during the work on the previous machines i thought i knew everything i knew i was making a masterpiece i knew it was going to work i just knew it how come then the machines failed obviously i hadn't done my homework and there is a tool that called known knowns and known unknowns and i prepared this right here um i'm going to use this tool first of all i want to show it to you and share it to you i never used it myself but i've i've been showed it before as a risk management tool and right now um i think it's a great time to use it to decide what next steps to work on in this project and also to communicate to all of you that are following the project where i'm at and how i see um the most important parts and i've been trying to um explain to sir 3k before the stream and i didn't really do a good job of that so let's hope that we get some really nice information out of this exercise and nice next steps for the project anyway knowing what you don't know is a very can be very powerful and thinking that you know something that you don't know can lead you to making brilliant mistakes thank you my friend sir 3k is here to bring the hype and we're going to get straight into it so in this stream we're going to decide next steps in my design process through this exercise and um we're gonna do that in step two by filling out these knowns and known unknowns and i'm going to um already now i would like uh suggestions from chat different things that belong in different squares and uh two nights ago me and hannes had such a nice brainstorm so pretty soon in the stream i want to have a brainstorming session highest level on what this project is and especially the footprint of the machine if we should build a big functional machine or if we should build a smaller all-in-one that looks like the previous machines and then we're going to be done so i'm looking very much forward to this brainstorming session because hannes you had a lot to say about the project especially you you named it the dna on our project that stuck with you right what stuck with me is that sometime when i talk to you about the machine it feels like you have more insights around the machine than i have thanks to your perspective and i wanted to kind of have a little bit the same brainstorm discussion with you on stream and also with the viewers in chat so welcome everyone joining thanks for being here and speaking of perspective rosiro bertolli is in the champion of engineer yeah nice title the downfall of knowing more and more is that you realize more and more how little you actually know sometimes ignorance really is bliss nice to see you here sarah is socrates uh who said i know only how little i know yeah and um i think uh i'm so happy to see you here ro zero i think um most of you will agree that this started two days ago when me and hannes were trying to find old experiment i did on the machine x with timing of the marbles and i heard myself in the video sitting there this i think i'm making a masterpiece i think i'm making more space trying to be the hype man for the project trying to hype everyone up that's watching the video so this was like one and a half or two years ago and i just saw myself from outside when i saw myself like how little i knew and even worse how much i thought i knew that i actually did not know and maybe i'm going overboard right now but currently in this project i'm i kind of feel that the project is impossible and or maybe not impossible but um sorry let me go to the screen um i know that i don't know how to make this project do you remember an ad on youtube harness that was for the composer made the music to dune the famous what's his name meet your new instructor hans zimmer hans zimmer it was from master class and i was like meet your new instructor and he says there is a there's your question and i reply he said i never forget that in the ad and he said i don't know how to compose the music for your movie was one of his blurb quotes in in that ad for his masterclass of movie composition and music and right now i feel i don't know how to build a marble machine for all these years i thought i knew um but i didn't so let's get straight into it this is the good thing is that you have stopped being that naive hype man for yourself and you instead acquired another external hype man to sit and engage with the viewers and hyping you up yeah definitely and uh i'm so happy for that by the way and basically what i hope this exercise will lead to and i'm i keep on repeating i'm totally honest i don't know if i'm going to try to build this machine what i'm trying to find out is that if we can have a cad file that is promising enough to embark on that crazy journey and what i want to do so let's go to the next step on the list let's get into the nouns so what i want to do is that i want to take things are that one and the same thing i want to take things that are known unknowns and move them over to known knowns there are some special important ones that i think i want to talk about today so let's just get into a little bit on about this system and i just want to show you a website i found i never worked with this system but um i think this was a good um a website so i'm just going to give very quick uh overview how to use the nouns and unknown technique to manage assumptions um what assumptions are there that we know they have been validated what assumptions are there that we can know but have not yet been validated those are the ones i want to focus on in this stream what assumptions are there that we cannot know and they put this in this kind of square so i'm taking the words in this square from from this website it's a famous method and so quickly high level about each category known knowns known knowns are assumptions that have been validated and are now facts however it is important to note that known knowns are not necessarily static no knowns could change over the course of a project the price or a lead time for a certain component can significantly change the scope cost or schedule making them important to identify and monitor as a potential risk so when i say um when when i say here that i know the programming wheel how the programming will work so basically how i'm going to use this is that i want to show you [Music] the unresolved questions i have the the most important unresolved questions the known unknowns for um getting to the point where i know if the machine will be viable or not so um [Music] my known nodes now for example i just made some example is program a b change we have solved that we have made an assumption that we have solved that it can change but it it belongs in the known knowns category i have an assumption about how i want to make the programming pin i have an assumption about how i want to make the programming wheel three weeks ago i didn't have those so that's that's progress so let's check the second category the known unknowns known unknowns are assumptions that we haven't or can't validate most assumptions identified during project planning start in this category they can be classified into three types first assumptions that can become known knowns if they're validated that's what i'm going to talk about today let's get um straight into the third category unknown nouns and this is where i have to read to actually understand better myself here where known knowns and known unknowns are assumptions that can be dealt with proactively beforehand that's what we're doing now unknown knowns and unknown unknowns are issues that must be dealt with reactively which is very very interesting so in a design process we're only planning for the for the two top squares the no nouns and the known unknowns but we have to be prepared to react in a good way to the two bottom categories unknowns unknown unknowns so what are unknown nouns unknowns are assumptions that could have been identified as no knowns in the planning but weren't things we missed and they are now affecting the project unknown knowns occur most often as a result of poor communication a project manager knows that a certain township reviews permit applications only once per month but fails to volunteer this information or is not asked the next project manager working with this township experience the same pain point okay so let me try to just understand this category um the way they said it here is that i don't know but somebody does and they ain't telling [Laughter] it is things that can be forecasted but wasn't so we don't know it um but someone else does we should have known it is there any way that we can i can know what site this is on people want the link to it oh yeah the persimmongroup.com personal group the persimmon group.com and the dhe is in the same word the persimmongroup.com i should have put the link in the description if you can find it let's quickly look at the last square unknown unknowns chalk them up to murphy's law meaning things you can't control unknown unknowns are true surprises a project that encounters a major delay due to a political coup in the country where equipment is manufactured unknown announce should be shared through lessons learned for future risk considerations for projects as a known unknown force i wrote like in my um in my version here i wrote force major murphy's law and a famous stoic technique is to only try to focus on the things that you have control over and in that exercise um part of it is admitting and realizing how little you have control over in your life for example the stoic says that you have control over your goals for example so focus on what goals you're setting um so the fourth square down to the right we