0:00:00.560,0:00:02.079 during the work 0:00:02.080,0:00:04.479 on the previous machines i thought i 0:00:04.480,0:00:07.039 knew everything i knew i was making a 0:00:07.040,0:00:09.919 masterpiece i knew it was going to work 0:00:09.920,0:00:12.638 i just knew it 0:00:12.639,0:00:14.239 how come then 0:00:14.240,0:00:15.518 the machines 0:00:15.519,0:00:16.719 failed 0:00:16.720,0:00:19.519 obviously i hadn't done my homework and 0:00:19.520,0:00:22.799 there is a tool that called known knowns 0:00:22.800,0:00:24.399 and known unknowns 0:00:24.400,0:00:27.919 and i prepared this right here 0:00:27.920,0:00:29.198 um 0:00:29.199,0:00:31.598 i'm going to use this tool first of all 0:00:31.599,0:00:33.039 i want to show it to you and share it to 0:00:33.040,0:00:35.119 you i never used it myself but i've i've 0:00:35.120,0:00:36.799 been showed it before as a risk 0:00:36.800,0:00:38.959 management tool 0:00:38.960,0:00:40.718 and 0:00:40.719,0:00:44.159 right now um i think it's a great time 0:00:44.160,0:00:46.479 to use it to decide what next steps to 0:00:46.480,0:00:48.959 work on in this project and also to 0:00:48.960,0:00:50.718 communicate to all of you that are 0:00:50.719,0:00:53.599 following the project where i'm at and 0:00:53.600,0:00:55.679 how i see um 0:00:55.680,0:00:58.558 the most important parts and i've been 0:00:58.559,0:01:02.479 trying to um explain to sir 3k before 0:01:02.480,0:01:04.478 the stream and i didn't really do a good 0:01:04.479,0:01:08.158 job of that so let's hope that we get 0:01:08.159,0:01:11.199 some really nice information out of this 0:01:11.200,0:01:14.079 exercise and nice next steps for the 0:01:14.080,0:01:17.118 project anyway knowing what you don't 0:01:17.119,0:01:17.919 know 0:01:17.920,0:01:20.719 is a very can be very powerful and 0:01:20.720,0:01:21.919 thinking that you know something that 0:01:21.920,0:01:26.798 you don't know can lead you to making 0:01:26.799,0:01:29.118 brilliant mistakes 0:01:29.119,0:01:31.039 thank you 0:01:31.040,0:01:33.438 my friend sir 3k is here to bring the 0:01:33.439,0:01:35.199 hype and we're going to get straight 0:01:35.200,0:01:38.239 into it so in this stream we're going to 0:01:38.240,0:01:41.519 decide next steps in my design process 0:01:41.520,0:01:43.438 through this exercise 0:01:43.439,0:01:46.798 and um we're gonna do that in step two 0:01:46.799,0:01:49.199 by filling out these knowns and known 0:01:49.200,0:01:51.438 unknowns and i'm going to um 0:01:51.439,0:01:54.158 already now i would like uh suggestions 0:01:54.159,0:01:55.199 from chat 0:01:55.200,0:01:56.559 different things that belong in 0:01:56.560,0:01:58.239 different squares 0:01:58.240,0:01:59.519 and uh 0:01:59.520,0:02:02.239 two nights ago me and hannes had such a 0:02:02.240,0:02:04.319 nice brainstorm so 0:02:04.320,0:02:05.919 pretty soon in the stream i want to have 0:02:05.920,0:02:08.719 a brainstorming session 0:02:08.720,0:02:09.999 highest level 0:02:10.000,0:02:12.719 on what this project is and 0:02:12.720,0:02:14.318 especially the footprint of the machine 0:02:14.319,0:02:16.159 if we should build a big functional 0:02:16.160,0:02:17.279 machine 0:02:17.280,0:02:19.279 or if we should build a smaller 0:02:19.280,0:02:21.439 all-in-one that looks like the previous 0:02:21.440,0:02:23.919 machines and then we're going to be 0:02:23.920,0:02:25.598 done so 0:02:25.599,0:02:26.958 i'm looking very much forward to this 0:02:26.959,0:02:29.439 brainstorming session because hannes you 0:02:29.440,0:02:31.359 had a lot to say about the project 0:02:31.360,0:02:33.759 especially you you named it the dna on 0:02:33.760,0:02:35.119 our project 0:02:35.120,0:02:37.919 that stuck with you right 0:02:37.920,0:02:40.399 what stuck with me is that sometime when 0:02:40.400,0:02:42.318 i talk to you about the machine it feels 0:02:42.319,0:02:44.479 like you have more insights around the 0:02:44.480,0:02:46.318 machine than i have 0:02:46.319,0:02:48.878 thanks to your perspective 0:02:48.879,0:02:51.119 and i wanted to kind of 0:02:51.120,0:02:52.799 have a little bit the same brainstorm 0:02:52.800,0:02:55.119 discussion with you on stream 0:02:55.120,0:02:58.158 and also with the viewers in chat so 0:02:58.159,0:03:00.318 welcome everyone joining thanks for 0:03:00.319,0:03:01.759 being here 0:03:01.760,0:03:04.719 and speaking of perspective rosiro 0:03:04.720,0:03:07.039 bertolli is in the champion 0:03:07.040,0:03:09.598 of engineer yeah nice title the downfall 0:03:09.599,0:03:11.119 of knowing more and more is that you 0:03:11.120,0:03:13.119 realize more and more how little you 0:03:13.120,0:03:15.359 actually know sometimes ignorance really 0:03:15.360,0:03:16.878 is bliss 0:03:16.879,0:03:19.119 nice to see you here sarah is socrates 0:03:19.120,0:03:20.479 uh who 0:03:20.480,0:03:21.279 said 0:03:21.280,0:03:23.279 i know only 0:03:23.280,0:03:26.798 how little i know yeah and um 0:03:26.799,0:03:27.999 i think 0:03:28.000,0:03:30.399 uh i'm so happy to see you here ro zero 0:03:30.400,0:03:32.878 i think um 0:03:32.879,0:03:36.158 most of you will agree that 0:03:36.159,0:03:38.559 this started two days ago 0:03:38.560,0:03:41.199 when me and hannes were trying to find 0:03:41.200,0:03:43.679 old experiment i did on the machine x 0:03:43.680,0:03:46.719 with timing of the marbles and i heard 0:03:46.720,0:03:48.559 myself in the video 0:03:48.560,0:03:49.919 sitting there 0:03:49.920,0:03:51.679 this i think i'm making a masterpiece i 0:03:51.680,0:03:53.518 think i'm making more space trying to be 0:03:53.519,0:03:55.119 the hype man for the project trying to 0:03:55.120,0:03:56.719 hype everyone up that's watching the 0:03:56.720,0:03:59.039 video so this was like one and a half or 0:03:59.040,0:04:00.559 two years ago 0:04:00.560,0:04:02.639 and i just saw myself from outside when 0:04:02.640,0:04:04.079 i saw myself like 0:04:04.080,0:04:05.919 how little i knew 0:04:05.920,0:04:07.759 and even worse 0:04:07.760,0:04:09.999 how much i thought i knew 0:04:10.000,0:04:11.999 that i actually did not know 0:04:12.000,0:04:13.279 and 0:04:13.280,0:04:14.399 maybe i'm going 0:04:14.400,0:04:16.399 overboard right now but currently in 0:04:16.400,0:04:17.839 this project 0:04:17.840,0:04:20.159 i'm i kind of feel that the project is 0:04:20.160,0:04:21.839 impossible and 0:04:21.840,0:04:22.638 or 0:04:22.639,0:04:25.119 maybe not impossible but um 0:04:25.120,0:04:29.840 sorry let me go to the screen um 0:04:30.320,0:04:31.918 i know 0:04:31.919,0:04:33.679 that i don't know how to make this 0:04:33.680,0:04:36.319 project do you remember an ad on youtube 0:04:36.320,0:04:38.799 harness that was for the composer made 0:04:38.800,0:04:40.879 the music to dune the famous what's his 0:04:40.880,0:04:42.638 name meet your new instructor hans 0:04:42.639,0:04:44.879 zimmer hans zimmer it was from master 0:04:44.880,0:04:47.119 class and i was like meet your new 0:04:47.120,0:04:48.638 instructor and he says 0:04:48.639,0:04:50.879 there is a 0:04:50.880,0:04:53.599 there's your question 0:04:53.600,0:04:55.679 and i reply he said i never forget that 0:04:55.680,0:04:57.679 in the ad 0:04:57.680,0:04:58.959 and he said 0:04:58.960,0:05:01.198 i don't know how to compose the music 0:05:01.199,0:05:03.599 for your movie was one of his blurb 0:05:03.600,0:05:05.918 quotes in in that ad for his masterclass 0:05:05.919,0:05:08.638 of movie composition and music 0:05:08.639,0:05:09.359 and 0:05:09.360,0:05:11.758 right now i feel i don't know how to 0:05:11.759,0:05:13.839 build a marble machine 0:05:13.840,0:05:15.758 for all these years 0:05:15.759,0:05:17.359 i thought i knew 0:05:17.360,0:05:18.559 um 0:05:18.560,0:05:21.198 but i didn't so let's get straight into 0:05:21.199,0:05:23.279 it this is the good thing is that you 0:05:23.280,0:05:25.679 have stopped being that naive hype man 0:05:25.680,0:05:27.279 for yourself and you 0:05:27.280,0:05:30.159 instead acquired another external hype 0:05:30.160,0:05:30.959 man 0:05:30.960,0:05:33.439 to sit and engage with the viewers and 0:05:33.440,0:05:36.719 hyping you up yeah 0:05:36.720,0:05:38.559 definitely and 0:05:38.560,0:05:40.800 uh 0:05:41.360,0:05:44.079 i'm so happy for that by the way and 0:05:44.080,0:05:45.839 basically what i hope this exercise will 0:05:45.840,0:05:47.679 lead to and i'm 0:05:47.680,0:05:49.359 i keep on repeating i'm totally honest i 0:05:49.360,0:05:50.879 don't know if i'm going to try to build 0:05:50.880,0:05:53.038 this machine what i'm trying to find out 0:05:53.039,0:05:54.879 is that if we can have a cad 0:05:54.880,0:05:57.359 file that is promising enough to embark 0:05:57.360,0:05:59.198 on that crazy journey 0:05:59.199,0:06:01.119 and 0:06:01.120,0:06:03.918 what i want to do so let's go to the 0:06:03.919,0:06:06.478 next step on the list let's get into the 0:06:06.479,0:06:07.519 nouns 0:06:07.520,0:06:10.239 so what i want to do is that i want to 0:06:10.240,0:06:11.918 take things 0:06:11.919,0:06:15.840 are that one and the same thing 0:06:16.000,0:06:17.999 i want to take things that are known 0:06:18.000,0:06:20.478 unknowns and move them over to known 0:06:20.479,0:06:21.439 knowns 0:06:21.440,0:06:25.119 there are some special important ones 0:06:25.120,0:06:26.559 that i think 0:06:26.560,0:06:29.519 i want to talk about today so let's just 0:06:29.520,0:06:31.599 get into a little bit on about this 0:06:31.600,0:06:33.279 system 0:06:33.280,0:06:35.999 and i just want to show you a website i 0:06:36.000,0:06:36.879 found 0:06:36.880,0:06:39.999 i never worked with this system but um i 0:06:40.000,0:06:40.719 think 0:06:40.720,0:06:43.918 this was a good um 0:06:43.919,0:06:46.079 a website so i'm just going to give 0:06:46.080,0:06:48.638 very quick uh overview how to use the 0:06:48.639,0:06:50.399 nouns and unknown technique to manage 0:06:50.400,0:06:52.638 assumptions 0:06:52.639,0:06:55.039 um 0:06:55.120,0:06:57.519 what assumptions are there that we know 0:06:57.520,0:06:59.439 they have been validated 0:06:59.440,0:07:02.478 what assumptions are there 0:07:02.479,0:07:04.959 that we can know but have not yet been 0:07:04.960,0:07:06.478 validated those are the ones i want to 0:07:06.479,0:07:07.999 focus on in this stream 0:07:08.000,0:07:10.079 what assumptions are there that we 0:07:10.080,0:07:11.918 cannot know 0:07:11.919,0:07:13.038 and 0:07:13.039,0:07:15.359 they put this in this kind of square so 0:07:15.360,0:07:17.758 i'm taking the words in this square from 0:07:17.759,0:07:21.359 from this website it's a famous method 0:07:21.360,0:07:23.198 and so quickly high level about each 0:07:23.199,0:07:25.439 category known knowns 0:07:25.440,0:07:27.119 known knowns are assumptions that have 0:07:27.120,0:07:29.758 been validated and are now facts however 0:07:29.759,0:07:31.679 it is important to note that known 0:07:31.680,0:07:34.318 knowns are not necessarily static 0:07:34.319,0:07:36.399 no knowns could change over the course 0:07:36.400,0:07:39.038 of a project the price or a lead time 0:07:39.039,0:07:40.799 for a certain component can 0:07:40.800,0:07:42.799 significantly change the scope cost or 0:07:42.800,0:07:44.399 schedule making them important to 0:07:44.400,0:07:47.839 identify and monitor as a potential risk 0:07:47.840,0:07:49.758 so when i say 0:07:49.759,0:07:51.439 um 0:07:51.440,0:07:54.399 when when i say here 0:07:54.400,0:07:56.959 that i know the programming wheel how 0:07:56.960,0:07:59.038 the programming will work so basically 0:07:59.039,0:08:01.198 how i'm going to use this is that i want 0:08:01.199,0:08:01.889 to show you 0:08:01.890,0:08:04.079 [Music] 0:08:04.080,0:08:06.799 the unresolved questions i have the the 0:08:06.800,0:08:08.799 most important unresolved questions the 0:08:08.800,0:08:10.478 known unknowns 0:08:10.479,0:08:12.638 for um 0:08:12.639,0:08:14.318 getting to the point where i know if the 0:08:14.319,0:08:16.959 machine will be viable or not 0:08:16.960,0:08:17.899 so um 0:08:17.900,0:08:19.038 [Music] 0:08:19.039,0:08:21.038 my known nodes now for example i just 0:08:21.039,0:08:23.598 made some example is program a b change 0:08:23.599,0:08:25.439 we have solved that 0:08:25.440,0:08:27.279 we have made an assumption that we have 0:08:27.280,0:08:30.239 solved that it can change but it it 0:08:30.240,0:08:33.359 belongs in the known knowns category 0:08:33.360,0:08:35.278 i have an assumption about how i want to 0:08:35.279,0:08:37.199 make the programming pin i have an 0:08:37.200,0:08:38.799 assumption about how i want to make the 0:08:38.800,0:08:40.718 programming wheel 0:08:40.719,0:08:42.799 three weeks ago i didn't have those so 0:08:42.800,0:08:44.958 that's that's progress so let's check 0:08:44.959,0:08:49.519 the second category the known unknowns 0:08:49.600,0:08:51.679 known unknowns are assumptions that we 0:08:51.680,0:08:53.759 haven't or can't validate 0:08:53.760,0:08:55.599 most assumptions identified during 0:08:55.600,0:08:57.999 project planning start in this category 0:08:58.000,0:09:02.640 they can be classified into three types 0:09:04.160,0:09:06.879 first assumptions that can become known 0:09:06.880,0:09:09.999 knowns if they're validated that's what 0:09:10.000,0:09:12.159 i'm going to talk about today 0:09:12.160,0:09:14.559 let's get um 0:09:14.560,0:09:17.359 straight into the third category unknown 0:09:17.360,0:09:18.479 nouns 0:09:18.480,0:09:19.679 and this is 0:09:19.680,0:09:20.879 where i have to read to actually 0:09:20.880,0:09:24.320 understand better myself here 0:09:24.480,0:09:26.879 where known knowns and known unknowns 0:09:26.880,0:09:28.719 are assumptions that can be dealt with 0:09:28.720,0:09:31.679 proactively 0:09:31.680,0:09:34.879 beforehand that's what we're doing now 0:09:34.880,0:09:37.278 unknown knowns and unknown unknowns are 0:09:37.279,0:09:38.879 issues that must be dealt with 0:09:38.880,0:09:41.359 reactively which is very very 0:09:41.360,0:09:44.159 interesting so in a design process 0:09:44.160,0:09:45.518 we're 0:09:45.519,0:09:48.159 only planning for the for the two top 0:09:48.160,0:09:50.319 squares the no nouns and the known 0:09:50.320,0:09:52.879 unknowns but we have to be prepared to 0:09:52.880,0:09:53.919 react 0:09:53.920,0:09:55.278 in a good way 0:09:55.279,0:09:57.359 to the two bottom categories unknowns 0:09:57.360,0:10:00.399 unknown unknowns 0:10:01.040,0:10:03.838 so what are unknown nouns unknowns are 0:10:03.839,0:10:05.039 assumptions that could have been 0:10:05.040,0:10:07.278 identified as no knowns in the planning 0:10:07.279,0:10:10.159 but