1 00:00:01,957 --> 00:00:03,518 Let me tell you a story 2 00:00:03,518 --> 00:00:06,724 about a little girl named Naghma. 3 00:00:06,724 --> 00:00:08,546 Naghma lived in a refugee camp 4 00:00:08,546 --> 00:00:11,425 with her parents and her eight brothers and sisters. 5 00:00:11,425 --> 00:00:13,361 Every morning, her father would wake up 6 00:00:13,361 --> 00:00:15,801 in the hopes he'd be picked for construction work, 7 00:00:15,801 --> 00:00:19,367 and on a good month he would earn 50 dollars. 8 00:00:19,367 --> 00:00:20,755 The winter was very harsh, 9 00:00:20,755 --> 00:00:23,439 and unfortunately, Naghma's brother died 10 00:00:23,439 --> 00:00:25,359 and her mother became very ill. 11 00:00:25,359 --> 00:00:27,939 In desperation, her father went to a neighbor 12 00:00:27,939 --> 00:00:30,886 to borrow 2,500 dollars. 13 00:00:30,886 --> 00:00:32,250 After several months of waiting, 14 00:00:32,250 --> 00:00:33,767 the neighbor became very impatient, 15 00:00:33,767 --> 00:00:36,485 and he demanded that he be paid back. 16 00:00:36,485 --> 00:00:38,929 Unfortunately, Naghma's father didn't have the money, 17 00:00:38,929 --> 00:00:41,764 and so the two men agreed to a jirga. 18 00:00:41,764 --> 00:00:44,294 So simply put, a jirga is a form of mediation 19 00:00:44,294 --> 00:00:47,534 that's used in Afghanistan's informal justice system. 20 00:00:47,534 --> 00:00:50,988 It's usually presided over by religious leaders 21 00:00:50,988 --> 00:00:52,686 and village elders, 22 00:00:52,686 --> 00:00:55,886 and jirgas are often used in rural countries like Afghanistan, 23 00:00:55,886 --> 00:00:57,737 where there's deep-seated resentment 24 00:00:57,737 --> 00:00:59,999 against the formal system. 25 00:00:59,999 --> 00:01:02,337 At the jirga, the men sat together 26 00:01:02,337 --> 00:01:05,251 and they decided that the best way to satisfy the debt 27 00:01:05,251 --> 00:01:09,840 would be if Naghma married the neighbor's 21-year old son. 28 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:12,500 She was six. 29 00:01:12,500 --> 00:01:14,565 Now, stories like Naghma unfortunately 30 00:01:14,565 --> 00:01:16,253 are all too common, 31 00:01:16,253 --> 00:01:17,748 and from the comforts of our home, 32 00:01:17,748 --> 00:01:19,243 we may look at these stories as another 33 00:01:19,243 --> 00:01:21,763 crushing blow to women's rights. 34 00:01:21,763 --> 00:01:24,294 And if you watched the Afghanistan on the news, 35 00:01:24,294 --> 00:01:27,993 you may have this view that it's a failed state. 36 00:01:27,993 --> 00:01:31,809 However, Afghanistan does have a legal system, 37 00:01:31,809 --> 00:01:35,671 and while jirgas are built on long-standing tribal customs, 38 00:01:35,671 --> 00:01:39,034 even in jirgas, laws are supposed to be followed, 39 00:01:39,034 --> 00:01:40,962 and it goes without saying 40 00:01:40,962 --> 00:01:43,583 that giving a child to satisfy a debt 41 00:01:43,583 --> 00:01:47,649 is not only grossly immoral, it's illegal. 42 00:01:47,649 --> 00:01:50,176 In 2008, I went to Afghanistan 43 00:01:50,176 --> 00:01:52,496 for a justice-funded program, 44 00:01:52,496 --> 00:01:55,203 and I went there originally on this nine-month program 45 00:01:55,203 --> 00:01:57,115 to train Afghan lawyers. 46 00:01:57,115 --> 00:01:59,376 In that nine months, I went around the country 47 00:01:59,376 --> 00:02:02,312 and I talked to hundreds of people that were locked up, 48 00:02:02,312 --> 00:02:03,910 and I talked to many businesses 49 00:02:03,910 --> 00:02:06,440 that were also operating in Afghanistan. 