can kind of know that it's there there's murphy's law stuff can happen but these are exactly the events that no one can predict so that square is okay unknown unknowns http a stock material for programming wheel it's not an unknown knowns it should be up here in known unknowns if someone in chat has suggestions for anything i can put here in unknown knowns that relates to the mar machine 3 project i would love to because i can't actually think of examples it doesn't really matter because the business end of this live stream happens up here so why did i want to talk about this and why did i want to work with this today it's because i feel that this helps me point out what i need to spend my focus on from here so in this list here what are the most important known unknowns up to the right here i can't highlight it for you i can do that no wow thank you for that zoom um [Music] so the big things um which i think is highly important that we focus on now is machine footprint let's try to color that text red did i do it correctly i did but i want to make it really red there this is something that is on top of my mind instrument positions same thing there uh important double release gate to one hit point not as important for now pac-man or escapement gate not as important for now https stock material for programming wheel not as important for now marble size and material and so i put this in the same thing but it doesn't matter because i want to make them both red um bowden hydraulics cost and friction because let's start with the bowden cable um if it's true that a bowden cable have less enough um little enough friction so i can place a module on the side um and activate the mechanics somewhere and pull maybe a one and a half meter long bowden cable and it's fast enough for a marble gate and it's timely accurate that would open up a design space where we can have instruments far away from the programming wheel and i never worked with boarding cables i don't know anything about them so it's a known unknown i do not know if this would work for the machine um and the marble size and material like i bought some rubber balls and some wooden balls but i haven't really gone into it um and this will also if we realize that we want 40 millimeters marbles that will give a lot of um it will have a big impact on the future design of of the marble machine 3. and sort of interrupting your mark no no did you want unknown knowns from chat yes yeah let's start off with something here then from john h unknowns can cad demo the entire machine to validate functionality and marbles question mark that's a good suggestion john anons can cad demo the entire machine to validate functionality and marbles um so i'm i'm just thinking i think this should be um um this is a very good place to start i just think why is it not a known unknown what makes an unknown i don't know but okay i don't know what somebody does and they ain't telling does it qualify as an unknown known i'm gonna put it there i i like the idea yeah start with that and we have another one coming up can um physics physics seem validate the machine [Music] and i'm going to put that in black yeah and satish kumar unknown known the maximum marble flow rate needed for a song um i think that's a known unknown because if we go back to the website um let's try to understand that it's a good suggestion i just want to learn here let's try to understand the difference between known unknowns and unknown knowns because i'm a little bit not clear on that so known unknowns are assumption that we haven't or can't validate three types let me read everything assumptions that can become no unknowns if they are validated assumptions that can become no known at some point in the future but not now okay so we don't we can't access the information now but it can be known yeah it can be known in the future assumptions that can't become known knowns because we can't control them also that's things that always stay in that category the last type of no-no's those that can't be controlled flux in the price of fuel estimated weather delays for a construction project should be classified as risks in project planning okay so a shorter shortage of marbles globally yes marvel shortage because uh sudden increase in war machine popularity um so let's see now what ah so here it is i read it i had to read it again no knowns and known unknowns are assumptions that can be dealt with proactively um unknown knowns and unknown unknowns are issues that must be dealt with reactively unknowns are assumptions that could have been identified that could have been this is where i'm a little confused but aware and and is now affecting the project unknowns occur most often as the result of poor communication also so it's not that we so can you bring up the last comment again um so your suggestion here is uh i think it's a now known unknown okay marble flow rate i'm gonna make uh some smaller uh type so we can fit more suggestions um so marble flow rate is a known unknown because we can validate um and cookie crumbs unknown known is when you know the question but not the answer ah that's a good that's that that's a good definition when you know the question but not know the answer yeah i don't know what somebody does and they ain't telling so um yeah so this this is gonna be like part two of this exercise is to better understand the square down to the left because i'm a little bit confused about it and it doesn't really matter for now because i understand the first two and those are the ones that i'm working with but known unknown what are boo champ no not known what are the minimum deliverable product does the machine need the drums included um so that's that's a nice one i think there's something in product design called mvp uh which is minimum [Music] valid valuable valid product can you search for mvp in product development uh yeah not in sports um minimum valuable minimum viable product that's that's the word thank you so much minimum viable product i think that's what you mean people champ what are the minimum deliverable product that's minimum viable product i think that's exactly what you mean does the machine need the drums included um yeah so the minimum viable product is exactly what we're writing in our design requirements document um that's that is actually so i think this exercise will help me choose what to focus on and also explain to you why the thing that i'm researching right now in in my head so i'm going to try to choose some things and i'm going to try to take research these known unknowns and make it possible for me to drag them over so they become known knowns and i think when i have enough known knowns i will be able to make a decision if this project is feasible or or not yeah and i thought this was a nice explanation from doro or in other words our suggestions are unknown knowns for you as long as you aren't aware of them once you know about them they will go to known unknowns and that's interesting because you couldn't foresee yeah eventual problems because you didn't know about them yeah yeah and i think like since we're working in a digital file in cad i think like it will be much easier for for example the whole community to call out what for me are unknown nouns and tell them to me and so i can put them into known unknowns or even know nouns later so let's let's um let's talk about these four red uh things um [Music] before we're and actually that's actually where we're going into um i think we're done actually with the known step this is basically most what i wanted to show you is my relationship to these four red items marble size and material is bowden cables or hydraulic cables a viable option the the machine x footprint short if we can make if we're allowed to make it big i know i can make this machine work if we if we need to make it small and everything is convoluted and sit on top of each other i don't know if i even want to try to do it i also don't even know if i want to try to build a big machine so that's a machine footprint discussion and then instrument positions maybe instrument positions and machine footprint is the same thing actually yeah it's the same i'm going to remove the second one and i'm going to um i'm going to add instrument positions to marvel machine footprint it's the same thing um inst this is kind of interesting as well from the organ guy unknown knowns your current design requirements are too ambitious ah that's a super nice one um because that was exactly what happened um i love to show this you're so if we go back to when when i saw myself three days ago on a video and i was like god i was naive i was so naive and i went only on like adrena i was going only on adrenaline at that time my current design requirements were too ambitious for for my skill and um i know that oregon guy thinks that i should use also 22 tracks so maybe that's what you're getting at here unknown and i agree with you like the 37 double drop vibraphone with 174 registrators are kind of are perhaps too ambitious we and you don't know that until you know it so that's unknown so this was a fantastic example uh so i'm gonna write it here um current d r to ambitious i should probably not use abbreviations because we are too this is abstract enough as it is we're trying to go a mainstream evergreen here requirements [Music] photoshop is absolutely the the software to use for this presentation by the way definitely simple and easy to go to microsoft paint from windows 98 or something that we saw earlier today so so this is super nice unknown knowns can physics invalidate the machine current design uh requirements