weren't things we missed 0:10:10.160,0:10:13.359 and they are now affecting the project 0:10:13.360,0:10:15.199 unknown knowns occur most often as a 0:10:15.200,0:10:17.359 result of poor communication 0:10:17.360,0:10:19.518 a project manager knows that a certain 0:10:19.519,0:10:21.999 township reviews permit applications 0:10:22.000,0:10:24.239 only once per month but fails to 0:10:24.240,0:10:26.639 volunteer this information or is not 0:10:26.640,0:10:29.039 asked the next project manager working 0:10:29.040,0:10:31.359 with this township experience the same 0:10:31.360,0:10:32.879 pain point 0:10:32.880,0:10:34.078 okay 0:10:34.079,0:10:35.359 so 0:10:35.360,0:10:37.439 let me try to just understand this 0:10:37.440,0:10:38.639 category 0:10:38.640,0:10:40.959 um 0:10:41.519,0:10:43.838 the way they said it here is that i 0:10:43.839,0:10:46.078 don't know but somebody does and they 0:10:46.079,0:10:47.289 ain't telling 0:10:47.290,0:10:49.119 [Laughter] 0:10:49.120,0:10:53.119 it is things that can be forecasted but 0:10:53.120,0:10:54.239 wasn't 0:10:54.240,0:10:56.159 so we don't know it 0:10:56.160,0:10:59.119 um but someone else does we should have 0:10:59.120,0:11:02.398 known it is there any way that we can 0:11:02.399,0:11:04.639 i can know what site this is on people 0:11:04.640,0:11:08.399 want the link to it oh yeah 0:11:08.880,0:11:09.639 the 0:11:09.640,0:11:12.719 persimmongroup.com personal group 0:11:12.720,0:11:15.039 the persimmon group.com 0:11:15.040,0:11:18.479 and the dhe is in the same word 0:11:18.480,0:11:21.640 the persimmongroup.com 0:11:23.040,0:11:24.398 i should have put the link in the 0:11:24.399,0:11:27.119 description if you can find it 0:11:27.120,0:11:30.479 let's quickly look at the last square 0:11:30.480,0:11:33.518 unknown unknowns 0:11:33.519,0:11:36.479 chalk them up to murphy's law 0:11:36.480,0:11:38.879 meaning things you can't control unknown 0:11:38.880,0:11:41.518 unknowns are true surprises a project 0:11:41.519,0:11:43.759 that encounters a major delay due to a 0:11:43.760,0:11:45.518 political coup in the country where 0:11:45.519,0:11:47.518 equipment is manufactured 0:11:47.519,0:11:49.119 unknown announce should be shared 0:11:49.120,0:11:51.039 through lessons learned for future risk 0:11:51.040,0:11:53.759 considerations for projects as a known 0:11:53.760,0:11:56.760 unknown 0:11:58.240,0:12:01.599 force i wrote like in my um 0:12:01.600,0:12:04.799 in my version here i wrote force major 0:12:04.800,0:12:06.159 murphy's law 0:12:06.160,0:12:09.199 and a famous stoic technique is to only 0:12:09.200,0:12:11.199 try to focus on the things that you have 0:12:11.200,0:12:15.119 control over and in that exercise um 0:12:15.120,0:12:16.559 part of it is 0:12:16.560,0:12:18.719 admitting and realizing how little you 0:12:18.720,0:12:20.799 have control over in your life for 0:12:20.800,0:12:22.239 example the stoic says that you have 0:12:22.240,0:12:24.719 control over your goals for example so 0:12:24.720,0:12:26.799 focus on what goals you're setting 0:12:26.800,0:12:28.958 um 0:12:28.959,0:12:32.398 so the fourth square down to the right 0:12:32.399,0:12:36.399 we can kind of know that it's there 0:12:36.839,0:12:39.759 there's murphy's law 0:12:39.760,0:12:42.319 stuff can happen but these are exactly 0:12:42.320,0:12:45.039 the events that no one can predict so 0:12:45.040,0:12:47.039 that square is okay 0:12:47.040,0:12:50.398 unknown unknowns http a stock material 0:12:50.399,0:12:52.479 for programming wheel it's not an 0:12:52.480,0:12:54.398 unknown knowns it should be up here in 0:12:54.399,0:12:57.200 known unknowns 0:12:57.360,0:12:59.919 if someone in chat has suggestions for 0:12:59.920,0:13:02.239 anything i can put here in unknown 0:13:02.240,0:13:04.159 knowns 0:13:04.160,0:13:05.599 that relates to the mar machine 3 0:13:05.600,0:13:07.278 project 0:13:07.279,0:13:08.799 i would love to because i can't actually 0:13:08.800,0:13:11.039 think of examples it doesn't really 0:13:11.040,0:13:13.039 matter because the business end of this 0:13:13.040,0:13:15.759 live stream happens up here 0:13:15.760,0:13:17.439 so 0:13:17.440,0:13:19.359 why did i want to talk about this and 0:13:19.360,0:13:21.838 why did i want to work with this today 0:13:21.839,0:13:23.759 it's because i feel 0:13:23.760,0:13:24.638 that 0:13:24.639,0:13:27.679 this helps me point out what i need to 0:13:27.680,0:13:30.799 spend my focus on from here 0:13:30.800,0:13:32.159 so 0:13:32.160,0:13:34.958 in this list here what are the most 0:13:34.959,0:13:37.518 important known unknowns up to the right 0:13:37.519,0:13:40.799 here i can't highlight it for you 0:13:40.800,0:13:43.198 i can do that no wow thank you for that 0:13:43.199,0:13:45.359 zoom 0:13:45.360,0:13:45.869 um 0:13:45.870,0:13:47.679 [Music] 0:13:47.680,0:13:49.039 so 0:13:49.040,0:13:51.039 the big things 0:13:51.040,0:13:52.078 um 0:13:52.079,0:13:53.919 which i think is 0:13:53.920,0:13:57.198 highly important that we focus on now 0:13:57.199,0:13:58.319 is 0:13:58.320,0:14:00.239 machine footprint 0:14:00.240,0:14:04.319 let's try to color that text red 0:14:04.320,0:14:06.799 did i do it correctly i did but i want 0:14:06.800,0:14:08.958 to make it really red 0:14:08.959,0:14:11.279 there 0:14:11.839,0:14:13.039 this is 0:14:13.040,0:14:14.078 something 0:14:14.079,0:14:16.879 that is on top of my mind instrument 0:14:16.880,0:14:19.359 positions same thing there 0:14:19.360,0:14:21.919 uh important 0:14:21.920,0:14:24.638 double release gate to one hit point 0:14:24.639,0:14:27.039 not as important for now pac-man or 0:14:27.040,0:14:29.759 escapement gate not as important for now 0:14:29.760,0:14:31.759 https stock material for programming 0:14:31.760,0:14:34.559 wheel not as important for now 0:14:34.560,0:14:36.638 marble size and material 0:14:36.639,0:14:39.198 and so i put this in the same thing but 0:14:39.199,0:14:40.319 it doesn't matter because i want to make 0:14:40.320,0:14:42.078 them both red 0:14:42.079,0:14:43.278 um 0:14:43.279,0:14:45.119 bowden hydraulics cost 0:14:45.120,0:14:48.000 and friction because 0:14:48.160,0:14:51.759 let's start with the bowden cable um 0:14:51.760,0:14:55.518 if it's true that a bowden cable have 0:14:55.519,0:14:56.838 less enough 0:14:56.839,0:15:00.319 um little enough friction so i can place 0:15:00.320,0:15:02.078 a module on the side 0:15:02.079,0:15:03.119 um 0:15:03.120,0:15:05.759 and activate the mechanics somewhere and 0:15:05.760,0:15:07.999 pull maybe a one and a half meter long 0:15:08.000,0:15:10.638 bowden cable and it's fast enough for a 0:15:10.639,0:15:13.359 marble gate and it's timely accurate 0:15:13.360,0:15:15.359 that would open up a design space where 0:15:15.360,0:15:16.638 we can have 0:15:16.639,0:15:18.078 instruments far away from the 0:15:18.079,0:15:19.838 programming wheel 0:15:19.839,0:15:21.759 and i never worked with boarding cables 0:15:21.760,0:15:24.159 i don't know anything about them so it's 0:15:24.160,0:15:26.799 a known unknown i do not know if this 0:15:26.800,0:15:28.799 would work for the machine 0:15:28.800,0:15:29.919 um 0:15:29.920,0:15:32.559 and the marble size and material like i 0:15:32.560,0:15:34.958 bought some rubber balls and some wooden 0:15:34.959,0:15:37.838 balls but i haven't really gone into it 0:15:37.839,0:15:40.958 um and this will also if we realize that 0:15:40.959,0:15:43.278 we want 40 millimeters 0:15:43.279,0:15:44.398 marbles 0:15:44.399,0:15:48.159 that will give a lot of um 0:15:48.160,0:15:50.398 it will have a big impact on the future 0:15:50.399,0:15:52.879 design of of the marble machine 3. and 0:15:52.880,0:15:55.039 sort of interrupting your mark no no did 0:15:55.040,0:15:57.679 you want unknown knowns from chat yes 0:15:57.680,0:15:59.758 yeah let's start off with something here 0:15:59.759,0:16:00.559 then 0:16:00.560,0:16:02.398 from john h 0:16:02.399,0:16:05.039 unknowns can cad demo the entire machine 0:16:05.040,0:16:07.758 to validate functionality and marbles 0:16:07.759,0:16:10.399 question mark 0:16:11.839,0:16:15.119 that's a good suggestion john anons can 0:16:15.120,0:16:17.278 cad demo the entire machine to validate 0:16:17.279,0:16:19.119 functionality and marbles 0:16:19.120,0:16:22.120 um 0:16:22.800,0:16:24.559 so i'm i'm just thinking i think this 0:16:24.560,0:16:27.679 should be um 0:16:27.680,0:16:31.198 um this is a very good place to start i 0:16:31.199,0:16:34.879 just think why is it not a known unknown 0:16:34.880,0:16:38.240 what makes an unknown 0:16:38.560,0:16:40.719 i don't know but okay i don't know what 0:16:40.720,0:16:44.638 somebody does and they ain't telling 0:16:44.639,0:16:48.559 does it qualify as an unknown known 0:16:48.560,0:16:51.039 i'm gonna put it there i i like the idea 0:16:51.040,0:16:52.799 yeah start with that and we have another 0:16:52.800,0:16:54.159 one coming up 0:16:54.160,0:16:55.278 can 0:16:55.279,0:16:56.239 um 0:16:56.240,0:16:58.078 physics 0:16:58.079,0:17:00.239 physics seem 0:17:00.240,0:17:03.739 validate the machine 0:17:03.740,0:17:06.078 [Music] 0:17:06.079,0:17:08.798 and i'm going to put that in black 0:17:08.799,0:17:11.759 yeah and satish kumar unknown known the 0:17:11.760,0:17:14.639 maximum marble flow rate needed for a 0:17:14.640,0:17:17.640 song 0:17:18.000,0:17:20.319 um 0:17:20.959,0:17:24.799 i think that's a known unknown 0:17:29.600,0:17:30.879 because 0:17:30.880,0:17:33.279 if we go back to the website 0:17:33.280,0:17:34.239 um 0:17:34.240,0:17:36.399 let's try to understand that 0:17:36.400,0:17:38.079 it's a good suggestion i just want to 0:17:38.080,0:17:40.239 learn here let's try to understand the 0:17:40.240,0:17:41.759 difference between 0:17:41.760,0:17:43.759 known unknowns and unknown knowns 0:17:43.760,0:17:45.439 because i'm a little bit not clear on 0:17:45.440,0:17:46.558 that 0:17:46.559,0:17:48.799 so 0:17:49.760,0:17:51.918 known unknowns are assumption that we 0:17:51.919,0:17:53.918 haven't 0:17:53.919,0:17:56.239 or can't validate 0:17:56.240,0:17:57.599 three types 0:17:57.600,0:17:59.599 let me read everything 0:17:59.600,0:18:01.359 assumptions that can become no unknowns 0:18:01.360,0:18:03.279 if they are validated assumptions that 0:18:03.280,0:18:04.479 can become 0:18:04.480,0:18:06.399 no known at some point in the future but 0:18:06.400,0:18:08.798 not now okay so we don't we can't access 0:18:08.799,0:18:11.279 the information now but it can be known 0:18:11.280,0:18:13.519 yeah it can be known in the future 0:18:13.520,0:18:15.839 assumptions that can't become known 0:18:15.840,0:18:16.959 knowns 0:18:16.960,0:18:19.678 because we can't control them also 0:18:19.679,0:18:21.519 that's things that always stay in that 0:18:21.520,0:18:23.199 category 0:18:23.200,0:18:25.038 the last type of no-no's those that 0:18:25.039,0:18:27.279 can't be controlled flux in the price of 0:18:27.280,0:18:29.119 fuel estimated weather delays for a 0:18:29.120,0:18:30.719 construction project should be 0:18:30.720,0:18:33.119 classified as risks in project planning 0:18:33.120,0:18:34.159 okay 0:18:34.160,0:18:35.519 so a 0:18:35.520,0:18:40.479 shorter shortage of marbles globally 0:18:40.480,0:18:41.279 yes 0:18:41.280,0:18:43.839 marvel shortage because uh sudden 0:18:43.840,0:18:46.239 increase in war machine popularity 0:18:46.240,0:18:47.119 um 0:18:47.120,0:18:50.480 so let's see now what 0:18:52.240,0:18:54.639 ah so here it is i read it i had to read 0:18:54.640,0:18:55.759 it again 0:18:55.760,0:18:57.918 no knowns and known unknowns are 0:18:57.919,0:18:59.519 assumptions that can be dealt with 0:18:59.520,0:19:01.359 proactively 0:19:01.360,0:19:03.038 um 0:19:03.039,0:19:05.199 unknown knowns and unknown unknowns are 0:19:05.200,0:19:06.558 issues that must be dealt with 0:19:06.559,0:19:08.558 reactively 0:19:08.559,0:19:10.239 unknowns are assumptions that could have 0:19:10.240,0:19:13.200 been identified that 0:19:13.440,0:19:15.119 could have been this is where i'm a 0:19:15.120,0:19:17.999 little confused but aware and and is now 0:19:18.000,0:19:20.798 affecting the project unknowns occur 0:19:20.799,0:19:22.959 most often as the result 0:19:22.960,0:19:25.359 of poor communication 0:19:25.360,0:19:26.719 also 0:19:26.720,0:19:29.600 so it's not that we 0:19:29.760,0:19:31.599 so can you bring up the last comment 0:19:31.600,0:19:33.840 again 0:19:34.080,0:19:35.359 um 0:19:35.360,0:19:39.119 so your suggestion here is uh i think 0:19:39.120,0:19:42.159 it's a now known unknown okay 0:19:42.160,0:19:45.759 marble flow rate i'm gonna make uh some 0:19:45.760,0:19:48.558 smaller uh type so we can fit more 0:19:48.559,0:19:50.159 suggestions 0:19:50.160,0:19:51.599 um 0:19:51.600,0:19:54.079 so marble flow rate is a known unknown 0:19:54.080,0:19:56.319 because we can validate 0:19:56.320,0:19:58.559 um 0:20:01.200,0:20:04.719 and cookie crumbs unknown known is when 0:20:04.720,0:20:09.200 you know the question but not the answer 0:20:14.480,0:20:16.798 ah that's a good 0:20:16.799,0:20:18.959 that's that that's a good definition 0:20:18.960,0:20:21.119 when you know the question but not know 0:20:21.120,0:20:23.199 the answer 0:20:23.200,0:20:25.119 yeah i don't know what somebody does and 0:20:25.120,0:20:28.320 they ain't telling so 0:20:29.039,0:20:31.440 um 0:20:31.919,0:20:33.199 yeah 0:20:33.200,0:20:35.279 so this this is gonna be like part two 0:20:35.280,0:20:37.999 of this exercise is to better understand 0:20:38.000,0:20:39.918 the square down to the left because i'm 0:20:39.919,0:20:41.678 a little bit confused about it and it 0:20:41.679,0:20:43.279 doesn't really matter for now because i 0:20:43.280,0:20:45.038 understand the first two and those are 0:20:45.039,0:20:47.519 the ones that i'm working with but 0:20:47.520,0:20:51.199 known unknown what are boo champ no not 0:20:51.200,0:20:53.519 known what are the minimum deliverable 0:20:53.520,0:20:55.999 product does the machine need the drums 0:20:56.000,0:20:58.559 included 0:20:58.880,0:21:01.038 um 0:21:01.039,0:21:03.119 so that's that's a nice one i think 0:21:03.120,0:21:04.798 there's something in product design 0:21:04.799,0:21:07.199 called mvp 0:21:07.200,0:21:09.759 uh which is 0:21:09.760,0:21:10.649 minimum 0:21:10.650,0:21:12.479 [Music] 0:21:12.480,0:21:14.239 valid 0:21:14.240,0:21:16.319 valuable 0:21:16.320,0:21:17.359 valid 0:21:17.360,0:21:19.919 product 0:21:20.240,0:21:21.839 can you search for mvp in product 0:21:21.840,0:21:26.479 development uh yeah not in sports 0:21:26.480,0:21:28.799 um 0:21:29.760,0:21:31.519 minimum 0:21:31.520,0:21:34.159 