50 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:07,784 And within these conversations, 51 00:02:07,784 --> 00:02:09,655 I started hearing the connections 52 00:02:09,655 --> 00:02:11,645 between the businesses and the people, 53 00:02:11,645 --> 00:02:13,715 and how laws that were meant to protect them 54 00:02:13,715 --> 00:02:15,416 were being underused, 55 00:02:15,416 --> 00:02:19,474 while gross and illegal punitive measures were over-used. 56 00:02:19,474 --> 00:02:22,298 And so this put me on a quest for justness, 57 00:02:22,298 --> 00:02:25,020 and what justness means to me 58 00:02:25,020 --> 00:02:28,715 is using laws for their intended purpose, 59 00:02:28,715 --> 00:02:31,040 which is to protect. 60 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:34,543 The role of laws is to protect. 61 00:02:34,543 --> 00:02:38,258 So as a result, I decided to open up a private practice, 62 00:02:38,258 --> 00:02:40,599 and I became the first foreigner to litigate 63 00:02:40,599 --> 00:02:42,815 in Afghan courts. 64 00:02:42,815 --> 00:02:45,672 Throughout this time, I also studied many laws, 65 00:02:45,672 --> 00:02:47,202 I talked to many people, 66 00:02:47,202 --> 00:02:48,373 I read up on many cases, 67 00:02:48,373 --> 00:02:50,763 and I found that the lack of justness 68 00:02:50,763 --> 00:02:52,749 is not just a problem in Afghanistan, 69 00:02:52,749 --> 00:02:55,070 but it's a global problem. 70 00:02:55,070 --> 00:02:56,821 And while I originally shied away from 71 00:02:56,821 --> 00:02:58,938 representing human rights cases 72 00:02:58,938 --> 00:03:01,117 because I was really concerned about how it would 73 00:03:01,117 --> 00:03:03,760 affect me both professionally and personally, 74 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:06,513 I decided that the need for justness was so great 75 00:03:06,513 --> 00:03:08,384 that I couldn't continue to ignore it. 76 00:03:08,384 --> 00:03:10,701 And so I started representing people like Naghma 77 00:03:10,701 --> 00:03:13,157 pro bono also. 78 00:03:13,157 --> 00:03:14,863 Now, since I've been in Afghanistan 79 00:03:14,863 --> 00:03:17,326 and since I've been an attorney for over 10 years, 80 00:03:17,326 --> 00:03:21,040 I've represented from CEOs to Fortune 500 countries 81 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:23,368 to ambassadors to little girls like Naghma 82 00:03:23,368 --> 00:03:24,918 and with much success, 83 00:03:24,918 --> 00:03:27,833 and the reason for my success is very simple: 84 00:03:27,833 --> 00:03:29,843 I work the system from the inside out 85 00:03:29,843 --> 00:03:31,262 and use the laws in the ways 86 00:03:31,262 --> 00:03:33,998 that they're intended to be used. 87 00:03:33,998 --> 00:03:36,120 I find that 88 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:39,536 achieving justness in places like Afghanistan 89 00:03:39,536 --> 00:03:41,684 is difficult, and there's three reasons. 90 00:03:41,684 --> 00:03:44,240 The first reason is that simply put, 91 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:47,339 people are very uneducated as to what their legal rights were, 92 00:03:47,339 --> 00:03:49,930 and I find that this is a global problem. 93 00:03:49,930 --> 00:03:51,144 The second issue 94 00:03:51,144 --> 00:03:54,583 is that even with laws on the books, 95 00:03:54,583 --> 00:03:56,848 it's often superseded or ignored 96 00:03:56,848 --> 00:03:59,170 by tribal customs, like in the first jirga 97 00:03:59,170 --> 00:04:00,702 that sold Naghma off. 98 00:04:00,702 --> 00:04:03,404 And the third problem with achieving justness 99 00:04:03,404 --> 00:04:06,216 is that even with good, existing laws on the books, 100 00:04:06,216 --> 00:04:08,862 there aren't people or lawyers that are willing to fight 101 00:04:08,862 --> 00:04:10,558 for those laws. 102 00:04:10,558 --> 00:04:13,432 And that's what I do: I use existing laws, 103 00:04:13,432 --> 00:04:15,231 often unused laws, 104 00:04:15,231 --> 00:04:18,865 and I work those to the benefits of my clients. 