WEBVTT 00:00:31.920 --> 00:00:34.470 I said I wasn't excited, but look what I've done. 00:00:35.170 --> 00:00:37.180 I dropped the papers as soon as I came. 00:00:37.480 --> 00:00:38.674 I'm really excited; 00:00:38.674 --> 00:00:41.074 this is so different from being on stage. 00:00:41.074 --> 00:00:42.334 You're all welcome. 00:00:43.749 --> 00:00:46.579 I'm really excited, but nobody believes me. 00:00:46.579 --> 00:00:47.587 (Laughter) 00:00:47.587 --> 00:00:49.980 I'm excited, I see it now. 00:00:50.785 --> 00:00:54.555 Well, did I say welcome? Yes, I did. 00:00:55.881 --> 00:00:59.181 I don't know who shared what on social media, 00:00:59.889 --> 00:01:03.299 but it's something like this, and many of you have read it and asked me. 00:01:03.540 --> 00:01:07.100 "Levent Ülgen, who is playing the role of Sinan in Akasya Durağı, 00:01:07.504 --> 00:01:11.524 graduated in Physics from METU with a grade 4." 00:01:11.982 --> 00:01:13.092 (Laughter) 00:01:14.343 --> 00:01:16.653 Well, I brought along my academic record with me. 00:01:16.653 --> 00:01:17.673 (Laughter) 00:01:18.562 --> 00:01:20.422 Honestly, thanks to my grades. 00:01:20.828 --> 00:01:22.758 (Applause) 00:01:27.193 --> 00:01:30.373 "It was 1979. I entered METU in the prep year. 00:01:31.023 --> 00:01:32.293 Then there was a strike. 00:01:32.992 --> 00:01:34.461 (Laughter) 00:01:34.461 --> 00:01:36.821 In the first grade, I hardly learned English. 00:01:37.986 --> 00:01:39.836 Disgusting fights every day. 00:01:40.792 --> 00:01:43.698 First semester: 0,83. 00:01:44.768 --> 00:01:46.428 Second semester: 1,50. 00:01:46.428 --> 00:01:47.380 (Laughter) 00:01:47.380 --> 00:01:48.700 Failed, repeat. 00:01:49.495 --> 00:01:50.655 (Laughter) 00:01:51.202 --> 00:01:54.282 I was studying first grade in the second year: 2,25. 00:01:55.853 --> 00:01:57.963 Second semester: 2,74. 00:01:59.060 --> 00:02:03.490 Second grade: 2,03; maths, complex calculus burnt me up. 00:02:05.103 --> 00:02:09.063 After that, 2,17. I passed to third grade. 00:02:10.026 --> 00:02:11.414 2,47. 00:02:12.054 --> 00:02:13.772 2,83. 00:02:14.492 --> 00:02:19.292 Last grade: 3,07. Honour list. 00:02:19.292 --> 00:02:21.492 (Applause) 00:02:25.184 --> 00:02:27.894 And last semester: 4,00!" 00:02:28.524 --> 00:02:29.894 (Applause) 00:02:31.487 --> 00:02:33.167 Academic record, by God! 00:02:33.895 --> 00:02:39.025 I took lessons in Silicone Technology and History of World Theatre. 00:02:40.735 --> 00:02:43.685 One of them was optional, but did I finish with a 4,00? 00:02:43.925 --> 00:02:44.903 Yes, I did. 00:02:44.903 --> 00:02:46.503 Do I have a degree? Yes. 00:02:46.503 --> 00:02:48.494 Some don't even have degrees. 00:02:48.889 --> 00:02:50.409 (Applause) 00:02:53.734 --> 00:02:56.284 Thank God, I have two big diplomas - 00:02:56.284 --> 00:02:58.294 one from METU and one from Hacettepe. 00:03:01.825 --> 00:03:04.542 That's it, keep this between us, okay? 00:03:04.542 --> 00:03:08.460 Everyone thinks I finished with a 4,0, but they think I finished in 4 years. 00:03:08.460 --> 00:03:09.794 Keep this between us. 00:03:09.794 --> 00:03:11.889 But there's a 4,00 on the academic record, 00:03:11.889 --> 00:03:13.044 I can show it. 00:03:13.899 --> 00:03:17.788 Well, I went to high school in Bozkır, Konya, for two years 00:03:17.788 --> 00:03:19.838 because of my father's job. 00:03:20.521 --> 00:03:22.531 Third year, we were appointed to Ankara. 00:03:24.008 --> 00:03:25.498 My father was an officer, 00:03:26.579 --> 00:03:29.219 so you know the political issues. 