving the Spirit Dialogue: 0,0:15:29.71,0:15:30.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when we get saved. Dialogue: 0,0:15:30.88,0:15:32.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Maybe somebody would even say Dialogue: 0,0:15:32.38,0:15:36.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ezekiel 36 - it sounds like \Nit's all a package there, Dialogue: 0,0:15:36.19,0:15:39.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but maybe it doesn't necessarily \Nall happen simultaneously. Dialogue: 0,0:15:39.84,0:15:41.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Somebody could perhaps argue that. Dialogue: 0,0:15:41.53,0:15:46.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But you can't argue this. Dialogue: 0,0:15:46.50,0:15:47.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Romans 8:9. Dialogue: 0,0:15:47.61,0:15:54.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Somebody have it there \Nand want to read it? Dialogue: 0,0:15:54.37,0:15:56.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"You, however, are not in the flesh, Dialogue: 0,0:15:56.42,0:15:57.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but in the Spirit, Dialogue: 0,0:15:57.90,0:16:01.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if in fact the Spirit of \NGod dwells in you. Dialogue: 0,0:16:01.32,0:16:03.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Anyone who does not \Nhave the Spirit of Christ Dialogue: 0,0:16:03.57,0:16:05.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,does not belong to Him." Dialogue: 0,0:16:05.10,0:16:06.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Tim: There it is. Dialogue: 0,0:16:06.34,0:16:09.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you don't have the Spirit of Christ, Dialogue: 0,0:16:09.46,0:16:11.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you don't belong to Christ. Dialogue: 0,0:16:11.42,0:16:13.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Period. Dialogue: 0,0:16:13.56,0:16:15.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It couldn't be clearer. Dialogue: 0,0:16:15.43,0:16:20.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,True Christians possess the Spirit of God. Dialogue: 0,0:16:20.73,0:16:26.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, if you don't possess the Spirit, Dialogue: 0,0:16:26.31,0:16:28.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you don't belong to Him. Dialogue: 0,0:16:28.12,0:16:30.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is clear. Dialogue: 0,0:16:30.33,0:16:33.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Paul is making it undeniably clear. Dialogue: 0,0:16:33.36,0:16:37.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Okay, so our brother here says, Dialogue: 0,0:16:37.62,0:16:39.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"...That we can believe in Christ Dialogue: 0,0:16:39.69,0:16:41.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,only by the Holy Spirit, Dialogue: 0,0:16:41.33,0:16:42.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and God gives the Holy Spirit Dialogue: 0,0:16:42.91,0:16:44.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as a seal, a guarantee..." Dialogue: 0,0:16:44.97,0:16:47.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But we looked at the text that he quoted Dialogue: 0,0:16:47.97,0:16:49.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in 2 Corinthians 1:22. Dialogue: 0,0:16:49.87,0:16:53.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I would just say this. Dialogue: 0,0:16:53.35,0:16:56.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can look at this kind of indirectly. Dialogue: 0,0:16:56.98,0:16:59.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For one, I would say, Dialogue: 0,0:16:59.39,0:17:03.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ezekiel 36 is indeed a package. Dialogue: 0,0:17:03.63,0:17:09.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think that does \Naffirm this truth as well. Dialogue: 0,0:17:09.58,0:17:12.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But let's think about John 3 - Dialogue: 0,0:17:12.83,0:17:15.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,very well known. Dialogue: 0,0:17:15.52,0:17:17.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Most of us are familiar with it. Dialogue: 0,0:17:17.65,0:17:20.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What is said about being born again Dialogue: 0,0:17:20.98,0:17:24.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that would lead us to believe Dialogue: 0,0:17:24.08,0:17:27.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that to even be born again, Dialogue: 0,0:17:27.12,0:17:29.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you would need to have the Spirit? Dialogue: 0,0:17:29.76,0:17:34.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Or the Spirit's influences at least? Dialogue: 0,0:17:34.34,0:17:35.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(from the room) Dialogue: 0,0:17:35.28,0:17:37.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"No one can see the Kingdom of God Dialogue: 0,0:17:37.20,0:17:39.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,unless he's born of the \Nspirit and the water?" Dialogue: 0,0:17:39.44,0:17:42.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Tim: Well, right, you've got \Nto be born of the Spirit. Dialogue: 0,0:17:42.10,0:17:43.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You're not going to see the Kingdom Dialogue: 0,0:17:43.79,0:17:45.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,unless you're born of the Spirit. Dialogue: 0,0:17:45.43,0:17:47.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now does that necessarily say Dialogue: 0,0:17:47.13,0:17:49.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,specifically that we have the Spirit? Dialogue: 0,0:17:49.27,0:17:51.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, obviously it means that the Spirit Dialogue: 0,0:17:51.67,0:17:55.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is actively working upon you Dialogue: 0,0:17:55.22,0:17:58.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in your life changing you, Dialogue: 0,0:17:58.51,0:18:06.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,being born again. Dialogue: 0,0:18:06.26,0:18:09.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's the same idea of being born of God. Dialogue: 0,0:18:09.61,0:18:11.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Those who are born of God Dialogue: 0,0:18:11.68,0:18:13.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are bringing forth - Dialogue: 0,0:18:13.09,0:18:14.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what does 1 John say? Dialogue: 0,0:18:14.36,0:18:16.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Can anybody think what 1 John says Dialogue: 0,0:18:16.34,0:18:20.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is true of everybody who's born of God? Dialogue: 0,0:18:20.76,0:18:23.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(unintelligible) Dialogue: 0,0:18:23.55,0:18:25.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They love. Dialogue: 0,0:18:25.91,0:18:29.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Where does love come from? Dialogue: 0,0:18:29.16,0:18:31.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's the fruit of what? Dialogue: 0,0:18:31.31,0:18:35.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The fruit of the Spirit. Dialogue: 0,0:18:35.27,0:18:37.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Jesus also said, Dialogue: 0,0:18:37.21,0:18:42.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"That which is born of the flesh is flesh; Dialogue: 0,0:18:42.98,0:18:47.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that which is born \Nof the Spirit is spirit." Dialogue: 0,0:18:47.71,0:18:51.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You see, the reality is this, Dialogue: 0,0:18:51.45,0:18:53.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we go from being dead \Nin our trespasses and sins Dialogue: 0,0:18:53.79,0:18:56.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to being alive in Christ. Dialogue: 0,0:18:56.32,0:19:00.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That Spirit gives us the life. Dialogue: 0,0:19:00.10,0:19:01.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(from the room) Dialogue: 0,0:19:01.04,0:19:04.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Titus 3. Dialogue: 0,0:19:04.05,0:19:06.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"But He saved us..." Dialogue: 0,0:19:06.01,0:19:07.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then it goes on to say, Dialogue: 0,0:19:07.43,0:19:08.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"by the washing of regeneration Dialogue: 0,0:19:08.96,0:19:10.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and renewal of the Holy Spirit Dialogue: 0,0:19:10.70,0:19:13.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whom He poured out on us richly Dialogue: 0,0:19:13.35,0:19:15.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,through Jesus Christ our Savior Dialogue: 0,0:19:15.37,0:19:18.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in order that we might \Nbe justified by His grace." Dialogue: 0,0:19:18.23,0:19:22.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(unintelligible) Dialogue: 0,0:19:22.03,0:19:25.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Tim: So, it's clear. Dialogue: 0,0:19:25.51,0:19:28.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You're not born again, unless \Nyou're born of the Spirit. Dialogue: 0,0:19:28.62,0:19:31.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"That which is born \Nof the Spirit is spirit." Dialogue: 0,0:19:31.36,0:19:32.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you belong to Christ, Dialogue: 0,0:19:32.98,0:19:34.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you possess the Spirit of Christ. Dialogue: 0,0:19:34.92,0:19:36.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you don't have the Spirit of Christ, Dialogue: 0,0:19:36.87,0:19:38.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you don't belong to Christ. Dialogue: 0,0:19:38.57,0:19:41.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have the text that James read Dialogue: 0,0:19:41.43,0:19:43.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,out of Ezekiel 36 Dialogue: 0,0:19:43.27,0:19:46.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that He is going to \Nput His Spirit within us. Dialogue: 0,0:19:46.77,0:19:49.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A new heart - He takes the old heart out. Dialogue: 0,0:19:49.77,0:19:52.