valuable 0:21:34.799,0:21:37.038 minimum viable product that's that's the 0:21:37.039,0:21:38.959 word thank you so much 0:21:38.960,0:21:41.279 minimum viable product i think that's 0:21:41.280,0:21:43.199 what you mean people champ 0:21:43.200,0:21:45.199 what are the minimum deliverable product 0:21:45.200,0:21:47.279 that's minimum viable product i think 0:21:47.280,0:21:49.199 that's exactly what you mean does the 0:21:49.200,0:21:52.479 machine need the drums included 0:21:52.480,0:21:53.678 um 0:21:53.679,0:21:56.399 yeah so the minimum viable product is 0:21:56.400,0:21:58.158 exactly what we're writing in our design 0:21:58.159,0:22:00.239 requirements document 0:22:00.240,0:22:01.199 um 0:22:01.200,0:22:03.359 that's that is actually 0:22:03.360,0:22:05.199 so 0:22:05.200,0:22:07.199 i think this exercise will 0:22:07.200,0:22:09.918 help me choose what to focus on and also 0:22:09.919,0:22:13.519 explain to you why 0:22:13.520,0:22:15.599 the thing that i'm researching right now 0:22:15.600,0:22:18.480 in in my head 0:22:19.120,0:22:20.239 so 0:22:20.240,0:22:22.798 i'm going to try to choose 0:22:22.799,0:22:24.239 some things 0:22:24.240,0:22:27.439 and i'm going to try to take research 0:22:27.440,0:22:29.519 these known unknowns 0:22:29.520,0:22:30.879 and 0:22:30.880,0:22:32.879 make it possible for me to drag them 0:22:32.880,0:22:36.399 over so they become known knowns 0:22:36.400,0:22:38.959 and i think when i have enough known 0:22:38.960,0:22:41.599 knowns i will be able to make a decision 0:22:41.600,0:22:45.279 if this project is feasible or or not 0:22:45.280,0:22:47.279 yeah and i thought this was a 0:22:47.280,0:22:49.359 nice explanation from doro or in other 0:22:49.360,0:22:52.079 words our suggestions are unknown knowns 0:22:52.080,0:22:54.879 for you as long as you aren't 0:22:54.880,0:22:56.798 aware of them once you know about them 0:22:56.799,0:23:00.798 they will go to known unknowns 0:23:00.799,0:23:02.558 and that's interesting 0:23:02.559,0:23:04.959 because you couldn't foresee 0:23:04.960,0:23:06.959 yeah eventual problems because you 0:23:06.960,0:23:09.519 didn't know about them yeah yeah 0:23:09.520,0:23:12.400 and i think like 0:23:12.880,0:23:13.759 since 0:23:13.760,0:23:17.599 we're working in a digital file in cad 0:23:17.600,0:23:21.359 i think like it will be much easier for 0:23:21.360,0:23:23.759 for example the whole community to call 0:23:23.760,0:23:24.798 out 0:23:24.799,0:23:27.519 what for me are unknown nouns 0:23:27.520,0:23:29.359 and tell them to me and so i can put 0:23:29.360,0:23:31.678 them into known unknowns or even know 0:23:31.679,0:23:33.119 nouns later 0:23:33.120,0:23:34.639 so let's 0:23:34.640,0:23:38.719 let's um let's talk about these four red 0:23:38.720,0:23:40.639 uh things 0:23:40.640,0:23:41.139 um 0:23:41.140,0:23:43.599 [Music] 0:23:43.600,0:23:44.959 before 0:23:44.960,0:23:46.719 we're and actually that's actually where 0:23:46.720,0:23:48.719 we're going into 0:23:48.720,0:23:50.719 um i think we're done actually with the 0:23:50.720,0:23:54.799 known step this is basically 0:23:55.039,0:23:56.879 most what i wanted to show you is my 0:23:56.880,0:23:59.199 relationship to these four red items 0:23:59.200,0:24:01.839 marble size and material 0:24:01.840,0:24:04.959 is bowden cables or hydraulic cables a 0:24:04.960,0:24:07.038 viable option 0:24:07.039,0:24:09.759 the the machine x footprint 0:24:09.760,0:24:11.918 short if we can make if we're allowed to 0:24:11.919,0:24:14.239 make it big i know i can make this 0:24:14.240,0:24:16.719 machine work if we if we need to make it 0:24:16.720,0:24:18.319 small and everything is convoluted and 0:24:18.320,0:24:20.399 sit on top of each other 0:24:20.400,0:24:22.079 i don't know if i even want to try to do 0:24:22.080,0:24:23.759 it i also don't even know if i want to 0:24:23.760,0:24:25.519 try to build a big machine 0:24:25.520,0:24:27.278 so that's a machine footprint discussion 0:24:27.279,0:24:30.479 and then instrument positions 0:24:30.480,0:24:32.479 maybe instrument positions and machine 0:24:32.480,0:24:35.038 footprint is the same thing actually 0:24:35.039,0:24:37.759 yeah it's the same i'm going to remove 0:24:37.760,0:24:39.439 the second one 0:24:39.440,0:24:43.199 and i'm going to um i'm going to add 0:24:43.200,0:24:45.278 instrument positions to marvel 0:24:45.279,0:24:47.359 machine footprint 0:24:47.360,0:24:49.678 it's the same thing 0:24:49.679,0:24:51.839 um 0:24:51.840,0:24:54.400 inst 0:24:55.600,0:24:57.119 this is kind of interesting as well from 0:24:57.120,0:24:59.678 the organ guy unknown knowns your 0:24:59.679,0:25:01.759 current design requirements are too 0:25:01.760,0:25:04.400 ambitious 0:25:06.799,0:25:10.798 ah that's a super nice one um 0:25:10.799,0:25:12.558 because that was 0:25:12.559,0:25:14.798 exactly what happened 0:25:14.799,0:25:16.158 um 0:25:16.159,0:25:19.120 i love to show this 0:25:19.760,0:25:20.879 you're 0:25:20.880,0:25:23.119 so if we go back to when when i saw 0:25:23.120,0:25:25.359 myself three days ago on a video and i 0:25:25.360,0:25:29.119 was like god i was naive i was so naive 0:25:29.120,0:25:31.199 and i went only on like adrena i was 0:25:31.200,0:25:34.079 going only on adrenaline at that time my 0:25:34.080,0:25:35.759 current design requirements were too 0:25:35.760,0:25:37.599 ambitious for 0:25:37.600,0:25:39.199 for my skill 0:25:39.200,0:25:41.119 and um 0:25:41.120,0:25:42.798 i know that oregon guy thinks that i 0:25:42.799,0:25:44.719 should use also 22 tracks so maybe 0:25:44.720,0:25:46.719 that's what you're getting at here 0:25:46.720,0:25:48.079 unknown 0:25:48.080,0:25:50.558 and i agree with you like the 37 double 0:25:50.559,0:25:54.239 drop vibraphone with 174 registrators 0:25:54.240,0:25:57.199 are kind of are perhaps too ambitious we 0:25:57.200,0:25:59.359 and you don't know that until you know 0:25:59.360,0:26:02.239 it so that's unknown so this was a 0:26:02.240,0:26:04.879 fantastic example uh so i'm gonna write 0:26:04.880,0:26:06.719 it here 0:26:06.720,0:26:09.720 um 0:26:13.520,0:26:15.038 current 0:26:15.039,0:26:18.000 d r 0:26:18.159,0:26:19.119 to 0:26:19.120,0:26:22.080 ambitious 0:26:22.320,0:26:25.359 i should probably not use abbreviations 0:26:25.360,0:26:26.319 because 0:26:26.320,0:26:29.038 we are too this is abstract enough as it 0:26:29.039,0:26:30.399 is 0:26:30.400,0:26:31.999 we're trying to go a mainstream 0:26:32.000,0:26:34.719 evergreen here 0:26:34.720,0:26:37.720 requirements 0:26:42.390,0:26:45.678 [Music] 0:26:45.679,0:26:47.999 photoshop is absolutely the the software 0:26:48.000,0:26:51.599 to use for this presentation by the way 0:26:51.600,0:26:54.639 definitely simple and easy 0:26:54.640,0:26:57.599 to go to microsoft paint 0:26:57.600,0:27:00.158 from windows 0:27:00.159,0:27:02.239 98 or something that we saw earlier 0:27:02.240,0:27:04.559 today 0:27:04.640,0:27:08.319 so so this is super nice unknown knowns 0:27:08.320,0:27:10.558 can physics invalidate the machine 0:27:10.559,0:27:13.359 current design uh requirements to 0:27:13.360,0:27:16.719 ambitious or or or not 0:27:16.720,0:27:19.039 um 0:27:19.120,0:27:21.678 so i boiled it down 0:27:21.679,0:27:23.038 to 0:27:23.039,0:27:25.119 three 0:27:25.120,0:27:26.959 things now marble size and material 0:27:26.960,0:27:29.439 about in hydraulics cost friction 0:27:29.440,0:27:31.359 machine footprint 0:27:31.360,0:27:33.519 so 0:27:33.520,0:27:35.599 now you know how i think about 0:27:35.600,0:27:38.079 choosing next step and these red ones 0:27:38.080,0:27:40.639 are the ones that i wanna investigate 0:27:40.640,0:27:43.038 and if possible try to validate these 0:27:43.039,0:27:45.839 three two known nouns 0:27:45.840,0:27:48.398 and i wanna start today with a 0:27:48.399,0:27:51.999 brainstorming session with sir 3k oh wow 0:27:52.000,0:27:54.319 we're already there yeah we're there and 0:27:54.320,0:27:56.079 you can keep on suggesting 0:27:56.080,0:27:58.239 things to put into the squares but for 0:27:58.240,0:28:01.199 now i'm gonna play a mall if i can 0:28:01.200,0:28:02.959 it's important for me 0:28:02.960,0:28:05.439 this is important for all of us 0:28:05.440,0:28:08.639 here this is how we heard it 0:28:08.640,0:28:13.119 ah that's where there we go 0:28:13.120,0:28:15.038 oh yeah so 0:28:15.039,0:28:19.999 this is kind of how i how i uh how i was 0:28:20.000,0:28:22.320 before 0:28:25.279,0:28:26.959 and the difference here is that is alan 0:28:26.960,0:28:29.678 turing who says that 0:28:29.679,0:28:31.119 and um 0:28:31.120,0:28:32.639 no comparison 0:28:32.640,0:28:35.519 uh otherwise between me and alan turing 0:28:35.520,0:28:38.398 so um we are on step three 0:28:38.399,0:28:41.999 yes let's see how to do this let's go to 0:28:42.000,0:28:46.239 cad and let's just look at our craziness 0:28:46.240,0:28:48.959 here our beautiful machine 0:28:48.960,0:28:51.839 so sir 3k um 0:28:51.840,0:28:54.558 we had a slide earlier that was 0:28:54.559,0:28:57.918 brilliant um can we pick that up the 0:28:57.919,0:29:00.239 comparison between the modular versus 0:29:00.240,0:29:01.599 the all 0:29:01.600,0:29:02.879 one design 0:29:02.880,0:29:05.038 give me a second i think that's a great 0:29:05.039,0:29:07.519 start to to kick this brainstorming 0:29:07.520,0:29:08.639 session off 0:29:08.640,0:29:13.840 i'm also gonna sketch on my sketch pad 0:29:16.640,0:29:18.239 so i've had a 0:29:18.240,0:29:20.480 like 0:29:21.279,0:29:23.759 very pessimistic feeling the last days 0:29:23.760,0:29:25.119 um 0:29:25.120,0:29:26.879 yes 0:29:26.880,0:29:28.319 hannes is getting annoyed with me 0:29:28.320,0:29:30.558 because my hype is gone 0:29:30.559,0:29:33.359 and i can't cope with that i just go on 0:29:33.360,0:29:36.158 pure hope here 0:29:36.159,0:29:40.239 i'm my i'm i'm zero hype right now um 0:29:40.240,0:29:42.719 because i don't see a way forward right 0:29:42.720,0:29:47.439 now and i and and what i mean is that it 0:29:47.440,0:29:49.519 might be good it might be good that i 0:29:49.520,0:29:51.439 don't think i know how to do this 0:29:51.440,0:29:53.359 like uh what was his name the dune 0:29:53.360,0:29:54.558 composer 0:29:54.559,0:29:56.719 hanziman like hans simmer doesn't know 0:29:56.720,0:29:59.038 how to compose the music for your movie 0:29:59.039,0:30:01.359 i do not know how to design uh this 0:30:01.360,0:30:04.080 marble machine 0:30:06.640,0:30:09.439 so we're gonna show you a 0:30:09.440,0:30:12.639 suggestion that was sent in um 0:30:12.640,0:30:14.479 by a viewer 0:30:14.480,0:30:16.319 um which is a 0:30:16.320,0:30:18.879 very very nice rundown 0:30:18.880,0:30:20.239 of kind of 0:30:20.240,0:30:22.398 the two approaches the modular design to 0:30:22.399,0:30:23.839 the left 0:30:23.840,0:30:26.798 and all in one design to the right and 0:30:26.799,0:30:28.239 i just wanted 0:30:28.240,0:30:31.519 hannes sir 3k would you please 0:30:31.520,0:30:34.079 tell the viewers about your 0:30:34.080,0:30:35.119 feeling 0:30:35.120,0:30:37.439 of the dna of the first machine and 0:30:37.440,0:30:39.759 everything you told me the other day 0:30:39.760,0:30:41.439 oh wow that's a tall order do you want 0:30:41.440,0:30:43.119 me to remember that what was our 0:30:43.120,0:30:45.599 discussion the dna 0:30:45.600,0:30:47.359 i just need to get in that mind frame 0:30:47.360,0:30:48.558 again 0:30:48.559,0:30:51.599 the mind frame 0:30:51.600,0:30:53.999 yeah but it's like um 0:30:54.000,0:30:55.278 um 0:30:55.279,0:30:56.879 programming language with frame and 0:30:56.880,0:30:58.639 you're about so maybe that's why you 0:30:58.640,0:31:00.158 don't have a mindset you have mind 0:31:00.159,0:31:01.678 frames or something 0:31:01.679,0:31:06.640 what we talked about yeah is that 0:31:09.120,0:31:11.278 what is the marble machine actually like 0:31:11.279,0:31:15.119 it's the cool thing that is one machine 0:31:15.120,0:31:17.918 that has so many things like convoluted 0:31:17.919,0:31:20.158 i hope i'm intertwined 0:31:20.159,0:31:21.918 and it's it's like a rube goldberg 0:31:21.919,0:31:24.719 machine everything happens um 0:31:24.720,0:31:27.119 at the same time in one machine and it's 0:31:27.120,0:31:28.879 kind of hard to understand how it works 0:31:28.880,0:31:31.359 but it's kind but it works and it's like 0:31:31.360,0:31:32.798 intriguing because it's this little 0:31:32.799,0:31:34.719 small music box and out of it comes 0:31:34.720,0:31:37.518 something big and huge 0:31:37.519,0:31:39.679 and 0:31:40.640,0:31:43.119 how much would that be lost 0:31:43.120,0:31:44.639 if we went 0:31:44.640,0:31:46.319 for a much bigger machine where 0:31:46.320,0:31:49.119 everything is separated and 0:31:49.120,0:31:51.918 if if we can go to um 0:31:51.919,0:31:54.879 actually to the sketch pad when i find 0:31:54.880,0:31:56.319 we don't we don't have to put the 0:31:56.320,0:31:58.639 modules apart from each other 0:31:58.640,0:31:59.599 um 0:31:59.600,0:32:00.479 so 0:32:00.480,0:32:03.278 if i can find 0:32:03.279,0:32:04.398 um 0:32:04.399,0:32:06.479 so yeah here for example 0:32:06.480,0:32:09.119 so here's the modules this is a modular 0:32:09.120,0:32:10.239 design 0:32:10.240,0:32:12.398 and everything is apart so it looks like 0:32:12.399,0:32:13.839 yeah that's three machines that's not 0:32:13.840,0:32:15.918 the marble machine but we can have this 0:32:15.919,0:32:17.119 mindset 0:32:17.120,0:32:19.119 and put them into 0:32:19.120,0:32:20.479 one machine 0:32:20.480,0:32:22.960 like this 0:32:23.279,0:32:26.398 so here here's bowden cables allowing us 0:32:26.399,0:32:27.999 to spread out the instruments which is 0:32:28.000,0:32:29.278 good for 0:32:29.279,0:32:31.278 and we can also do 0:32:31.279,0:32:32.239 um 0:32:32.240,0:32:35.038 something that i think is the closest 0:32:35.039,0:32:37.199 uh this one 0:32:37.200,0:32:38.798 but actually vibraphone and drums would 0:32:38.799,0:32:41.518 change place here 0:32:41.519,0:32:45.518 do we have the wide mm3 uh slide 0:32:45.519,0:32:48.239 uh i can find it maybe we don't have the 0:32:48.240,0:32:50.558 keynote 0:32:50.559,0:32:52.079 um 0:32:52.080,0:32:55.278 never mind so i'm gonna give you your uh 0:32:55.279,0:32:57.518 your the path here 0:32:57.519,0:33:01.039 um or that or um 0:33:01.200,0:33:04.158 what you were talking about is like 0:33:04.159,0:33:07.678 the dna of one machine 0:33:07.679,0:33:12.559 versus the modular design yeah and 0:33:13.600,0:33:15.918 basically you said a lot of smart things 0:33:15.919,0:33:17.999 about that can you just repeat them 