00:03:29.219 --> 00:03:30.949 My father came home one night. 00:03:30.949 --> 00:03:34.510 He gave me 250 liras, which was the currency then, and said, 00:03:34.510 --> 00:03:36.593 "I enrolled you in the course. 00:03:36.593 --> 00:03:39.333 I paid for the first one. This is the second payment. 00:03:39.333 --> 00:03:42.073 You can have fun in a bar or nightclub with this 00:03:42.314 --> 00:03:44.594 or you can pay the fee, 00:03:45.233 --> 00:03:47.593 get into university, study properly, 00:03:47.593 --> 00:03:48.591 and save yourself, 00:03:48.591 --> 00:03:54.354 because I cannot give you a factory, a shop, a workbench, nor a farm; 00:03:54.354 --> 00:03:56.044 the only way out is by studying." 00:03:56.428 --> 00:03:58.138 That night, I cried until morning. 00:03:58.692 --> 00:04:00.582 I was like, "Oh, why does he say that? 00:04:02.292 --> 00:04:04.489 And why is our financial situation bad?" 00:04:04.489 --> 00:04:06.846 The next day, I was enrolled in the course. 00:04:06.846 --> 00:04:09.236 While I was doing the course, 00:04:09.390 --> 00:04:11.167 I began to get interested in theatre. 00:04:11.167 --> 00:04:12.507 I started watching plays. 00:04:12.779 --> 00:04:16.319 The first play - I didn't have the chance to go to the theatre 00:04:16.319 --> 00:04:19.599 because we were outside Ankara for a long time - 00:04:19.599 --> 00:04:23.578 the first play that I watched was in the Ankara Art Theater, 00:04:23.578 --> 00:04:26.198 "Sakıncalı Piyade" by Uğur Mumcu. 00:04:26.691 --> 00:04:29.541 I was very impressed, I really liked the theatre. 00:04:30.339 --> 00:04:31.980 It was like another world. 00:04:31.980 --> 00:04:35.472 Then I started to watch theatre once a week on the weekends 00:04:35.472 --> 00:04:37.542 when I went to class. 00:04:37.695 --> 00:04:38.960 Then we took the exams. 00:04:38.960 --> 00:04:41.605 The results didn't come in two minutes like they do now, 00:04:41.605 --> 00:04:43.528 we had to wait 2-3 months. 00:04:43.528 --> 00:04:45.016 While waiting for the results, 00:04:45.016 --> 00:04:47.922 I was walking down Menekşe street with my friends, 00:04:47.922 --> 00:04:50.158 and I saw the Ankara Public Theatre's signboard. 00:04:50.676 --> 00:04:52.746 At that moment, I said I would be an actor. 00:04:53.229 --> 00:04:55.819 "I will be an actor," I said. My friends laughed at me. 00:04:55.819 --> 00:04:57.371 I went, there were courses. 00:04:57.371 --> 00:04:58.651 I was enrolled. 00:04:58.651 --> 00:05:00.251 One month later, the news came, 00:05:00.251 --> 00:05:02.338 I had gained entry to study Physics at METU. 00:05:02.338 --> 00:05:03.349 Nice. 00:05:03.809 --> 00:05:07.529 So I passed the first stage for my father at METU, a good university. 00:05:07.749 --> 00:05:09.399 By the way, it was my 17th choice. 00:05:09.399 --> 00:05:10.427 (Laughter) 00:05:10.427 --> 00:05:12.647 We make 18 choices, mine was the 17th. 00:05:14.138 --> 00:05:16.148 18th was Language and History, Theatre. 00:05:18.340 --> 00:05:21.920 Theatre courses, METU, prep school, I hardly passed. 00:05:22.329 --> 00:05:25.659 My English was always bad, it was always a problem. 00:05:25.659 --> 00:05:29.699 By the way, in all those five years of studying Physics 00:05:29.699 --> 00:05:32.759 I never read and understood a question in English. 