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Dialogue: 0,0:00:02.04,0:00:05.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Bushwick, Brooklyn]
Dialogue: 0,0:00:08.74,0:00:13.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Photographic things are about controlling\Nreally tiny amounts of light.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:13.64,0:00:15.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[New York Close Up]
Dialogue: 0,0:00:17.58,0:00:18.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A few years ago,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:18.82,0:00:22.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a friend was doing me a favor looking for\Nsomething in the darkroom,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:22.47,0:00:23.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I asked her to open some boxes
Dialogue: 0,0:00:23.84,0:00:28.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and one of the boxes was a roll of unexposed\Npaper.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:31.04,0:00:32.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And she says,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:32.24,0:00:35.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Oh there's nothing in here but this peach-colored\Nmural print."
Dialogue: 0,0:00:35.68,0:00:36.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Mariah Robertson, Artist]
Dialogue: 0,0:00:36.72,0:00:38.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I'm like, "It’s not a print! No!"
Dialogue: 0,0:00:39.52,0:00:43.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Suddenly all the keys on the piano being\Nlike, "No!"
Dialogue: 0,0:00:45.18,0:00:47.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,["Mariah Robertson's Chemical Reactions"]
Dialogue: 0,0:00:48.92,0:00:49.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[4 Years Ago]
Dialogue: 0,0:00:54.64,0:00:57.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I started fiddling around with that paper\Nthat was "blown".
Dialogue: 0,0:00:57.20,0:00:59.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Either this paper was gonna go in the trash
Dialogue: 0,0:00:59.54,0:01:01.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or I was going to play with it.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:01.38,0:01:03.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,At the end of each workday
Dialogue: 0,0:01:03.25,0:01:06.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I would just sort of douse it with leftover\Nchemicals.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:08.62,0:01:12.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's always a bit of that, like, chemical\Nmess at the edge of prints
Dialogue: 0,0:01:12.72,0:01:14.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when you're working in a darkroom.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:15.22,0:01:17.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's just normally considered a flaw
Dialogue: 0,0:01:17.41,0:01:19.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or something that you crop off.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:20.02,0:01:25.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I always enjoy trying to make something out\Nof the unwanted thing
Dialogue: 0,0:01:25.32,0:01:28.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and go deeper into the disaster.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:32.48,0:01:36.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[MATTHEW DIPPLE] You..are you speaking...are\Nyou speaking to me through a mask?
Dialogue: 0,0:01:36.66,0:01:37.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ROBERTSON] I am!
Dialogue: 0,0:01:37.43,0:01:38.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[DIPPLE] Okay.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:38.22,0:01:39.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah, I just called her.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:39.40,0:01:42.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She said she can’t pick up the phone,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:42.02,0:01:43.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[48 Hours Before the Opening]
Dialogue: 0,0:01:43.48,0:01:45.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but she's gonna be done at 3:30.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:45.61,0:01:47.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Things are a little bit delayed today.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:47.95,0:01:50.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's maybe slower that it would have otherwise\Nbeen.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:50.24,0:01:51.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Matthew Dipple, Gallerist]
Dialogue: 0,0:01:52.96,0:01:54.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ROBERTSON] When you're young, there's nothing\Nto stop you
Dialogue: 0,0:01:54.98,0:01:57.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from always working up to the last minute.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:57.94,0:02:01.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The mental locomotive is really pumping.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:01.34,0:02:03.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Scattered ideas that were all over,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:03.23,0:02:07.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they're suddenly, like, crystallized and form\Nnew things.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:08.59,0:02:10.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The language for describing these
Dialogue: 0,0:02:10.70,0:02:15.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,either comes from photography or from painting.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:15.82,0:02:19.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But there are no optics involved in making\Nthem.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:19.33,0:02:21.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's no brushing on top of things.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:21.81,0:02:27.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They're just a series of chemical reactions\Non this one flat piece of paper.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:27.38,0:02:29.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Paper was wet and then I sprayed it
Dialogue: 0,0:02:29.13,0:02:32.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so all these little droplets, like, hit that\Nspray
Dialogue: 0,0:02:32.03,0:02:34.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then just slid down.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:36.20,0:02:37.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Developer is like black
Dialogue: 0,0:02:37.92,0:02:40.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and fixer is like white,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:40.53,0:02:43.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and when it's just one of them you can...
