WEBVTT 00:00:01.365 --> 00:00:04.230 A briefcase full of poop changed my life. 00:00:04.810 --> 00:00:06.690 Ten years ago, I was a graduate student 00:00:06.714 --> 00:00:09.388 and I was helping judge a genetic engineering competition 00:00:09.412 --> 00:00:10.633 for undergrads. 00:00:10.657 --> 00:00:14.598 There, I met a British artist and designer named Alexandra Daisy Ginsberg. 00:00:14.622 --> 00:00:17.003 She was wearing the white embroidered polo shirt 00:00:17.027 --> 00:00:18.756 of the University of Cambridge team 00:00:18.780 --> 00:00:20.360 and holding a silver briefcase, 00:00:20.384 --> 00:00:23.668 like the kind that you would imagine is handcuffed to your wrist. 00:00:23.692 --> 00:00:25.476 She gestured over from a quiet corner 00:00:25.500 --> 00:00:27.500 and asked me if I wanted to see something. 00:00:27.803 --> 00:00:30.033 With a sneaky look, she opened up the suitcase, 00:00:30.057 --> 00:00:35.172 and inside were six glorious, multicolored turds. NOTE Paragraph 00:00:35.609 --> 00:00:37.283 The Cambridge team, she explained, 00:00:37.307 --> 00:00:40.220 had spent their summer engineering the bacteria E. coli 00:00:40.244 --> 00:00:43.006 to be able to sense different things in the environment 00:00:43.030 --> 00:00:45.974 and produce a rainbow of different colors in response. 00:00:45.998 --> 00:00:47.727 Arsenic in your drinking water? 00:00:47.751 --> 00:00:49.320 This strain would turn green. 00:00:49.344 --> 00:00:51.725 She and her collaborator, the designer James King, 00:00:51.749 --> 00:00:55.042 worked with the students and imagined the different possible scenarios 00:00:55.066 --> 00:00:56.828 of how you might use these bacteria. 00:00:56.852 --> 00:00:58.880 What if, they asked, you could use them 00:00:58.904 --> 00:01:03.190 as a living probiotic drink and health monitor, all in one? 00:01:03.785 --> 00:01:06.553 You could drink the bacteria and it would live in your gut, 00:01:06.577 --> 00:01:07.868 sensing what's going on, 00:01:07.892 --> 00:01:09.520 and then in response to something, 00:01:09.544 --> 00:01:11.812 it would be able to produce a colored output. 00:01:11.836 --> 00:01:13.003 Holy shit! NOTE Paragraph 00:01:13.027 --> 00:01:14.606 The Cambridge team went on to win 00:01:14.630 --> 00:01:17.503 the International Genetically Engineered Machine competition, 00:01:17.527 --> 00:01:18.887 or iGEM for short. 00:01:18.911 --> 00:01:22.220 And as for me, those turds were a turning point. NOTE Paragraph 00:01:22.744 --> 00:01:24.315 I am a synthetic biologist, 00:01:24.339 --> 00:01:27.617 which is probably a weird term that most people aren't familiar with. 00:01:27.641 --> 00:01:29.696 It definitely sounds like an oxymoron. 00:01:29.720 --> 00:01:32.010 How can biology, something natural, 00:01:32.034 --> 00:01:33.201 be synthetic? 00:01:33.225 --> 00:01:36.280 How can something artificial be alive? 00:01:36.788 --> 00:01:38.703 Synthetic biologists sort of poke holes 00:01:38.727 --> 00:01:43.006 in that boundary that we draw between what is natural and what's technological. 00:01:43.030 --> 00:01:45.680 And every year, iGEM students from all over the world 00:01:45.704 --> 00:01:46.918 spend their summer 00:01:46.942 --> 00:01:50.010 trying to engineer biology to be technology. 00:01:50.034 --> 00:01:52.749 They teach bacteria how to play sudoku, 00:01:52.773 --> 00:01:55.641 they make multicolored spider silk, 00:01:55.665 --> 00:01:57.815 they make self-healing concrete 00:01:57.839 --> 00:02:01.141 and tissue printers and plastic-eating bacteria. NOTE Paragraph 00:02:01.165 --> 00:02:02.561 Up until that moment, though, 00:02:02.585 --> 00:02:05.800 I was a little bit more concerned with a different kind of oxymoron. 