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Spirit - it's a package deal. Dialogue: 0,0:19:52.58,0:19:54.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We hear the text in Titus. Dialogue: 0,0:19:54.40,0:19:56.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We see this - the \Nrenewal of the Holy Spirit. Dialogue: 0,0:19:56.82,0:20:00.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's definitely put in a package Dialogue: 0,0:20:00.49,0:20:03.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with justification - pretty amazing. Dialogue: 0,0:20:03.92,0:20:07.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We're justified by faith. Dialogue: 0,0:20:07.31,0:20:11.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But we know that those who are dead, Dialogue: 0,0:20:11.39,0:20:13.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,those who are dead can't respond to God. Dialogue: 0,0:20:13.39,0:20:14.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You've got to be made alive. Dialogue: 0,0:20:14.84,0:20:17.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"He made us alive together with Christ." Dialogue: 0,0:20:17.59,0:20:20.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the very power comes to us Dialogue: 0,0:20:20.98,0:20:24.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by way of His Spirit - \NHis life-giving Spirit. Dialogue: 0,0:20:24.57,0:20:27.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We're born of the Spirit. Dialogue: 0,0:20:27.19,0:20:33.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Okay, this is what this - Dialogue: 0,0:20:33.52,0:20:35.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm not sure if he's a young man, Dialogue: 0,0:20:35.48,0:20:37.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'll just call him this brother, Dialogue: 0,0:20:37.97,0:20:42.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Midhun P. Matthew. Dialogue: 0,0:20:42.19,0:20:43.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is what he believes. Dialogue: 0,0:20:43.96,0:20:46.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is what he was telling his friends. Dialogue: 0,0:20:46.89,0:20:51.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"But then," he says, "one \Nday, I came to this verse." Dialogue: 0,0:20:51.15,0:20:52.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now let's all turn to it. Dialogue: 0,0:20:52.49,0:21:00.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Acts 8:14. Dialogue: 0,0:21:00.33,0:21:01.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And before we even read it, Dialogue: 0,0:21:01.75,0:21:03.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm going to tell you what he says. Dialogue: 0,0:21:03.77,0:21:07.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He says, "this verse entirely contradicts Dialogue: 0,0:21:07.58,0:21:09.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,my belief of the Holy Spirit. Dialogue: 0,0:21:09.89,0:21:11.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I want to know the truth. Dialogue: 0,0:21:11.08,0:21:13.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't want to spread the \Nwrong thing about our Lord. Dialogue: 0,0:21:13.69,0:21:18.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So could you please help me to \Nunderstand about these things?" Dialogue: 0,0:21:18.93,0:21:20.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm wanting to deal with this Dialogue: 0,0:21:20.82,0:21:24.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because I think it's a fantastic question. Dialogue: 0,0:21:24.08,0:21:28.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And listen, any of you that \Ntake your Bible seriously Dialogue: 0,0:21:28.10,0:21:30.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and read Scripture and have read Dialogue: 0,0:21:30.54,0:21:33.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all the way through your \NBible maybe several times, Dialogue: 0,0:21:33.65,0:21:37.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you haven't had questions \Nabout the Spirit of God Dialogue: 0,0:21:37.53,0:21:39.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and His operations, then I'm thinking, Dialogue: 0,0:21:39.48,0:21:41.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you're not reading your Bible Dialogue: 0,0:21:41.81,0:21:45.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because you're going to come across Dialogue: 0,0:21:45.54,0:21:46.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the same kind of things Dialogue: 0,0:21:46.100,0:21:50.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that this brother has come across. Dialogue: 0,0:21:50.56,0:21:58.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And what he feels is that \NActs 8 entirely contradicts Dialogue: 0,0:21:58.86,0:22:01.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the truth that we just set forth. Dialogue: 0,0:22:01.73,0:22:09.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So Acts 8. Anybody have it there? Dialogue: 0,0:22:09.30,0:22:10.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Verse 14. Dialogue: 0,0:22:10.26,0:22:12.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Now when the apostles in Jerusalem heard Dialogue: 0,0:22:12.48,0:22:14.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that Samaria had received the Word of God, Dialogue: 0,0:22:14.89,0:22:18.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they sent to them Peter and John." Dialogue: 0,0:22:18.24,0:22:19.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Tim: Keep going. Dialogue: 0,0:22:19.30,0:22:21.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"...who came down and prayed for them Dialogue: 0,0:22:21.34,0:22:23.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that they might receive the Holy Spirit, Dialogue: 0,0:22:23.35,0:22:26.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for He had not yet fallen on any of them, Dialogue: 0,0:22:26.12,0:22:28.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but they had only been baptized Dialogue: 0,0:22:28.38,0:22:30.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the name of the Lord Jesus. Dialogue: 0,0:22:30.41,0:22:32.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then they laid their hands on them Dialogue: 0,0:22:32.17,0:22:33.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they received the Holy Spirit." Dialogue: 0,0:22:33.99,0:22:39.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Tim: Okay, so you come \Nover to the book of Acts, Dialogue: 0,0:22:39.37,0:22:42.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and here's what you really need to see. Dialogue: 0,0:22:42.02,0:22:47.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is obviously what \Nthis brother is seeing. Dialogue: 0,0:22:47.89,0:22:51.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These folks if you go back before this - Dialogue: 0,0:22:51.26,0:22:52.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't have my Bible open there, Dialogue: 0,0:22:52.96,0:22:54.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but if you've got your Bible open there, Dialogue: 0,0:22:54.93,0:22:56.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you see - what happened? Dialogue: 0,0:22:56.71,0:22:58.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Phillip came. Dialogue: 0,0:22:58.15,0:23:00.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Phillip preached the Gospel. Dialogue: 0,0:23:00.34,0:23:03.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And what happened? Dialogue: 0,0:23:03.58,0:23:05.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They believed. Dialogue: 0,0:23:05.80,0:23:08.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They believed and then what happened? Dialogue: 0,0:23:08.74,0:23:10.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Peter and John are \Ndispatched and they go down, Dialogue: 0,0:23:10.100,0:23:12.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and of course, that whole thing Dialogue: 0,0:23:12.52,0:23:14.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with Simon the magician happens, Dialogue: 0,0:23:14.39,0:23:17.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but what else happens? Dialogue: 0,0:23:17.99,0:23:20.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This happens: Dialogue: 0,0:23:20.71,0:23:24.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"They heard that Samaria had \Nreceived the Word of God." Dialogue: 0,0:23:24.28,0:23:25.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So here's the thing, Dialogue: 0,0:23:25.61,0:23:26.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they believed, Dialogue: 0,0:23:26.92,0:23:30.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they received the Word of God, Dialogue: 0,0:23:30.15,0:23:34.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"they had been baptized." Dialogue: 0,0:23:34.34,0:23:35.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So Phillip came. Dialogue: 0,0:23:35.94,0:23:37.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Phillip is doing his ministry. Dialogue: 0,0:23:37.67,0:23:40.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They hear the Gospel. Dialogue: 0,0:23:40.06,0:23:42.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They see the miracles that he was doing. Dialogue: 0,0:23:42.40,0:23:45.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They believe on him and are baptized. Dialogue: 0,0:23:45.43,0:23:48.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But now what happens? Dialogue: 0,0:23:48.12,0:23:52.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then, Peter and John come down, Dialogue: 0,0:23:52.26,0:23:55.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and "the Holy Spirit had not \Nyet fallen on any of them. Dialogue: 0,0:23:55.06,0:23:57.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They'd only been baptized in \Nthe name of the Lord Jesus. Dialogue: 0,0:23:57.90,0:23:59.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then they laid their hands on them Dialogue: 0,0:23:59.63,0:24:02.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they received the Holy Spirit." Dialogue: 0,0:24:02.15,0:24:05.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, basically, what this \Nbrother is feeling Dialogue: 0,0:24:05.66,0:24:07.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is wow, this totally contradicts. Dialogue: 0,0:24:07.88,0:24:09.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How can this be? Dialogue: 0,0:24:09.14,0:24:10.