00:05:33.500 --> 00:05:36.890 Always guessing: if it gives the acceleration, it asks about the speed; 00:05:36.890 --> 00:05:39.110 if it gives the speed, it asks about the time. 00:05:39.352 --> 00:05:42.612 Well, maths was easy; when I saw "find the value", I could solve it, 00:05:42.800 --> 00:05:44.780 but I didn't solve them by understanding. 00:05:45.170 --> 00:05:46.640 Let me say that. 00:05:46.640 --> 00:05:48.694 I could hardly pass prep school. 00:05:48.694 --> 00:05:52.164 First year, as I said, I had fail grades on my academic record. 00:05:52.550 --> 00:05:55.780 My father thought the reason for that was my interest in theatre. 00:05:56.346 --> 00:05:58.396 But he had an interest in art too. 00:05:58.965 --> 00:06:00.584 He read poems well. 00:06:00.584 --> 00:06:03.274 He even wrote poems; at least he tried. 00:06:03.274 --> 00:06:06.924 I said, "Don't mess with my theatre and I'll bring you that diploma." 00:06:07.863 --> 00:06:09.515 Promise? Promise. 00:06:09.852 --> 00:06:11.922 That's the reason for my rebelling. 00:06:12.309 --> 00:06:14.309 In order to escape to theatre quickly, 00:06:15.502 --> 00:06:18.332 I saved my allowance by doing theatre 00:06:18.332 --> 00:06:22.272 in the Ankara Public Theatre and the Ankara Art Theatre. 00:06:22.567 --> 00:06:23.756 I did theatre, 00:06:23.756 --> 00:06:27.506 and as soon as I presented this diploma to my father, 00:06:27.707 --> 00:06:30.197 the first thing I did was to run to the Conservatory. 00:06:30.197 --> 00:06:31.815 I got into the theatre department. 00:06:31.815 --> 00:06:34.200 I swear, I graduated, ranking first again. 00:06:34.439 --> 00:06:37.599 But this time it was not like... I really graduated, ranking first. 00:06:38.001 --> 00:06:41.151 Then began the story of the State Theatres. 00:06:42.292 --> 00:06:44.033 I entered the State Theatres. 00:06:44.033 --> 00:06:45.673 I was appointed to Trabzon. 00:06:46.230 --> 00:06:48.200 In those times, I loved the theatre. 00:06:48.374 --> 00:06:50.814 On the first day when I watched the theatre, 00:06:50.814 --> 00:06:52.903 it was like love at first sight. 00:06:52.903 --> 00:06:54.283 It was like that for me. 00:06:54.283 --> 00:06:56.243 It was like a monster inside me. 00:06:56.699 --> 00:06:59.779 I couldn't sleep without it. Even my dreams were about theatre. 00:07:00.272 --> 00:07:03.694 I went to Trabzon as a graduate, an actor and an employee 00:07:03.694 --> 00:07:06.124 for the State Theatre, 00:07:06.124 --> 00:07:10.604 but I felt tremendous pressure because of my political views. 00:07:11.285 --> 00:07:13.645 Because I started in Ankara State Theatre, 00:07:13.645 --> 00:07:16.289 continued in Ankara Art Theatre, graduated from METU; 00:07:16.289 --> 00:07:18.905 so I don't need to say what was my opinion. 00:07:19.476 --> 00:07:22.116 I felt great pressure on me from the administration. 00:07:22.116 --> 00:07:23.616 Or I thought so. 00:07:23.833 --> 00:07:27.863 And I was interfering in all kinds of mistakes, injustices, 00:07:28.273 --> 00:07:31.908 and I was opposing them, I was an opponent, a rebel to the core. 00:07:32.145 --> 00:07:33.825 That made the administration angry, 00:07:34.035 --> 00:07:35.975 and they imposed many punishments on me. 00:07:36.510 --> 00:07:41.647 And I started to get tired, afraid, 00:07:41.647 --> 00:07:43.344 and I felt daunted. 00:07:43.718 --> 00:07:48.678 One night, I said, "There's no sense in dissenting and opposing so much, 00:07:48.678 --> 00:07:51.821 I better get along with the administration. 00:07:52.459 --> 00:07:53.669 I give up." 00:07:55.010 --> 00:07:57.730 Just then, I saw books I loved in the library. 