00:02:06.180 --> 00:02:08.236 Just plain old genetic engineering. 00:02:08.260 --> 00:02:10.348 The comedian Simon Munnery once wrote 00:02:10.372 --> 00:02:15.264 that genetic engineering is actually insulting to proper engineering. 00:02:15.288 --> 00:02:19.153 Genetic engineering is more like throwing a bunch of concrete and steel in a river 00:02:19.177 --> 00:02:21.967 and if somebody can walk across, you call it a bridge. 00:02:22.411 --> 00:02:25.196 And so synthetic biologists were pretty worried about this, 00:02:25.220 --> 00:02:28.910 and worried that genetic engineering was a little bit more art that science. 00:02:29.369 --> 00:02:33.472 They wanted to turn genetic engineering into a real engineering discipline, 00:02:33.496 --> 00:02:37.401 where we could program cells and write DNA 00:02:37.425 --> 00:02:41.093 the way that engineers write software for computers. NOTE Paragraph 00:02:41.117 --> 00:02:45.641 That day 10 years ago started me on a path that gets me to where I am now. 00:02:45.665 --> 00:02:47.283 Today, I'm the creative director 00:02:47.307 --> 00:02:50.131 at a synthetic biology company called Ginkgo Bioworks. 00:02:50.433 --> 00:02:52.154 "Creative director" is a weird title 00:02:52.178 --> 00:02:54.734 for a biotech company were people try to program life 00:02:54.758 --> 00:02:56.758 the way that we program computers. 00:02:57.165 --> 00:02:59.220 But that day when I met Daisy, 00:02:59.244 --> 00:03:01.085 I learned something about engineering. 00:03:01.109 --> 00:03:03.949 I learned that engineering isn't really just about equations 00:03:03.973 --> 00:03:05.750 and steel and circuits, 00:03:05.774 --> 00:03:07.790 it's actually about people. 00:03:07.814 --> 00:03:10.329 It's something that people do, and it impacts us. NOTE Paragraph 00:03:10.353 --> 00:03:11.561 So in my work, 00:03:11.585 --> 00:03:15.233 I try to open up new spaces for different kinds of engineering. 00:03:15.633 --> 00:03:17.966 How can we ask better questions, 00:03:17.990 --> 00:03:19.721 and can we have better conversations 00:03:19.745 --> 00:03:22.188 about what we want from the future of technology? 00:03:22.212 --> 00:03:24.783 How can we understand the technological 00:03:24.807 --> 00:03:27.664 but also social and political and economic reasons 00:03:27.688 --> 00:03:30.458 that GMOs are so polarizing in our society? 00:03:30.482 --> 00:03:32.482 Can we make GMOs that people love? 00:03:33.315 --> 00:03:38.939 Can we use biology to make technology that's more expansive and regenerative? NOTE Paragraph 00:03:38.963 --> 00:03:42.733 I think it starts by recognizing that we, as synthetic biologists, 00:03:42.757 --> 00:03:46.680 are also shaped by a culture that values "real engineering" 00:03:46.704 --> 00:03:48.704 more than any of the squishy stuff. 00:03:49.561 --> 00:03:53.590 We get so caught up in circuits and what happens inside of computers, 00:03:53.614 --> 00:03:57.256 that we sometimes lose sight of the magic that's happening inside of us. 00:03:57.280 --> 00:03:59.918 There is plenty of shitty technology out there, 00:03:59.942 --> 00:04:04.410 but this was the first time that I imagined poop as technology. 