0:33:18.000,0:33:19.678 please can i just repeat everything i 0:33:19.679,0:33:22.079 said and then i have like yeah here we 0:33:22.080,0:33:23.999 have holdsworth 0:33:24.000,0:33:25.999 hands also 0:33:26.000,0:33:28.879 the whole in one is the spirit it is 0:33:28.880,0:33:31.839 kind of the point of the machine 0:33:31.840,0:33:33.999 and that's perhaps a little bit where i 0:33:34.000,0:33:39.000 was going right when we talked about it 0:33:39.840,0:33:41.119 and 0:33:41.120,0:33:43.278 for me the dna of it all i talked about 0:33:43.279,0:33:45.999 on the streams earlier as well 0:33:46.000,0:33:48.558 it's like it's not a self-playing 0:33:48.559,0:33:50.719 machine altogether it's the interaction 0:33:50.720,0:33:54.239 between you and the machine also 0:33:54.240,0:33:56.158 and that's why i get so annoyed when i 0:33:56.159,0:33:59.599 hear mallet machine i know you're joking 0:33:59.600,0:34:00.959 i have to provide context because that 0:34:00.960,0:34:03.038 was the previous stream 0:34:03.039,0:34:06.239 i even contemplated building a mallet 0:34:06.240,0:34:08.398 machine instead 0:34:08.399,0:34:10.719 so no marbles because it's formed from 0:34:10.720,0:34:13.838 function absolutism but that's 0:34:13.839,0:34:15.838 that i agree 0:34:15.839,0:34:17.039 is 0:34:17.040,0:34:19.678 too much of a step into a new family of 0:34:19.679,0:34:22.319 something else 0:34:22.320,0:34:24.720 go on 0:34:26.159,0:34:28.479 as the chat says 0:34:28.480,0:34:31.279 like the main spirit of it having it is 0:34:31.280,0:34:34.799 everything in one it's not modular 0:34:34.800,0:34:36.878 connected together 0:34:36.879,0:34:40.480 a lot of like extension 0:34:40.720,0:34:41.838 i don't know 0:34:41.839,0:34:43.519 okay so give let me 0:34:43.520,0:34:44.959 can you bring that comment up again i 0:34:44.960,0:34:46.838 thought it was really nice 0:34:46.839,0:34:50.559 um the whole holdsworth hands the whole 0:34:50.560,0:34:53.279 in the in one is the spirit 0:34:53.280,0:34:55.439 it is kind of the point of the machine 0:34:55.440,0:34:58.479 so my question for you holdsworth hands 0:34:58.480,0:35:00.399 i i love your comment 0:35:00.400,0:35:02.879 uh let me draw something for you okay 0:35:02.880,0:35:04.239 mac 0:35:04.240,0:35:06.399 to me the coolest part is that it's one 0:35:06.400,0:35:09.838 machine i'm in the one machine camp 0:35:09.839,0:35:11.759 let me ask the audience something here 0:35:11.760,0:35:13.598 to you kmac and to holdsworth and to 0:35:13.599,0:35:17.000 everyone else 0:35:17.599,0:35:20.078 if the machine was large so um so we 0:35:20.079,0:35:22.799 have here alternative one 0:35:22.800,0:35:24.959 this is the all-in-one that we know and 0:35:24.960,0:35:25.999 love 0:35:26.000,0:35:28.838 and that i don't think will give 0:35:28.839,0:35:32.399 me the music requirements that i feel i 0:35:32.400,0:35:33.999 need 0:35:34.000,0:35:37.040 that's why i think 0:35:38.560,0:35:40.799 but maybe maybe maybe 0:35:40.800,0:35:43.439 like um organ guy said 0:35:43.440,0:35:45.039 the current design requirements are too 0:35:45.040,0:35:48.479 ambitious uh so so this is the 0:35:48.480,0:35:49.759 this is 0:35:49.760,0:35:52.479 let's call this the classic 0:35:52.480,0:35:55.118 classic footprint 0:35:55.119,0:35:57.519 and i have also here like this is kinda 0:35:57.520,0:35:59.519 same as i think then perhaps marcus 0:35:59.520,0:36:00.719 hoffman 0:36:00.720,0:36:02.799 modular is a marble machine but not 0:36:02.800,0:36:05.358 vintage marble machine 0:36:05.359,0:36:07.519 that's kind of the same vein of the dna 0:36:07.520,0:36:10.838 like the whole feel about it 0:36:10.839,0:36:14.319 yeah so 0:36:14.320,0:36:16.399 on the completely 0:36:16.400,0:36:19.279 other side of the spectra let's make it 0:36:19.280,0:36:21.999 i'm gonna draw it where can i draw 0:36:22.000,0:36:23.118 there 0:36:23.119,0:36:24.838 i'm gonna draw it down 0:36:24.839,0:36:25.629 here um 0:36:25.630,0:36:27.199 [Music] 0:36:27.200,0:36:30.320 let's draw it like this 0:36:30.720,0:36:32.078 we should look at pat mathews 0:36:32.079,0:36:35.039 orchestrion because i think it's a 0:36:35.040,0:36:37.279 i was a big badminton fan but that is a 0:36:37.280,0:36:39.039 mechanical music instrument project 0:36:39.040,0:36:41.039 that's kind of boring to watch 0:36:41.040,0:36:43.118 and it's actually spread out so it's a 0:36:43.119,0:36:44.719 lot of mechanical music instruments 0:36:44.720,0:36:45.999 everywhere 0:36:46.000,0:36:48.159 and um 0:36:48.160,0:36:52.959 it's not entertaining in my in my um 0:36:52.960,0:36:55.118 it's also media and solenoid controlled 0:36:55.119,0:36:58.239 and you know how i feel about that 0:36:58.240,0:37:00.739 um so down here 0:37:00.740,0:37:05.870 [Music] 0:37:07.520,0:37:09.439 and here's a comment that goes straight 0:37:09.440,0:37:12.239 to my heart from kmac once again 0:37:12.240,0:37:15.039 iron man 3 was lame because he had many 0:37:15.040,0:37:17.358 autonomous machines the coolest thing 0:37:17.359,0:37:19.118 about iron man is the man and the 0:37:19.119,0:37:22.319 machine interaction be the musical iron 0:37:22.320,0:37:24.640 man 0:37:30.160,0:37:32.319 that's so fun that's that's that's good 0:37:32.320,0:37:36.399 that's a good one kmac mr b fox 7075 as 0:37:36.400,0:37:38.639 a lot of people also suggests previous 0:37:38.640,0:37:41.039 machines only used one side there are 0:37:41.040,0:37:42.959 three other sides that can hold 0:37:42.960,0:37:45.118 instruments and i'm a little bit in this 0:37:45.119,0:37:47.679 camp as well we haven't really really 0:37:47.680,0:37:49.919 gone through the whole idea if you're 0:37:49.920,0:37:51.759 going this way i'm going to go 0:37:51.760,0:37:54.319 jean-michel circular on you all okay 0:37:54.320,0:37:57.439 because because like the circular thing 0:37:57.440,0:38:00.479 the circular thing opens up to me 0:38:00.480,0:38:03.039 uh the iron man thing and also that you 0:38:03.040,0:38:06.239 can have a stage podium that is actually 0:38:06.240,0:38:07.999 turning slowly 0:38:08.000,0:38:11.679 is actually really really not difficult 0:38:11.680,0:38:12.879 um 0:38:12.880,0:38:13.679 so 0:38:13.680,0:38:15.919 kmac by the way there is a fantastic 0:38:15.920,0:38:18.159 youtuber called kmac 0:38:18.160,0:38:20.159 who makes guitar videos 0:38:20.160,0:38:22.239 um and i don't think it's you in the 0:38:22.240,0:38:24.959 comments but if it was you i appreciate 0:38:24.960,0:38:27.039 your videos 0:38:27.040,0:38:30.040 um 0:38:32.800,0:38:34.879 one machine equals d machine several 0:38:34.880,0:38:37.679 machines equals machine band members i 0:38:37.680,0:38:39.919 would prefer the former rather than the 0:38:39.920,0:38:43.118 later yeah so so look check this out 0:38:43.119,0:38:44.719 we have a scale here 0:38:44.720,0:38:48.399 from one uh down to three 0:38:48.400,0:38:51.519 classic footprint completely modular 0:38:51.520,0:38:53.679 um 0:38:53.680,0:38:55.759 let me see if i can be a little fancy 0:38:55.760,0:38:57.199 should i be a little fancy of course i 0:38:57.200,0:38:58.319 should be a little fantastic this is 0:38:58.320,0:39:00.959 what we're all about here so i learned 0:39:00.960,0:39:04.639 that i can lower the layer opacity 0:39:04.640,0:39:06.239 there 0:39:06.240,0:39:08.159 then i'm gonna make a nice gradient 0:39:08.160,0:39:09.598 everyone 0:39:09.599,0:39:13.480 and while you do that 0:39:14.720,0:39:16.479 andrew hill the brand just being 0:39:16.480,0:39:18.319 brilliant here in chat supporting us 0:39:18.320,0:39:21.039 with a nice super chat here and says 0:39:21.040,0:39:24.399 it's it must solve the marble problem 0:39:24.400,0:39:26.799 elegantly it does not need to be 0:39:26.800,0:39:29.679 infinitely capable the elegance of 0:39:29.680,0:39:34.639 solution is the magic yes i so much 0:39:34.640,0:39:37.919 boom i so much resonate with this 0:39:37.920,0:39:39.759 um 0:39:39.760,0:39:42.760 sarah 0:39:45.440,0:39:47.439 also great perspective this one here 0:39:47.440,0:39:50.159 from r a ray been watching your videos 0:39:50.160,0:39:52.078 for years i don't particularly care what 0:39:52.079,0:39:54.838 form it takes as long as it's fully 0:39:54.839,0:39:56.559 mechanical 0:39:56.560,0:39:59.760 i resonate with that too 0:40:00.480,0:40:02.879 friction finsness henriksen a modular 0:40:02.880,0:40:04.559 machine looks like something i have seen 0:40:04.560,0:40:06.159 before 0:40:06.160,0:40:11.319 hole in one is something new and unique 0:40:16.880,0:40:19.439 yeah the modular has been done right 0:40:19.440,0:40:21.519 i don't know what i'm doing i just need 0:40:21.520,0:40:24.760 some colors 0:40:25.839,0:40:28.399 i think biebu champs said this earlier 0:40:28.400,0:40:30.479 but this is also interesting 0:40:30.480,0:40:33.679 just two modules the vibraphone plus 0:40:33.680,0:40:36.239 bass as one and a drum loop as another 0:40:36.240,0:40:38.159 then stack them they can look as one 0:40:38.160,0:40:39.118 machine 0:40:39.119,0:40:41.759 then if you finish the top you at least 0:40:41.760,0:40:46.000 have a product even without drums 0:40:46.160,0:40:47.439 so 0:40:47.440,0:40:49.358 this is exactly where i'm going because 0:40:49.359,0:40:51.358 i'm of course gonna present to you the 0:40:51.359,0:40:53.999 middle alternative here which i don't 0:40:54.000,0:40:55.118 know 0:40:55.119,0:40:58.318 how i perceive and i'm curious to hear 0:40:58.319,0:41:01.838 how you sir 3000 perceive this 0:41:01.839,0:41:03.999 because here 0:41:04.000,0:41:06.239 in the purple between the blue and the 0:41:06.240,0:41:08.480 red 0:41:09.119,0:41:12.959 wrong color so and i i'm i'm on edge 0:41:12.960,0:41:14.799 i'm on edge 0:41:14.800,0:41:17.040 two 0:41:18.240,0:41:19.598 we have 0:41:19.599,0:41:22.319 the broad 0:41:22.480,0:41:26.159 i don't also have any space left 0:41:26.160,0:41:30.078 we have the big all-in-one machine 0:41:30.079,0:41:33.079 um 0:41:34.000,0:41:35.679 can i please draw it somewhere where i 0:41:35.680,0:41:38.319 have place 0:41:41.680,0:41:45.280 so it's all in one 0:41:46.240,0:41:49.279 but we have the drums here to the right 0:41:49.280,0:41:51.199 drums 0:41:51.200,0:41:54.400 and here's the vibraphone 0:41:54.720,0:41:56.318 they're not on top of each other they're 0:41:56.319,0:41:57.759 not intertwined 0:41:57.760,0:42:01.560 and here's the bass guitar 0:42:02.560,0:42:05.839 and here's me playing it 0:42:06.240,0:42:09.759 uh so two is the 0:42:09.760,0:42:11.679 big 0:42:11.680,0:42:15.119 all-in-one yeah 0:42:15.440,0:42:16.799 so 0:42:16.800,0:42:19.838 sections not modules that's how i think 0:42:19.839,0:42:24.800 about it you know sections not modules 0:42:25.200,0:42:27.598 i don't need them to be modular 0:42:27.599,0:42:31.560 separated from each other 0:42:33.599,0:42:35.358 so everyone who has been like super 0:42:35.359,0:42:37.039 clear about your relationship to the 0:42:37.040,0:42:39.598 iron man 0:42:39.599,0:42:41.439 i've also seen the movie when iron man 0:42:41.440,0:42:43.759 is like you automatic bot go and fix 0:42:43.760,0:42:45.838 this problem and i i 0:42:45.839,0:42:47.598 you're right it's lame 0:42:47.599,0:42:48.639 um 0:42:48.640,0:42:50.880 so 0:42:52.079,0:42:54.479 if i build this monster 0:42:54.480,0:42:56.879 i think it would be like two meters wide 0:42:56.880,0:43:00.639 so so let's say that this is one meter 0:43:00.640,0:43:02.639 and let's say that this is two meter 0:43:02.640,0:43:05.199 let's just say that it's double 0:43:05.200,0:43:07.440 um 0:43:09.520,0:43:12.078 i feel real i really do not know what 0:43:12.079,0:43:14.318 relationship i have to this machine 0:43:14.319,0:43:16.159 um 0:43:16.160,0:43:19.118 what is it mainly that disturbs you with 0:43:19.119,0:43:23.519 the wide solution so you know what 2a 0:43:23.520,0:43:26.479 let's do a sneaky 2b 0:43:26.480,0:43:29.520 you know what that's gonna be 0:43:29.599,0:43:32.160 circular 0:43:33.119,0:43:36.078 that's a circular microphone right here 0:43:36.079,0:43:39.039 with the with the sp with the mushroom 0:43:39.040,0:43:41.439 and the the machine 0:43:41.440,0:43:44.318 to be circular 0:43:44.319,0:43:45.999 sorry hannes can you repeat that 0:43:46.000,0:43:47.118 question 0:43:47.119,0:43:50.239 uh basically what it is that really 0:43:50.240,0:43:54.399 grinds your gears with a wide machine 0:43:54.400,0:43:57.598 how come that seems so distant in your 0:43:57.599,0:43:59.999 mind it's like i'm scared because the 0:44:00.000,0:44:01.519 machine has taken over my life 0:44:01.520,0:44:05.039 completely and if i make it twice as big 0:44:05.040,0:44:06.399 it's like 0:44:06.400,0:44:09.039 it's physically intimidates me 0:44:09.040,0:44:10.959 uh and i'm just like 0:44:10.960,0:44:13.598 oh jesus christ 0:44:13.599,0:44:16.719 switching a 2 meter long 90 centimeter 0:44:16.720,0:44:19.118 like huge barrel 0:44:19.119,0:44:21.679 i mean it's it's the most epic ever 0:44:21.680,0:44:24.318 but am i just should i just make songs 0:44:24.319,0:44:26.239 with fewer notes on the vibraphone 0:44:26.240,0:44:28.719 because that is what what organ guy is 0:44:28.720,0:44:31.118 intending when he says maybe the maybe 0:44:31.119,0:44:33.358 the design requirements are um too 0:44:33.359,0:44:34.879 ambitious maybe you don't mean it like 0:44:34.880,0:44:37.199 that maybe it was just an example but 0:44:37.200,0:44:39.439 so the magic of the first machine is its 0:44:39.440,0:44:41.118 limitations 0:44:41.119,0:44:42.639 and 0:44:42.640,0:44:44.559 if i want a full-size vibraphone with 0:44:44.560,0:44:46.959 174 registrators 0:44:46.960,0:44:48.879 the programming wheel needs to be quite 0:44:48.880,0:44:50.399 big 0:44:50.400,0:44:52.399 and to machine that 0:44:52.400,0:44:54.879 i think we can do it but it's just 0:44:54.880,0:44:58.799 it becomes this behemoth 0:44:58.800,0:45:00.559 the circular thing would also be a 0:45:00.560,0:45:04.920 behemoth yeah so 0:45:05.760,0:45:07.039 what what what 0:45:07.040,0:45:09.279 what does what shot what do you think 0:45:09.280,0:45:12.318 about uh what is your reaction to the 0:45:12.319,0:45:14.318 mid 0:45:14.319,0:45:16.399 the mid alternative you see a lot of two 0:45:16.400,0:45:18.318 b's 0:45:18.319,0:45:20.639 and also stuff like this from sound or 0:45:20.640,0:45:22.479 you hash the machine can be white but 0:45:22.480,0:45:24.879 the prog wheel doesn't have to yeah i've 0:45:24.880,0:45:25.679 been 0:45:25.680,0:45:29.280 talking about as as well 0:45:29.680,0:45:33.358 so that machine let me let me let me 0:45:33.359,0:45:35.279 sketch that machine real quick 