00:07:58.465 --> 00:08:00.235 There were books by Nazım. 00:08:01.108 --> 00:08:05.848 I took one of them, Bursa Prison, and read it. 00:08:06.335 --> 00:08:09.175 He spent 13 years in prison, 13 years. 00:08:09.567 --> 00:08:12.947 There he wrote poems and sagas. 00:08:13.403 --> 00:08:16.033 He taught painting to the people there. 00:08:16.971 --> 00:08:20.181 He learnt weaving from them. He resisted for 13 years. 00:08:20.739 --> 00:08:22.809 And I couldn't resist 13 months, huh? 00:08:22.809 --> 00:08:25.186 How shameful! I felt ashamed. 00:08:25.186 --> 00:08:29.158 I said, "The issue is not about being captured, 00:08:29.158 --> 00:08:31.226 it's all about standing firm." 00:08:31.844 --> 00:08:35.174 And there, for the first time, I decided to stand firm. 00:08:36.663 --> 00:08:39.104 Then, while my life continued in Trabzon, 00:08:39.104 --> 00:08:41.344 Melih Cevdet Anday came to Trabzon one day. 00:08:42.130 --> 00:08:45.730 I was opposing the administration again. 00:08:47.108 --> 00:08:48.398 I was vociferous. 00:08:48.694 --> 00:08:50.594 It got Melih Cevdet Anday's attention. 00:08:50.847 --> 00:08:53.122 He said, "Can I ask you something, young man?" 00:08:53.122 --> 00:08:54.429 "Sure," I said. 00:08:54.429 --> 00:08:56.649 "Do you know Galileo?" he said. 00:08:57.165 --> 00:09:00.175 And I said, "Of course, I know Galileo, sir, I'm a physicist, 00:09:00.175 --> 00:09:03.449 and Bertolt Brecht's play about him was performed in Ankara Theatre. 00:09:03.672 --> 00:09:06.312 I've played in it; it was my first play as a trainee." 00:09:06.312 --> 00:09:07.378 "Well," he said, 00:09:07.692 --> 00:09:09.917 "do you know Giordano Bruno?" 00:09:09.917 --> 00:09:12.397 "Of course," I said, "there is a play about him too. 00:09:12.397 --> 00:09:13.445 I've read it as well." 00:09:13.445 --> 00:09:14.921 "I liked it very much," I said. 00:09:14.921 --> 00:09:18.411 And in the story I'm going to tell later on, I had the opportunity to play 00:09:18.411 --> 00:09:21.201 the role of Giordano Bruno in Ankara State Theatre. 00:09:22.277 --> 00:09:23.677 "Yes, I know him," I said. 00:09:24.044 --> 00:09:25.794 "So, which one is right?" he asked, 00:09:26.339 --> 00:09:29.349 "Which one do you approve of?" 00:09:30.038 --> 00:09:31.838 "Giordano Bruno, of course," I said. 00:09:31.838 --> 00:09:33.113 He said, "Why?" 00:09:33.113 --> 00:09:37.073 "Because Galileo had given up, became scared, took a step back; 00:09:37.984 --> 00:09:41.154 he said that the world wasn't the centre of the universe, 00:09:41.828 --> 00:09:45.901 but he took a step back when he saw the inquisition's tormentors, 00:09:45.901 --> 00:09:46.953 he purposely lied. 00:09:46.953 --> 00:09:51.482 Okay, he went home, and under house arrest he wrote his last work, 00:09:51.482 --> 00:09:53.512 but he still denied himself. 00:09:53.660 --> 00:09:55.220 But is Giordano like that? 00:09:55.220 --> 00:09:58.722 He resisted torture from the Inquisition for seven years, 00:09:58.722 --> 00:10:01.617 and they even nailed his tongue to his palate to silence him, 00:10:01.617 --> 00:10:04.424 but he tore his palate and said, 00:10:04.424 --> 00:10:05.620 'God is within every man, 00:10:05.620 --> 00:10:07.666 the world isn't the centre of the universe.' 00:10:07.666 --> 00:10:10.046 Of course, I support and believe this man." 00:10:10.914 --> 00:10:12.924 He said, "How old are you, my son?" 00:10:13.259 --> 00:10:14.549 I said, "28." 00:10:14.933 --> 00:10:17.203 He said, "Let's talk again when you're 48." 