And with pipes I would just go on the roofs
Somebody would know this, they would hear me
I was on top of the roof sometimes.
In my previous occupation, I was installing pipes and containers
They were wireless containers.
We were buying them from Taiwan.
And then we would just give them service - Internet service -
because there was no WiMax, no ADSL. There was only dialup.
And the dialup was really bad.
It wasn't even a connection. You would wait for it to load something, or to do something with it.
So for about 3 or 4 years I worked in that kind of field of business.
But then the government came in, and they brought the WiMax, the ADSL,
and everything else - the communications. And we couldn't cope with that anymore.
We had just to stop. I couldn't just go on, you know?
Although, I had five access points in Benghazi city, and I was covering it really well.
My clients were happy with my service.
After that, in two thousand and....
Since day one.
I will show you the laptop that I have started with from day one.
Here - this is the laptop I was talking to CNN from.
And this is the small cam that I was talking about.
This small laptop.
I was standing on a table like this one, for the connection.
And the mic was plugged in here. It's a small mic; I don't know where it is anymore.
Maybe I've loosed it.
And was, you know, just talking to him like this. Just like this, you know?
All this, pushing these buttons, I remember. That was what.
The video you were asking for, I will give it to you.
All they could see what my white hood and my face.
And then, just, you know, started to get bigger and bigger.
About that, like I told you, we don't deal with videos or Flash videos that much here.
We rely on the live feed - on what's happening at the moment. Exactly.
Now we have a room. We have a room full of people.
There's an admin there - he is gonna be an admin in the live stream.
He's gonna be adding other videos from other people to the studio.
Because we don't want a fuss - we don't want chaos in this place.
Right now, we want it to be calm, we want everybody to be quiet.
Like you'll see me asking them many times not to answer their phones inside,
not to talk inside, but they still do.
So we have moved other people to the other room. They have another two-way system there.
And they can work from that point right now.
I hope they can get some videos up today, because they told me it's gonna be really hard
because they're uploads are really low.
They have some horrific footage they need to put on the studio. I ask them.
But they were like, "Mohamed, it's (garbled) and a satellite station."
It's a very easy idea, I will explain it to you.
There's the satellites, like the NileSat, or the BD4, or the W6 or Express AM22.
They are on the orbits in the sky.
And all you have to do is have is the NOC - we call it the NOC, the N-O-C.
You establish one, and you start providing people with services,
And these people are called ISPs (Internet Service Providers), like me
Like me, a client. I'm a client of a company in England, for example.
I used to be a client of them. This company was stationed in England.
They have a big station, they have big dishes, they transmit.
They upload the data from the Internet sources with cables
to the upstream of the satellite. And then you only have to receive it.
And you have anything, you have to upload it.
So they give you services, quoted on a ratio. There's 1-to-1, which is dedicated,
And there is 1-to-2, 1-to-4, 1-to-8, 1-to-10....
Nothing. No, no, no, no. They can't even block the service.
They're not - they don't have the capability of doing that.
(laughs) Which they did the first day.
[What?]
They grabbed a cable connected to the system, a guy, and they told me they would deal with him
but I don't know what happened to them. When I was installing the dish,
a guy came and he actually cut the wires of the dish
And that is why people started protecting the point.
I didn't mention this to you before? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Abdullah can tell you - he was with me.
We were setting the dish and everything, I was just about to go onlne, and I'm waiting
A guy just came running from the crowd, and he just, you know, grabbed the cable
and he cut one of them. Connected - these cables which are connected to the - what do you say -
to the dish, to the heads, to the (???)
So he has just cut them down.
And when I went down, I was actually gonna fight wiith him.
People were like, "No, no, no. Just get back to your -"
[So where were you, where you could run and...]
I was as you see me here. I was busy doing other things.
I was - it was just a glance, you know.
Because people were actually next to us.
I mean, it's like, closer than me and you right now.
They were just next to me, next to the base, trying to figure out what is this.
They were happy; they thought that we are a TV station trying to, you know,
cover the media. So they were happy, they were protected.
But they felt they had to protect us to protect them.
No, no, on the beach, on the other side of the beach.
They did - they were on top of this building. I mean, if you can see on the stream
they were on top of these buildings, which is burnt, but I don't know why they didn't shoot us
They didn't do anything, I don't know. I don't know. I wouldn't know until more investigations
will happen, I think we'll know the whole story soon.
Bad news for the regime? It was the truth about the regime, not bad news.
It was the truth about what they were doing.
[Who is Gaddafi for you?]
Who is Gaddafi? For whom? For me?
[For you, yeah.]