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How can you have true believers - Dialogue: 0,0:24:10.100,0:24:12.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,maybe what? Dialogue: 0,0:24:12.73,0:24:15.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Maybe they weren't true believers? Dialogue: 0,0:24:15.67,0:24:17.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Or, they are true believers Dialogue: 0,0:24:17.91,0:24:19.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and this is really contradictory? Dialogue: 0,0:24:19.97,0:24:22.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, doesn't Paul say in Romans 8:9, Dialogue: 0,0:24:22.24,0:24:23.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,didn't we see it? Dialogue: 0,0:24:23.38,0:24:26.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you don't have the Spirit, \Nyou don't belong to Christ. Dialogue: 0,0:24:26.44,0:24:29.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So did these people not belong to Christ Dialogue: 0,0:24:29.07,0:24:31.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,until the Spirit fell on them? Dialogue: 0,0:24:31.79,0:24:35.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because see, this is where he's wrestling. Dialogue: 0,0:24:35.08,0:24:36.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In fact, if you read the book of Acts, Dialogue: 0,0:24:36.93,0:24:38.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there's various things that happen. Dialogue: 0,0:24:38.67,0:24:41.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We might just go over to Acts 19. Dialogue: 0,0:24:41.55,0:24:43.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Something very interesting happens there. Dialogue: 0,0:24:43.70,0:24:46.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You've got these - probably men Dialogue: 0,0:24:46.98,0:24:51.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who were affected by Apollos. Dialogue: 0,0:24:51.54,0:24:54.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,See, Apollos had been at Ephesus Dialogue: 0,0:24:54.76,0:24:57.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he only knew the baptism of John. Dialogue: 0,0:24:57.66,0:24:59.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And what happens is Dialogue: 0,0:24:59.47,0:25:02.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,once he's set right by \NPriscilla and Aquila, Dialogue: 0,0:25:02.63,0:25:04.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then you have Paul go over to Ephesus, Dialogue: 0,0:25:04.74,0:25:06.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I think what he finds Dialogue: 0,0:25:06.72,0:25:09.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are probably some disciples of Apollos, Dialogue: 0,0:25:09.59,0:25:13.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who all they knew was the baptism of John. Dialogue: 0,0:25:13.05,0:25:28.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And when you get these guys - Acts 19:1, Dialogue: 0,0:25:28.08,0:25:30.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"It happened while Apollos was at Corinth. Dialogue: 0,0:25:30.24,0:25:32.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Paul passed through the inland country Dialogue: 0,0:25:32.27,0:25:33.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and came to Ephesus. Dialogue: 0,0:25:33.41,0:25:36.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There he found some disciples." Dialogue: 0,0:25:36.72,0:25:39.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Maybe we back up to the previous chapter, Dialogue: 0,0:25:39.94,0:25:43.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,verse 24, "a Jew named Apollos, Dialogue: 0,0:25:43.07,0:25:45.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a native of Alexandria, came to Ephesus." Dialogue: 0,0:25:45.40,0:25:48.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, you see, Apollos was at Ephesus. Dialogue: 0,0:25:48.01,0:25:50.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Eloquent man. Competent in the Scriptures. Dialogue: 0,0:25:50.71,0:25:52.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He's a mighty preacher. Dialogue: 0,0:25:52.43,0:25:54.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"He'd been instructed in \Nthe way of the Lord, Dialogue: 0,0:25:54.88,0:25:57.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and being fervent in spirit, \Nhe spoke and taught accurately Dialogue: 0,0:25:57.86,0:25:59.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the things concerning Jesus, Dialogue: 0,0:25:59.30,0:26:04.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,though he knew only the baptism of John." Dialogue: 0,0:26:04.09,0:26:05.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So you've got this man who knows only Dialogue: 0,0:26:05.96,0:26:07.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the baptism of John. Dialogue: 0,0:26:07.27,0:26:10.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why the folks at Ephesus \Ndidn't set him right, Dialogue: 0,0:26:10.81,0:26:12.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't know. Dialogue: 0,0:26:12.57,0:26:14.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Maybe he was such a powerful preacher, Dialogue: 0,0:26:14.51,0:26:17.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they thought he must \Nknow what he's talking about. Dialogue: 0,0:26:17.02,0:26:19.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Who knows why they wouldn't have? Dialogue: 0,0:26:19.14,0:26:21.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"He began to speak \Nboldly in the synagogue, Dialogue: 0,0:26:21.32,0:26:23.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but when Priscilla and Aquila heard him, Dialogue: 0,0:26:23.26,0:26:25.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they took him and explained to him Dialogue: 0,0:26:25.11,0:26:28.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the way of God more accurately. Dialogue: 0,0:26:28.97,0:26:30.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When he wished to cross to Achaia, Dialogue: 0,0:26:30.95,0:26:32.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the brothers encouraged him Dialogue: 0,0:26:32.34,0:26:34.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and wrote to the disciples to welcome him. Dialogue: 0,0:26:34.45,0:26:36.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When he arrived, he greatly helped Dialogue: 0,0:26:36.36,0:26:38.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,those who through grace had believed, Dialogue: 0,0:26:38.88,0:26:41.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for he powerfully \Nrefuted the Jews in public Dialogue: 0,0:26:41.40,0:26:42.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,showing by the Scriptures Dialogue: 0,0:26:42.74,0:26:45.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that the Christ was Jesus." Dialogue: 0,0:26:45.98,0:26:49.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So what happens is he's at Ephesus. Dialogue: 0,0:26:49.63,0:26:52.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He knows just the baptism of John. Dialogue: 0,0:26:52.36,0:26:54.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He's set right by Priscilla and Aquila. Dialogue: 0,0:26:54.67,0:26:56.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then he goes over to Achaia. Dialogue: 0,0:26:56.58,0:26:58.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He leaves Ephesus. Dialogue: 0,0:26:58.62,0:27:01.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Paul in turn comes to Ephesus Dialogue: 0,0:27:01.30,0:27:03.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and here's what Paul finds. Dialogue: 0,0:27:03.22,0:27:05.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"It happened that while \NApollos was at Corinth..." Dialogue: 0,0:27:05.69,0:27:07.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, he goes over to Achaia. Dialogue: 0,0:27:07.08,0:27:09.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Paul passed through the inland country. Dialogue: 0,0:27:09.03,0:27:10.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He comes to Ephesus. Dialogue: 0,0:27:10.68,0:27:12.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And there he finds some disciples. Dialogue: 0,0:27:12.46,0:27:14.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"He said to them, Dialogue: 0,0:27:14.21,0:27:17.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'did you receive the Holy \NSpirit when you believed?'" Dialogue: 0,0:27:17.32,0:27:19.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, what's he assuming? Dialogue: 0,0:27:19.75,0:27:24.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They are believers. Dialogue: 0,0:27:24.02,0:27:26.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He's asking them. Dialogue: 0,0:27:26.12,0:27:29.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,See, he's not questioning \Nwhether they're believers. Dialogue: 0,0:27:29.33,0:27:31.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He's not saying, well, \NI'm calling into question Dialogue: 0,0:27:31.68,0:27:33.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whether you're truly Christians or not. Dialogue: 0,0:27:33.59,0:27:35.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He just simply asks them this: Dialogue: 0,0:27:35.04,0:27:36.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Since you became Christians - Dialogue: 0,0:27:36.55,0:27:40.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,since you've become believers - Dialogue: 0,0:27:40.45,0:27:43.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,did you receive the Holy Spirit? Dialogue: 0,0:27:43.84,0:27:47.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And they said no. Dialogue: 0,0:27:47.48,0:27:50.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Okay, if you don't have the Spirit, Dialogue: 0,0:27:50.31,0:27:52.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you what? Dialogue: 0,0:27:52.60,0:27:54.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You don't belong to Christ. Dialogue: 0,0:27:54.47,0:27:59.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So do we have a contradiction here? Dialogue: 0,0:27:59.77,0:28:01.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"They said, 'No. Dialogue: 0,0:28:01.27,0:28:04.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have not even heard \Nthat there is a Holy Spirit.'" Dialogue: 0,0:28:04.07,0:28:07.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, I think what happened \Nin Paul's mind is this: Dialogue: 0,0:28:07.91,0:28:10.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Jesus told His disciples to baptize Dialogue: 0,0:28:10.72,0:28:12.