to ambitious or or or not um so i boiled it down to three things now marble size and material about in hydraulics cost friction machine footprint so now you know how i think about choosing next step and these red ones are the ones that i wanna investigate and if possible try to validate these three two known nouns and i wanna start today with a brainstorming session with sir 3k oh wow we're already there yeah we're there and you can keep on suggesting things to put into the squares but for now i'm gonna play a mall if i can it's important for me this is important for all of us here this is how we heard it ah that's where there we go oh yeah so this is kind of how i how i uh how i was before and the difference here is that is alan turing who says that and um no comparison uh otherwise between me and alan turing so um we are on step three yes let's see how to do this let's go to cad and let's just look at our craziness here our beautiful machine so sir 3k um we had a slide earlier that was brilliant um can we pick that up the comparison between the modular versus the all one design give me a second i think that's a great start to to kick this brainstorming session off i'm also gonna sketch on my sketch pad so i've had a like very pessimistic feeling the last days um yes hannes is getting annoyed with me because my hype is gone and i can't cope with that i just go on pure hope here i'm my i'm i'm zero hype right now um because i don't see a way forward right now and i and and what i mean is that it might be good it might be good that i don't think i know how to do this like uh what was his name the dune composer hanziman like hans simmer doesn't know how to compose the music for your movie i do not know how to design uh this marble machine so we're gonna show you a suggestion that was sent in um by a viewer um which is a very very nice rundown of kind of the two approaches the modular design to the left and all in one design to the right and i just wanted hannes sir 3k would you please tell the viewers about your feeling of the dna of the first machine and everything you told me the other day oh wow that's a tall order do you want me to remember that what was our discussion the dna i just need to get in that mind frame again the mind frame yeah but it's like um um programming language with frame and you're about so maybe that's why you don't have a mindset you have mind frames or something what we talked about yeah is that what is the marble machine actually like it's the cool thing that is one machine that has so many things like convoluted i hope i'm intertwined and it's it's like a rube goldberg machine everything happens um at the same time in one machine and it's kind of hard to understand how it works but it's kind but it works and it's like intriguing because it's this little small music box and out of it comes something big and huge and how much would that be lost if we went for a much bigger machine where everything is separated and if if we can go to um actually to the sketch pad when i find we don't we don't have to put the modules apart from each other um so if i can find um so yeah here for example so here's the modules this is a modular design and everything is apart so it looks like yeah that's three machines that's not the marble machine but we can have this mindset and put them into one machine like this so here here's bowden cables allowing us to spread out the instruments which is good for and we can also do um something that i think is the closest uh this one but actually vibraphone and drums would change place here do we have the wide mm3 uh slide uh i can find it maybe we don't have the keynote um never mind so i'm gonna give you your uh your the path here um or that or um what you were talking about is like the dna of one machine versus the modular design yeah and basically you said a lot of smart things about that can you just repeat them please can i just repeat everything i said and then i have like yeah here we have holdsworth hands also the whole in one is the spirit it is kind of the point of the machine and that's perhaps a little bit where i was going right when we talked about it and for me the dna of it all i talked about on the streams earlier as well it's like it's not a self-playing machine altogether it's the interaction between you and the machine also and that's why i get so annoyed when i hear mallet machine i know you're joking i have to provide context because that was the previous stream i even contemplated building a mallet machine instead so no marbles because it's formed from function absolutism but that's that i agree is too much of a step into a new family of something else go on as the chat says like the main spirit of it having it is everything in one it's not modular connected together a lot of like extension i don't know okay so give let me can you bring that comment up again i thought it was really nice um the whole holdsworth hands the whole in the in one is the spirit it is kind of the point of the machine so my question for you holdsworth hands i i love your comment uh let me draw something for you okay mac to me the coolest part is that it's one machine i'm in the one machine camp let me ask the audience something here to you kmac and to holdsworth and to everyone else if the machine was large so um so we have here alternative one this is the all-in-one that we know and love and that i don't think will give me the music requirements that i feel i need that's why i think but maybe maybe maybe like um organ guy said the current design requirements are too ambitious uh so so this is the this is let's call this the classic classic footprint and i have also here like this is kinda same as i think then perhaps marcus hoffman modular is a marble machine but not vintage marble machine that's kind of the same vein of the dna like the whole feel about it yeah so on the completely other side of the spectra let's make it i'm gonna draw it where can i draw there i'm gonna draw it down here um [Music] let's draw it like this we should look at pat mathews orchestrion because i think it's a i was a big badminton fan but that is a mechanical music instrument project that's kind of boring to watch and it's actually spread out so it's a lot of mechanical music instruments everywhere and um it's not entertaining in my in my um it's also media and solenoid controlled and you know how i feel about that um so down here [Music] and here's a comment that goes straight to my heart from kmac once again iron man 3 was lame because he had many autonomous machines the coolest thing about iron man is the man and the machine interaction be the musical iron man that's so fun that's that's that's good that's a good one kmac mr b fox 7075 as a lot of people also suggests previous machines only used one side there are three other sides that can hold instruments and i'm a little bit in this camp as well we haven't really really gone through the whole idea if you're going this way i'm going to go jean-michel circular on you all okay because because like the circular thing the circular thing opens up to me uh the iron man thing and also that you can have a stage podium that is actually turning slowly is actually really really not difficult um so kmac by the way there is a fantastic youtuber called kmac who makes guitar videos um and i don't think it's you in the comments but if it was you i appreciate your videos um one machine equals d machine several machines equals machine band members i would prefer the former rather than the later yeah so so look check this out we have a scale here from one uh down to three classic footprint completely modular um let me see if i can be a little fancy should i be a little fancy of course i should be a little fantastic this is what we're all about here so i learned that i can lower the layer opacity there then i'm gonna make a nice gradient everyone and while you do that andrew hill the brand just being brilliant here in chat supporting us with a nice super chat here and says it's it must solve the marble problem elegantly it does not need to be infinitely capable the elegance of solution is the magic yes i so much boom i so much resonate with this um sarah also great perspective this one here from r a ray been watching your videos for years i don't particularly care what form it takes as long as it's fully mechanical i resonate with that too friction finsness henriksen a modular machine looks like something i have seen before hole in one is something new and unique yeah the modular has been done right i don't know what i'm doing i just need some colors i think biebu champs said this earlier but this is also interesting just two modules the vibraphone plus bass as one and a drum loop as another then stack them they can look as one machine then if you finish the top you at least have a product even without drums so this is exactly where i'm going because i'm of course gonna present to you the middle alternative here which i don't know how i perceive and i'm curious to hear how you sir 3000 perceive this because here in the purple between the blue and the red wrong color so and i i'm i'm on edge i'm on edge two we have the broad i don't also have any space left we have the big all-in-one machine um can i please draw it somewhere where i have place so it's all in one but we have the drums here to the right drums and here's the vibraphone they're not on top of each other they're not intertwined and here's the bass guitar and here's me playing it uh so two is the big all-in-one yeah so sections not modules that's how i think about it you know sections not modules i don't need