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Dialogue: 0,0:00:47.24,0:00:49.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,<v ->I don't generally think \Nabout large audiences.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:49.72,0:00:52.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think about, who would I like to show this to?
Dialogue: 0,0:00:52.28,0:00:53.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Who would I, that came over to visit,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:53.64,0:00:56.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,would I say, "Let me show you this"?
Dialogue: 0,0:00:59.92,0:01:00.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(sculpture grinds)
Dialogue: 0,0:01:00.56,0:01:02.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If it meets that,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:02.36,0:01:04.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then I figure a lot of people can look at it.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:04.64,0:01:06.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Okay, okay, okay, okay.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:06.04,0:01:07.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Okay, okay, okay, okay.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:07.48,0:01:09.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Okay, okay, okay.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:09.72,0:01:10.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All right, okay, okay, okay.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:10.48,0:01:12.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:12.36,0:01:13.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Okay, okay, okay.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:13.72,0:01:15.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All right, okay, okay, okay,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:15.48,0:01:18.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,okay, okay, okay, okay.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:18.44,0:01:20.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:20.16,0:01:21.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Okay, okay, okay, okay.\N(humming)
Dialogue: 0,0:01:23.16,0:01:32.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(humming and trilling)\N(camcorder beeps)
Dialogue: 0,0:02:09.60,0:02:13.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Last winter we had a lot of mice in the studio.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:14.90,0:02:16.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I got rid of most of them.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:17.32,0:02:19.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then I was sitting around here,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:19.52,0:02:21.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not having a very good project.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:22.48,0:02:26.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I set up this infrared camera at night
Dialogue: 0,0:02:26.88,0:02:31.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in different places, and see what happens.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:32.28,0:02:41.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I'm getting, oh, usually \Nthree or four different events,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:41.27,0:02:41.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Bruce chuckles)
Dialogue: 0,0:02:43.06,0:02:44.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,things happening with the mice,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:44.80,0:02:48.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a mouse or two coming through, and the cat.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:48.48,0:02:50.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so far they've never \Nhappened at the same time.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:52.20,0:02:53.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then every morning when I come in here
Dialogue: 0,0:02:53.64,0:02:57.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and replay what's been captured,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:57.92,0:03:00.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's like a little meditation,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:00.00,0:03:02.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because you can't really watch \Nany one part of the screen
Dialogue: 0,0:03:03.48,0:03:05.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or you'll miss something \Nthat happens in another part,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:05.52,0:03:07.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because it happens pretty \Nfast and it's real short.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:09.28,0:03:13.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So you have to kind of not watch anything
Dialogue: 0,0:03:13.92,0:03:16.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so that you can be aware of everything.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:31.78,0:03:33.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(footsteps)
Dialogue: 0,0:03:37.60,0:03:38.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is...
Dialogue: 0,0:03:42.20,0:03:44.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,oh, a project I said I'd get involved in
Dialogue: 0,0:03:44.76,0:03:47.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,probably almost a year and a half or two years ago
Dialogue: 0,0:03:47.48,0:03:50.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for the Wisconsin sesquicentennial.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:50.00,0:03:52.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it's a portfolio of prints
Dialogue: 0,0:03:52.72,0:03:54.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by artists either from Wisconsin
Dialogue: 0,0:03:54.80,0:03:57.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or we've had some lived in Wisconsin
Dialogue: 0,0:03:57.76,0:03:59.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or something to do with Wisconsin.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:00.56,0:04:06.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I lived in Wisconsin quite a bit of my life.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:06.36,0:04:10.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think I'm about finished with it.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:10.08,0:04:14.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I just wrote "Wisconsin sesquicentennial project"
Dialogue: 0,0:04:14.20,0:04:15.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on these three plates.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:17.72,0:04:19.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I didn't start trying to be an artist
Dialogue: 0,0:04:19.72,0:04:22.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,until I was a couple of years into college.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:24.68,0:04:26.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I've never understood \Nwhy I decided at that point
Dialogue: 0,0:04:26.84,0:04:28.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that I could, but I did,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:28.20,0:04:30.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because I was doing very well at the other stuff.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:32.92,0:04:35.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Or I recognized that I didn't \Nhave the passion about it,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:35.56,0:04:36.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,mathematics and physics,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:36.84,0:04:38.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that friends of mine had that \Nwere doing the same stuff.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:39.60,0:04:40.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I saw that in art.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:40.80,0:04:43.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And for whatever reason I switched.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:45.28,0:04:47.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I needed a different way to approach