00:10:17.203 --> 00:10:18.366 (Laughter) 00:10:18.366 --> 00:10:21.966 I'm 55 years old, and thank God, I still believe in Giordano Bruno, 00:10:21.966 --> 00:10:23.386 I still defend him. 00:10:24.007 --> 00:10:25.877 (Applause) 00:10:29.185 --> 00:10:34.365 Of course, it's impossible for me to be as stubborn and brave as Giordano Bruno, 00:10:34.643 --> 00:10:37.770 but at least Giordano Bruno is always in my heart. 00:10:37.770 --> 00:10:40.948 And the day when I played the role in Ankara State Theatre, 00:10:41.519 --> 00:10:43.129 it was Saturday. 00:10:44.363 --> 00:10:48.033 I experienced something which caused me to appreciate 00:10:48.033 --> 00:10:52.853 the reason and determination of my profession choice 00:10:52.853 --> 00:10:55.273 and my persistence, my stubbornness. 00:10:56.086 --> 00:10:59.261 There were some lively youngsters there. 00:10:59.735 --> 00:11:01.265 And some of our friends said, 00:11:01.265 --> 00:11:03.685 "Some people brought along middle school children. 00:11:03.685 --> 00:11:06.005 This is a dense play, should we perform it?" 00:11:06.531 --> 00:11:10.449 Because Giordano agonises and is burnt at the end. 00:11:10.449 --> 00:11:12.569 He even tears his tongue while being burnt. 00:11:13.097 --> 00:11:16.147 "Never mind," we said, "let's do it." And we performed it. 00:11:16.820 --> 00:11:19.510 When it was over, some of the students ran to the exit. 00:11:19.884 --> 00:11:24.119 From their clothes, it was obvious they were from the slums, 00:11:24.119 --> 00:11:28.457 that they were poor. 00:11:29.758 --> 00:11:31.608 Well, they wanted to talk to me. 00:11:32.132 --> 00:11:35.752 They said the name of their school. I don't remember its name, 00:11:35.889 --> 00:11:38.509 but probably it was in a poor neighbourhood. 00:11:38.887 --> 00:11:40.817 I asked if they were from middle school. 00:11:40.817 --> 00:11:42.651 They said they were from high school. 00:11:42.651 --> 00:11:43.892 "High school first grade?" 00:11:43.892 --> 00:11:45.242 "No, last grade," they said. 00:11:45.242 --> 00:11:48.175 I said, "But there's a university entrance exam tomorrow." 00:11:48.175 --> 00:11:51.747 And they said that their teachers brought them here to reassure them 00:11:51.747 --> 00:11:54.012 and not to think of the exam on the last day. 00:11:54.389 --> 00:11:55.909 "How nice," I said. 00:11:55.909 --> 00:11:57.549 Then a girl came over ... 00:12:01.718 --> 00:12:04.598 I'm sorry, I find this really moving. 00:12:06.478 --> 00:12:09.598 She said, "I want to go to university, 00:12:09.598 --> 00:12:12.372 I know that it's important to study at a university. 00:12:12.518 --> 00:12:16.428 But after watching this, I'm definitely going to university." 00:12:17.544 --> 00:12:21.184 It was a record for me to gain even one person in this profession. 00:12:21.751 --> 00:12:23.011 The greatest success. 00:12:23.303 --> 00:12:24.773 (Applause) 00:12:31.500 --> 00:12:34.820 I knew I'd be excited, but I've never thought I'd cry. 00:12:36.000 --> 00:12:40.240 I really never felt the ebb and flow in my interest in theatre. 00:12:40.686 --> 00:12:44.136 I decided from the very beginning, I fell in love from the beginning 00:12:44.679 --> 00:12:47.539 and always loved it, because I believed in theatre. 00:12:48.318 --> 00:12:53.328 I believed that theatre would make me a truer, better person. 00:12:53.719 --> 00:12:55.059 I hope it did. 00:12:55.717 --> 00:12:56.783 Thank you. 00:12:56.783 --> 00:12:58.043 (Applause)