0:45:35.280,0:45:37.279 um 0:45:37.280,0:45:39.358 that's this machine and i 0:45:39.359,0:45:41.279 structure like 0:45:41.280,0:45:43.679 solution wise i completely believe in 0:45:43.680,0:45:44.879 this machine 0:45:44.880,0:45:47.999 um where where are the drums i put a 0:45:48.000,0:45:51.838 vibraphone here with me 0:45:51.839,0:45:53.519 here's the vibraphone 0:45:53.520,0:45:55.759 sticking outside a little bit 0:45:55.760,0:45:59.240 and here's the drums 0:46:02.880,0:46:04.719 like that 0:46:04.720,0:46:06.479 they have a loop wheel behind them 0:46:06.480,0:46:08.720 though 0:46:09.040,0:46:11.919 [Music] 0:46:11.920,0:46:15.400 and i'm here 0:46:21.520,0:46:25.359 so it's it's more spread out 0:46:25.760,0:46:29.039 yeah and a steel skin 667 says the 0:46:29.040,0:46:30.879 programming jump doesn't have to be that 0:46:30.880,0:46:32.479 much bigger you just need a bit more 0:46:32.480,0:46:35.439 room for the instruments that's the main 0:46:35.440,0:46:38.240 quarry right 0:46:39.280,0:46:42.318 so it's it's really not a bit more if we 0:46:42.319,0:46:44.479 put the drums and the vibraphones next 0:46:44.480,0:46:46.719 to each other it's a lot more 0:46:46.720,0:46:49.119 um 0:46:49.359,0:46:51.838 another idea a lot of people want to put 0:46:51.839,0:46:55.599 the drums under the vibrophone 0:46:55.760,0:46:57.358 and if we skip 0:46:57.359,0:46:59.118 having the drums marble played if the 0:46:59.119,0:47:01.279 drums are only loop played 0:47:01.280,0:47:02.719 or 0:47:02.720,0:47:04.879 recharged played by the programming 0:47:04.880,0:47:07.358 wheel which has been solved today 0:47:07.359,0:47:09.519 uh the spring recharge solution that's 0:47:09.520,0:47:12.078 that's not for not a discussion now if 0:47:12.079,0:47:15.118 we skip marbles on the drums 0:47:15.119,0:47:17.199 uh and only have the vibraphone and the 0:47:17.200,0:47:18.159 blaze 0:47:18.160,0:47:19.759 base marble played 0:47:19.760,0:47:23.800 we all of a sudden have 0:47:26.160,0:47:29.679 we can make a tighter footprint 0:47:29.680,0:47:32.400 all of a sudden 0:47:37.280,0:47:38.879 it's it's just that 0:47:38.880,0:47:41.280 like my 0:47:42.079,0:47:44.318 like this limitation of 0:47:44.319,0:47:46.318 notes on the vibraphone 0:47:46.319,0:47:48.719 which we did the other day the decision 0:47:48.720,0:47:50.318 matrix for 0:47:50.319,0:47:52.959 um 0:47:52.960,0:47:55.039 this is truly like 0:47:55.040,0:47:57.199 and also having the big acoustic drums 0:47:57.200,0:47:59.920 it's truly 0:48:00.559,0:48:02.879 making a big difference and 0:48:02.880,0:48:05.439 i mean you spent five years having not 0:48:05.440,0:48:07.679 having space for my components 0:48:07.680,0:48:10.078 so i i just feel like i don't know if i 0:48:10.079,0:48:11.598 want to spend 0:48:11.599,0:48:13.838 two more years trying to fit things into 0:48:13.839,0:48:16.318 spaces where that doesn't exist 0:48:16.319,0:48:18.558 no so 0:48:18.559,0:48:21.679 that's a big no-no then you can't be too 0:48:21.680,0:48:24.160 tight 0:48:26.320,0:48:29.199 [Music] 0:48:29.200,0:48:31.519 3d printer academy just sent a generous 0:48:31.520,0:48:33.118 super chat here saying are you 0:48:33.119,0:48:35.039 completely against remaking more machine 0:48:35.040,0:48:38.078 x with 50 less parts and complexity 0:48:38.079,0:48:40.558 stephen 0:48:40.559,0:48:43.358 so this is a great comment stephen thank 0:48:43.359,0:48:46.239 you so much 3d printer academy uh i 0:48:46.240,0:48:48.229 would have needed going to that school 0:48:48.230,0:48:49.679 [Laughter] 0:48:49.680,0:48:51.358 um 0:48:51.359,0:48:53.519 since 0:48:53.520,0:48:55.358 when i started trying 3d printing i 0:48:55.359,0:48:57.358 thought i knew everything talking about 0:48:57.359,0:48:58.078 the 0:48:58.079,0:49:00.159 the the known 0:49:00.160,0:49:02.479 the the unknown knowns and stuff like 0:49:02.480,0:49:03.439 that 0:49:03.440,0:49:05.760 um 0:49:06.319,0:49:08.719 uh what's happening here okay yeah i 0:49:08.720,0:49:11.919 went to the wrong wrong thing 0:49:11.920,0:49:13.439 um 0:49:13.440,0:49:14.799 let's go back 0:49:14.800,0:49:19.359 to cad and let's check this 0:49:27.760,0:49:30.639 there is no sound in the kick drum 0:49:30.640,0:49:33.358 of either of these instruments 0:49:33.359,0:49:35.118 in the room 0:49:35.119,0:49:37.039 i can show you exactly how the kick drum 0:49:37.040,0:49:38.719 sounds yeah 0:49:38.720,0:49:40.159 wait 0:49:40.160,0:49:43.039 can we do it in the action cam 0:49:43.040,0:49:46.880 of course we can 0:49:50.319,0:49:52.159 in the room the kick drum sounds like 0:49:52.160,0:49:55.359 this are you ready for it 0:49:57.760,0:50:00.558 yeah pretty much yeah 0:50:00.559,0:50:02.879 i've heard it and 0:50:02.880,0:50:04.639 remaking uh 0:50:04.640,0:50:08.319 if we go back to the image here 0:50:10.880,0:50:12.719 when i was touring with both my bands i 0:50:12.720,0:50:14.799 used contact microphones a lot and i put 0:50:14.800,0:50:16.719 them on under instruments and it's 0:50:16.720,0:50:18.318 magical what you can do with a contact 0:50:18.319,0:50:20.399 microphone so in an electrified 0:50:20.400,0:50:21.598 environment 0:50:21.599,0:50:24.479 you get a control that is unheard of i 0:50:24.480,0:50:27.838 showed the demo in the machine x videos 0:50:27.839,0:50:28.639 about 0:50:28.640,0:50:30.318 signal to noise ratio i put contact 0:50:30.319,0:50:33.760 microphones on symbols and stuff 0:50:33.920,0:50:35.999 i just want to go away from that for my 0:50:36.000,0:50:37.999 mu for my music career i just want to go 0:50:38.000,0:50:40.558 away from this electronic contact 0:50:40.559,0:50:42.399 microphone everything is fixed with 0:50:42.400,0:50:44.159 plugins in logic 0:50:44.160,0:50:47.199 i just want i want to build something 0:50:47.200,0:50:50.159 that sounds good in a room so in my 0:50:50.160,0:50:52.479 house in france when people came by and 0:50:52.480,0:50:54.959 they saw the machine all of them asked 0:50:54.960,0:50:57.039 me to play it 0:50:57.040,0:50:59.279 and i owe your heart and i was just like 0:50:59.280,0:51:01.358 [Laughter] 0:51:01.359,0:51:04.639 i just need to set up my 100 microphones 0:51:04.640,0:51:07.439 i was like i can't and even if i could 0:51:07.440,0:51:09.519 you wouldn't hear it so what i would 0:51:09.520,0:51:11.999 have to do to these people is here 0:51:12.000,0:51:14.159 take a couple of studio headphones and 0:51:14.160,0:51:16.558 let me just fix my hundred channels and 0:51:16.559,0:51:18.239 you hear the live mix through the 0:51:18.240,0:51:19.919 headphones and it was going to be 0:51:19.920,0:51:22.399 amazing and live on stage this is how 0:51:22.400,0:51:24.639 these instruments like live on when you 0:51:24.640,0:51:26.318 go to big concert you don't hear 0:51:26.319,0:51:28.959 anything acoustically everything is 0:51:28.960,0:51:31.439 so it was a machine 0:51:31.440,0:51:33.759 that was made for an amplified 0:51:33.760,0:51:35.358 environment and i think that is like 0:51:35.359,0:51:36.799 when you say do you want to rebuild the 0:51:36.800,0:51:38.799 margin x no 0:51:38.800,0:51:41.199 i'm not interested in making a machine 0:51:41.200,0:51:43.519 where someone super excited comes into a 0:51:43.520,0:51:45.598 room and immediately wants to hear the 0:51:45.599,0:51:47.999 machine and can't i want to have the 0:51:48.000,0:51:50.399 magic of the machine sounding pretty 0:51:50.400,0:51:52.239 good in the youtube videos when i'm 0:51:52.240,0:51:53.999 building it before i'm putting the 0:51:54.000,0:51:55.598 microphones on it 0:51:55.599,0:51:56.879 and it's sounding just even better 0:51:56.880,0:51:59.679 because [ __ ] in [ __ ] out is an old 0:51:59.680,0:52:02.479 musician stroke and it's so true and 0:52:02.480,0:52:04.159 it's like when a chef becomes better 0:52:04.160,0:52:06.318 with cooking the chef is not using like 0:52:06.319,0:52:08.399 100 million ingredients the chef is 0:52:08.400,0:52:11.519 using fresh best ingredients possible 0:52:11.520,0:52:15.039 and i'm so bored with like oh there's a 0:52:15.040,0:52:18.799 rise in the stupid snare drum 0:52:18.800,0:52:21.039 the rice belongs in the kitchen 0:52:21.040,0:52:23.439 uh the snare drum i'm gonna buy 0:52:23.440,0:52:27.439 off the shelf to make it sound like how 0:52:27.440,0:52:28.719 how do we 0:52:28.720,0:52:31.199 make a snare drum sound wait i have an 0:52:31.200,0:52:35.919 idea i'm gonna use a snare drum 0:52:35.920,0:52:38.879 i'm just so i'm done with it honestly 0:52:38.880,0:52:41.759 okay yeah so no which means we need a 0:52:41.760,0:52:43.279 full-size scenario we need a full-size 0:52:43.280,0:52:45.519 kick drum which makes there's no space 0:52:45.520,0:52:47.358 for a full-size kick drum on this 0:52:47.359,0:52:48.318 machine 0:52:48.319,0:52:50.239 um 0:52:50.240,0:52:51.999 if i want a lot of vibraphone channels 0:52:52.000,0:52:53.919 and maybe that's where like that's maybe 0:52:53.920,0:52:55.679 the trade-off that i'm not mature enough 0:52:55.680,0:52:58.159 to be able to make like maybe i just 0:52:58.160,0:53:00.959 need to go down to playing like there is 0:53:00.960,0:53:02.639 a song in swedish till paris i'm going 0:53:02.640,0:53:04.558 to tour the whole world playing till 0:53:04.559,0:53:08.319 parties till paris 0:53:09.119,0:53:11.598 and that's the only song 0:53:11.599,0:53:12.318 yeah 0:53:12.319,0:53:15.720 there is from 0:53:16.640,0:53:18.879 best cover version ever of till paris 0:53:18.880,0:53:21.118 but that's the only song the the machine 0:53:21.119,0:53:23.759 will be able to play um uh yeah 0:53:23.760,0:53:26.318 okay i'll leave it there sir 3k 0:53:26.319,0:53:28.639 help me out here another brilliant 0:53:28.640,0:53:31.199 beautiful support a nice super chatty 0:53:31.200,0:53:33.519 from andrew hildebrand yet again 0:53:33.520,0:53:36.078 original form feels like another player 0:53:36.079,0:53:39.279 on stage wide feels like a pickup truck 0:53:39.280,0:53:42.159 a non-character participant go with 0:53:42.160,0:53:44.879 human form reduce the range requirements 0:53:44.880,0:53:50.079 reduce the complexity embrace glory 0:53:53.280,0:53:56.280 yes 0:53:59.040,0:54:01.118 that's a good comment that's a good 0:54:01.119,0:54:03.919 comment uh so um i wanted to make this 0:54:03.920,0:54:06.399 video because i think it's uh it's 0:54:06.400,0:54:07.999 obvious dream because i think it's 0:54:08.000,0:54:10.480 obvious that 0:54:11.359,0:54:12.799 there is a 0:54:12.800,0:54:14.799 big identity crisis in the project right 0:54:14.800,0:54:16.799 now and it's good it's good we need to 0:54:16.800,0:54:18.239 have that because the first two machines 0:54:18.240,0:54:21.440 are too similar yeah 0:54:21.520,0:54:23.919 okay so what about another constraint 0:54:23.920,0:54:24.959 the 0:54:24.960,0:54:27.759 marbles playing the drums 0:54:27.760,0:54:29.439 i think it's kind of important that they 0:54:29.440,0:54:31.599 do 0:54:33.599,0:54:37.800 vibraphone next to the 0:54:38.799,0:54:40.719 so then we have let's go to this sketch 0:54:40.720,0:54:43.598 honest the 90 degree sketch uh 0:54:43.599,0:54:46.479 i have a lot of sketch here 0:54:46.480,0:54:48.399 here 0:54:48.400,0:54:51.519 let's i have to take this away 0:54:51.520,0:54:53.839 so 0:54:53.920,0:54:56.159 this is kind of another like in between 0:54:56.160,0:54:57.118 move 0:54:57.119,0:54:58.959 og forum feels like another player on 0:54:58.960,0:55:00.798 stage white feels like a pickup truck a 0:55:00.799,0:55:03.439 non-character participant 0:55:03.440,0:55:05.279 go with human form reduce the range 0:55:05.280,0:55:07.358 requirements reduce the complexity 0:55:07.359,0:55:09.838 embrace glory 0:55:09.839,0:55:12.880 the mutual command 0:55:15.599,0:55:16.719 i mean i 0:55:16.720,0:55:20.479 maybe i i can play cool bass lines 0:55:20.480,0:55:22.719 yeah you can i've heard them 0:55:22.720,0:55:25.040 um 0:55:27.119,0:55:28.879 oh what do we have here 0:55:28.880,0:55:30.639 oh wow 0:55:30.640,0:55:33.039 dynamic commander with a nice little 0:55:33.040,0:55:34.798 super chat here 0:55:34.799,0:55:37.999 two meters wide two times one meter 0:55:38.000,0:55:40.639 programming barrel side by side for 0:55:40.640,0:55:43.118 easier interchangeability 0:55:43.119,0:55:44.959 keep one barrel for vibraphone one 0:55:44.960,0:55:47.358 barrel for drums and bass that's one of 0:55:47.359,0:55:48.959 your favorite cities thank you for the 0:55:48.960,0:55:50.798 comment dynamic commander uh hannes can 0:55:50.799,0:55:53.919 you pull up the mmx wide sketch uh i can 0:55:53.920,0:55:55.919 try to find it yes because i think 0:55:55.920,0:55:59.598 that's one of the um absolutely so 0:55:59.599,0:56:02.078 the suggestion that we just made i can 0:56:02.079,0:56:04.159 actually make in cad right away it's 0:56:04.160,0:56:07.358 basically like this copy this 0:56:07.359,0:56:08.639 and 0:56:08.640,0:56:11.039 do this 0:56:11.040,0:56:14.239 and by having this um 0:56:14.240,0:56:15.679 separate 0:56:15.680,0:56:18.399 it's you you you don't have to change 0:56:18.400,0:56:19.919 the whole thing 0:56:19.920,0:56:22.078 and then we need to tour with six six 0:56:22.079,0:56:23.999 wheels and then we would actually move 0:56:24.000,0:56:26.879 the vibraphone let's do that 0:56:26.880,0:56:27.999 um 0:56:28.000,0:56:29.999 i should actually do more in cad like 0:56:30.000,0:56:31.279 this 0:56:31.280,0:56:32.479 and then we 0:56:32.480,0:56:35.919 we should actually move the bass 0:56:35.920,0:56:38.399 um i'm cutting your suggestion right 0:56:38.400,0:56:42.480 here this is this is it 0:56:42.640,0:56:43.919 to me it doesn't feel like a 0:56:43.920,0:56:45.759 non-playable character when i see it 0:56:45.760,0:56:48.719 like this to me this sounds like the and 0:56:48.720,0:56:50.558 and you know what's cool here we can 0:56:50.559,0:56:53.440 remove this wheel 0:56:53.520,0:56:55.199 check this out 0:56:55.200,0:56:58.318 let me copy the frame 0:56:58.319,0:57:00.640 um 0:57:01.119,0:57:02.078 no 0:57:02.079,0:57:05.040 yeah paste 0:57:07.839,0:57:09.999 look at this machine on us i just made 0:57:10.000,0:57:13.358 yeah you see now we are talking 0:57:13.359,0:57:15.199 because this frame on this side wouldn't 0:57:15.200,0:57:17.838 need to be that high 0:57:17.839,0:57:19.358 um 0:57:19.359,0:57:23.200 i should actually maybe do that 0:57:24.960,0:57:27.279 so so with a bow and cable we only have 0:57:27.280,0:57:29.519 six marbles to drop drop to drop on the 0:57:29.520,0:57:31.358 drums over here 0:57:31.359,0:57:33.279 um 0:57:33.280,0:57:35.439 but with the bowden cable