them to be modular separated from each other so everyone who has been like super clear about your relationship to the iron man i've also seen the movie when iron man is like you automatic bot go and fix this problem and i i you're right it's lame um so if i build this monster i think it would be like two meters wide so so let's say that this is one meter and let's say that this is two meter let's just say that it's double um i feel real i really do not know what relationship i have to this machine um what is it mainly that disturbs you with the wide solution so you know what 2a let's do a sneaky 2b you know what that's gonna be circular that's a circular microphone right here with the with the sp with the mushroom and the the machine to be circular sorry hannes can you repeat that question uh basically what it is that really grinds your gears with a wide machine how come that seems so distant in your mind it's like i'm scared because the machine has taken over my life completely and if i make it twice as big it's like it's physically intimidates me uh and i'm just like oh jesus christ switching a 2 meter long 90 centimeter like huge barrel i mean it's it's the most epic ever but am i just should i just make songs with fewer notes on the vibraphone because that is what what organ guy is intending when he says maybe the maybe the design requirements are um too ambitious maybe you don't mean it like that maybe it was just an example but so the magic of the first machine is its limitations and if i want a full-size vibraphone with 174 registrators the programming wheel needs to be quite big and to machine that i think we can do it but it's just it becomes this behemoth the circular thing would also be a behemoth yeah so what what what what does what shot what do you think about uh what is your reaction to the mid the mid alternative you see a lot of two b's and also stuff like this from sound or you hash the machine can be white but the prog wheel doesn't have to yeah i've been talking about as as well so that machine let me let me let me sketch that machine real quick um that's this machine and i structure like solution wise i completely believe in this machine um where where are the drums i put a vibraphone here with me here's the vibraphone sticking outside a little bit and here's the drums like that they have a loop wheel behind them though [Music] and i'm here so it's it's more spread out yeah and a steel skin 667 says the programming jump doesn't have to be that much bigger you just need a bit more room for the instruments that's the main quarry right so it's it's really not a bit more if we put the drums and the vibraphones next to each other it's a lot more um another idea a lot of people want to put the drums under the vibrophone and if we skip having the drums marble played if the drums are only loop played or recharged played by the programming wheel which has been solved today uh the spring recharge solution that's that's not for not a discussion now if we skip marbles on the drums uh and only have the vibraphone and the blaze base marble played we all of a sudden have we can make a tighter footprint all of a sudden it's it's just that like my like this limitation of notes on the vibraphone which we did the other day the decision matrix for um this is truly like and also having the big acoustic drums it's truly making a big difference and i mean you spent five years having not having space for my components so i i just feel like i don't know if i want to spend two more years trying to fit things into spaces where that doesn't exist no so that's a big no-no then you can't be too tight [Music] 3d printer academy just sent a generous super chat here saying are you completely against remaking more machine x with 50 less parts and complexity stephen so this is a great comment stephen thank you so much 3d printer academy uh i would have needed going to that school [Laughter] um since when i started trying 3d printing i thought i knew everything talking about the the the known the the unknown knowns and stuff like that um uh what's happening here okay yeah i went to the wrong wrong thing um let's go back to cad and let's check this there is no sound in the kick drum of either of these instruments in the room i can show you exactly how the kick drum sounds yeah wait can we do it in the action cam of course we can in the room the kick drum sounds like this are you ready for it yeah pretty much yeah i've heard it and remaking uh if we go back to the image here when i was touring with both my bands i used contact microphones a lot and i put them on under instruments and it's magical what you can do with a contact microphone so in an electrified environment you get a control that is unheard of i showed the demo in the machine x videos about signal to noise ratio i put contact microphones on symbols and stuff i just want to go away from that for my mu for my music career i just want to go away from this electronic contact microphone everything is fixed with plugins in logic i just want i want to build something that sounds good in a room so in my house in france when people came by and they saw the machine all of them asked me to play it and i owe your heart and i was just like [Laughter] i just need to set up my 100 microphones i was like i can't and even if i could you wouldn't hear it so what i would have to do to these people is here take a couple of studio headphones and let me just fix my hundred channels and you hear the live mix through the headphones and it was going to be amazing and live on stage this is how these instruments like live on when you go to big concert you don't hear anything acoustically everything is so it was a machine that was made for an amplified environment and i think that is like when you say do you want to rebuild the margin x no i'm not interested in making a machine where someone super excited comes into a room and immediately wants to hear the machine and can't i want to have the magic of the machine sounding pretty good in the youtube videos when i'm building it before i'm putting the microphones on it and it's sounding just even better because [ __ ] in [ __ ] out is an old musician stroke and it's so true and it's like when a chef becomes better with cooking the chef is not using like 100 million ingredients the chef is using fresh best ingredients possible and i'm so bored with like oh there's a rise in the stupid snare drum the rice belongs in the kitchen uh the snare drum i'm gonna buy off the shelf to make it sound like how how do we make a snare drum sound wait i have an idea i'm gonna use a snare drum i'm just so i'm done with it honestly okay yeah so no which means we need a full-size scenario we need a full-size kick drum which makes there's no space for a full-size kick drum on this machine um if i want a lot of vibraphone channels and maybe that's where like that's maybe the trade-off that i'm not mature enough to be able to make like maybe i just need to go down to playing like there is a song in swedish till paris i'm going to tour the whole world playing till parties till paris and that's the only song yeah there is from best cover version ever of till paris but that's the only song the the machine will be able to play um uh yeah okay i'll leave it there sir 3k help me out here another brilliant beautiful support a nice super chatty from andrew hildebrand yet again original form feels like another player on stage wide feels like a pickup truck a non-character participant go with human form reduce the range requirements reduce the complexity embrace glory yes that's a good comment that's a good comment uh so um i wanted to make this video because i think it's uh it's obvious dream because i think it's obvious that there is a big identity crisis in the project right now and it's good it's good we need to have that because the first two machines are too similar yeah okay so what about another constraint the marbles playing the drums i think it's kind of important that they do vibraphone next to the so then we have let's go to this sketch honest the 90 degree sketch uh i have a lot of sketch here here let's i have to take this away so this is kind of another like in between move og forum feels like another player on stage white feels like a pickup truck a non-character participant go with human form reduce the range requirements reduce the complexity embrace glory the mutual command i mean i maybe i i can play cool bass lines yeah you can i've heard them um oh what do we have here oh wow dynamic commander with a nice little super chat here two meters wide two times one meter programming barrel side by side for easier interchangeability keep one barrel for vibraphone one barrel for drums and bass that's one of your favorite cities thank you for the comment dynamic commander uh hannes can you pull up the mmx wide sketch uh i can try to find it yes because i think that's one of the um absolutely so the suggestion that we just made i can actually make in cad right away it's basically like this copy this and do this and by having this um separate it's you you you don't have to change the whole thing and then we need to tour with six six wheels and then we would actually move the vibraphone let's do that um i should actually do more in cad like this and then we we should actually move the bass um i'm cutting your suggestion right here this is this is it to me it doesn't feel like a non-playable character when i see it like this to me this sounds like the and and you know what's cool here we can remove this wheel check this out let me copy the frame um no yeah paste look at this machine