105 00:04:18,865 --> 00:04:21,413 We all need to create a global culture 106 00:04:21,413 --> 00:04:23,241 of human rights 107 00:04:23,241 --> 00:04:25,990 and be investors in a global human rights economy, 108 00:04:25,990 --> 00:04:27,757 and by working in this mindset, 109 00:04:27,757 --> 00:04:30,474 we can significantly improve justice globally. 110 00:04:30,474 --> 00:04:32,866 Now let's get back to Naghma. 111 00:04:32,866 --> 00:04:35,265 Several people heard about this story, 112 00:04:35,265 --> 00:04:36,790 and so they contacted me because they wanted 113 00:04:36,790 --> 00:04:39,355 to pay the 2,500 debt. 114 00:04:39,355 --> 00:04:41,216 And it's not just that simple: 115 00:04:41,216 --> 00:04:42,998 you can't just throw money at this problem 116 00:04:42,998 --> 00:04:44,151 and think that it's going to disappear. 117 00:04:44,151 --> 00:04:46,632 That's not how it works in Afghanistan. 118 00:04:46,632 --> 00:04:50,030 So I told them I'd get involved, 119 00:04:50,030 --> 00:04:52,318 but in order to get involved, what needed to happen 120 00:04:52,318 --> 00:04:55,141 is a second jirga needed to be called, 121 00:04:55,141 --> 00:04:57,250 a jirga of appeals. 122 00:04:57,250 --> 00:04:59,501 And so in order for that to happen, 123 00:04:59,501 --> 00:05:02,206 we needed to get the village elders together, 124 00:05:02,206 --> 00:05:04,467 we needed to get the tribal leaders together, 125 00:05:04,467 --> 00:05:06,056 the religious leaders. 126 00:05:06,056 --> 00:05:07,630 Naghma's father needed to agree, 127 00:05:07,630 --> 00:05:08,881 the neighbor needed to agree, 128 00:05:08,881 --> 00:05:11,085 and also his son needed to agree. 129 00:05:11,085 --> 00:05:15,110 And I thought, if I'm going to get involved in this thing, 130 00:05:15,110 --> 00:05:18,765 then they also need to agree that I preside over it. 131 00:05:18,765 --> 00:05:21,735 So, after hours of talking 132 00:05:21,735 --> 00:05:22,943 and tracking them down, 133 00:05:22,943 --> 00:05:25,806 and about 30 cups of tea, 134 00:05:25,806 --> 00:05:27,718 they finally agreed that we could sit down 135 00:05:27,718 --> 00:05:31,050 for a second jirga, and we did. 136 00:05:31,050 --> 00:05:33,134 And what was different about the second jirga 137 00:05:33,134 --> 00:05:35,709 is this time, we put the law at the center of it, 138 00:05:35,709 --> 00:05:37,053 and it was very important for me 139 00:05:37,053 --> 00:05:38,811 that they all understood that Naghma 140 00:05:38,811 --> 00:05:41,150 had a right to be protected. 141 00:05:41,150 --> 00:05:42,696 And at the end of this jirga, 142 00:05:42,696 --> 00:05:44,989 it was ordered by the judge 143 00:05:44,989 --> 00:05:48,825 that the first decision was erased, 144 00:05:48,825 --> 00:05:52,257 and that the 2,500 debt was satisfied, 145 00:05:52,257 --> 00:05:54,090 and we all signed a written order 146 00:05:54,090 --> 00:05:55,481 where all the men acknowledged 147 00:05:55,481 --> 00:05:57,601 that what they did was illegal, 148 00:05:57,601 --> 00:06:02,399 and if they did it again, that they would go to prison. 149 00:06:02,399 --> 00:06:04,168 Most — 150 00:06:04,168 --> 00:06:05,636 (Applause) 151 00:06:05,636 --> 00:06:07,483 Thanks. 