00:04:04.434 --> 00:04:07.966 I began to see that synthetic biology was awesome, 00:04:07.990 --> 00:04:10.752 not because we could turn cells into computers, 00:04:10.776 --> 00:04:13.585 but because we could bring technology to life. 00:04:13.609 --> 00:04:15.498 This was technology that was visceral, 00:04:15.522 --> 00:04:18.672 an unforgettable vision of what the future might hold. 00:04:18.696 --> 00:04:21.149 But importantly, it was also framed as the question 00:04:21.173 --> 00:04:23.577 "Is this the kind of future that we actually want?" 00:04:23.601 --> 00:04:26.077 We've been promised a future of chrome, 00:04:26.101 --> 00:04:28.982 but what if the future is fleshy? NOTE Paragraph 00:04:29.006 --> 00:04:31.117 Science and science fiction 00:04:31.141 --> 00:04:33.728 help us remember that we're made of star stuff. 00:04:33.752 --> 00:04:36.426 But can it also help us remember the wonder and weirdness 00:04:36.450 --> 00:04:38.125 of being made of flesh? 00:04:38.149 --> 00:04:39.434 Biology is us, 00:04:39.458 --> 00:04:41.664 it's our bodies, it's what we eat. 00:04:41.688 --> 00:04:45.000 What happens when biology becomes technology? 00:04:45.709 --> 00:04:47.788 These images are questions, 00:04:47.812 --> 00:04:51.470 and they challenge what we think of as normal and desirable. 00:04:51.796 --> 00:04:54.723 And they also show us that the future is full of choices 00:04:54.747 --> 00:04:56.747 and that we could choose differently. 00:04:57.279 --> 00:05:00.556 What's the future of the body, of beauty? 00:05:00.580 --> 00:05:04.133 If we change the body, will we have new kinds of awareness? 00:05:04.506 --> 00:05:07.184 And will new kinds of awareness of the microbial world 00:05:07.208 --> 00:05:09.106 change the way that we eat? NOTE Paragraph 00:05:09.130 --> 00:05:12.643 The last chapter of my dissertation was all about cheese that I made 00:05:12.667 --> 00:05:15.733 using bacteria that I swabbed from in between my toes. 00:05:16.244 --> 00:05:18.434 I told you that the poop changed my life. 00:05:18.458 --> 00:05:21.220 I worked with the smell artist and researcher Sissel Tolaas 00:05:21.244 --> 00:05:26.288 to explore all of the ways that our bodies and cheese are connected 00:05:26.312 --> 00:05:29.058 through smell and therefore microbes. 00:05:29.082 --> 00:05:30.518 And we created this cheese 00:05:30.542 --> 00:05:33.474 to challenge how we think about the bacteria 00:05:33.498 --> 00:05:34.958 that's part of our lives 00:05:34.982 --> 00:05:37.458 and the bacteria that we work with in the lab. 00:05:37.482 --> 00:05:39.704 We are, indeed, what we eat. NOTE Paragraph 00:05:39.728 --> 00:05:41.918 The intersection of biology and technology 00:05:41.942 --> 00:05:46.029 is more often told as a story of transcending our fleshy realities. 00:05:46.053 --> 00:05:48.086 If you can upload your brain to a computer, 00:05:48.110 --> 00:05:50.078 you don't need to poop anymore after all. 00:05:50.102 --> 00:05:53.177 And that's usually a story that's told as a good thing, right? 00:05:53.201 --> 00:05:58.518 Because computers are clean, and biology is messy. 00:05:58.542 --> 00:06:01.141 Computers make sense and are rational, 00:06:01.165 --> 00:06:04.500 and biology is an unpredictable tangle. 00:06:05.331 --> 00:06:06.721 It kind of follows from there 00:06:06.745 --> 00:06:09.950 that science and technology are supposed to be rational, 00:06:09.974 --> 00:06:11.426 objective 00:06:11.450 --> 00:06:13.403 and pure, 00:06:13.427 --> 00:06:16.048 and it's humans that are a total mess. NOTE Paragraph 00:06:16.407 --> 00:06:18.645 But like synthetic biologists poke holes 00:06:18.669 --> 00:06:21.701 in that line between nature and technology, 00:06:21.725 --> 00:06:24.201 artists, designers and social scientists 00:06:24.225 --> 00:06:28.498 showed me that the lines that we draw between nature, technology and society 00:06:28.522 --> 00:06:30.895 are a little bit softer than we might think. 