Dialogue: 0,0:02:43.31,0:02:44.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know what’s going to happen.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:44.44,0:02:48.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But then as they mix with water in varying\Nstrengths of each one,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:48.42,0:02:50.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then things happen.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:50.52,0:02:52.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I can coax them to happen,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:52.74,0:02:55.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but they won't happen on my command.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:55.15,0:02:58.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Slowly there started to be some, like, purple\Nmagenta.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:58.61,0:03:01.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There started to be green when the developer\Nwas cold
Dialogue: 0,0:03:01.15,0:03:02.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or when the fixer and developer would mix
Dialogue: 0,0:03:02.91,0:03:04.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there would be some yellow and orange.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:04.85,0:03:07.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sometimes there are areas where I don't know\Nwhat's happening,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:07.49,0:03:11.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it makes this lavender-hippie-rainbow-unicorns\Ncolor.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:12.48,0:03:14.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's a fleeting mystery.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:15.64,0:03:17.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I go in there with a plan,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:17.94,0:03:23.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but the good ones are ones where they sort\Nof exceed the plan.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:26.56,0:03:29.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't even know, like, what's happening\Non 75% of it,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:29.48,0:03:33.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then it's done, and I wash it and I'm\Nlike, "That's amazing!"
Dialogue: 0,0:03:33.02,0:03:35.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Who did that!?" [LAUGHS]
Dialogue: 0,0:03:36.14,0:03:39.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[DIPPLE] It's about creating some sort of
Dialogue: 0,0:03:39.20,0:03:40.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,educated or controlled chaos
Dialogue: 0,0:03:40.56,0:03:43.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then seeing what can come from that
Dialogue: 0,0:03:43.27,0:03:46.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and whether it's beautiful or successful or\Nunsuccessful.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:46.96,0:03:49.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I think she’s very conscious it--
Dialogue: 0,0:03:49.61,0:03:51.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's not always going to be successful.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:52.26,0:03:53.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ROBERTSON] No!
Dialogue: 0,0:03:53.20,0:03:53.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's fine.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:53.82,0:03:55.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No, it's so...
Dialogue: 0,0:03:55.48,0:03:56.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Please don’t touch it!
Dialogue: 0,0:03:56.08,0:03:58.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's so...don’t...
Dialogue: 0,0:03:58.22,0:03:59.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No, no, it’s fine.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:59.38,0:04:01.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don’t know how to explain what to do!
Dialogue: 0,0:04:03.12,0:04:04.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[American Contemporary]
Dialogue: 0,0:04:04.46,0:04:06.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[The Bowery, Manhattan]
Dialogue: 0,0:04:08.66,0:04:09.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[LISA] Anything else?
Dialogue: 0,0:04:09.42,0:04:12.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ROBERTSON] I've got some wood that's all\Ntaped up together.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:24.88,0:04:25.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's so different....
Dialogue: 0,0:04:28.62,0:04:29.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[WOMAN] Matthew Dipple.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:29.46,0:04:30.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[DIPPLE] Hi, very nice to meet you.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:30.82,0:04:34.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She frames them using the frame as a kind\Nof a sculptural element.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:34.56,0:04:36.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ROBERTSON] I really wanted to work with metallic\Npaper.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:36.98,0:04:38.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But, by the time I got around to
Dialogue: 0,0:04:38.00,0:04:40.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,being able to do anything serious with it,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:40.38,0:04:41.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they stopped selling it in sheets,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:41.75,0:04:43.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it only came on rolls.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:43.97,0:04:46.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I didn't have a way to cut the paper down
Dialogue: 0,0:04:46.67,0:04:48.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to, like, 16 by 20,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:48.57,0:04:49.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the dark.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:49.22,0:04:50.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And they were coming out all...
Dialogue: 0,0:04:50.75,0:04:51.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all wacky.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:51.59,0:04:54.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it took me way too long to realize,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:54.10,0:04:56.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Oh, I could make this any size I want."
Dialogue: 0,0:04:56.86,0:05:00.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All of the edges became really special.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:17.54,0:05:19.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It seems like in your work
Dialogue: 0,0:05:19.28,0:05:21.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you can express some part of your personality
Dialogue: 0,0:05:21.85,0:05:25.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that you’re maybe not consciously aware\Nof all the time.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:26.16,0:05:28.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Like maybe your better self.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:28.21,0:05:30.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have heard similar things like,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:30.17,0:05:34.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"They feel free and joyful and positive and\Noptimistic."
Dialogue: 0,0:05:34.19,0:05:35.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I'm like, "Oh really?"
Dialogue: 0,0:05:35.71,0:05:37.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"'Cause I'm so anxious and like…" [LAUGHS]
Dialogue: 0,0:05:37.84,0:05:39.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"I mean, like, living,"
Dialogue: 0,0:05:39.05,0:05:39.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I’m like, "Whaaaa!,"
Dialogue: 0,0:05:39.96,0:05:44.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like, "That's good that that comes out like\Nthat."