Dialogue: 0,0:04:48.32,0:04:49.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the idea of being an artist.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:11.29,0:05:25.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(engine starts)
Dialogue: 0,0:05:25.86,0:05:27.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This runs an hour.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:29.72,0:05:32.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that's how long it took \Nto do what I was doing.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:38.80,0:05:41.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I wasn't sure, when I \Nfinished it, if anybody would
Dialogue: 0,0:05:43.24,0:05:44.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,take it seriously as a work of art,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:44.56,0:05:49.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I don't know how many \Npeople do, anyway. (chuckles)
Dialogue: 0,0:05:53.52,0:05:57.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It turned out to be kind of interesting to watch
Dialogue: 0,0:05:57.08,0:05:58.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and watch more than once.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:03.12,0:06:05.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In the studio I don't do a lot of work
Dialogue: 0,0:06:05.44,0:06:09.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that requires repetitive activity.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:11.16,0:06:14.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I spend a lot of time looking and thinking
Dialogue: 0,0:06:14.24,0:06:16.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then trying to find the most efficient way
Dialogue: 0,0:06:17.36,0:06:18.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to get what I want,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:18.48,0:06:20.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whether it's drawing or sculpture
Dialogue: 0,0:06:20.24,0:06:22.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or casting plaster or whatever.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:22.32,0:06:26.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But part of the enjoyment I take in it
Dialogue: 0,0:06:26.72,0:06:28.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is finding the most efficient way to do it.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:32.53,0:06:33.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(post thuds)
Dialogue: 0,0:06:33.47,0:06:34.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(onlooker laughs)\N(Bruce mumbles)
Dialogue: 0,0:06:36.84,0:06:37.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,<v Onlooker>Huh?</v>\NScared me.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:38.44,0:06:41.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,<v Onlooker>Sorry.</v>
Dialogue: 0,0:06:41.96,0:06:43.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Good job!
Dialogue: 0,0:06:45.42,0:06:47.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,<v ->And I don't have any \Nspecific step to take,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:47.40,0:06:49.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because I don't start the same way every time.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:51.28,0:06:54.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is knowing when it's enough
Dialogue: 0,0:06:54.44,0:06:55.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you can leave it alone.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:06.96,0:07:12.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And a lot of it's accidental, \Nthe result of cheap equipment.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:12.80,0:07:15.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Bruce laughs)\NAccidents.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:18.28,0:07:21.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The accidents kind of keep \Nit real too, and I like that.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:24.24,0:07:26.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But it's what keeps me in the studio,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:28.12,0:07:29.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,always being surprised.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:32.28,0:07:37.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So there's some joy in there too. (laughs)
Dialogue: 0,0:07:40.32,0:07:42.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When it all kind of works, and you say, "Ah."
Dialogue: 0,0:07:44.92,0:07:46.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Makes it okay.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:59.44,0:08:04.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(rope whacks)
Dialogue: 0,0:08:04.78,0:08:09.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(horse hooves clopping)
Dialogue: 0,0:08:14.24,0:08:17.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When I got involved with the horses,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:17.00,0:08:20.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I was in my 40s or \Nsomething before that happened,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:20.60,0:08:22.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and so I had to learn a lot
Dialogue: 0,0:08:23.60,0:08:25.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from people that had been \Ndoing it all their lives,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:25.32,0:08:27.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and so sometimes it's hard to communicate.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:31.52,0:08:32.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's been interesting for me
Dialogue: 0,0:08:32.48,0:08:35.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to work with these cowboys and \Nranchers and be around them.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:35.96,0:08:39.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And they're hard jobs that \Nthey do, physically hard jobs.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:41.92,0:08:43.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Good guys, take a lot of pride in their work,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:43.88,0:08:46.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they like to do it efficiently and cleanly.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:49.24,0:08:50.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's not different from the way
Dialogue: 0,0:08:50.28,0:08:51.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I like to work in the studio.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:51.48,0:08:53.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Even though the studio looks like a big mess,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:53.28,0:08:57.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I like my mind to at least try \Nand be (chuckles) efficient.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:01.00,0:09:05.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I really would have a hard time being here
Dialogue: 0,0:09:05.60,0:09:09.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,without that part of my life, just being out here
Dialogue: 0,0:09:09.84,0:09:12.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and having kind of a real good reason to be here.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:16.12,0:09:18.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's hard to not let it take up too much time,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:18.80,0:09:19.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because it sure could.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:21.08,0:09:23.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But the other part of me that's an artist
Dialogue: 0,0:09:24.32,0:09:26.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is not gonna be satisfied \Nwith the ranching either.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:27.93,0:09:30.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Some things flow from one to the other,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:30.40,0:09:33.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and some can't or don't.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:40.44,0:09:41.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This...