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the name of the Father, Dialogue: 0,0:28:12.63,0:28:18.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the Son, and the Holy Spirit. Dialogue: 0,0:28:18.84,0:28:22.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I think he was wondering Dialogue: 0,0:28:22.42,0:28:25.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how could they not know \Nthat there's a Spirit Dialogue: 0,0:28:25.48,0:28:29.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if they're being baptized? Dialogue: 0,0:28:29.57,0:28:31.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm just conjecturing. Dialogue: 0,0:28:31.18,0:28:34.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But he asks then, Dialogue: 0,0:28:34.25,0:28:38.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Into what then were you baptized?" Dialogue: 0,0:28:38.65,0:28:40.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They said into John's baptism. Dialogue: 0,0:28:40.46,0:28:44.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What's interesting - this \Nis the only time in Scripture Dialogue: 0,0:28:44.58,0:28:47.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you find somebody re-baptized. Dialogue: 0,0:28:47.44,0:28:49.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Or, where it seems like Dialogue: 0,0:28:49.52,0:28:53.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,their initial baptism is not regarded Dialogue: 0,0:28:53.44,0:28:57.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they need to be baptized for real. Dialogue: 0,0:28:57.78,0:29:03.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that's what happens here. Dialogue: 0,0:29:03.36,0:29:06.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Paul said, "'John baptized with \Nthe baptism of repentance Dialogue: 0,0:29:06.34,0:29:08.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,telling the people to believe in the One Dialogue: 0,0:29:08.33,0:29:10.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who was to come \Nafter him - that is Jesus.' Dialogue: 0,0:29:10.95,0:29:12.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,On hearing this, they were baptized Dialogue: 0,0:29:12.70,0:29:14.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the name of the Lord Jesus, Dialogue: 0,0:29:14.24,0:29:17.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and when Paul had laid his hands on them, Dialogue: 0,0:29:17.37,0:29:19.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Holy Spirit came on them Dialogue: 0,0:29:19.04,0:29:21.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they began speaking in tongues Dialogue: 0,0:29:21.62,0:29:24.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and prophesying." Dialogue: 0,0:29:24.31,0:29:25.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So what do we do? Dialogue: 0,0:29:25.78,0:29:28.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What do we do with this?\NWhat do we say to this? Dialogue: 0,0:29:28.20,0:29:29.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How do we interpret this? Dialogue: 0,0:29:29.69,0:29:31.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is this brother right? Dialogue: 0,0:29:31.04,0:29:38.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is he saying, wait, \NScripture is contradictory? Dialogue: 0,0:29:38.92,0:29:50.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, here's the way we \Nwant to think about this. Dialogue: 0,0:29:50.80,0:29:53.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(incomplete thought) Dialogue: 0,0:29:53.17,0:29:54.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have clear truth. Dialogue: 0,0:29:54.88,0:29:57.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Some of these accounts are not clear. Dialogue: 0,0:29:57.92,0:30:00.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We don't exactly know what's happening. Dialogue: 0,0:30:00.02,0:30:01.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Some are extremely clear. Dialogue: 0,0:30:01.84,0:30:04.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Let me ask you this, Dialogue: 0,0:30:04.04,0:30:07.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can you be a Christian \Nwithout the Holy Spirit? Dialogue: 0,0:30:07.92,0:30:10.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Whatever happens here, Dialogue: 0,0:30:10.23,0:30:14.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Romans 8:9 is crystal clear. Dialogue: 0,0:30:14.13,0:30:16.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you don't have the Spirit, Dialogue: 0,0:30:16.22,0:30:20.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you don't belong to Christ. Dialogue: 0,0:30:20.95,0:30:23.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,John 3 - crystal clear. Dialogue: 0,0:30:23.18,0:30:26.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you have not been born of the Spirit, Dialogue: 0,0:30:26.06,0:30:28.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you will not see the Kingdom. Dialogue: 0,0:30:28.34,0:30:33.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That means you are \Nnot a genuine Christian. Dialogue: 0,0:30:33.14,0:30:35.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Crystal clear. Dialogue: 0,0:30:35.18,0:30:39.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, you either have to say Dialogue: 0,0:30:39.43,0:30:42.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the people who believed - Dialogue: 0,0:30:42.09,0:30:46.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it wasn't saving faith yet. Dialogue: 0,0:30:46.38,0:30:50.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But, when the Spirit came, it became real. Dialogue: 0,0:30:50.65,0:30:52.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You either have to say that, Dialogue: 0,0:30:52.17,0:30:56.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or you have to say this: Dialogue: 0,0:30:56.93,0:31:01.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They actually had the Spirit Dialogue: 0,0:31:01.28,0:31:04.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when they first believed. Dialogue: 0,0:31:04.83,0:31:08.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But what happens when \Nthe Spirit falls upon them Dialogue: 0,0:31:08.11,0:31:11.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is something different. Dialogue: 0,0:31:11.85,0:31:14.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I would say Dialogue: 0,0:31:14.21,0:31:16.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that when we look at the biblical evidence Dialogue: 0,0:31:16.79,0:31:19.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's the latter. Dialogue: 0,0:31:19.08,0:31:20.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That what we have here Dialogue: 0,0:31:20.96,0:31:24.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is Scripture is talking about Dialogue: 0,0:31:24.45,0:31:29.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,different manifestations of the Spirit. Dialogue: 0,0:31:29.04,0:31:30.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You say what do you mean? Dialogue: 0,0:31:30.73,0:31:41.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, for instance, look at Acts 10. Dialogue: 0,0:31:41.16,0:31:46.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is Cornelius in Caesarea. Dialogue: 0,0:31:46.52,0:31:47.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is the Gospel - Dialogue: 0,0:31:47.61,0:31:50.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's moving outward from Jerusalem. Dialogue: 0,0:31:50.30,0:31:55.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You have Gentiles being converted. Dialogue: 0,0:31:55.68,0:31:59.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And here we see. Dialogue: 0,0:31:59.75,0:32:06.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Look at about verse 47. Dialogue: 0,0:32:06.68,0:32:08.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Maybe 44. Dialogue: 0,0:32:08.39,0:32:10.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"While Peter was still \Nsaying these things..." Dialogue: 0,0:32:10.92,0:32:12.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he's preaching. Dialogue: 0,0:32:12.25,0:32:16.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"...The Holy Spirit fell on all \Nwho heard the Word. Dialogue: 0,0:32:16.19,0:32:19.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the believers from \Namong the circumcised Dialogue: 0,0:32:19.96,0:32:24.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(believing Jews) who had \Ncome with Peter were amazed Dialogue: 0,0:32:24.09,0:32:26.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because the gift of the Holy Spirit Dialogue: 0,0:32:26.55,0:32:29.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was poured out even on the Gentiles, Dialogue: 0,0:32:29.30,0:32:31.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for they were hearing \Nthem speaking in tongues Dialogue: 0,0:32:31.84,0:32:33.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and extolling God..." Dialogue: 0,0:32:33.18,0:32:37.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now listen very carefully \Nto what Peter says. Dialogue: 0,0:32:37.62,0:32:39.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Can anyone withhold water Dialogue: 0,0:32:39.28,0:32:40.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for baptizing these people Dialogue: 0,0:32:40.91,0:32:44.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who have received the Holy Spirit Dialogue: 0,0:32:44.41,0:32:50.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just as we have?" Dialogue: 0,0:32:50.14,0:32:52.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What's he talking about? Dialogue: 0,0:32:52.29,0:32:55.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What event is he speaking \Nabout right there? Dialogue: 0,0:32:55.89,0:32:58.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When did he receive the Spirit Dialogue: 0,0:32:58.53,0:33:01.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in this same fashion? Dialogue: 0,0:33:01.71,0:33:03.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The day of Pentecost. Dialogue: 0,0:33:03.87,0:33:09.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's what he's talking about. Dialogue: 0,0:33:09.37,0:33:13.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He says - listen - verse 46. Dialogue: 0,0:33:13.76,0:33:16.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"They were hearing them \Nspeaking in tongues Dialogue: 0,0:33:16.18,0:33:18.