on us i just made yeah you see now we are talking because this frame on this side wouldn't need to be that high um i should actually maybe do that so so with a bow and cable we only have six marbles to drop drop to drop on the drums over here um but with the bowden cable we only need to get six marbles over over there this and we still only need two wheels of course my depending on my maybe i still need to remove some note requirements what if i make this machine but i what if i make this machine but i reduce the number of notes on the vibraphone [Music] to just make it kind of not bigger than this and i should maybe put the frames together so it doesn't look modular and oh my oh my i hear another ring here and it's uh it's a question from fredward here you focused on the dream machine having everything you want what is the absolute minimum machine that would make you happy thank you so much for your support this is great fred ward um [Music] so we we talked we talked in the in the photoshop document where are we here we talked about minimum viable product mvp and i think um there are two different ones uh for the audience or for martin and of course what we're trying to do here which i'm so happy for is that we're trying to find like alignment yes um between [Music] and actually finishing something would also would make me i haven't finished anything in five years like and that's why maybe like to actually deliver on something sometimes you also just have to deliver um to actually deliver something but here's the kicker the larger i make the machine not not 100 true the easier it is for me to deliver in this setup everything has its own space um it's like maybe i should move the programming wheel into the middle a little bit let's move it there like is this is this a modular machine or is this one machine do you have the wide sketch yes and i just want to we got a another one here oh and now it feels like we're we're begging for it but we're super happy for this before he's so you're so generous everyone this means everything to us and it's from sliceosporta who else always with us love it large doesn't necessarily mean difficult it just means large if it can easily disassemble reassemble ship and transport who cares how large it is if it fits your requirements engineer the size to be easy to work with yeah i totally uh agree slicer sparta and and here's the wide mm3 we love this something about this yeah crafted by aura so question to you shot when you look at the sketch the wide mm3 do you feel that the magic is gone do you feel that or is the magic that we're making uh like the best sounding most tight acoustic mechanical music instrument ever played it's not fully acoustic with the electric bass sorry for leading question no no give it uh oh steelskin 667 looks like one machine to me um i just want to talk about another bias like that that that we do have if if we just go back to my favorite image here and yes this was nice i think from robert e can doll i think we the audience wants to know what you feel excited about yeah yeah currently currently robert i am um i am basically just pessimistic about the whole endeavor not about sitting here working on it that is so much fun but right now i'm just like i'm i've become i've become like a naysayer like from being naive i think i'm i'm just so scared about how naive i was before and how i unders i didn't underestimate a little bit i i was like in the wrong universe before so i'm so right now i'm i think i feel excited about reaching the point where i can know if i should make this project or not like i'm already doing one project the digital file but if i can build it or not and but then sometimes i get a tingle of excitement when i have 37 notes on a full-size vibraphone with double drops that i can program mechanically jack druid this is the one an abstract backpack if it works better it is better white equals good then so what was the image i wanted to show that's a nice uh comment as well from abstract backpack um oh yeah i know which image i wanted to show and hang on uh oh i have a new setup that's why i'm struggling this look what happened here from the first machine everyone loves it to the second machine i loved it so much i tried to build the same machine i don't want to repeat this mistake i i think if we really take down the design requirements i think we can build this machine and make it work but the question is do i want a mic a vibraphone that is 20 centimeters away from a snare drum and the answer to that is no i don't can i record the instrument separately in the studio and produce a fantastic album where i do as every musicians do i record track by track to make a nice album for spotify yes will it sound okay live yes so this is another this is another like thing can i this is actually super important design requirement when i make the album how much studio sheeting will allow myself to do and i think as any responsible musician i will allow myself to do any kind of studio shooting so actually this whole thing that i worry about now that's a snare drum is close to the vibraphone for recording the album it maybe doesn't matter and toby williams brings something up here being a naysayer is an important step it's on the way to success thanks tony that's kind of i'm digging myself down in my pessimism right now hannes is desperately trying to rescue me from drowning in pessimism and it's almost i'm flaunting how how negative i am now because i'm secretly a little bit proud just like you're hinting at exactly as too much kraft says here cheer up martin we'll be right there cheering you on all the way also sir h3k keep on [Laughter] it's so fun and what i love what i love now i'm always wanted to make this process transparent this process is happening transparently right extremely transparent together with you yeah i'm i'm i'm i'm for forgetting that we're it feels like we're here with friends who understands us it's a wonderful feeling um okay so if we yeah so this is a known unknown we're talking about the footprint to get everything to get any new viewers into the fray i think it's a word okay i just want to show what we did in the beginning of the stream to um we have identified what i think are the most important known unknowns we want we want to eventually move them uh to this side to make them known knowns and we're talking right now about the machine footprint and the machine dna and it is very obvious that the previous machines are so loved but i think there is maybe a trap there in the love for our old machines can you find uh on youtube patch methini's orchestrion project uh yeah soonish i am busy here reading the wonderful chat and as max no million says to make it feel less wide you could be the two drums not in a straight line so maybe like a 120 degree angle between them oh that's a good idea i mean and there we come also towards the circular circular things so and also here luis philippe ingrass wider means easier to make and easier to see things yeah definitely totally agree um can i move around let me see if it allows me i don't think so oh it does no it doesn't it only moves in a group okay let's see a bjorn guard i think it needs to be somewhat complicated to be interesting like a mechanical watch versus a quartz watch okay so that's in the dna for him mechanical watch versus a quartz watch yeah so so the internet i totally agree with you bjorn um the intertwinedness uh makes it exciting like how is it still working despite the fact like it's the antikythera mechanism like everything is so compact and close to each other but believe me we would this would still be so busy we don't have we have one percent of the parts on screen right now um i'm thinking you know what we had this nice comment about the drum placement i'm going to go and do some design actually and also here speaking about drum placements from red hot bagel for me some of the magic is in the compactness can you go more compact when drums aren't marble played yes if the drums aren't marker played we can go much more compact but then the drum loop is only 16 beats and with the marbles they can make variations which i thought was so magical um let's go over to the drum kit assembly and see if we can move things around a little bit and some perspective before i start looking for that clip you wanted me to look at one bald man bigger isn't always better just quote unquote easier look at nasa versus spacex oh i don't know i should know the reference um oh do you mean like the bigger uh like company or rocket i'm probably rocket like i'm going to move why is this like this ah this didn't end up well move this is a parametric designs i can actually move it properly by activating this and going down into my timeline you know what i'm gonna do i'm gonna do something here i'm gonna make a copy of this i'm gonna kill all the links so we can move things around freely in this design um i think that's the proper thing to do let me cut this off and let me cut this off let me go into this view so i should have prepared this i'm going to copy this one and copy i'm gonna open up this new sketch sketch one then we and i'm gonna kill so what you do is that you can kill all the design history in this copy and then i can kill the link to the other things i'm just killing all the design history so we can move the drums freely so let's do that super fun to brainstorm with y'all i've been longing for this break link and again the the thing with the the straight line is making it easier to um that doesn't work can i move it like this what was the hardest again you wanted me to look for oh it's because