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The first e-mail that I got from Allan McCollum, stating that he was an artist in New York City,

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I really didn't know who he was.

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And then after we got into the process a little deeper,

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where he ordered some custom cutters for a test,

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Oh, that's an interesting shape.

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I went on his website and I found that he was little more involved in the art world,

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Than I had imagined to start with.

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Holly, who the company is named after,

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She had a collection of tin cookie cutters.

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Then, she decided she really would rather have copper, a which is a lot nicer.

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She went to a local coppersmith, they were very expensive.

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And she decided that I should attempt to make her some copper cookie cutters,

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And save her some money, so I investigated for a couple of weeks,

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Procedures, how I might be able to do it, played around with a few things,

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And we've been progressing on, ever since.

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One thing about copper, it's pretty pliable.

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You make mistake or have a problem, you can usually straighten it up pretty easily.

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Just keep following the pattern of the tags.

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I don't know if this process is the standard of the industry or not.

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Just a process I came up with, and started doing, and it's the way we've always done it.

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I've never checked on the internet to see if it's the right way or the wrong way.

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Seems to work for us.

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Make a sweeping turn.

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And at this point, we're actually gonna lift it up and forget that for right now.

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This is an automatic center punch, I'm locating the spots where I intend to put my rivets.

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[Tapping noise]

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And then we take the completed shape and we put it in the polishing machine.

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Which is a vibratory polisher, and we use walnut shell media.

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And the walnut shell media, it stays in there for three hours, and it becomes really bright and shiny.

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[Vibrating noise]

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The final procedure is to put it in an air-tight container and sealing it.

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And we have an identification tag saying it's for Allan McCollum's "Shapes Project,"

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And telling people not to touch it. [Laughs]

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When he puts the pieces together, it becomes a huge work of art.

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It's gonna be in the Chelsea district of Manhattan.

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I mean, I'd like to see the show of course, but I don't think I can make that trip.

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Oh, you guys are gonna tape it, aren't you? [Laughs]

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And we'll have our tape.