we only need 0:57:35.440,0:57:38.879 to get six marbles over over there 0:57:38.880,0:57:42.879 this and we still only need two 0:57:42.880,0:57:44.879 wheels 0:57:44.880,0:57:46.558 of course my 0:57:46.559,0:57:49.520 depending on my 0:57:49.839,0:57:51.919 maybe i still need to remove some note 0:57:51.920,0:57:54.920 requirements 0:57:54.960,0:57:57.999 what if i make this machine but i 0:57:58.000,0:57:59.999 what if i make this machine 0:58:00.000,0:58:01.759 but i reduce the number of notes on the 0:58:01.760,0:58:02.529 vibraphone 0:58:02.530,0:58:03.759 [Music] 0:58:03.760,0:58:06.239 to just make it kind of not bigger than 0:58:06.240,0:58:08.399 this 0:58:08.400,0:58:10.078 and i should maybe put the frames 0:58:10.079,0:58:13.760 together so it doesn't look modular 0:58:13.839,0:58:17.759 and oh my oh my i hear another ring here 0:58:17.760,0:58:19.999 and it's uh 0:58:20.000,0:58:22.798 it's a question from fredward here you 0:58:22.799,0:58:25.838 focused on the dream machine having 0:58:25.839,0:58:27.358 everything you want 0:58:27.359,0:58:30.078 what is the absolute minimum machine 0:58:30.079,0:58:33.199 that would make you happy 0:58:33.200,0:58:35.439 thank you so much for your support this 0:58:35.440,0:58:37.079 is great fred ward um 0:58:37.080,0:58:38.159 [Music] 0:58:38.160,0:58:41.118 so we we talked we talked in the 0:58:41.119,0:58:43.439 in the photoshop document where are we 0:58:43.440,0:58:44.479 here 0:58:44.480,0:58:46.959 we talked about minimum viable product 0:58:46.960,0:58:48.159 mvp 0:58:48.160,0:58:51.199 and i think um there are two different 0:58:51.200,0:58:52.719 ones 0:58:52.720,0:58:54.239 uh 0:58:54.240,0:58:55.759 for 0:58:55.760,0:58:57.759 the audience 0:58:57.760,0:59:00.479 or for martin 0:59:00.480,0:59:02.479 and of course what we're trying to do 0:59:02.480,0:59:03.999 here which i'm so happy for is that 0:59:04.000,0:59:07.118 we're trying to find like alignment yes 0:59:07.119,0:59:09.659 um between 0:59:09.660,0:59:12.830 [Music] 0:59:14.720,0:59:16.798 and actually finishing something would 0:59:16.799,0:59:19.039 also would make me 0:59:19.040,0:59:20.639 i haven't finished anything in five 0:59:20.640,0:59:22.078 years 0:59:22.079,0:59:23.279 like 0:59:23.280,0:59:25.358 and that's why maybe like 0:59:25.359,0:59:26.959 to actually deliver on something 0:59:26.960,0:59:29.519 sometimes you also just have to deliver 0:59:29.520,0:59:31.679 um to actually deliver something but 0:59:31.680,0:59:33.759 here's the kicker 0:59:33.760,0:59:36.239 the larger i make the machine not not 0:59:36.240,0:59:37.759 100 true 0:59:37.760,0:59:40.239 the easier it is for me to deliver in 0:59:40.240,0:59:44.078 this setup everything has its own space 0:59:44.079,0:59:45.039 um 0:59:45.040,0:59:46.879 it's like 0:59:46.880,0:59:48.318 maybe i should move the programming 0:59:48.319,0:59:50.879 wheel into the middle a little bit let's 0:59:50.880,0:59:53.680 move it there 0:59:56.160,0:59:58.479 like is this is this a modular machine 0:59:58.480,1:00:01.679 or is this one machine 1:00:01.680,1:00:03.919 do you have the wide sketch 1:00:03.920,1:00:06.318 yes and i just want to we got a 1:00:06.319,1:00:08.318 another one here oh and now it feels 1:00:08.319,1:00:10.078 like we're we're begging for it but 1:00:10.079,1:00:11.919 we're super happy for this before he's 1:00:11.920,1:00:14.399 so you're so generous everyone this 1:00:14.400,1:00:16.239 means everything to us 1:00:16.240,1:00:20.399 and it's from sliceosporta who else 1:00:20.400,1:00:22.479 always with us love it 1:00:22.480,1:00:24.719 large doesn't necessarily mean difficult 1:00:24.720,1:00:26.719 it just means large 1:00:26.720,1:00:30.078 if it can easily disassemble reassemble 1:00:30.079,1:00:32.399 ship and transport who cares how large 1:00:32.400,1:00:34.719 it is if it fits your requirements 1:00:34.720,1:00:37.358 engineer the size to be easy to work 1:00:37.359,1:00:40.399 with yeah i totally uh agree slicer 1:00:40.400,1:00:43.839 sparta and and 1:00:46.240,1:00:49.118 here's the wide mm3 we love this 1:00:49.119,1:00:51.118 something about this yeah crafted by 1:00:51.119,1:00:53.679 aura so question to you shot when you 1:00:53.680,1:00:56.959 look at the sketch the wide mm3 1:00:56.960,1:00:59.358 do you feel that the magic is gone 1:00:59.359,1:01:02.240 do you feel that 1:01:02.720,1:01:05.279 or is the magic that we're making uh 1:01:05.280,1:01:10.159 like the best sounding most tight 1:01:10.160,1:01:12.318 acoustic mechanical music instrument 1:01:12.319,1:01:13.999 ever played it's not fully acoustic with 1:01:14.000,1:01:15.838 the electric bass 1:01:15.839,1:01:18.558 sorry for leading question 1:01:18.559,1:01:19.519 no no 1:01:19.520,1:01:20.479 give it 1:01:20.480,1:01:23.199 uh oh steelskin 667 looks like one 1:01:23.200,1:01:25.598 machine to me um 1:01:25.599,1:01:27.439 i just want to talk about another bias 1:01:27.440,1:01:29.838 like that that that we do have if if we 1:01:29.839,1:01:32.479 just go back to my favorite image here 1:01:32.480,1:01:33.919 and yes this was 1:01:33.920,1:01:35.999 nice i think from robert e can doll i 1:01:36.000,1:01:38.078 think we the audience wants to know what 1:01:38.079,1:01:40.959 you feel excited about yeah yeah 1:01:40.960,1:01:43.279 currently 1:01:43.280,1:01:46.799 currently robert i am um 1:01:48.720,1:01:51.519 i am basically just pessimistic about 1:01:51.520,1:01:53.919 the whole endeavor not about sitting 1:01:53.920,1:01:56.639 here working on it that is so much fun 1:01:56.640,1:01:58.639 but right now i'm just like 1:01:58.640,1:02:01.038 i'm i've become 1:02:01.039,1:02:03.919 i've become like a naysayer like from 1:02:03.920,1:02:05.679 being naive i think 1:02:05.680,1:02:07.118 i'm 1:02:07.119,1:02:09.919 i'm just so scared about how 1:02:09.920,1:02:12.798 naive i was before and how i unders 1:02:12.799,1:02:15.279 i didn't underestimate a little bit 1:02:15.280,1:02:17.679 i i was like in the wrong universe 1:02:17.680,1:02:19.439 before so i'm 1:02:19.440,1:02:21.999 so right now i'm 1:02:22.000,1:02:23.838 i think i feel excited about reaching 1:02:23.839,1:02:26.318 the point where i can know if i should 1:02:26.319,1:02:28.239 make this project or not like i'm 1:02:28.240,1:02:30.078 already doing one project the digital 1:02:30.079,1:02:33.759 file but if i can build it or not and 1:02:33.760,1:02:35.679 but then sometimes i get a tingle of 1:02:35.680,1:02:36.879 excitement 1:02:36.880,1:02:39.279 when i have 37 notes on a full-size 1:02:39.280,1:02:41.838 vibraphone with double drops that i can 1:02:41.839,1:02:42.879 program 1:02:42.880,1:02:45.679 mechanically jack druid this is the one 1:02:45.680,1:02:48.479 an abstract backpack if it works better 1:02:48.480,1:02:52.479 it is better white equals good then 1:02:52.480,1:02:53.598 so 1:02:53.599,1:02:55.279 what was the image i wanted to show 1:02:55.280,1:02:57.439 that's a nice uh comment 1:02:57.440,1:03:00.078 as well from abstract backpack 1:03:00.079,1:03:03.079 um 1:03:03.200,1:03:05.199 oh yeah i know which image i wanted to 1:03:05.200,1:03:06.798 show 1:03:06.799,1:03:08.558 and hang on 1:03:08.559,1:03:10.799 uh 1:03:11.599,1:03:13.919 oh i have a new setup that's why i'm 1:03:13.920,1:03:15.118 struggling 1:03:15.119,1:03:17.839 this 1:03:19.520,1:03:21.598 look what happened here from the first 1:03:21.599,1:03:23.838 machine everyone loves it 1:03:23.839,1:03:26.078 to the second machine i loved it so much 1:03:26.079,1:03:28.159 i tried to build the same machine 1:03:28.160,1:03:31.839 i don't want to repeat this mistake 1:03:33.839,1:03:36.799 i i think 1:03:37.280,1:03:39.038 if we really take down the design 1:03:39.039,1:03:40.318 requirements 1:03:40.319,1:03:42.239 i think we can build this machine and 1:03:42.240,1:03:44.399 make it work 1:03:44.400,1:03:46.399 but the question is do i want a mic a 1:03:46.400,1:03:49.439 vibraphone that is 20 centimeters away 1:03:49.440,1:03:51.199 from a snare drum and the answer to that 1:03:51.200,1:03:52.639 is no 1:03:52.640,1:03:55.118 i don't 1:03:55.119,1:03:57.519 can i record the instrument separately 1:03:57.520,1:03:59.118 in the studio and produce a fantastic 1:03:59.119,1:04:01.598 album where i do as every musicians do i 1:04:01.599,1:04:03.598 record track by track to make a nice 1:04:03.599,1:04:05.759 album for spotify 1:04:05.760,1:04:06.639 yes 1:04:06.640,1:04:08.798 will it sound okay live 1:04:08.799,1:04:10.318 yes 1:04:10.319,1:04:11.759 so this is another 1:04:11.760,1:04:15.279 this is another like thing can i 1:04:15.280,1:04:16.959 this is actually super important design 1:04:16.960,1:04:18.239 requirement 1:04:18.240,1:04:20.239 when i make the album 1:04:20.240,1:04:21.358 how much 1:04:21.359,1:04:24.479 studio sheeting will allow myself to do 1:04:24.480,1:04:27.598 and i think as any responsible musician 1:04:27.599,1:04:29.598 i will allow myself to do any kind of 1:04:29.599,1:04:32.558 studio shooting so actually this whole 1:04:32.559,1:04:33.838 thing that i worry about now that's a 1:04:33.839,1:04:36.479 snare drum is close to the vibraphone 1:04:36.480,1:04:39.199 for recording the album it maybe doesn't 1:04:39.200,1:04:40.719 matter 1:04:40.720,1:04:42.479 and toby williams brings something up 1:04:42.480,1:04:44.639 here being a naysayer is an important 1:04:44.640,1:04:48.239 step it's on the way to success 1:04:48.240,1:04:50.798 thanks tony that's kind of i'm digging 1:04:50.799,1:04:53.118 myself down in my pessimism right now 1:04:53.119,1:04:55.118 hannes is desperately trying to rescue 1:04:55.119,1:04:58.479 me from drowning in pessimism and it's 1:04:58.480,1:05:00.798 almost i'm flaunting how how negative i 1:05:00.799,1:05:02.719 am now because i'm secretly a little bit 1:05:02.720,1:05:04.479 proud just like you're hinting at 1:05:04.480,1:05:07.999 exactly as too much kraft says here 1:05:08.000,1:05:09.759 cheer up martin we'll be right there 1:05:09.760,1:05:13.279 cheering you on all the way also sir h3k 1:05:13.280,1:05:15.059 keep on 1:05:15.060,1:05:18.558 [Laughter] 1:05:18.559,1:05:21.199 it's so fun and what i love what i love 1:05:21.200,1:05:23.199 now i'm always wanted to make this 1:05:23.200,1:05:25.358 process transparent this process is 1:05:25.359,1:05:28.159 happening transparently right extremely 1:05:28.160,1:05:30.719 transparent together with you yeah i'm 1:05:30.720,1:05:31.759 i'm 1:05:31.760,1:05:34.078 i'm i'm for forgetting that we're it 1:05:34.079,1:05:35.679 feels like we're here with friends who 1:05:35.680,1:05:38.558 understands us it's a wonderful feeling 1:05:38.559,1:05:40.880 um 1:05:44.480,1:05:46.399 okay so if we 1:05:46.400,1:05:47.679 yeah so 1:05:47.680,1:05:49.439 this is a known unknown we're talking 1:05:49.440,1:05:51.358 about the footprint 1:05:51.359,1:05:54.239 to get everything to get any new viewers 1:05:54.240,1:05:57.679 into the fray i think it's a word okay i 1:05:57.680,1:05:59.519 just want to show what we did in the 1:05:59.520,1:06:01.999 beginning of the stream to um 1:06:02.000,1:06:04.959 we have identified what i think are the 1:06:04.960,1:06:07.838 most important known unknowns we want we 1:06:07.839,1:06:10.639 want to eventually move them 1:06:10.640,1:06:13.199 uh to this side to make them known 1:06:13.200,1:06:14.639 knowns 1:06:14.640,1:06:16.719 and we're talking right now about the 1:06:16.720,1:06:19.919 machine footprint and the machine dna 1:06:19.920,1:06:23.038 and it is very obvious that the previous 1:06:23.039,1:06:25.919 machines are so loved but i think there 1:06:25.920,1:06:26.798 is 1:06:26.799,1:06:28.879 maybe a trap there 1:06:28.880,1:06:32.159 in the love for our old machines 1:06:32.160,1:06:34.558 can you find uh on youtube patch 1:06:34.559,1:06:37.919 methini's orchestrion project uh 1:06:37.920,1:06:40.959 yeah soonish i am busy here reading the 1:06:40.960,1:06:43.199 wonderful chat and as max no million 1:06:43.200,1:06:45.919 says to make it feel less wide you could 1:06:45.920,1:06:47.999 be the two drums not in a straight line 1:06:48.000,1:06:51.279 so maybe like a 120 degree angle between 1:06:51.280,1:06:54.720 them oh that's a good idea 1:06:54.880,1:06:57.439 i mean and there we come also towards 1:06:57.440,1:07:00.318 the circular circular things so and also 1:07:00.319,1:07:02.479 here luis philippe 1:07:02.480,1:07:05.598 ingrass wider means easier to make and 1:07:05.599,1:07:08.399 easier to see things yeah definitely 1:07:08.400,1:07:10.159 totally agree 1:07:10.160,1:07:12.480 um 1:07:13.440,1:07:16.399 can i move around let me see if it 1:07:16.400,1:07:18.879 allows me i don't think so oh it does no 1:07:18.880,1:07:23.038 it doesn't it only moves in a group 1:07:23.039,1:07:26.078 okay let's see a bjorn guard 1:07:26.079,1:07:28.078 i think it needs to be somewhat 1:07:28.079,1:07:30.159 complicated to be interesting like a 1:07:30.160,1:07:33.519 mechanical watch versus a quartz watch 1:07:33.520,1:07:36.078 okay so that's in the dna for him 1:07:36.079,1:07:39.598 mechanical watch versus a quartz watch 1:07:39.599,1:07:41.598 yeah so so the internet 1:07:41.599,1:07:44.078 i totally agree with you bjorn um the 1:07:44.079,1:07:47.079 intertwinedness 1:07:47.520,1:07:48.558 uh 1:07:48.559,1:07:50.879 makes it exciting like how is it still 1:07:50.880,1:07:53.999 working despite the fact like it's the 1:07:54.000,1:07:56.239 antikythera mechanism like everything is 1:07:56.240,1:07:57.999 so compact and close to each other but 1:07:58.000,1:08:00.078 believe me 1:08:00.079,1:08:02.399 we would this would still be so busy we 1:08:02.400,1:08:04.318 don't have we have one percent of the 1:08:04.319,1:08:06.318 parts on screen right now 1:08:06.319,1:08:07.439 um 1:08:07.440,1:08:09.038 i'm thinking 1:08:09.039,1:08:11.118 you know what we had this nice comment 1:08:11.119,1:08:13.519 about the drum placement i'm going to go 1:08:13.520,1:08:15.358 and do some design actually and also 1:08:15.359,1:08:17.599 here speaking about drum placements from 1:08:17.600,1:08:20.318 red hot bagel for me some of the magic 1:08:20.319,1:08:22.399 is in the compactness can you go more 1:08:22.400,1:08:26.399 compact when drums aren't marble played 1:08:26.400,1:08:29.119 yes if the drums aren't marker played we 1:08:29.120,1:08:33.279 can go much more compact 1:08:33.440,1:08:37.278 but then the drum loop is only 16 beats 1:08:37.279,1:08:38.879 and with the marbles they can make 1:08:38.880,1:08:40.559 variations which i thought was so 1:08:40.560,1:08:42.479 magical 1:08:42.480,1:08:44.559 um let's go over to