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and extolling God." Dialogue: 0,0:33:18.56,0:33:25.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When did Peter speak in tongues Dialogue: 0,0:33:25.42,0:33:28.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so that people heard \Nthe mighty works of God Dialogue: 0,0:33:28.42,0:33:32.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in their own language? Dialogue: 0,0:33:32.26,0:33:34.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Where? Dialogue: 0,0:33:34.61,0:33:39.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Acts chapter 2. Dialogue: 0,0:33:39.13,0:33:41.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The day of Pentecost.\NThat's where that happened. Dialogue: 0,0:33:41.98,0:33:47.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now let me ask you this, Dialogue: 0,0:33:47.26,0:33:49.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he's saying that on the day of Pentecost Dialogue: 0,0:33:49.91,0:33:51.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he received the Spirit Dialogue: 0,0:33:51.69,0:33:55.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just as those people there in Acts 10 Dialogue: 0,0:33:55.31,0:33:56.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,were receiving the Spirit. Dialogue: 0,0:33:56.79,0:33:58.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But let me ask you this: Dialogue: 0,0:33:58.66,0:34:03.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Were they already believers in Acts 2? Dialogue: 0,0:34:03.84,0:34:06.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And had they already received the Spirit? Dialogue: 0,0:34:06.61,0:34:09.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And had they already been baptized? Dialogue: 0,0:34:09.55,0:34:11.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Long before that day of Pentecost Dialogue: 0,0:34:11.70,0:34:13.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which he's referring to here? Dialogue: 0,0:34:13.19,0:34:14.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You see the point I'm making? Dialogue: 0,0:34:14.74,0:34:17.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He's saying, Dialogue: 0,0:34:17.40,0:34:21.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,why should we not baptize these people? Dialogue: 0,0:34:21.70,0:34:23.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But you see the point he's making - Dialogue: 0,0:34:23.59,0:34:25.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they have just received the Spirit Dialogue: 0,0:34:25.63,0:34:28.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the way we received the Spirit, Dialogue: 0,0:34:28.76,0:34:30.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but he's not talking about Dialogue: 0,0:34:30.93,0:34:33.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,receiving the Spirit Dialogue: 0,0:34:33.48,0:34:35.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the way that is necessary Dialogue: 0,0:34:35.96,0:34:37.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,simply to become a Christian. Dialogue: 0,0:34:37.95,0:34:39.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because if you go back to what Dialogue: 0,0:34:39.41,0:34:42.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he's talking about \Nhappened in his own life, Dialogue: 0,0:34:42.28,0:34:44.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they had been baptized and saved Dialogue: 0,0:34:44.49,0:34:45.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,way before that event. Dialogue: 0,0:34:45.85,0:34:47.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What had happened? Dialogue: 0,0:34:47.18,0:34:51.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Listen, Jesus says in John 14, 15, 16 - Dialogue: 0,0:34:51.44,0:34:53.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He's telling them about the Helper, Dialogue: 0,0:34:53.38,0:34:55.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about the Comforter who was to come. Dialogue: 0,0:34:55.46,0:34:57.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And He said then to them, Dialogue: 0,0:34:57.72,0:35:02.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"He is in you..." already, Dialogue: 0,0:35:02.44,0:35:04.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then He said this, Dialogue: 0,0:35:04.10,0:35:07.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"and He will be with you." Dialogue: 0,0:35:07.94,0:35:10.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now I think that's important to catch Dialogue: 0,0:35:10.40,0:35:14.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because I think what He's saying there Dialogue: 0,0:35:14.49,0:35:18.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is much according to this truth. Dialogue: 0,0:35:18.14,0:35:21.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In Luke 11, we are specifically told Dialogue: 0,0:35:21.32,0:35:22.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that if we're Christians, Dialogue: 0,0:35:22.53,0:35:25.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we should be praying to our Father Dialogue: 0,0:35:25.39,0:35:27.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that He give us the Holy Spirit. Dialogue: 0,0:35:27.98,0:35:30.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"How much more will our heavenly Father Dialogue: 0,0:35:30.35,0:35:34.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,give the Holy Spirit to them that ask." Dialogue: 0,0:35:34.16,0:35:36.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He's not speaking to the lost masses. Dialogue: 0,0:35:36.96,0:35:38.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He's speaking to His disciples Dialogue: 0,0:35:38.70,0:35:40.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who specifically asked Him, Dialogue: 0,0:35:40.44,0:35:42.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Lord, teach us to pray." Dialogue: 0,0:35:42.80,0:35:45.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And He said I'll teach you to pray. Dialogue: 0,0:35:45.50,0:35:46.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And He said one of the things Dialogue: 0,0:35:46.94,0:35:49.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you need to ask your \NFather for all the time Dialogue: 0,0:35:49.10,0:35:50.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is that He give you the Holy Spirit. Dialogue: 0,0:35:50.82,0:35:53.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now see, you could stop \Nright there and say, Dialogue: 0,0:35:53.77,0:35:57.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,why should a Christian \Npray for the Spirit? Dialogue: 0,0:35:57.06,0:35:58.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I'll tell you this, Dialogue: 0,0:35:58.42,0:36:01.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's because we receive the \NSpirit in more than one way. Dialogue: 0,0:36:01.64,0:36:06.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Spirit's operations are not simply: Dialogue: 0,0:36:06.29,0:36:09.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you receive Him the moment you're saved Dialogue: 0,0:36:09.53,0:36:11.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and He breathes life into you - Dialogue: 0,0:36:11.60,0:36:13.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there's much more. Dialogue: 0,0:36:13.12,0:36:15.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You see, when the Spirit of God fell Dialogue: 0,0:36:15.13,0:36:17.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on all those 120 in the upper room Dialogue: 0,0:36:17.89,0:36:19.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on the day of Pentecost, Dialogue: 0,0:36:19.93,0:36:22.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what happened? Dialogue: 0,0:36:22.03,0:36:24.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'll tell you what happened. Dialogue: 0,0:36:24.00,0:36:27.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"You will be My witnesses." Dialogue: 0,0:36:27.72,0:36:31.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Jerusalem and just moving outward. Dialogue: 0,0:36:31.33,0:36:33.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Judea, Samaria, Dialogue: 0,0:36:33.09,0:36:34.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the uttermost parts of the world. Dialogue: 0,0:36:34.89,0:36:36.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And He told them you go to Jerusalem Dialogue: 0,0:36:36.91,0:36:40.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you sit there until what happens? Dialogue: 0,0:36:40.92,0:36:44.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Clothed with power. Dialogue: 0,0:36:44.86,0:36:47.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You see, what this Spirit is - Dialogue: 0,0:36:47.08,0:36:49.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this Spirit is the missionary Spirit. Dialogue: 0,0:36:49.39,0:36:51.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When Jesus said, "Lo, I will be with you Dialogue: 0,0:36:51.39,0:36:52.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,until the end of the world. Dialogue: 0,0:36:52.74,0:36:54.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You go to all the nations;" Dialogue: 0,0:36:54.29,0:36:56.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what happened was, what you find Dialogue: 0,0:36:56.70,0:36:59.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the book of Acts repeatedly Dialogue: 0,0:36:59.43,0:37:01.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is the Spirit falls Dialogue: 0,0:37:01.34,0:37:04.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and people speak with power, Dialogue: 0,0:37:04.86,0:37:06.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with boldness, Dialogue: 0,0:37:06.04,0:37:08.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and with supernatural manifestation. Dialogue: 0,0:37:08.64,0:37:11.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Every single time. Dialogue: 0,0:37:11.94,0:37:13.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Look at it. Dialogue: 0,0:37:13.13,0:37:15.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You study carefully in the book of Acts Dialogue: 0,0:37:15.10,0:37:18.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where the Spirit is being \Nunleashed on the church Dialogue: 0,0:37:18.48,0:37:20.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they are being clothed with power. Dialogue: 0,0:37:20.38,0:37:23.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Every single time - speaking gifts Dialogue: 0,0:37:23.49,0:37:26.