there's a rigid pap methane orchestrion project pat mathini while i love papathini um this is a good example of when the modular design becomes like i can show where i think the modular design has gone too far i don't think we can play the music but we can probably look a little bit on the video um [Music] an excerpt from the orchestron project perhaps yeah that's good i hope it's muted no that's mute why am i not allowed to move a single thing in this card there we also have someone again talking about let's see here hyper ban can you put registrators instruments on both sides of the drum it would need a different mechanism on the opposite side can you put registration instruments on both sides of the drum it would need a different mechanism on that side so that is possible for me that that that is this 90 degree example so on the ipad uh if we go to the sketch pad we are kind of looking at that and for me one one like pivotal design tenant is that if someone looks at looks at the machine i always wanted them to be able to look at all the action at the same time so let's say that if we wrap the instrument around one corner that should be possible um and and in this case if if the drums are here and these are the loop beaters this loop will will have to be 90 degrees uh facing this direction and the programming wheel this direction and we only have to have six channels with marbles i only want two here two here and two here so we only have to go over six times with six bowden cables over to this side you always love this didn't you sir 3k yeah here's all something we have talked about in different locations from jim heber or jim herbert to make the base more compact since the person will not handling the guitar it does not need the body all you need is the neck and strings and pick up slash electronics nice comment i said to hans the other day i'm actually prepared to use a stick base so let's go back to cad and so i want i really wanted like a cello shape and stuff like that and [Music] i just said the other day i'm actually con i actually prepared to do some um soul searching so let's cut this beautiful body away let's make our dreams let's dream some new dreams and let's not be bogged down by our old dreams yeah it looks cool but perhaps it doesn't need to be that way for and from function dipoles are nice i will just pull it up as well from b boo champ i agree with whoever said that they loved the way the mmx hyatt system worked that was magical no marbles involved and still magical oh like the heist machine yeah the loop drum will be it's going to be crazy cool yeah is it magical oh look at that i hate it yeah for now we hate it but space wise well we need still if we're gonna we play by more oh i figured out the other day uh by sorry i'm getting excited i figured we love when you get excited man i figured out a new pattern for the hammer jammer of the bass so here we're looking at the strings from the top um in the wrong order never mind and i thought the hammer jammer needed to be like this so eight hit points uh like this and they flare like this uh and one more but i think that if we doesn't want to flare that we could actually make the hit point something like this with the double because we need to invent a double drop anyway um so so then this t because i was thinking when we make the bass smaller so now you can see that the hit points are almost as as the string size almost um okay let's go to canned yeah and jockey monster asks here what about beaters for the drum like the bass and there are beaters on the drums beaters and marbles are getting dropped yes so i have them here they are ugly right now they're only there for and this these beaters are four times tighter than the marbles where on the marble machine x and arms were pretty tight so i'm expecting really good performance from the drum from the drummer and it will have like a solid foundation of the beat so so they're they are tighter because this loop wheel plays four times rotates four times faster than this wheel um [Music] and i actually thought it would rotate eight times faster but i realized that was even too fast um so where were we [Music] and i have another one to just throw out here because this is also interesting for one bald man curve the front of all the instruments drums in the middle split the vibraphone between each side think crescent moon machine is deeper not wider curve curved front curved front all the instruments drums in the middle split the vibraphone between each side think crescent moon machine is deeper not wider also like two flanks yeah drums in the middle split the vibraphone between each side so i'm i'm very much in love with the circular vibraphone like if like and if somehow from a footprint perspective that could be formed from function i'm like oh yes so crescent moon a bee boot champion i love this comment also hammer jammer was my suggestion by the way i expect either to be paid billions from a genius of the mm3 or a 50 discount on your canadian mm3 world tour concert fantastic bibo the hammer jammer has solved a lot thank you so much for that suggestion i would love to have an official like way to record all those little small contributions maybe that's something that the community can can start keeping track of without starting to climb on each other fighting for fighting for glory and being being enemies mortal enemies um yeah the hammer jammer is great um it's a deal it's a deal it's a deal the discount is a deal but no i'm not selling the battery before it's made this time no probably there will never be a torso so but perhaps we will tour the land of canada and we can't just go and shake his hand that would be fantastic 50 off for the handshake look at sir 3k who has a selling upgrade and is now selling handshakes that went fast i love it love it love it we sweets are not good marketing people we have to learn from horrible from our friends across the pond who are much better we think like okay if we if we just sit in our t-shirts people will buy that but that's an excellent way to support us is to buy merch from us look at the selling upgrade on this box my god isn't it beautiful where are we so this is such an interesting discussion we're having let's let's let's try to haul it back in um so i i the line of the drums uh i've angled them i've angled them a little bit like this now but the fact to have things at the straight line is just the the easiest way for all the dropping right not only that but also for the for the distance to the loop machine so it's the same action on the kick drum same action on this arm same space and everything okay but let's go to one of our images with a mushroom because another thing that wait let's go here let's go to the i can actually do that myself no oh wow double one so um while you do that i just want to put up here robert i think you focus too much on drums i think a really good vibraphone solution with the sorta working mmx base is a cool mvp drums can be added later i i i have that feeling as well robert i i have this feeling that like imagine going to a concert and there's an intro [Music] [Applause] [Music] all this is played by marbles [Music] no drums and then we do the program switch trick and it's still only marbles i showed this 100 times but what i mean is that this is why i want a full-size vibraphone it has to be a full-size vibraphone kimuton yeah and you know what b bootchamp accepts the deal [Laughter] wonderful vivo um fantastic and i just realized the marble catcher is also a red i just turned it red it's also a red known unknown and that's where i want to go to the circular um sketch can we pull that up sir 3k it's from the no wait i have it in my um sketch pad here because i sketched on the thing here oh yeah let's see there we go yeah so i'm very worried about the marble uh capturing because i think it's gonna look ugly and um to have to have like a circular cake thing around the whole machine and i come up like from a huge musical birthday cake um it makes so you remember yes exactly that's how that's that's exactly i wanted you remember the joke with the funnel how can you ever forget it right where did where where did we have it is it here let's get yes it's in this cad so we had this machine that we get in the beginning yeah um and then i said like that we solved the funnel issue and it's still as funny as day and i just mean if we go to that look at this and go over to the sketch pad it's the same yes it's a brilliant idea and it's it would just like it's a way to turn this design requirement of having something capturing all the all the um marbles into kind of something beautiful and yeah it's a sean michelle shouted i have adhd and love making music also make a founder with holes to make a circular vibraphone as i make a funnel with holes to make a circular vibraphone i'm first of all i'm so happy for your comment second of all i'm sorry your username didn't it didn't work out because i i failed with the mmx but this is mmxt it's mmxt touring version now i see it still on point and valid it's up to you martin to fail now also make a funnel with holes to make a circular vibrophone so let me let me sketch something about the circular design that has been on my mind um we're just brainstorming a high level here if we have a circular vibraphone the funnels can be much larger because they are on the outside of the perimeter so here we have one measurement but the funnels can be here and they can be much larger so with the circular vibraphone we could potentially go back to individual funnels which means that we could go to this feed only the red