He is not a person. I don't believe there's any human being can do what he has done
already to his people.
I mean, I don't know what are his excuses.
He was on TV the other day, saying, "My people love me..."
"if you don't believe they love me, they are here chanting for me, you can see..."
"A plah plah plah, a plah plah plah..."
I mean, who would say that? Who would cry like this? He was crying like a little girl.
I mean it was shameful. He shouldn't have done that. And he's going to go down without any dignity.
Soon, he's gonna go down without any dignity.
This, this this - I'm not going to say "this man," because he's not a man.
I don't what to describe him. They're not going to call him Gaddafi anymore
because it's insulting them. So they were actually asking us to call him something else.
So we're gonna call him Gerdaffi. Gerd means "monkey."
"Daffi," is just, you know, is just the rest of the name.
[But why? Does Gaddafi mean something?]
It's a surname, like any other name. What's your surname?
[OK, so Gaddafi doesn't mean anything like "The Lion?"]
No, no, no, no, no, no.
"Lion?" Ha ha. He wishes.
[So do you know that... wishing it or not, you're part of what we call the Anonymous network]
[You've heard of the Anonymous network? You know what it is?]
[The guys that make revolutions...]
I think I'm not anonymous anymore.
I mean, after all these interviews, between the last three days and today,
I think everyone has known what we have done here and who we are
because we haven't hidden our names since day one, since our first interview with CNN.
So I gave them my Facebook name, which is FulanWaledFulan. Yeah.
[And yeah, but I mean, Anonymous, before you were known, now the Anonymous are going out.]
[But before you were like faster than journalists.]
Heh, thank you for saying that.
I don't know why they weren't coming out. I don't know. I can't, I can't know, honestly.
[So you're not in touch with Anonymous in Egypt or anything?]
No, I wish I am. There was a star called, a girl, who started, Sarah Piscio, or something.
She was interested in the first few days, but then, she's never contacted me anymore
I don't know where she is anymore.
Yes.
In front of me, in my laptop. It was a webcam. That's what broadcasted from the first day.
The connection was really horrible. I was calling them on Skype.
And then we just started with this, you know, with this LiveStream thing,
with the help of people in the United States, in Seattle.
Yes, and that was....
I don't - I seriously don't - I haven't checked my Facebook since I don't know how long now.
Since I've been here, I've had no time to check my Facebook. Neither my main accounts, nothing.
With the Livestream.
Yes, directly, with the Livestream.com.
Myself, in front of the camera, and showing the crowd.
That's all could have see, I mean, and show.
[Off camera - Ya Abdallah!" Conversation in Arabic.]
I'm sorry.
Do any broadcasting?
Nope.
[more in Arabic, off camera]
Yeah.
I will show you. I will show you the laptop that I have started with from day one.
I will show you the laptop that I have started with from day one.
Actually, it's here. Stay with me.
Yeah, this is the laptop I was talking to CNN from.
This is the small cam I was telling you about. This small laptop.
I was standing on a table like this one, with a connection, and the mic was plugged in here
You know, you asked me for, I will give it to you.
All you could see was my white hood and my face. And then, just started, you know,
started to get bigger and bigger by the help of people from Seattle. Yeah.
Yeah.
I, I, I don't know about that, because as I told you, we don't deal with videos
or Flash movies that much here. We rely on the live feed. On what's happening at the moment.
Exactly.
Now we have a room. We have a room full of people. There's an admin there.
He's gonna be an admin in the livestream. He's gonna be adding other videos
from other people to the studio.
Because we don't want a fuss. We don't want a chaos in this place.
Yes. We couldn't. Still until now we couldn't succeed in publishing it.
Uh huh.
Yeah.
Every day we get, we get, uh, we get more advanced with technology.
Every day more people volunteer to help. Cameramen, cameras,
I mean, very high-quality cameras, studios. They are working on a montage of
directing what's happened and putting it on CDs, bringing them to put them in the DVD player.
So it's happening on the run; it's happening on the run. Everything's happening day-by-day.
Actually, some people were talking to me on the Skype. They were the heart.
It's gonna stay the heart of the demonstrations, the protesting, until Tripoli is freed.
Our only concern right now is Tripoli.
Still waiting.
I mean, Sky News NOC (network operations center) is waiting to call someone from Tripoli
so once I'm done with you, we'll call Tripoli and put them live for them, and they can hear the news.
Thank you so much. Thank you. Take care.
OK, I'm back with you guys.
I hope you enjoyed the Interview with the CNN today.
How many has seen it?
Right now I will need to call Tripoli, wait a second.