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and boldness in speaking \Nare given to the people Dialogue: 0,0:37:26.71,0:37:28.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,every single time. Dialogue: 0,0:37:28.34,0:37:33.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is different than \Nsimply having the Spirit - Dialogue: 0,0:37:33.78,0:37:34.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not that it's so simple, Dialogue: 0,0:37:34.95,0:37:40.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but than that initial Spirit of God Dialogue: 0,0:37:40.35,0:37:43.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,causing you to be born again. Dialogue: 0,0:37:43.68,0:37:46.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What you want to realize - Dialogue: 0,0:37:46.68,0:37:54.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,brethren, look at it. Look at Luke 11. Dialogue: 0,0:37:54.04,0:37:56.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because this doesn't only Dialogue: 0,0:37:56.95,0:37:58.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,help our brother explain Dialogue: 0,0:37:58.83,0:38:02.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how these things can be; Dialogue: 0,0:38:02.73,0:38:06.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how these Scriptures \Nactually work together. Dialogue: 0,0:38:06.44,0:38:10.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But what it does is it opens to us Dialogue: 0,0:38:10.06,0:38:16.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a glorious reality of ongoing Dialogue: 0,0:38:16.01,0:38:18.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,manifestations of the Spirit, Dialogue: 0,0:38:18.08,0:38:20.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,empowerings of the Spirit, Dialogue: 0,0:38:20.10,0:38:21.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,help of the Spirit, Dialogue: 0,0:38:21.96,0:38:25.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ongoing prayers asking \Nfor more of the Spirit. Dialogue: 0,0:38:25.92,0:38:29.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you look at Luke 11, Dialogue: 0,0:38:29.19,0:38:33.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and Luke especially, Dialogue: 0,0:38:33.62,0:38:36.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he among the Gospel writers - Dialogue: 0,0:38:36.41,0:38:40.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and by the way, he's the one that \Nwrote the book of Acts too, Dialogue: 0,0:38:40.13,0:38:43.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but he loves to speak \Nabout the Holy Spirit Dialogue: 0,0:38:43.32,0:38:48.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in a way that the other \NGospel writers don't do. Dialogue: 0,0:38:48.02,0:38:54.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But in Luke 11, prayer. Dialogue: 0,0:38:54.68,0:38:57.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Verse 1, "As Jesus was \Npraying in a certain place, Dialogue: 0,0:38:57.12,0:38:59.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when He finished, one of \NHis disciples said to Him, Dialogue: 0,0:38:59.77,0:39:01.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'Lord, teach us to pray.'" Dialogue: 0,0:39:01.86,0:39:03.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Of course, we have Luke's version Dialogue: 0,0:39:03.73,0:39:05.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the Lord's prayer. Dialogue: 0,0:39:05.93,0:39:07.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Verse 5, "And He said to them, Dialogue: 0,0:39:07.51,0:39:09.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'which of you who has a friend Dialogue: 0,0:39:09.00,0:39:11.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,will go to him at midnight and say to him, Dialogue: 0,0:39:11.07,0:39:12.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Friend, lend me three loaves, Dialogue: 0,0:39:12.55,0:39:14.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for a friend of mine \Nhas arrived on a journey Dialogue: 0,0:39:14.85,0:39:17.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I have nothing to set before him." Dialogue: 0,0:39:17.37,0:39:19.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He will answer from within, Dialogue: 0,0:39:19.19,0:39:21.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Do not bother me. The door is now shut. Dialogue: 0,0:39:21.16,0:39:22.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My children are with me in bed. Dialogue: 0,0:39:22.65,0:39:24.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I cannot get up and give you anything." Dialogue: 0,0:39:24.58,0:39:26.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I tell you, though he will not get up Dialogue: 0,0:39:26.34,0:39:28.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and give him anything \Nbecause he is his friend, Dialogue: 0,0:39:28.64,0:39:30.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yet because of his \Nimpudence (or persistence Dialogue: 0,0:39:30.75,0:39:33.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or importunity, the KJV says) Dialogue: 0,0:39:33.30,0:39:36.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he will rise and give \Nhim whatever he needs.'" Dialogue: 0,0:39:36.44,0:39:40.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This doesn't mean that \Nour Father is reluctant. Dialogue: 0,0:39:40.16,0:39:42.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But this does mean that \Nour Father loves importunity Dialogue: 0,0:39:42.71,0:39:45.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and persistence. Dialogue: 0,0:39:45.83,0:39:48.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is a vain repetition, brethren, Dialogue: 0,0:39:48.66,0:39:51.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but there is a repetition \Nthat is not vain. Dialogue: 0,0:39:51.55,0:39:53.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's a repetition that is importunity Dialogue: 0,0:39:53.53,0:39:55.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that says, "Lord, I'm \Nnot letting go of you..." Dialogue: 0,0:39:55.85,0:39:56.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's like Jacob. Dialogue: 0,0:39:56.80,0:39:59.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"I'm going to keep asking \NYou for the same thing Dialogue: 0,0:39:59.13,0:40:01.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I'm going to hold on to You\Nand You know what I want. Dialogue: 0,0:40:01.91,0:40:08.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm not going to get go of You\Nuntil I get what I've come for, Lord." Dialogue: 0,0:40:08.06,0:40:11.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"I tell you, ask and it \Nwill be given to you; Dialogue: 0,0:40:11.40,0:40:12.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,seek and you will find, Dialogue: 0,0:40:12.67,0:40:15.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,knock and it will be opened to you. Dialogue: 0,0:40:15.54,0:40:17.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For everyone who asks receives, Dialogue: 0,0:40:17.03,0:40:18.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the one who seeks finds, Dialogue: 0,0:40:18.56,0:40:20.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and to the one who knocks,\Nit will be opened." Dialogue: 0,0:40:20.81,0:40:22.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now you remember, Dialogue: 0,0:40:22.86,0:40:26.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they specifically asked the Lord, Dialogue: 0,0:40:26.84,0:40:30.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"teach us to pray." Dialogue: 0,0:40:30.32,0:40:37.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These things where I \Nstarted reading till now, Dialogue: 0,0:40:37.01,0:40:39.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they give us principles regarding prayer. Dialogue: 0,0:40:39.77,0:40:44.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They give us generalities. Dialogue: 0,0:40:44.06,0:40:45.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He focuses in on some certain things Dialogue: 0,0:40:45.84,0:40:48.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in v. 2, 3, and 4. Dialogue: 0,0:40:48.50,0:40:51.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But He focuses in right here. Dialogue: 0,0:40:51.87,0:40:54.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"What father among you, Dialogue: 0,0:40:54.28,0:40:57.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if his son asks for a fish Dialogue: 0,0:40:57.15,0:40:59.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,will instead of a fish give him a serpent? Dialogue: 0,0:40:59.51,0:41:03.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Or if he asks for an egg, \Nwill give him a scorpion? Dialogue: 0,0:41:03.34,0:41:05.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Or if you then who are evil Dialogue: 0,0:41:05.38,0:41:07.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,know how to give \Ngood gifts to your children, Dialogue: 0,0:41:07.60,0:41:09.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how much more will the Heavenly Father Dialogue: 0,0:41:09.55,0:41:10.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,give the Holy Spirit?" Dialogue: 0,0:41:10.100,0:41:13.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, notice that - the Holy Spirit Dialogue: 0,0:41:13.01,0:41:15.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to those who ask Him. Dialogue: 0,0:41:15.42,0:41:17.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What I want you to recognize is this, Dialogue: 0,0:41:17.64,0:41:18.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when you go back to verse 1, Dialogue: 0,0:41:18.98,0:41:21.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this is not the lost masses saying, Dialogue: 0,0:41:21.10,0:41:22.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Lord, we're lost. We don't know Dialogue: 0,0:41:22.64,0:41:24.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how to interact with God. Dialogue: 0,0:41:24.03,0:41:25.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We don't know anything about Him. Dialogue: 0,0:41:25.72,0:41:27.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Teach us what we should pray." Dialogue: 0,0:41:27.37,0:41:29.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And He's saying, "Pray for the Holy Spirit Dialogue: 0,0:41:29.44,0:41:30.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because you don't have Him Dialogue: 0,0:41:30.92,0:41:32.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you need Him to be saved." Dialogue: 0,0:41:32.48,0:41:34.