marbles into the red channel so there's a loop here which means that we don't need a marble divider so if it's true then we could um so green marbles goes to green channel with a circular design i have the feeling and if i sketch it from the side um i also have the feeling that we can take back the cool funnel design if we don't want the birthday cake so if we have this if we have the circular microphone here a lot of engineers will be pissed off if i'm going serious with this um that we can have like this and music funnels coming back to us oh yeah the flowers the the flowers that failed the first flowers that ever failed so i'm not drawing them so beautifully here but we get the point and we can have the move when collecting because thanks to the fact that this distance out here is much larger than the distance in here we could make the funnels big enough so they are actually not missing the marbles like on on on the old and then in this case i do want the plates to move and imagine that the resonator pipes would be this church organ style so they will be longer and they will be shorter like this i mean it's so beautiful true thing of butte it's a true thing of you and then pute and then we could continue with the drums over here like like people have suggested suggested um [Music] and then i'm playing over here bass there is something about this yeah a slice of sport also commented separating the vibraphone from the drums should make it much easier to play manually imagine moving from the base over in front of the vibe yes that's why i want the bass guitar next to the vibraphone so i can just stretch my hand and play like this of course on the circular it's going to be a little bit tricky a circular chromatic um oh brilliant context question for us here on vintage live as well chief asks here i love your channel i'm sure you've answered this but will these streams be edited at some point i know these streams won't be edited but over on the main wintergatan youtube channel we do weekly summaries of what we've been doing this week somebody got on live so here we stream everything the whole process and on wednesdays on the main channel we summarize what's been going on so if you want condensed versions that's on wednesdays on the main bintigota youtube channel thank you so much definitely thank you so much and i'm trying to reign in this discussion too maybe to get somewhere like what can we get out of this i really appreciate this discussion are you just gonna derail me a little bit oh yeah okay good so this is um all credit to path methini but this is why i don't want to use solenoids of course you have to go and look at it it looks like any music so this is a modular thing so pat is standing in the middle oh there's the mallet machine you're right i should not build a mallet machine there we go so they built all these mechanical instruments and they're standing everywhere apart from where pat is and they put a drum and they put a lamp i think on the drum kit so the lamp is lighting up when the kick is played i don't know if this this looks like it's filmed like any music do you think this was inspired by pipe dream as well and the 2013 2010 yeah it's after pipedream i think they have the tubular belts there and as you can see like it's um the piano is self-playing also the mallets and the mallets are actually obstructing the vibraphone did you see how they built it um from two sides there yeah um it's a little bit un unfair to critique sound music video with no sound but but the feeling that he so this is just this is the feeling that i don't want people to get when they go to our tour it should not be like it should not be so let's let's say that we have absolutely decided that it's not modular in the sense with separate modules standing far away from each other we don't want to build that it has to be one thing yep can you go forward to see if the drums um are playing so we can see the so see we can see the lights of the drums let's see if something happens here oh that's a sliding that's a cool thing though look how it's sliding i think it's making like chords and stuff i have to go watch this uh with sound after the stream um the self playing piano oh they have oh we have to check this out actually but yeah bringing that on tour that's easy oh there's a vibraphone so there's solenoids this is a solenoid party and like um and also of course i think the light engineer should have been fired before they filmed this video you cannot see anything no give give it just white light and this video would have been viral give it these like stupid search lights and how many because it's not interesting they need to do something with the light boom oh that's maybe how i love patent athena yeah that's that's really really cool it's taking everything back how many views does the video have three hundred thousand yeah that's why you have like not even one percent of the machine video because the lightning shows that's why you have floor painted floor painting paper from bltm in your music video that's how you make it viral folks look at the cookie swedes pat is wonderful i saw patmenting in plainlivens.com actually zg1 like a big organ register like left the base middle vibrate and right drums in a wrinkled half square like left bass middle vibrophone and drag drums in like a big organ register yeah i like this uh we called half square it's it's the it's a 90 degree solution i think so how do we summarize all our collective thoughts um first i just have more more here oh wow dynamic commander remember that the crowd watching the show would be placed on a lower height than machine catching marbles in front of the vibraphone will block view that's also very very very true um one idea that is interesting is if we can angle and i was thinking about that actually regards to that's a good that's a good thought so if we if we go to the sketch pad so say the marble comes down here if we make more of an angle this time um then the volume will be less but then the marble will move straight down right away i'm painting outside there um but then the resonator will be in and if we then have a circular arrangement these resonators will start to collide so they have to be far apart so so so they can fit good sketching here and that will also be very visual because then we can have the funnels below to not obstruct the view yeah i think on big shows we're going to have like cameras also on big screens and stuff like that but you do want want to see the machine yeah absolutely and a follow-up from chief here oh good thank you so much again just love your content and wish you the best seeing you working to achieve your dream is so awesome thank you so much i'm i am right now i don't know if this is a dream that it will be only a pipe dream or or if it can actually be something so where do we summarize where we're standing i wanna i wanna show you once again where we started um this and i think the upcoming week or weeks i'm going to keep on dive deeper in this i the bowden hydraulics means if we can put an instrument long further away from the programming wheel and the marble size and materials means how much width do we need between gates if i want big marbles like this 30 or 40 millimeters the gates naturally have to be more wide apart and yeah i don't know the mvp minimum viable product for the audience or for martian thing this is basically i start to really understand why people have said you have to write to sign requirements before designing so that's why i think in the upcoming weeks it's going to be a lot of sketching and a lot of design requirement thinking what do you think what what is what are your high level thoughts right now sir 3k about the design uh okay yeah i'm reading chat so much so i get influenced over there as well but i see a lot of uh like we talked about a hybrid between the two a and two b ones with all the sign uh yeah let's go back to yeah this is this is this is a good summary right here the 2a and 2b [Music] i i think where i'm sitting right now version 1 another machine x excluded version 3 completely modular patentee orchestrion style excluded big all-in-one sections not modules square 90 degrees or circular or a combination yeah i would uh we need to think about all the placement of can we play stuff on the side can we play stuff in the back safe space what is the time 1920 you know what i want to do i want to do i want to do a 90 degree as as fast as i can uh absolutely see if this cat want to work with me let's take this and let's turn it into a 90 degree thing because i think i can actually move okay i'm gonna give you a better better better [Music] 90 degree solution for the wind i'm gonna show you the 90 degree i've excluded it from my um from my mind toby instead of these four options one two three you could do something in between two a and two b in front a straight vibraphone off the shelf and on the sides a bit circular like the bass and the drums that's also very very interesting so there is something with this design it doesn't oh maybe it's because i have to save it hang on is that why i can't move things why why don't you allow me to move this i'm it's so strange i think satish kumar you should do a decision matrix on this ah interesting you see chad has also learned our viewers have learned now that's how you do the tough decisions do a matrix there's something with this there's something here why why am i not allowed to move things here this one i can move this one doesn't allow me to move is there a rigid group or something somewhere i can move this one but if i try to it won't go and i kill the design