Dialogue: 0,0:09:47.76,0:09:51.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In the last few years I've been \Nworking on several projects,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:51.18,0:09:52.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or a couple of projects,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:52.16,0:09:54.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,well, several that involve the idea of stairs
Dialogue: 0,0:09:54.60,0:09:56.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or bleachers and stadiums.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:58.84,0:10:02.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was thinking about having a bunch of bleachers
Dialogue: 0,0:10:02.12,0:10:03.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that went up and down, you could walk up and down,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:04.80,0:10:07.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then inverting them and \Nhanging them from the ceiling.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:08.96,0:10:11.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's sort of like subverting the function.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:13.64,0:10:15.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I always thought that the idea
Dialogue: 0,0:10:15.04,0:10:18.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that you can make something \Nthat appears to be functional,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:18.52,0:10:19.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but when you try and use it,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:19.56,0:10:22.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you can't quite figure out \Nwhat its function might be.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:22.60,0:10:24.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that's, in the end, what its function is,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:24.60,0:10:26.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is for you to figure out \Nwhat to do with it, I guess.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:28.28,0:10:30.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In fact, they seem to be using it that way,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:31.36,0:10:34.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,eating lunch and just sitting out in the sun.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:41.84,0:10:49.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(footfalls)
Dialogue: 0,0:10:49.68,0:10:53.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is no regular rhythm to going up and down.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:54.08,0:10:57.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You have to take each step and watch it,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:57.36,0:11:00.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and so it requires you to \Npay quite a lot of attention.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:05.32,0:11:07.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm not even sure if you need to walk on it.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:07.72,0:11:10.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But, of course everybody does.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:12.80,0:11:16.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's the intention that changes it from a stairway
Dialogue: 0,0:11:16.44,0:11:21.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to a stairway as a work of art. (chuckles)
Dialogue: 0,0:11:21.88,0:11:24.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because I said so. (chuckles)
Dialogue: 0,0:11:29.37,0:11:30.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I studied mathematics for a while,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:30.64,0:11:32.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and one of the things that I always liked about it
Dialogue: 0,0:11:32.36,0:11:35.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is that there were things you could prove,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:37.04,0:11:38.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but they were just things you proved,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:38.48,0:11:40.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they didn't change the \Nstructure of mathematics any.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:40.80,0:11:43.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There were things that people have done and proved
Dialogue: 0,0:11:43.76,0:11:45.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that changed the structure of mathematics,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:45.84,0:11:47.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it had to be really clear,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:47.08,0:11:48.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and sometimes it was very elegant.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:49.84,0:11:51.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Having to say it out loud,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:51.16,0:11:55.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,having to explain what you're \Ndoing, forces you to be clear.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:57.00,0:11:58.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can't kind of just fumble through
Dialogue: 0,0:11:58.28,0:11:59.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and get something and say,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:59.12,0:12:00.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Well, that's what I meant to do all along."
Dialogue: 0,0:12:01.48,0:12:05.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is the part that I think about in my work;
Dialogue: 0,0:12:06.48,0:12:09.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,making sure that what I'm doing is really clear.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:10.28,0:12:13.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then it's available.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:14.08,0:12:16.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And those are the kinds of \Nthings that you look for.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:16.08,0:12:21.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You look in art, and this changes the structure
Dialogue: 0,0:12:21.00,0:12:25.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of how you can think about \Nart, and it's there for you.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:26.12,0:12:29.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And those are wonderful things
Dialogue: 0,0:12:29.92,0:12:31.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when you're in their presence.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:32.80,0:12:37.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So that's what we are looking for.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:37.28,0:12:41.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you, thank you, thank \Nyou, thank you, thank you,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:41.72,0:12:45.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thank you, thank you, thank \Nyou, thank you, thank you,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:45.76,0:12:49.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thank you, thank you, thank \Nyou, thank you, thank you,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:49.84,0:12:52.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thank you, thank you, thank you!