the drum kit 1:08:44.560,1:08:46.079 assembly and see if we can move things 1:08:46.080,1:08:48.798 around a little bit and some perspective 1:08:48.799,1:08:50.559 before i start looking for that clip you 1:08:50.560,1:08:53.119 wanted me to look at one bald man 1:08:53.120,1:08:55.519 bigger isn't always better just quote 1:08:55.520,1:08:57.838 unquote easier look at nasa versus 1:08:57.839,1:09:00.480 spacex 1:09:00.960,1:09:03.119 oh i don't know i should know the 1:09:03.120,1:09:04.559 reference 1:09:04.560,1:09:07.358 um 1:09:07.359,1:09:10.079 oh do you mean like the bigger uh like 1:09:10.080,1:09:12.718 company or rocket i'm probably rocket 1:09:12.719,1:09:14.960 like 1:09:17.759,1:09:21.358 i'm going to move 1:09:21.359,1:09:24.560 why is this like this 1:09:24.640,1:09:28.079 ah this didn't end up well 1:09:28.080,1:09:30.480 move 1:09:31.600,1:09:33.039 this is a 1:09:33.040,1:09:35.039 parametric designs i can actually move 1:09:35.040,1:09:38.318 it properly by activating this and going 1:09:38.319,1:09:41.759 down into my timeline 1:09:45.520,1:09:46.838 you know what i'm gonna 1:09:46.839,1:09:49.119 do i'm gonna do something here i'm gonna 1:09:49.120,1:09:51.278 make a copy of this i'm gonna kill all 1:09:51.279,1:09:52.639 the links 1:09:52.640,1:09:54.879 so we can move things around freely in 1:09:54.880,1:09:56.799 this design 1:09:56.800,1:09:57.678 um 1:09:57.679,1:10:00.399 i think that's the proper thing to do 1:10:00.400,1:10:03.519 let me cut this off and let me cut this 1:10:03.520,1:10:05.760 off 1:10:06.159,1:10:08.639 let me go into this view 1:10:08.640,1:10:09.759 so 1:10:09.760,1:10:11.759 i should have prepared this i'm going to 1:10:11.760,1:10:14.319 copy this one 1:10:14.320,1:10:17.039 and copy 1:10:17.040,1:10:19.759 i'm gonna open up this new sketch 1:10:19.760,1:10:21.039 sketch one 1:10:21.040,1:10:24.399 then we and i'm gonna kill 1:10:24.400,1:10:27.039 so what you do is that you can kill all 1:10:27.040,1:10:27.839 the 1:10:27.840,1:10:28.839 design 1:10:28.840,1:10:32.238 history in this copy 1:10:32.239,1:10:33.678 and then i can 1:10:33.679,1:10:35.919 kill the link 1:10:35.920,1:10:38.879 to the other things i'm just killing 1:10:38.880,1:10:40.639 all the design history so we can move 1:10:40.640,1:10:42.839 the drums freely 1:10:42.840,1:10:46.319 so let's do that 1:10:46.320,1:10:48.079 super fun to brainstorm with y'all i've 1:10:48.080,1:10:50.718 been longing for this 1:10:50.719,1:10:53.360 break link 1:10:57.280,1:11:00.879 and again the the thing with the 1:11:00.880,1:11:02.959 the straight line 1:11:02.960,1:11:05.119 is making it easier to 1:11:05.120,1:11:06.479 um 1:11:06.480,1:11:09.359 that doesn't work 1:11:09.360,1:11:11.198 can i move it like this 1:11:11.199,1:11:12.799 what was the hardest again you wanted me 1:11:12.800,1:11:14.559 to look for 1:11:14.560,1:11:16.799 oh it's because there's a rigid pap 1:11:16.800,1:11:19.119 methane orchestrion project 1:11:19.120,1:11:22.959 pat mathini while i love papathini um 1:11:22.960,1:11:24.319 this is a good example of when the 1:11:24.320,1:11:28.158 modular design becomes like i can show 1:11:28.159,1:11:29.839 where i think the modular design has 1:11:29.840,1:11:31.839 gone too far i don't think we can play 1:11:31.840,1:11:33.439 the music but we can probably look a 1:11:33.440,1:11:36.158 little bit on the video 1:11:36.159,1:11:38.219 um 1:11:38.220,1:11:39.759 [Music] 1:11:39.760,1:11:41.999 an excerpt from the orchestron project 1:11:42.000,1:11:44.960 perhaps yeah that's good 1:11:46.159,1:11:49.999 i hope it's muted no that's mute 1:11:50.000,1:11:52.479 why am i not allowed to move a single 1:11:52.480,1:11:55.840 thing in this card 1:12:01.840,1:12:05.839 there we also have someone 1:12:05.840,1:12:07.439 again 1:12:07.440,1:12:10.479 talking about let's see here hyper ban 1:12:10.480,1:12:12.479 can you put registrators instruments on 1:12:12.480,1:12:14.959 both sides of the drum it would 1:12:14.960,1:12:16.718 need a different mechanism on the 1:12:16.719,1:12:19.679 opposite side 1:12:20.480,1:12:22.238 can you put registration instruments on 1:12:22.239,1:12:24.479 both sides of the drum it would need a 1:12:24.480,1:12:26.718 different mechanism on that side so that 1:12:26.719,1:12:28.880 is 1:12:30.000,1:12:31.039 possible 1:12:31.040,1:12:33.440 for me 1:12:34.000,1:12:37.279 that that that is this 90 degree example 1:12:37.280,1:12:39.359 so on the ipad 1:12:39.360,1:12:41.519 uh if we go to the sketch pad 1:12:41.520,1:12:42.399 we are 1:12:42.400,1:12:44.079 kind of looking at that and 1:12:44.080,1:12:45.919 for me 1:12:45.920,1:12:49.119 one one like pivotal design tenant is 1:12:49.120,1:12:51.039 that if someone looks at looks at the 1:12:51.040,1:12:53.359 machine i always wanted them to be able 1:12:53.360,1:12:55.439 to look at all the action at the same 1:12:55.440,1:12:57.759 time so let's say that if we wrap the 1:12:57.760,1:13:00.079 instrument around one corner that should 1:13:00.080,1:13:04.440 be possible um 1:13:06.159,1:13:08.959 and and in this case if if the 1:13:08.960,1:13:11.279 drums are here and these are the loop 1:13:11.280,1:13:13.599 beaters 1:13:13.600,1:13:15.359 this loop will will have to be 90 1:13:15.360,1:13:16.839 degrees 1:13:16.840,1:13:19.759 uh facing this direction and the 1:13:19.760,1:13:21.759 programming wheel this direction 1:13:21.760,1:13:23.759 and we only have to have six channels 1:13:23.760,1:13:26.079 with marbles i only want 1:13:26.080,1:13:28.079 two here 1:13:28.080,1:13:30.879 two here and two here so we only have to 1:13:30.880,1:13:34.079 go over six times with six bowden cables 1:13:34.080,1:13:36.960 over to this side 1:13:43.440,1:13:48.080 you always love this didn't you sir 3k 1:13:48.480,1:13:50.800 yeah 1:13:50.960,1:13:52.399 here's all something we have talked 1:13:52.400,1:13:54.479 about in 1:13:54.480,1:13:56.639 different locations from jim 1:13:56.640,1:13:59.198 heber or jim herbert 1:13:59.199,1:14:00.959 to make the base more compact since the 1:14:00.960,1:14:02.718 person will not handling the guitar it 1:14:02.719,1:14:04.718 does not need the body all you need is 1:14:04.719,1:14:06.479 the neck and strings and pick up slash 1:14:06.480,1:14:09.039 electronics nice comment i said to hans 1:14:09.040,1:14:11.359 the other day 1:14:11.360,1:14:13.359 i'm actually prepared to use a stick 1:14:13.360,1:14:16.559 base so let's go back to cad 1:14:16.560,1:14:18.479 and 1:14:18.480,1:14:20.959 so i want i really wanted like a cello 1:14:20.960,1:14:22.959 shape and stuff like that 1:14:22.960,1:14:24.149 and 1:14:24.150,1:14:25.359 [Music] 1:14:25.360,1:14:27.839 i just said the other day 1:14:27.840,1:14:30.238 i'm actually con i actually prepared to 1:14:30.239,1:14:32.879 do some 1:14:32.880,1:14:34.158 um 1:14:34.159,1:14:35.839 soul searching 1:14:35.840,1:14:39.919 so let's cut this beautiful body away 1:14:39.920,1:14:43.919 let's make our dreams 1:14:43.920,1:14:47.039 let's dream some new dreams 1:14:47.040,1:14:49.999 and let's not be bogged down 1:14:50.000,1:14:51.519 by our old 1:14:51.520,1:14:54.079 dreams yeah it looks cool but perhaps it 1:14:54.080,1:14:56.399 doesn't need to be that way for and from 1:14:56.400,1:14:58.319 function dipoles are nice i will just 1:14:58.320,1:15:00.879 pull it up as well from b boo champ 1:15:00.880,1:15:02.959 i agree with whoever said that they 1:15:02.960,1:15:05.119 loved the way the mmx hyatt system 1:15:05.120,1:15:07.439 worked that was magical no marbles 1:15:07.440,1:15:11.119 involved and still magical oh like the 1:15:11.120,1:15:14.080 heist machine yeah 1:15:15.199,1:15:16.799 the loop drum 1:15:16.800,1:15:19.678 will be it's going to be crazy cool yeah 1:15:19.679,1:15:23.439 is it magical oh look at that i hate it 1:15:23.440,1:15:25.599 yeah for now we hate it 1:15:25.600,1:15:27.999 but space wise 1:15:28.000,1:15:30.319 well we need still if we're gonna we 1:15:30.320,1:15:32.399 play by more oh i figured out the other 1:15:32.400,1:15:33.439 day 1:15:33.440,1:15:36.238 uh by sorry i'm getting excited i 1:15:36.239,1:15:38.319 figured we love when you get excited man 1:15:38.320,1:15:39.919 i figured out a new pattern for the 1:15:39.920,1:15:42.479 hammer jammer of the bass so here we're 1:15:42.480,1:15:44.959 looking at the strings from the top 1:15:44.960,1:15:46.559 um 1:15:46.560,1:15:48.879 in the wrong order never mind and i 1:15:48.880,1:15:50.718 thought the hammer jammer needed to be 1:15:50.719,1:15:53.839 like this so eight hit points uh like 1:15:53.840,1:15:55.198 this 1:15:55.199,1:15:57.279 and they flare like this 1:15:57.280,1:15:58.079 uh 1:15:58.080,1:15:59.439 and one more 1:15:59.440,1:16:01.679 but 1:16:02.159,1:16:03.439 i think 1:16:03.440,1:16:06.158 that if we doesn't want to flare that we 1:16:06.159,1:16:08.559 could actually make the hit point 1:16:08.560,1:16:11.600 something like this 1:16:14.080,1:16:15.759 with the double because we need to 1:16:15.760,1:16:18.879 invent a double drop anyway 1:16:18.880,1:16:20.399 um 1:16:20.400,1:16:22.640 so 1:16:23.679,1:16:25.279 so then this t because i was thinking 1:16:25.280,1:16:27.839 when we make the bass smaller 1:16:27.840,1:16:29.839 so now you can see that the hit points 1:16:29.840,1:16:34.238 are almost as as the string size almost 1:16:34.239,1:16:36.480 um 1:16:36.880,1:16:37.839 okay 1:16:37.840,1:16:40.319 let's go to canned yeah and jockey 1:16:40.320,1:16:42.319 monster asks here what about beaters for 1:16:42.320,1:16:44.879 the drum like the bass and there are 1:16:44.880,1:16:47.119 beaters on the drums 1:16:47.120,1:16:49.599 beaters and marbles are getting dropped 1:16:49.600,1:16:50.479 yes 1:16:50.480,1:16:52.559 so i have them here 1:16:52.560,1:16:54.799 they are ugly right now they're only 1:16:54.800,1:16:56.479 there for 1:16:56.480,1:16:59.519 and this these beaters are four times 1:16:59.520,1:17:01.439 tighter 1:17:01.440,1:17:04.718 than the marbles where on the marble 1:17:04.719,1:17:07.599 machine x and arms were pretty tight so 1:17:07.600,1:17:09.599 i'm expecting really good performance 1:17:09.600,1:17:11.759 from the drum from the drummer and it 1:17:11.760,1:17:12.559 will 1:17:12.560,1:17:15.759 have like a solid foundation of the beat 1:17:15.760,1:17:16.399 so 1:17:16.400,1:17:17.599 so they're 1:17:17.600,1:17:19.439 they are tighter because this loop wheel 1:17:19.440,1:17:20.959 plays four times 1:17:20.960,1:17:22.959 rotates four times faster than this 1:17:22.960,1:17:24.079 wheel 1:17:24.080,1:17:24.339 um 1:17:24.340,1:17:26.399 [Music] 1:17:26.400,1:17:27.759 and 1:17:27.760,1:17:29.439 i actually thought it would rotate eight 1:17:29.440,1:17:31.119 times faster but i realized that was 1:17:31.120,1:17:32.879 even too fast 1:17:32.880,1:17:34.319 um 1:17:34.320,1:17:35.889 so where were we 1:17:35.890,1:17:37.999 [Music] 1:17:38.000,1:17:39.839 and i have another one to just 1:17:39.840,1:17:41.678 throw out here because this is also 1:17:41.679,1:17:44.479 interesting for one bald man curve the 1:17:44.480,1:17:46.479 front of all the instruments 1:17:46.480,1:17:48.158 drums in the middle split the vibraphone 1:17:48.159,1:17:50.639 between each side think crescent moon 1:17:50.640,1:17:53.919 machine is deeper not wider 1:17:53.920,1:17:55.039 curve 1:17:55.040,1:17:57.359 curved front curved front all the 1:17:57.360,1:17:58.799 instruments 1:17:58.800,1:18:00.799 drums in the middle 1:18:00.800,1:18:03.599 split the vibraphone between each side 1:18:03.600,1:18:06.639 think crescent moon 1:18:06.640,1:18:10.079 machine is deeper not wider also like 1:18:10.080,1:18:12.399 two flanks yeah 1:18:12.400,1:18:14.479 drums in the middle 1:18:14.480,1:18:17.999 split the vibraphone between each side 1:18:18.000,1:18:20.639 so i'm i'm very much in love with the 1:18:20.640,1:18:22.399 circular vibraphone 1:18:22.400,1:18:23.359 like if 1:18:23.360,1:18:25.039 like 1:18:25.040,1:18:27.119 and if somehow from a footprint 1:18:27.120,1:18:28.799 perspective that could be formed from 1:18:28.800,1:18:31.839 function i'm like oh yes 1:18:31.840,1:18:32.718 so 1:18:32.719,1:18:35.679 crescent moon 1:18:36.320,1:18:38.399 a bee boot champion i love this comment 1:18:38.400,1:18:40.718 also hammer jammer was my suggestion by 1:18:40.719,1:18:42.799 the way i expect either to be paid 1:18:42.800,1:18:45.599 billions from a genius of the mm3 or a 1:18:45.600,1:18:48.238 50 discount on your canadian mm3 world 1:18:48.239,1:18:50.718 tour concert 1:18:50.719,1:18:53.839 fantastic bibo the hammer jammer has 1:18:53.840,1:18:55.839 solved a lot thank you so much for that 1:18:55.840,1:18:58.158 suggestion i would love to have an 1:18:58.159,1:19:00.079 official like 1:19:00.080,1:19:03.359 way to record all those little small 1:19:03.360,1:19:04.879 contributions 1:19:04.880,1:19:06.559 maybe that's something that the 1:19:06.560,1:19:09.359 community can can start keeping track of 1:19:09.360,1:19:11.439 without starting to climb on each other 1:19:11.440,1:19:13.599 fighting for fighting for glory and 1:19:13.600,1:19:16.639 being being enemies mortal enemies 1:19:16.640,1:19:18.559 um 1:19:18.560,1:19:20.839 yeah the hammer jammer is great 1:19:20.840,1:19:24.079 um it's a deal it's a deal it's a deal 1:19:24.080,1:19:26.079 the discount is a deal 1:19:26.080,1:19:27.599 but no i'm not selling the battery 1:19:27.600,1:19:29.759 before it's made this time no probably 1:19:29.760,1:19:32.399 there will never be a torso so but 1:19:32.400,1:19:33.439 perhaps 1:19:33.440,1:19:35.759 we will tour the land of canada and we 1:19:35.760,1:19:38.079 can't just go and shake his hand 1:19:38.080,1:19:40.639 that would be fantastic 50 off for the 1:19:40.640,1:19:43.199 handshake 1:19:43.520,1:19:47.919 look at sir 3k who has a selling upgrade 1:19:47.920,1:19:50.238 and is now selling handshakes that went 1:19:50.239,1:19:51.759 fast i love it 1:19:51.760,1:19:54.079 love it love it we sweets are not good 1:19:54.080,1:19:56.079 marketing people we have to learn from 1:19:56.080,1:19:57.919 horrible from our friends across the 1:19:57.920,1:20:00.158 pond who are much better we think like 1:20:00.159,1:20:01.759 okay if we if we just sit in our 1:20:01.760,1:20:04.079 t-shirts people will buy that 1:20:04.080,1:20:05.759 but that's an excellent way to support 1:20:05.760,1:20:08.559 us is to buy merch from us look at the 1:20:08.560,1:20:10.559 selling upgrade on this box 1:20:10.560,1:20:13.599 my god isn't it beautiful where are we 1:20:13.600,1:20:15.359 so this is such an interesting 