152 00:06:07,483 --> 00:06:09,299 And most importantly, 153 00:06:09,299 --> 00:06:10,800 the engagement was terminated 154 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:12,809 and Naghma was free. 155 00:06:12,809 --> 00:06:15,666 Protecting Naghma and her right to be free 156 00:06:15,666 --> 00:06:18,300 protects us. 157 00:06:18,300 --> 00:06:21,762 Now, with my job, there's above-average 158 00:06:21,762 --> 00:06:24,505 amount of risks that are involved. 159 00:06:24,505 --> 00:06:27,212 I've been temporarily detained. 160 00:06:27,212 --> 00:06:29,805 I've been accused of running a brothel, 161 00:06:29,805 --> 00:06:32,110 accused of being a spy. 162 00:06:32,110 --> 00:06:34,238 I've had a grenade thrown at my office. 163 00:06:34,238 --> 00:06:36,937 It didn't go off, though. 164 00:06:36,937 --> 00:06:38,537 But I find that with my job, 165 00:06:38,537 --> 00:06:41,503 that the rewards far outweigh the risks, 166 00:06:41,503 --> 00:06:43,877 and as many risks as I take, 167 00:06:43,877 --> 00:06:45,846 my clients take far greater risks, 168 00:06:45,846 --> 00:06:47,349 because they have a lot more to lose 169 00:06:47,349 --> 00:06:48,839 if their cases go unheard, 170 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:51,962 or worse, if they're penalized for having me as their lawyer. 171 00:06:51,962 --> 00:06:53,736 With every case that I take, 172 00:06:53,736 --> 00:06:56,656 I realize that as much as I'm standing behind my clients, 173 00:06:56,656 --> 00:06:58,669 that they're also standing behind me, 174 00:06:58,669 --> 00:07:02,462 and that's what keeps me going. 175 00:07:02,462 --> 00:07:04,359 Law as a point of leverage 176 00:07:04,359 --> 00:07:06,881 is crucial in protecting all of us. 177 00:07:06,881 --> 00:07:09,517 Journalists are very vital in making sure 178 00:07:09,517 --> 00:07:12,791 that that information is given to the public. 179 00:07:12,791 --> 00:07:15,277 Too often, we receive information from journalists 180 00:07:15,277 --> 00:07:18,921 but we forget how that information was given. 181 00:07:18,921 --> 00:07:21,507 This picture is a picture of the 182 00:07:21,507 --> 00:07:23,500 British press corps in Afghanistan. 183 00:07:23,500 --> 00:07:26,649 It was taken a couple of years ago by my friend David Gill. 184 00:07:26,649 --> 00:07:28,517 According to the Committee to Protect Journalists, 185 00:07:28,517 --> 00:07:31,363 since 2010, there have been thousands of journalists 186 00:07:31,363 --> 00:07:33,241 who have been threatened, injured, 187 00:07:33,241 --> 00:07:35,873 killed, detained. 188 00:07:35,873 --> 00:07:38,112 Too often, when we get this information, 189 00:07:38,112 --> 00:07:39,336 we forget who it affects 190 00:07:39,336 --> 00:07:42,634 or how that information is given to us. 191 00:07:42,634 --> 00:07:45,244 What many journalists do, both foreign and domestic, 192 00:07:45,244 --> 00:07:49,315 is very remarkable, especially in places like Afghanistan, 193 00:07:49,315 --> 00:07:50,887 and it's important that we never forget that, 194 00:07:50,887 --> 00:07:52,243 because what they're protecting 195 00:07:52,243 --> 00:07:54,525 is not only our right to receive that information 196 00:07:54,525 --> 00:07:56,582 but also the freedom of the press, which is vital 197 00:07:56,582 --> 00:07:59,458 to a democratic society. 198 00:07:59,458 --> 00:08:03,343 Matt Rosenberg is a journalist in Afghanistan. 199 00:08:03,343 --> 00:08:05,233 He works for the New York Times, 200 00:08:05,233 --> 00:08:06,850 and unfortunately, a few months ago 201 00:08:06,850 --> 00:08:08,990 he wrote an article that displeased 202 00:08:08,990 --> 00:08:10,296 people in the government. 