history maybe if i start the design history again fusion is not working with me no no so i have to copy it and paste it again i can do that copy the whanau atsalini thank you so much thank you so much i managed to do a workaround this is not this is not that bad this is maybe not that bad maybe there is something to this because what i really want is to not have things on top of each other so what happens now is i can you like it i'm starting to getting some minor goosebumps appearing minor goosebumps most of all the machine itself will become like an acoustic wall between the snare and the vibraphone um so i can put a snare on the side where the height is i this doesn't look bad and let me just put the snare in there hey little stick bass get over here get over here get your ugly face over here little duckling it's ugly duckling you know what i don't hate it no i know because when when you look at it from when you look at it from here there we go gmp 612 yes i love it hang on [ __ ] we need to [Music] angle this fusion please let me angle this okay so some some designs have some uh restrictions for some reason so the loop wheel did you see what i did i put it in a 90 degree angle because it has to be perpendicular to to the drums so and magnus surrender loves it also he has been posting suggestions i remember that name we recognize you among us from your great suggestions so so fun that you're here live um and this is pretty cool like imagine seeing this wheel turning turning like this and seeing this returning like holy moly you like it yes it has complexity without it being complex right because they're going to work pretty simple but it looks complex listen to circle 3k it adds complexity without it being complex wow so now i can move this uh friend in here esteban pratt perfect and this says it all bency all the smiley emojis um well it's a little bit of a joy joy joy calculation now because i don't know if we can fit that many programming tracks on this small wheel yes yes yes yes yes yes so let me try to make you all a little bit maybe less excited marcus off man finally what the chat has been screaming for days um that's fun um i'm going to just make the wheel a little bit larger i'm just going to put it out there mike kelly perfect perfect example of form from function okay yeah imagine this angle you're you're seeing like the drums play let me just make a pattern on this drum beater because that is going to make this this is gonna make people fall in love with this angle um so i'm just gonna do a lot of bitters here let's do 10 now let's do 10. sometimes [Laughter] uh i have to redo that sorry for this select directions this direction and i drag it out and we need let me just nikita kutsulev it seems very difficult to change the bottom wheel and that's the beautiful thing that is not going to be changed right yeah it is going to be changed it's going to be changed nikita you're absolutely correct um well let's work on that next time yeah that's something we have to figure out um yeah one step at a time this is just we're getting a feel of is this even possible yeah aesthetic wise and work wise i'm going to move the registrator assembly over to the correct position like there boom looks better and i want to base a little bit closer uh but maybe that's hopium and i really want to um i want two rows of the vibraphone let me let me at least look at it one last time here we go marvel machine three everyone thanks for watching now this is fun but it it's it's going to be [Music] it's going to be a lot of so the fly will you oh i just had a i just had a crazy idea i love those check this out because this flywheel is the proudest thing on the machine for me what if we move it into prime position it should probably be low but i'm going let me let me just entertain the thought so we're we're moving it up here oh like and because there it's like it's because the flywheel is the ticking thing inside a clock like it's it's the thing that makes this all this possible and i've been dreaming about showcasing this flywheel ever since i started to think about the machine i'm just gonna uh get everything else oh yeah and i totally agree with tessa here oh my god this opens up so much space for cup holders test size part t-rex a team t-rex test someone said that with a cup holder on the machine you would actually see how much vibrations are incurring are in the machine that is true tessa [Laughter] that's funny so uh with the flywheel up there let me just remove the flywheel down here i'm getting a little bit giddy over here it's almost like the circular thing without being circular yeah and of course like the top view [Music] the top view is just going to be gorgeous look at this yes yes and retro wave like with all the arpeggios like like we're on there [Music] [Music] but it's hope you maybe maybe not maybe not nice like camera action when you when you kind of fly here like it is fun actually it is fun what have we solved the instruments are not on top of each other that is that's that's something um desert pillar h3k excitement levels are on point for sure and you know what they are not faked at all this is just genuine happiness coming out of me it it's even more endearing for me in the room because hannes know that i've been tensed for two days so what he's actually happy about is that he sees me feeling a little bit better plus that i think you love the look at the machine let's turn the camera to orthographic then it's not so cool okay let's go back to perspective then see i unlike the stream to like it again that's that's brilliant that's a good place for a reminder from me if there are any new viewers please you subscribe to this channel so you get all the live stream notifications and also like the videos because that helps us tremendously actually so thank you so much for that unlocking and liking a gonsonator says flywheel should be lower for stability yeah yeah there are trade-offs to be made here as well but it's fun to explore this i've been hearing it in chat a lot and i've been thinking of it as well just to see the possibilities with this is exciting so regarding the flywheel i didn't think of it actually but you will really see it as well if it's down there where it was because um let me see the drive train i think it's this one i just have to locate it i'm going to put the old flywheel on here so when you're here if the flywheel is big enough you will sense it rotating behind the drums as well so maybe form from function it should be down there and as bee boot champ says you know what to say about incredibly dangerous spinning metal flywheels always put them as high as possible and ideally at head heights bibo i listened to you about the hammer jammer i'm not sure i should listen this time um well everyone this was [Music] this gives us all something to think about i think if we go back quickly to the sketch pad i think we're kind of in that middle section with this one yeah we're kind of in um it's actually the 2c let's actually let's actually 2c is the 90 degree tick tick tick tick tick in drums here i like how that last sketch is smallest so we're kind of in that territory now where um it doesn't feel module it doesn't feel modular it has it it has let's put this next to [Music] i'm going to take a screenshot of this here and then i'm going to open up let can you entertain the audience when i make one thing here what are you asking of me now that i'm at my happiest and foundations here says to me hannes please check the discord live stream chat for a suggestion i will take a look at that off stream uh where we soonish finished here so but thank you so much i will take a look at it okay i'm gonna i'm gonna do this and i'm just gonna prepare something for you all something to leave you all on a high note here yeah um lucas vandal says it by the way you don't need the belt's pulley to be on the same size of the barrel or same side of the barrel i think he means right and cypunk215 try different orientations of the instruments then rework the frame yes wow this makes me happy at least experimenting a little bit woohoo one second yeah it's going to be worth it i know it's going to be let me just do this and nikolas stabelini double fly wheel size and put it on the other side double it even bigger and i see a lot of people has uploaded sketches to dropbox and we will look at them perhaps off stream we can't always bring them up live here but thank you so much for suggesting stuff to us you are the greatest crowd to have and you're so kind and generous a lot of super chats today which is a a way that you can contribute to us since when martin closed down patreon and youtube members when the mmx was discontinued as we say super chats and buying our merch is kind of like the only ways to support us nowadays so thank you very very much we appreciate it especially very much especially since we're really professional with how we make that that sliding things around in the stream now sincerely thank you everyone here is where i want to leave you all today i've put a third machine i put a third machine and what makes me happy is that it's clearly not the same the same but you can clearly feel that they're related you know what put just hearts in my eyes right now you love it this is gonna be great yeah and what else is great is that having this process with you live is making me very much happy i went from i'm went from either skeptic to uh careful um carefully optimistic yes something like this and i'm going to mark this live stream as done thank you everyone for being so fantastic and we wish you all a fantastic day [Music]