00:06:30.919 --> 00:06:34.399 They challenge us to reconsider our visions for the future 00:06:34.423 --> 00:06:37.360 and our fantasies about controlling nature. 00:06:37.384 --> 00:06:40.971 They show us how our prejudices, our hopes and our values 00:06:40.995 --> 00:06:43.222 are embedded in science and technology 00:06:43.246 --> 00:06:46.229 through the questions that we ask and the choices that we make. 00:06:46.253 --> 00:06:50.601 They make visible the ways that science and technology are human 00:06:50.625 --> 00:06:52.260 and therefore political. 00:06:52.284 --> 00:06:54.768 What does it mean for us to be able to control life 00:06:54.792 --> 00:06:56.339 for our own purposes? NOTE Paragraph 00:06:56.363 --> 00:06:58.212 The artists Oron Catts and Ionat Zurr 00:06:58.236 --> 00:07:00.371 made a project called "Victimless Leather," 00:07:00.395 --> 00:07:03.283 where they engineered a tiny leather jacket 00:07:03.307 --> 00:07:04.776 out of mouse cells. 00:07:04.800 --> 00:07:06.990 Is this jacket alive? 00:07:07.014 --> 00:07:10.291 What does it take to grow it and keep it this way? 00:07:10.315 --> 00:07:11.910 Is it really victimless? 00:07:11.934 --> 00:07:14.545 And what does it mean for something to be victimless? NOTE Paragraph 00:07:15.022 --> 00:07:16.236 The choices that we make 00:07:16.260 --> 00:07:19.760 in what we show and what we hide in our stories of progress, 00:07:19.784 --> 00:07:23.487 are often political choices that have real consequences. 00:07:23.511 --> 00:07:27.764 How will genetic technologies shape the way that we understand ourselves 00:07:27.788 --> 00:07:29.217 and define our bodies? NOTE Paragraph 00:07:29.241 --> 00:07:31.839 The artist Heather Dewey-Hagborg made these faces 00:07:31.863 --> 00:07:34.918 based on DNA sequences she extracted from sidewalk litter, 00:07:34.942 --> 00:07:38.145 forcing us to ask questions about genetic privacy, 00:07:38.169 --> 00:07:41.867 but also how and whether DNA can really define us. 00:07:42.249 --> 00:07:45.387 How will we fight against and cope with climate change? 00:07:45.411 --> 00:07:47.633 Will we change the way that we make everything, 00:07:47.657 --> 00:07:51.760 using biological materials that can grow and decay alongside us? 00:07:51.784 --> 00:07:54.077 Will we change our own bodies? 00:07:54.101 --> 00:07:55.942 Or nature itself? 00:07:55.966 --> 00:08:00.076 Or can we change the system that keeps reinforcing those boundaries 00:08:00.100 --> 00:08:03.196 between science, society, nature and technology? 00:08:03.220 --> 00:08:07.561 Relationships that today keep us locked in these unsustainable patterns. NOTE Paragraph 00:08:07.585 --> 00:08:09.783 How we understand and respond to crises 00:08:09.807 --> 00:08:12.847 that are natural, technical and social all at once, 00:08:12.871 --> 00:08:15.116 from coronavirus to climate change, 00:08:15.140 --> 00:08:16.847 is deeply political, 00:08:16.871 --> 00:08:19.577 and science never happens in a vacuum. NOTE Paragraph 00:08:20.165 --> 00:08:21.379 Let's go back in time 00:08:21.403 --> 00:08:23.932 to when the first European settlers arrived in Hawaii. 00:08:24.488 --> 00:08:28.004 They eventually brought their cattle and their scientists with them. 00:08:28.028 --> 00:08:30.203 The cattle roamed the hillsides, 00:08:30.227 --> 00:08:33.137 trampling and changing the ecosystems as they went. 00:08:33.161 --> 00:08:36.629 The scientists catalogued the species that they found there, 00:08:36.653 --> 00:08:39.685 often taking the last specimen before they went extinct. 