203 00:08:10,296 --> 00:08:13,546 As a result, he was temporarily detained 204 00:08:13,546 --> 00:08:17,859 and he was illegally exiled out of the country. 205 00:08:17,859 --> 00:08:19,911 I represent Matt, 206 00:08:19,911 --> 00:08:21,619 and after dealing with the government, 207 00:08:21,619 --> 00:08:23,379 I was able to get legal acknowledgement 208 00:08:23,379 --> 00:08:26,780 that in fact he was illegally exiled, 209 00:08:26,780 --> 00:08:29,840 and that freedom of the press does exist in Afghanistan, 210 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:32,372 and there's consequences if that's not followed. 211 00:08:32,372 --> 00:08:34,118 And I'm happy to say that 212 00:08:34,118 --> 00:08:36,206 as of a few days ago, 213 00:08:36,206 --> 00:08:37,532 the Afghan government 214 00:08:37,532 --> 00:08:39,744 formally invited him back into the country 215 00:08:39,744 --> 00:08:43,377 and they reversed their exile order of him. 216 00:08:43,377 --> 00:08:47,356 (Applause) 217 00:08:48,529 --> 00:08:51,252 If you censor one journalist, then it intimidates others, 218 00:08:51,252 --> 00:08:53,224 and soon nations are silenced. 219 00:08:53,224 --> 00:08:55,942 It's important that we protect our journalists 220 00:08:55,942 --> 00:08:57,719 and freedom of the press, 221 00:08:57,719 --> 00:08:59,778 because that makes governments more accountable to us 222 00:08:59,778 --> 00:09:01,983 and more transparent. 223 00:09:01,983 --> 00:09:03,670 Protecting journalists and our right 224 00:09:03,670 --> 00:09:07,844 to receive information protects us. 225 00:09:07,844 --> 00:09:10,860 Our world is changing. We live in a different world now, 226 00:09:10,860 --> 00:09:13,243 and what were once individual problems 227 00:09:13,243 --> 00:09:16,061 are really now global problems for all of us. 228 00:09:16,061 --> 00:09:19,700 Two weeks ago, Afghanistan had its first 229 00:09:19,700 --> 00:09:21,691 democratic transfer of power 230 00:09:21,691 --> 00:09:24,943 and elected president Ashraf Ghani, which is huge, 231 00:09:24,943 --> 00:09:27,440 and I'm very optimistic about him, 232 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:29,419 and I'm hopeful that he'll give Afghanistan 233 00:09:29,419 --> 00:09:30,690 the changes that it needs, 234 00:09:30,690 --> 00:09:33,187 especially within the legal sector. 235 00:09:33,187 --> 00:09:35,090 We live in a different world. 236 00:09:35,090 --> 00:09:37,439 We live in a world where my eight-year old daughter 237 00:09:37,439 --> 00:09:40,153 only knows a black president. 238 00:09:40,153 --> 00:09:42,861 There's a great possibility that our next president 239 00:09:42,861 --> 00:09:44,197 will be a woman, 240 00:09:44,197 --> 00:09:47,100 and as she gets older, she may question, 241 00:09:47,100 --> 00:09:48,845 can a white guy be president? 242 00:09:48,845 --> 00:09:50,619 (Laughter) 243 00:09:50,619 --> 00:09:53,730 (Applause) 244 00:09:53,730 --> 00:09:57,260 Our world is changing, and we need to change with it, 245 00:09:57,260 --> 00:09:58,542 and what were once individual problems 246 00:09:58,542 --> 00:10:01,390 are problems for all of us. 247 00:10:01,390 --> 00:10:03,998 According to UNICEF, 248 00:10:03,998 --> 00:10:09,509 there are currently over 280 million 249 00:10:09,509 --> 00:10:11,394 boys and girls who are married 250 00:10:11,394 --> 00:10:13,176 under the age of 15. 251 00:10:13,176 --> 00:10:15,219 280 million. 252 00:10:15,219 --> 00:10:17,761 Child marriages prolong the vicious cycle 253 00:10:17,761 --> 00:10:22,181 of poverty, poor health, lack of education. 254 00:10:22,181 --> 00:10:26,868 At the age of 12, Sahar was married. 