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's not what's happening here. Dialogue: 0,0:41:34.49,0:41:36.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What's happening here is the disciples Dialogue: 0,0:41:36.46,0:41:38.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who are already saved Dialogue: 0,0:41:38.30,0:41:40.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(incomplete thought) Dialogue: 0,0:41:40.26,0:41:42.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Notice verse 2. Dialogue: 0,0:41:42.63,0:41:44.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Father..." Dialogue: 0,0:41:44.32,0:41:48.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These are people who \Nknow God as their Father. Dialogue: 0,0:41:48.65,0:41:50.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These are the disciples. Dialogue: 0,0:41:50.82,0:41:53.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They're saying, "Lord, teach us to pray." Dialogue: 0,0:41:53.32,0:41:56.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And He says this to people \Nwho are already saved. Dialogue: 0,0:41:56.88,0:41:58.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Let Me teach you how to pray." Dialogue: 0,0:41:58.86,0:42:05.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Ask your Father for the Spirit." Dialogue: 0,0:42:05.89,0:42:09.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Somebody might say why? Dialogue: 0,0:42:09.50,0:42:13.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If I belong to Christ, I have the Spirit. Dialogue: 0,0:42:13.60,0:42:15.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why would I pray for the Spirit? Dialogue: 0,0:42:15.95,0:42:19.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because this is the very truth Dialogue: 0,0:42:19.99,0:42:23.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that I've been driving at. Dialogue: 0,0:42:23.21,0:42:25.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's more. Dialogue: 0,0:42:25.67,0:42:28.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just receiving the Spirit - Dialogue: 0,0:42:28.33,0:42:30.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I say it like that - Dialogue: 0,0:42:30.46,0:42:32.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's not a small thing. Dialogue: 0,0:42:32.86,0:42:36.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To receive the Spirit - to be born again, Dialogue: 0,0:42:36.27,0:42:39.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,listen, this is one of the Persons Dialogue: 0,0:42:39.100,0:42:44.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the Holy Trinity. Dialogue: 0,0:42:44.14,0:42:49.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When the Holy Spirit indwells you - Dialogue: 0,0:42:49.98,0:42:54.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what is it, 1 Corinthians 6? Dialogue: 0,0:42:54.51,0:42:57.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What's said there about the Spirit? Dialogue: 0,0:42:57.95,0:43:00.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's another text. Dialogue: 0,0:43:00.78,0:43:04.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Can you quote it, Kevin? Dialogue: 0,0:43:04.18,0:43:14.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(unintelligible) Dialogue: 0,0:43:14.86,0:43:22.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,3:16 - it's in 3 and 6. Dialogue: 0,0:43:22.16,0:43:26.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But 1 Corinthians 3:16. What does it say? Dialogue: 0,0:43:26.43,0:43:29.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Do you not know that \Nyou are God's temple? Dialogue: 0,0:43:29.27,0:43:31.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And God's Spirit dwells in you?" Dialogue: 0,0:43:31.37,0:43:33.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Tim: Yeah, God's Spirit dwells in you. Dialogue: 0,0:43:33.99,0:43:37.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you are His temple, \NGod's Spirit dwells in you. Dialogue: 0,0:43:37.52,0:43:38.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, that's a given. Dialogue: 0,0:43:38.90,0:43:41.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But the thing is, Dialogue: 0,0:43:41.79,0:43:43.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what are we going to say to Jesus? Dialogue: 0,0:43:43.100,0:43:48.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Are we going to say,\N"Jesus, I'm God's temple. Dialogue: 0,0:43:48.64,0:43:53.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Don't You know...?" \NThat's what Paul's saying. Dialogue: 0,0:43:53.15,0:43:58.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Jesus, don't You know that \Nif I'm the temple of God, Dialogue: 0,0:43:58.24,0:44:00.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Holy Spirit dwells in me? Dialogue: 0,0:44:00.11,0:44:01.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Don't You know that? Dialogue: 0,0:44:01.61,0:44:05.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why would You say ask for the Spirit? Dialogue: 0,0:44:05.55,0:44:08.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because there's so much - Dialogue: 0,0:44:08.19,0:44:11.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there's more to be had. Dialogue: 0,0:44:11.22,0:44:14.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's like one of the things that Jesus Dialogue: 0,0:44:14.02,0:44:16.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is teaching us Dialogue: 0,0:44:16.68,0:44:19.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is if you want to be specifically asking Dialogue: 0,0:44:19.45,0:44:21.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for something that I know Dialogue: 0,0:44:21.74,0:44:25.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is really important in your life - Dialogue: 0,0:44:25.13,0:44:27.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,something as you ask Dialogue: 0,0:44:27.50,0:44:28.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you keep going back - Dialogue: 0,0:44:28.84,0:44:30.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this importunity; Dialogue: 0,0:44:30.22,0:44:32.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I feel like He's teaching on importunity, Dialogue: 0,0:44:32.21,0:44:34.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and He says you want \Nto go back to the Father Dialogue: 0,0:44:34.29,0:44:36.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,again and again and again and again Dialogue: 0,0:44:36.17,0:44:37.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for something? Dialogue: 0,0:44:37.31,0:44:39.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'll tell you what to go to Him for. Dialogue: 0,0:44:39.05,0:44:40.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Go to Him for the Spirit. Dialogue: 0,0:44:40.68,0:44:43.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But why? I already have Him. Dialogue: 0,0:44:43.32,0:44:45.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For this reason: don't you realize? Dialogue: 0,0:44:45.70,0:44:49.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can do nothing apart \Nfrom the Spirit of Christ. Dialogue: 0,0:44:49.77,0:44:50.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We read that. Dialogue: 0,0:44:50.74,0:44:54.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"You can do nothing \Napart from Me," Jesus said. Dialogue: 0,0:44:54.45,0:44:56.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But it's through and by His Spirit Dialogue: 0,0:44:56.84,0:44:58.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we are empowered to do Dialogue: 0,0:44:58.92,0:45:00.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,anything that we do. Dialogue: 0,0:45:00.66,0:45:05.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Listen, the Spirit was \Ngiven to Jesus Himself Dialogue: 0,0:45:05.00,0:45:06.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,without measure. Dialogue: 0,0:45:06.56,0:45:08.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And Jesus did what He did Dialogue: 0,0:45:08.61,0:45:10.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,through the power of the Spirit. Dialogue: 0,0:45:10.18,0:45:13.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the more of the Spirit that we have, Dialogue: 0,0:45:13.18,0:45:15.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the more manifestations \Nof the Spirit we have, Dialogue: 0,0:45:15.83,0:45:17.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's what happened. Dialogue: 0,0:45:17.25,0:45:19.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's what happened in the book of Acts. Dialogue: 0,0:45:19.54,0:45:23.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,People had the Spirit \Nof God fall upon them Dialogue: 0,0:45:23.01,0:45:25.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and supernatural things happened. Dialogue: 0,0:45:25.89,0:45:27.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's what we need to have happen. Dialogue: 0,0:45:27.86,0:45:29.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We need to be praying for the Spirit. Dialogue: 0,0:45:29.91,0:45:32.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why? Even if you're already saved, Dialogue: 0,0:45:32.05,0:45:33.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you need to be praying for the Spirit. Dialogue: 0,0:45:33.89,0:45:37.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why? There are more \Nmanifestations to be had. Dialogue: 0,0:45:37.01,0:45:39.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Spirit of God falls on people Dialogue: 0,0:45:39.10,0:45:41.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who are already saved. Dialogue: 0,0:45:41.55,0:45:42.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You say why? Dialogue: 0,0:45:42.74,0:45:43.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Power. Dialogue: 0,0:45:43.60,0:45:45.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's what He told the disciples. Dialogue: 0,0:45:45.34,0:45:47.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You wait for power. Dialogue: 0,0:45:47.66,0:45:49.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's what the coming \Nof the Spirit brought. Dialogue: 0,0:45:49.93,0:45:52.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Spirit empowers the church, Dialogue: 0,0:45:52.39,0:45:56.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,especially in evangelistic cause. Dialogue: 0,0:45:56.22,0:45:58.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To take the Gospel forth to the nations; Dialogue: 0,0:45:58.80,0:46:00.