Dialogue: 0,0:05:50.42,0:05:52.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I had been thinking I could do a long one,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:52.56,0:05:53.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then finally it clicked.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:53.52,0:05:55.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm like, “Oh just take the whole box,"
Dialogue: 0,0:05:55.56,0:05:57.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Like, as it is, don’t cut it.”
Dialogue: 0,0:05:57.70,0:06:00.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Like, it’s already been cut at the factory.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:00.57,0:06:03.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It’s already one real long rectangle.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:05.50,0:06:06.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It’s a bit of a technical challenge
Dialogue: 0,0:06:06.94,0:06:09.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to try and process it by hand.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:10.34,0:06:11.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Exposing it is pretty mellow.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:11.94,0:06:13.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But then once the chemistry comes out
Dialogue: 0,0:06:13.70,0:06:15.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you're just stuck doing it.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:15.47,0:06:18.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You've got to go until you process the whole\Nthing.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:19.94,0:06:21.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The long ones that have images,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:21.48,0:06:23.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they start at, like, 15 hours.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:24.90,0:06:28.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The next day is usually devoted to, like,\Nsleeping and crying.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:28.16,0:06:29.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Like... [LAUGHS]
Dialogue: 0,0:06:30.04,0:06:32.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then, I just didn't quite know how to install it.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:32.59,0:06:33.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's just so big.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:34.24,0:06:35.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What do you do with it now?
Dialogue: 0,0:06:38.34,0:06:41.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Matthew from the gallery called and said,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:41.84,0:06:46.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Mariah, would you be willing to sell one\Nof them long pieces to an institution?"
Dialogue: 0,0:06:47.28,0:06:48.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I'm like,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:48.90,0:06:49.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"What does that mean?"
Dialogue: 0,0:06:49.93,0:06:51.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Yes. Fine...get the...you know,"
Dialogue: 0,0:06:51.79,0:06:52.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"like, fine, sure, sure.” [LAUGHS]
Dialogue: 0,0:06:57.12,0:06:58.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Midtown, Manhattan]
Dialogue: 0,0:06:58.12,0:06:59.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He didn't say who it was.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:59.62,0:07:03.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If he had, I would have said, "Give them for\Nfree." [LAUGHS]
Dialogue: 0,0:07:03.54,0:07:06.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Give them three of them. Please."
Dialogue: 0,0:07:09.70,0:07:12.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I remember, as a kid, I'd get one-hour photos\Ndone
Dialogue: 0,0:07:12.37,0:07:15.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I would throw the negatives away because\Nthey were meaningless to me,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:15.20,0:07:16.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and my grandmother would keep those.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:17.78,0:07:18.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I had no idea.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:18.66,0:07:20.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm like, "What are these little like orange\Nthings? Yuck!"
Dialogue: 0,0:07:20.74,0:07:23.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"I want this 4 by 6 picture."
Dialogue: 0,0:07:23.88,0:07:26.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it feels so powerful when you have a photograph\Nin your hand,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:26.51,0:07:28.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like, this will last forever.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:29.68,0:07:32.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have this piece of time in my hand.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:32.59,0:07:34.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have control over it.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:36.92,0:07:39.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's a lot of information you can have\Non that paper,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:39.09,0:07:40.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it's also very delicate.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:40.40,0:07:46.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Like, its ability to record is also its vulnerability\Nto damage.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:48.36,0:07:52.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When those long pieces are done and when they're\Nbeautiful,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:52.24,0:07:54.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there are so many tiny chemical reactions--
Dialogue: 0,0:07:54.99,0:07:58.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,chance things that are coming together that\Ncan never be replicated.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:58.77,0:08:00.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it's all on one big vulnerable thing,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:00.80,0:08:04.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then it's just installed, out for the\Nair,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:04.05,0:08:05.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the least safe way possible,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:05.90,0:08:09.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,over those, like, trapeze bars.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:27.14,0:08:29.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Roxana Marcoci, Senior Curator]
Dialogue: 0,0:08:29.94,0:08:33.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Roxana Marcoci said something really good,\Nlooking at it.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:33.26,0:08:36.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She said, "We try to control everything but\Nwe can't."
Dialogue: 0,0:08:36.58,0:08:41.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It reminded me that that's what this is about.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:41.47,0:08:46.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All your attempts are going to fail at controlling\Nlife,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:46.42,0:08:52.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so you should let that go so you can actually\Nsee what's happening.