255 00:10:26,868 --> 00:10:28,717 She was forced into this marriage 256 00:10:28,717 --> 00:10:30,417 and sold by her brother. 257 00:10:30,417 --> 00:10:32,485 When she went to her in-laws' house, 258 00:10:32,485 --> 00:10:35,173 they forced her into prostitution. 259 00:10:35,173 --> 00:10:38,986 Because she refused, she was tortured. 260 00:10:38,986 --> 00:10:43,011 She was severely beaten with metal rods. 261 00:10:43,011 --> 00:10:45,803 They burned her body. 262 00:10:45,803 --> 00:10:49,293 They tied her up in a basement and starved her. 263 00:10:49,293 --> 00:10:53,503 They used pliers to take out her fingernails. 264 00:10:53,503 --> 00:10:55,332 At one point, 265 00:10:55,332 --> 00:10:58,537 she managed to escape from this torture chamber 266 00:10:58,537 --> 00:11:00,910 to a neighbor's house, 267 00:11:00,910 --> 00:11:04,646 and when she went there, instead of protecting her, 268 00:11:04,646 --> 00:11:06,221 they dragged her back 269 00:11:06,221 --> 00:11:07,857 to her husband's house, 270 00:11:07,857 --> 00:11:11,638 and she was tortured even worse. 271 00:11:13,864 --> 00:11:16,975 When I met first Sahar, thankfully, 272 00:11:16,975 --> 00:11:18,206 Women for Afghan Women 273 00:11:18,206 --> 00:11:21,534 gave her a safe haven to go to. 274 00:11:21,534 --> 00:11:24,720 You know, as a lawyer, I try to be very strong 275 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:26,379 for all my clients, 276 00:11:26,379 --> 00:11:30,193 because that's very important to me, 277 00:11:30,193 --> 00:11:33,122 but seeing her, 278 00:11:33,122 --> 00:11:37,024 how broken and very weak as she was, 279 00:11:37,024 --> 00:11:40,321 was very difficult. 280 00:11:40,321 --> 00:11:43,808 It took weeks for us to really get to 281 00:11:43,808 --> 00:11:47,164 what happened to her 282 00:11:47,164 --> 00:11:49,120 when she was in that house, 283 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:51,760 but finally she started opening up to me, 284 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:54,080 and when she opened up, 285 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:55,552 what I heard was 286 00:11:55,552 --> 00:11:58,152 she didn't know what her rights were, 287 00:11:58,152 --> 00:12:00,355 but she did know she had a certain level of protection 288 00:12:00,355 --> 00:12:02,982 by her government that failed her, 289 00:12:02,982 --> 00:12:04,584 and so we were able to talk about 290 00:12:04,584 --> 00:12:07,126 what her legal options were. 291 00:12:07,126 --> 00:12:09,134 And so we decided to take this case 292 00:12:09,134 --> 00:12:10,890 to the Supreme Court. 293 00:12:10,890 --> 00:12:12,760 Now, this is extremely significant, 294 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:14,673 because this is the first time 295 00:12:14,673 --> 00:12:17,509 that a victim of domestic violence in Afghanistan 296 00:12:17,509 --> 00:12:20,302 was being represented by a lawyer, 297 00:12:20,302 --> 00:12:23,037 a law that's been on the books for years and years, 298 00:12:23,037 --> 00:12:26,443 but until Sahar had never been used. 299 00:12:26,443 --> 00:12:28,655 In addition to this, we also decided 300 00:12:28,655 --> 00:12:30,378 to sue for civil damages, 301 00:12:30,378 --> 00:12:33,325 again using a law that's never been used, 302 00:12:33,325 --> 00:12:36,353 but we used it for her case. 303 00:12:36,353 --> 00:12:38,615 So there we were at the Supreme Court 304 00:12:38,615 --> 00:12:41,857 arguing in front of 12 Afghan justices, 305 00:12:41,857 --> 00:12:44,493 me as an American female lawyer, 306 00:12:44,493 --> 00:12:47,980 and Sahar, a young woman 307 00:12:47,980 --> 00:12:53,163 who when I met her couldn't speak above a whisper. 