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to be witness; Dialogue: 0,0:46:00.47,0:46:03.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to have the Gospel truly be Dialogue: 0,0:46:03.50,0:46:05.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,something more than a dead letter. Dialogue: 0,0:46:05.21,0:46:07.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What do you think makes the difference Dialogue: 0,0:46:07.28,0:46:08.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when somebody speaks the Gospel Dialogue: 0,0:46:08.80,0:46:10.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the place is shaken? Dialogue: 0,0:46:10.45,0:46:12.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What were we hearing about just recently? Dialogue: 0,0:46:12.90,0:46:14.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was just hearing recently about Dialogue: 0,0:46:14.64,0:46:16.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,somebody was preaching the Gospel, Dialogue: 0,0:46:16.28,0:46:19.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just a very simple preacher, Dialogue: 0,0:46:19.01,0:46:21.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he was just saying the simplest truths Dialogue: 0,0:46:21.32,0:46:23.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and God just broke loose. Dialogue: 0,0:46:23.75,0:46:27.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(unintelligible) Dialogue: 0,0:46:27.88,0:46:29.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's what it was. Dialogue: 0,0:46:29.29,0:46:32.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah, it was Mack, I think, at Pearl Dialogue: 0,0:46:32.16,0:46:35.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,talking about the simplicity \Nof Keith McCloud, Dialogue: 0,0:46:35.70,0:46:37.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how he was just the simplest man. Dialogue: 0,0:46:37.88,0:46:40.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,His messages were very simple. Dialogue: 0,0:46:40.16,0:46:42.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He was just so plain, Dialogue: 0,0:46:42.17,0:46:46.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but when he spoke, power came. Dialogue: 0,0:46:46.45,0:46:47.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How do you explain that? Dialogue: 0,0:46:47.89,0:46:49.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No great gift. Dialogue: 0,0:46:49.99,0:46:53.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's just when he spoke, heaven let loose. Dialogue: 0,0:46:53.93,0:46:55.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How do you explain it? Right here. Dialogue: 0,0:46:55.72,0:46:58.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's how you explain it. Dialogue: 0,0:46:58.67,0:47:00.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can have people with the greatest Dialogue: 0,0:47:00.54,0:47:01.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,oratorical gifts. Dialogue: 0,0:47:01.86,0:47:08.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can have the most gifted individuals Dialogue: 0,0:47:08.03,0:47:10.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and nothing will happen Dialogue: 0,0:47:10.10,0:47:12.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because raw talent isn't what makes Dialogue: 0,0:47:12.39,0:47:14.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Kingdom of Christ move. Dialogue: 0,0:47:14.70,0:47:18.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Spirit makes it move. Dialogue: 0,0:47:18.04,0:47:20.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And what you actually find Dialogue: 0,0:47:20.92,0:47:22.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the book of Acts Dialogue: 0,0:47:22.16,0:47:25.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are repeated outpourings Dialogue: 0,0:47:25.07,0:47:26.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the Spirit of God. Dialogue: 0,0:47:26.76,0:47:28.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's just a reality. Dialogue: 0,0:47:28.27,0:47:30.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that Spirit is being \Npoured out on people - Dialogue: 0,0:47:30.67,0:47:33.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sometimes people who \Nhad already had the Spirit Dialogue: 0,0:47:33.15,0:47:36.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,poured out on them \Nin an earlier chapter. Dialogue: 0,0:47:36.25,0:47:38.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You say what's that all about? Dialogue: 0,0:47:38.46,0:47:40.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, what does it mean to pray Dialogue: 0,0:47:40.10,0:47:42.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for the Holy Spirit if \Nyou already have Him? Dialogue: 0,0:47:42.26,0:47:44.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Obviously it means you're praying Dialogue: 0,0:47:44.53,0:47:46.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for greater manifestations, Dialogue: 0,0:47:46.57,0:47:51.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,re-visitations, greater demonstrations, Dialogue: 0,0:47:51.62,0:47:54.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,greater power. Dialogue: 0,0:47:54.30,0:47:58.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Being clothed - don't you \Nlove that? Clothed. Dialogue: 0,0:47:58.31,0:47:59.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's like putting a jacket on. Dialogue: 0,0:47:59.98,0:48:04.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Can you imagine some \Nglowing jacket of light Dialogue: 0,0:48:04.18,0:48:06.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that you wrap yourself with? Dialogue: 0,0:48:06.22,0:48:07.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is the idea. Dialogue: 0,0:48:07.82,0:48:11.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Being clothed, being covered with power. Dialogue: 0,0:48:11.71,0:48:13.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's what the church needs. Dialogue: 0,0:48:13.31,0:48:14.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We're dead in the water without it. Dialogue: 0,0:48:14.99,0:48:16.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(From the room) Hey brother, Dialogue: 0,0:48:16.45,0:48:18.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was remembering in Acts 4 Dialogue: 0,0:48:18.62,0:48:20.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when Peter's before the Council Dialogue: 0,0:48:20.95,0:48:22.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it's interesting how Luke Dialogue: 0,0:48:22.39,0:48:24.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,uses "power" and "filled" Dialogue: 0,0:48:24.48,0:48:26.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in kind of the same verses, Dialogue: 0,0:48:26.28,0:48:29.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but says, "And when they had set them Dialogue: 0,0:48:29.07,0:48:33.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the midst they enquired by what power Dialogue: 0,0:48:33.31,0:48:35.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or by what name did you do this? Dialogue: 0,0:48:35.51,0:48:37.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then Peter, filled \Nwith the Holy Spirit..." Dialogue: 0,0:48:37.76,0:48:39.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he goes on. Dialogue: 0,0:48:39.89,0:48:41.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Tim: Filled. He was filled there. Dialogue: 0,0:48:41.95,0:48:44.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But he had alreadly been filled in Acts 2. Dialogue: 0,0:48:44.19,0:48:45.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He had already been saved. Dialogue: 0,0:48:45.62,0:48:48.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean if you go back to John 17, Dialogue: 0,0:48:48.33,0:48:50.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Jesus is saying, Dialogue: 0,0:48:50.44,0:48:53.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"they have kept Your Word." Dialogue: 0,0:48:53.08,0:48:56.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, nobody but true \NChristians keep His Word. Dialogue: 0,0:48:56.45,0:48:58.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He had already said to them Dialogue: 0,0:48:58.10,0:48:59.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the chapters before that Dialogue: 0,0:48:59.83,0:49:06.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that the Spirit is in you. Dialogue: 0,0:49:06.24,0:49:08.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He breathes on them. Dialogue: 0,0:49:08.19,0:49:09.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Receive the Holy Spirit." Dialogue: 0,0:49:09.97,0:49:13.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You have all sorts of things that happen. Dialogue: 0,0:49:13.88,0:49:16.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't have them all \Nfigured out, but I know this: Dialogue: 0,0:49:16.38,0:49:18.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's more to be had of the Spirit. Dialogue: 0,0:49:18.21,0:49:20.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We should be asking for \Nthe Spirit all the time. Dialogue: 0,0:49:20.58,0:49:25.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And when the Spirit comes, things happen. Dialogue: 0,0:49:25.59,0:49:26.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I know this, Dialogue: 0,0:49:26.48,0:49:29.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you can't be a Christian \Nwithout the Spirit of God. Dialogue: 0,0:49:29.94,0:49:31.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But even if you're a Christian, Dialogue: 0,0:49:31.95,0:49:34.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you should be asking \Nfor the Spirit all the time Dialogue: 0,0:49:34.36,0:49:36.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because what the Spirit brings - Dialogue: 0,0:49:36.40,0:49:38.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,power to proclaim the Gospel, Dialogue: 0,0:49:38.98,0:49:42.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,transformation in your \Nlife - Christlikeness, Dialogue: 0,0:49:42.15,0:49:43.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the fruit of the Spirit, Dialogue: 0,0:49:43.38,0:49:45.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the gifts of the Spirit. Dialogue: 0,0:49:45.14,0:49:47.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We need these things. Dialogue: 0,0:49:47.10,0:49:49.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We need them desperately.