00:08:40.117 --> 00:08:42.331 This is the Maui hau kuahiwi, 00:08:42.355 --> 00:08:44.561 or the Hibiscadelphus wilderianus, 00:08:44.585 --> 00:08:46.967 so named by Gerrit Wilder in 1910. 00:08:47.276 --> 00:08:49.855 By 1912, it was extinct. NOTE Paragraph 00:08:49.879 --> 00:08:53.164 I found this specimen in the Harvard University Herbarium, 00:08:53.188 --> 00:08:57.352 where it's housed with five million other specimens from all over the world. 00:08:57.376 --> 00:09:00.114 I wanted to take a piece of science's past, 00:09:00.138 --> 00:09:02.296 tied up as it was with colonialism, 00:09:02.320 --> 00:09:03.712 and all of the embedded ideas 00:09:03.736 --> 00:09:07.807 of the way that nature and science and society should work together, 00:09:07.831 --> 00:09:10.664 and ask questions about science's future. NOTE Paragraph 00:09:11.109 --> 00:09:13.014 Working with an awesome team at Ginkgo, 00:09:13.038 --> 00:09:14.982 and others at UC Santa Cruz, 00:09:15.006 --> 00:09:17.609 we were able to extract a little bit of the DNA 00:09:17.633 --> 00:09:20.133 from a tiny sliver of this plant specimen 00:09:20.157 --> 00:09:22.268 and to sequence the DNA inside. 00:09:22.292 --> 00:09:25.439 And then resynthesize a possible version 00:09:25.463 --> 00:09:28.629 of the genes that made the smell of the plant. 00:09:28.653 --> 00:09:31.026 By inserting those genes into yeast, 00:09:31.050 --> 00:09:33.563 we could produce little bits of that smell 00:09:33.587 --> 00:09:35.325 and be able to, maybe, smell 00:09:35.349 --> 00:09:37.658 a little bit of something that's lost forever. 00:09:37.682 --> 00:09:39.705 Working again with Daisy and Sissel Tolaas, 00:09:39.729 --> 00:09:42.218 my collaborator on the cheese project, 00:09:42.242 --> 00:09:46.276 we reconstructed and composed a new smell of that flower, 00:09:46.300 --> 00:09:49.331 and created an installation where people could experience it, 00:09:49.355 --> 00:09:52.751 to be part of this natural history and synthetic future. NOTE Paragraph 00:09:54.482 --> 00:09:56.530 Ten years ago, I was a synthetic biologist 00:09:56.554 --> 00:09:59.529 worried that genetic engineering was more art than science 00:09:59.553 --> 00:10:01.220 and that people were too messy 00:10:01.244 --> 00:10:03.244 and biology was too complicated. 00:10:03.641 --> 00:10:06.601 Now I use genetic engineering as art 00:10:06.625 --> 00:10:09.645 to explore all the different ways that we are entangled together 00:10:09.669 --> 00:10:11.899 and imagine different possible futures. 00:10:11.923 --> 00:10:13.622 A fleshy future 00:10:13.646 --> 00:10:16.942 is one that does recognize all those interconnections 00:10:16.966 --> 00:10:19.624 and the human realities of technology. 00:10:19.927 --> 00:10:23.439 But it also recognizes the incredible power of biology, 00:10:23.463 --> 00:10:25.408 its resilience and sustainability, 00:10:25.432 --> 00:10:28.431 its ability to heal and grow and adapt. 00:10:28.455 --> 00:10:30.418 Values that are so necessary 00:10:30.442 --> 00:10:33.037 for the visions of the futures that we can have today. 00:10:33.061 --> 00:10:35.371 Technology will shape that future, 00:10:35.395 --> 00:10:37.395 but humans make technology. 00:10:37.696 --> 00:10:40.309 How we decide what that future will be 00:10:40.333 --> 00:10:41.746 is up to all of us. NOTE Paragraph 00:10:42.556 --> 00:10:43.738 Thank you.