308 00:12:53,163 --> 00:12:54,834 She stood up, 309 00:12:54,834 --> 00:12:57,120 she found her voice, 310 00:12:57,120 --> 00:12:59,917 and my girl told me that she wanted justice, 311 00:12:59,917 --> 00:13:02,556 and she got it. 312 00:13:02,556 --> 00:13:05,385 At the end of it all, the court unanimously agreed 313 00:13:05,385 --> 00:13:09,568 that her in-laws should be arrested for what they did to her, 314 00:13:09,568 --> 00:13:12,177 her fucking brother should also be arrested 315 00:13:12,177 --> 00:13:14,123 for selling her 316 00:13:14,123 --> 00:13:18,543 — (Applause) — 317 00:13:18,543 --> 00:13:20,546 and they agreed that she did have a right 318 00:13:20,546 --> 00:13:22,964 to civil compensation. 319 00:13:22,964 --> 00:13:25,743 What Sahar has shown us is that we can attack 320 00:13:25,743 --> 00:13:28,521 existing bad practices by using the laws 321 00:13:28,521 --> 00:13:31,459 in the ways that they're intended to be used, 322 00:13:31,459 --> 00:13:33,940 and by protecting Sahar, 323 00:13:33,940 --> 00:13:37,520 we are protecting ourselves. 324 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:39,152 After having worked in Afghanistan 325 00:13:39,152 --> 00:13:41,150 for over six years now, 326 00:13:41,150 --> 00:13:43,201 a lot of my family and friends now think 327 00:13:43,201 --> 00:13:45,993 that what I do looks like this. 328 00:13:45,993 --> 00:13:48,499 (Laughter) 329 00:13:48,499 --> 00:13:53,137 But in all actuality, what I do looks like this. 330 00:13:53,137 --> 00:13:55,010 Now, we can all do something. 331 00:13:55,010 --> 00:13:57,790 I'm not saying we should all buy a plane ticket and go to Afghanistan, 332 00:13:57,790 --> 00:14:00,812 but we can all be contributors 333 00:14:00,812 --> 00:14:02,871 to a global human rights economy. 334 00:14:02,871 --> 00:14:05,139 We can create a culture of transparency 335 00:14:05,139 --> 00:14:06,463 and accountability to the laws, 336 00:14:06,463 --> 00:14:08,874 and make governments more accountable to us 337 00:14:08,874 --> 00:14:11,897 as we are to them. 338 00:14:11,897 --> 00:14:13,889 A few months ago, a South African lawyer 339 00:14:13,889 --> 00:14:15,644 visited me in my office 340 00:14:15,644 --> 00:14:17,569 and he said, "I wanted to meet you. 341 00:14:17,569 --> 00:14:21,563 I wanted to see what a crazy person looked like." 342 00:14:21,563 --> 00:14:23,542 The laws are ours, 343 00:14:23,542 --> 00:14:25,575 and no matter what your ethnicity, 344 00:14:25,575 --> 00:14:28,466 nationality, gender, race, 345 00:14:28,466 --> 00:14:30,585 they belong to us, 346 00:14:30,585 --> 00:14:35,374 and fighting for justice is not an act of insanity. 347 00:14:35,374 --> 00:14:37,615 Businesses also need to get with the program. 348 00:14:37,615 --> 00:14:39,336 A corporate investment in human rights 349 00:14:39,336 --> 00:14:41,214 is a capital gain on your businesses, 350 00:14:41,214 --> 00:14:43,340 and whether you're a business, an NGO, 351 00:14:43,340 --> 00:14:47,435 or a private citizen, rule of law benefits all us. 352 00:14:47,435 --> 00:14:49,750 And by working together with a concerted mindset, 353 00:14:49,750 --> 00:14:53,206 through the people, public, and private sector, 354 00:14:53,206 --> 00:14:55,503 we can create a global human rights economy 355 00:14:55,503 --> 00:14:59,036 and all become global investors in human rights. 356 00:14:59,036 --> 00:15:00,820 And by doing this, 357 00:15:00,820 --> 00:15:03,480 we can achieve justness together. 358 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:05,573 Thank you. 359 00:15:05,573 --> 00:15:09,573 (Applause)