1:20:15.360,1:20:17.039 discussion we're having let's let's 1:20:17.040,1:20:18.479 let's try to 1:20:18.480,1:20:20.399 haul it back in 1:20:20.400,1:20:23.840 um so i i 1:20:24.639,1:20:27.359 the line of the drums 1:20:27.360,1:20:30.079 uh i've angled them 1:20:30.080,1:20:31.839 i've angled them a little bit like this 1:20:31.840,1:20:34.079 now but the fact to have things at the 1:20:34.080,1:20:35.359 straight line 1:20:35.360,1:20:38.638 is just the the easiest way for all the 1:20:38.639,1:20:40.399 dropping right 1:20:40.400,1:20:43.439 not only that but also for the 1:20:43.440,1:20:45.599 for the distance to the loop machine so 1:20:45.600,1:20:47.119 it's the same action on the kick drum 1:20:47.120,1:20:49.039 same action on this arm same space and 1:20:49.040,1:20:52.480 everything okay but 1:20:52.960,1:20:56.238 let's go to one of our images with a 1:20:56.239,1:20:57.519 mushroom 1:20:57.520,1:21:00.718 because another thing that wait let's go 1:21:00.719,1:21:03.678 here let's go to the 1:21:03.679,1:21:06.959 i can actually do that myself no oh wow 1:21:06.960,1:21:09.279 double one 1:21:09.280,1:21:10.799 so um 1:21:10.800,1:21:12.799 while you do that i just want to put up 1:21:12.800,1:21:15.119 here robert 1:21:15.120,1:21:17.839 i think you focus too much on drums i 1:21:17.840,1:21:19.759 think a really good vibraphone solution 1:21:19.760,1:21:22.559 with the sorta working mmx base is a 1:21:22.560,1:21:24.559 cool mvp 1:21:24.560,1:21:26.718 drums can be added later 1:21:26.719,1:21:29.359 i i i have that feeling as well robert i 1:21:29.360,1:21:31.678 i have this feeling that 1:21:31.679,1:21:32.479 like 1:21:32.480,1:21:34.718 imagine going to a concert and there's 1:21:34.719,1:21:36.309 an intro 1:21:36.310,1:21:37.139 [Music] 1:21:37.140,1:21:40.449 [Applause] 1:21:41.320,1:21:45.359 [Music] 1:21:45.360,1:21:47.469 all this is played by marbles 1:21:47.470,1:21:50.619 [Music] 1:21:51.199,1:21:53.359 no drums 1:21:53.360,1:21:54.638 and then we do 1:21:54.639,1:21:56.959 the program switch trick 1:21:56.960,1:22:00.159 and it's still only marbles 1:22:04.480,1:22:06.718 i showed this 100 times but what i mean 1:22:06.719,1:22:08.959 is that 1:22:08.960,1:22:10.559 this is why i want a full-size 1:22:10.560,1:22:11.759 vibraphone 1:22:11.760,1:22:13.519 it has to be a full-size vibraphone 1:22:13.520,1:22:15.839 kimuton yeah and you know what b 1:22:15.840,1:22:17.689 bootchamp accepts the deal 1:22:17.690,1:22:19.198 [Laughter] 1:22:19.199,1:22:21.039 wonderful vivo 1:22:21.040,1:22:22.559 um 1:22:22.560,1:22:24.479 fantastic and 1:22:24.480,1:22:27.759 i just realized the marble catcher 1:22:27.760,1:22:30.399 is also a red i just turned it red it's 1:22:30.400,1:22:32.718 also a red known unknown and that's 1:22:32.719,1:22:35.039 where i want to go to the circular um 1:22:35.040,1:22:35.999 sketch 1:22:36.000,1:22:39.919 can we pull that up sir 3k it's from the 1:22:39.920,1:22:42.638 no wait i have it in my um sketch pad 1:22:42.639,1:22:45.039 here because i sketched on the thing 1:22:45.040,1:22:46.479 here 1:22:46.480,1:22:47.599 oh yeah 1:22:47.600,1:22:49.119 let's see 1:22:49.120,1:22:50.839 there we go yeah 1:22:50.840,1:22:52.799 so 1:22:52.800,1:22:54.158 i'm 1:22:54.159,1:22:56.799 very worried about the marble uh 1:22:56.800,1:22:58.238 capturing 1:22:58.239,1:23:00.959 because i think it's gonna look ugly 1:23:00.960,1:23:01.919 and 1:23:01.920,1:23:04.320 um 1:23:04.560,1:23:07.039 to have 1:23:07.040,1:23:09.198 to have like a circular 1:23:09.199,1:23:10.638 cake thing 1:23:10.639,1:23:12.879 around the whole machine 1:23:12.880,1:23:15.599 and i come up like from a 1:23:15.600,1:23:18.399 huge musical birthday cake 1:23:18.400,1:23:19.599 um 1:23:19.600,1:23:22.239 it makes 1:23:22.400,1:23:25.040 so you remember 1:23:26.480,1:23:27.919 yes 1:23:27.920,1:23:30.238 exactly that's how that's that's exactly 1:23:30.239,1:23:32.158 i wanted you remember the joke with the 1:23:32.159,1:23:33.439 funnel 1:23:33.440,1:23:35.999 how can you ever forget it right 1:23:36.000,1:23:37.759 where did where where did we have it is 1:23:37.760,1:23:40.079 it here 1:23:40.080,1:23:41.678 let's get yes 1:23:41.679,1:23:44.480 it's in this cad 1:23:46.239,1:23:48.718 so we had this machine that we get in 1:23:48.719,1:23:50.559 the beginning yeah 1:23:50.560,1:23:52.718 um 1:23:52.719,1:23:54.238 and 1:23:54.239,1:23:55.119 then 1:23:55.120,1:23:57.119 i said like 1:23:57.120,1:24:00.799 that we solved the funnel issue 1:24:00.800,1:24:02.799 and it's still as funny as day and i 1:24:02.800,1:24:05.519 just mean if we go to that look at this 1:24:05.520,1:24:07.678 and go over to the sketch pad 1:24:07.679,1:24:09.439 it's the same yes 1:24:09.440,1:24:12.079 it's a brilliant idea and it's it would 1:24:12.080,1:24:14.559 just like 1:24:14.560,1:24:16.799 it's a way to turn this design 1:24:16.800,1:24:18.319 requirement of having something 1:24:18.320,1:24:19.919 capturing all the 1:24:19.920,1:24:22.158 all the um marbles 1:24:22.159,1:24:25.039 into kind of something beautiful 1:24:25.040,1:24:27.039 and 1:24:27.040,1:24:30.960 yeah it's a sean michelle shouted 1:24:43.280,1:24:46.238 i have adhd and love making music also 1:24:46.239,1:24:47.999 make a founder with holes to make a 1:24:48.000,1:24:50.638 circular vibraphone as i make a funnel 1:24:50.639,1:24:54.319 with holes to make a 1:24:54.320,1:24:56.959 circular vibraphone i'm 1:24:56.960,1:24:58.158 first of all i'm so happy for your 1:24:58.159,1:25:00.238 comment second of all i'm sorry your 1:25:00.239,1:25:03.439 username didn't it didn't work out 1:25:03.440,1:25:06.079 because i i failed with the mmx but this 1:25:06.080,1:25:10.079 is mmxt it's mmxt touring version now i 1:25:10.080,1:25:11.279 see it 1:25:11.280,1:25:13.599 still on point and valid 1:25:13.600,1:25:17.360 it's up to you martin to fail now 1:25:18.400,1:25:20.638 also make a funnel with holes to make a 1:25:20.639,1:25:23.359 circular vibrophone 1:25:23.360,1:25:26.360 so 1:25:27.120,1:25:28.879 let me let me sketch something about the 1:25:28.880,1:25:31.119 circular design that has been on my mind 1:25:31.120,1:25:33.439 um we're just brainstorming a high level 1:25:33.440,1:25:36.399 here if we have a circular vibraphone 1:25:36.400,1:25:37.678 the funnels 1:25:37.679,1:25:39.599 can be much larger because they are on 1:25:39.600,1:25:42.879 the outside of the perimeter so here 1:25:42.880,1:25:44.879 we have one measurement 1:25:44.880,1:25:47.039 but the funnels can be here and they can 1:25:47.040,1:25:48.638 be much larger 1:25:48.639,1:25:50.879 so with the circular vibraphone 1:25:50.880,1:25:52.399 we could potentially go back to 1:25:52.400,1:25:54.718 individual funnels which means that we 1:25:54.719,1:25:56.238 could go to this 1:25:56.239,1:25:58.079 feed 1:25:58.080,1:25:59.039 only 1:25:59.040,1:26:00.559 the red marbles 1:26:00.560,1:26:02.399 into the red channel 1:26:02.400,1:26:05.839 so there's a loop here which means 1:26:05.840,1:26:10.239 that we don't need a marble divider 1:26:10.719,1:26:14.879 so if it's true then we could um 1:26:14.880,1:26:19.679 so green marbles goes to green channel 1:26:20.080,1:26:21.678 with a circular design i have the 1:26:21.679,1:26:24.638 feeling and if i sketch it from the side 1:26:24.639,1:26:26.959 um i also have the feeling that we can 1:26:26.960,1:26:29.439 take back the cool funnel design if we 1:26:29.440,1:26:31.279 don't want the birthday cake 1:26:31.280,1:26:32.718 so if we have this 1:26:32.719,1:26:37.159 if we have the circular microphone here 1:26:39.679,1:26:41.599 a lot of engineers will be pissed off if 1:26:41.600,1:26:43.759 i'm going serious with this 1:26:43.760,1:26:45.119 um 1:26:45.120,1:26:47.198 that we can have like this and music 1:26:47.199,1:26:49.599 funnels coming back to us oh yeah the 1:26:49.600,1:26:53.279 flowers the the flowers that failed 1:26:53.280,1:26:56.799 the first flowers that ever failed 1:26:56.800,1:26:59.119 so i'm not drawing them so beautifully 1:26:59.120,1:27:01.039 here but 1:27:01.040,1:27:03.279 we get the point and we can have the 1:27:03.280,1:27:06.319 move when collecting 1:27:06.320,1:27:07.919 because 1:27:07.920,1:27:09.279 thanks to the fact that this distance 1:27:09.280,1:27:11.279 out here is much larger than the 1:27:11.280,1:27:13.919 distance in here 1:27:13.920,1:27:15.439 we could make the funnels big enough so 1:27:15.440,1:27:16.638 they are actually not missing the 1:27:16.639,1:27:19.439 marbles like on on 1:27:19.440,1:27:21.119 on the old and then 1:27:21.120,1:27:23.999 in this case i do want the plates to 1:27:24.000,1:27:28.719 move and imagine that the 1:27:29.040,1:27:30.879 resonator pipes 1:27:30.880,1:27:32.879 would be this church organ style so they 1:27:32.880,1:27:35.198 will be longer and they will be shorter 1:27:35.199,1:27:38.879 like this i mean it's so beautiful 1:27:38.880,1:27:41.839 true thing of butte 1:27:41.840,1:27:44.559 it's a true thing of you and then pute 1:27:44.560,1:27:46.399 and then we could continue 1:27:46.400,1:27:48.399 with the drums over here like like 1:27:48.400,1:27:51.279 people have suggested suggested 1:27:51.280,1:27:51.599 um 1:27:51.600,1:27:54.158 [Music] 1:27:54.159,1:27:59.000 and then i'm playing over here bass 1:28:00.480,1:28:02.559 there is something about this 1:28:02.560,1:28:05.439 yeah a slice of sport also commented 1:28:05.440,1:28:07.359 separating the vibraphone from the drums 1:28:07.360,1:28:09.599 should make it much easier to play 1:28:09.600,1:28:10.718 manually 1:28:10.719,1:28:13.198 imagine moving from the base over in 1:28:13.199,1:28:16.320 front of the vibe 1:28:16.639,1:28:18.960 yes 1:28:19.040,1:28:20.959 that's why i want the bass guitar next 1:28:20.960,1:28:22.799 to the vibraphone so i can just stretch 1:28:22.800,1:28:25.198 my hand and play like this 1:28:25.199,1:28:26.718 of course on the circular it's going to 1:28:26.719,1:28:28.638 be a little bit tricky 1:28:28.639,1:28:30.799 a circular chromatic 1:28:30.800,1:28:33.120 um 1:28:38.320,1:28:40.879 oh brilliant context question for us 1:28:40.880,1:28:43.359 here on vintage live as well 1:28:43.360,1:28:44.638 chief 1:28:44.639,1:28:47.439 asks here i love your channel i'm sure 1:28:47.440,1:28:48.959 you've answered this but will these 1:28:48.960,1:28:52.319 streams be edited at some point 1:28:52.320,1:28:54.479 i know these streams won't be edited but 1:28:54.480,1:28:56.959 over on the main wintergatan youtube 1:28:56.960,1:28:58.879 channel 1:28:58.880,1:29:01.919 we do weekly summaries of what we've 1:29:01.920,1:29:04.879 been doing this week somebody got on 1:29:04.880,1:29:05.999 live 1:29:06.000,1:29:08.959 so here we stream everything the whole 1:29:08.960,1:29:11.359 process and on wednesdays on the main 1:29:11.360,1:29:13.519 channel we summarize what's been going 1:29:13.520,1:29:16.559 on so if you want condensed versions 1:29:16.560,1:29:18.718 that's on wednesdays on the main 1:29:18.719,1:29:21.039 bintigota youtube channel 1:29:21.040,1:29:22.879 thank you so much 1:29:22.880,1:29:25.198 definitely thank you so much and i'm 1:29:25.199,1:29:27.919 trying to reign in this discussion too 1:29:27.920,1:29:30.319 maybe to get somewhere like what can we 1:29:30.320,1:29:31.919 get out of this 1:29:31.920,1:29:33.839 i really appreciate this discussion are 1:29:33.840,1:29:35.599 you just gonna derail me a little bit oh 1:29:35.600,1:29:39.198 yeah okay good so this is um all credit 1:29:39.199,1:29:40.718 to path methini 1:29:40.719,1:29:42.238 but 1:29:42.239,1:29:43.999 this is why i don't want to use 1:29:44.000,1:29:46.238 solenoids of course you have to go and 1:29:46.239,1:29:49.119 look at it it looks like any music 1:29:49.120,1:29:51.839 so this is a modular thing so pat is 1:29:51.840,1:29:53.359 standing in the middle oh there's the 1:29:53.360,1:29:54.959 mallet machine you're right i should not 1:29:54.960,1:29:57.919 build a mallet machine there we go 1:29:57.920,1:29:59.919 so they built all these mechanical 1:29:59.920,1:30:01.678 instruments 1:30:01.679,1:30:03.839 and they're standing everywhere apart 1:30:03.840,1:30:06.959 from where pat is and they put a drum 1:30:06.960,1:30:08.638 and they put a lamp i think on the drum 1:30:08.639,1:30:10.479 kit so the lamp is lighting up when the 1:30:10.480,1:30:12.079 kick is played 1:30:12.080,1:30:13.599 i don't know if this this looks like 1:30:13.600,1:30:15.919 it's filmed like any music do you think 1:30:15.920,1:30:18.718 this was inspired by pipe dream as well 1:30:18.719,1:30:22.319 and the 2013 2010 yeah it's after 1:30:22.320,1:30:24.479 pipedream i think 1:30:24.480,1:30:27.359 they have the tubular belts there and as 1:30:27.360,1:30:29.759 you can see like it's um 1:30:29.760,1:30:33.560 the piano is self-playing 1:30:34.880,1:30:36.559 also the mallets and the mallets are 1:30:36.560,1:30:38.238 actually obstructing the vibraphone did 1:30:38.239,1:30:40.559 you see how they built it um from two 1:30:40.560,1:30:42.559 sides there yeah 1:30:42.560,1:30:44.880 um 1:30:44.960,1:30:46.559 it's a little bit un 1:30:46.560,1:30:49.279 unfair to critique sound music video 1:30:49.280,1:30:52.159 with no sound 1:30:52.400,1:30:53.599 but 1:30:53.600,1:30:56.559 but the feeling that he so this is just 1:30:56.560,1:30:58.079 this is the feeling that i don't want 1:30:58.080,1:31:00.399 people to get when they go to our tour 1:31:00.400,1:31:03.678 it should not be like it should not be 1:31:03.679,1:31:05.039 so let's 1:31:05.040,1:31:06.479 let's say that we have 1:31:06.480,1:31:09.439 absolutely decided that it's not modular 1:31:09.440,1:31:11.919 in the sense with separate modules 1:31:11.920,1:31:13.599 standing far away from each other we 1:31:13.600,1:31:15.599 don't want to build that it has to be 1:31:15.600,1:31:17.919 one thing 1:31:17.920,1:31:19.678 yep can you go forward to see if the 1:31:19.679,1:31:21.279 drums um 1:31:21.280,1:31:23.359 are playing so we can see the so see we 1:31:23.360,1:31:26.238 can see the lights of the drums 1:31:26.239,1:31:28.559 let's see if something happens here 1:31:28.560,1:31:30.479 oh that's a sliding that's a cool thing 1:31:30.480,1:31:32.079 though look how it's sliding i think 1:31:32.080,1:31:33.999 it's making like chords and stuff i have 1:31:34.000,1:31:35.599 to go watch this 1:31:35.600,1:31:38.479 uh with sound after the stream 1:31:38.480,1:31:39.839 um 1:31:39.840,1:31:42.158 the self playing piano oh 1:31:42.159,1:31:43.919 they have oh we have to check this out 1:31:43.920,1:31:46.320 actually 1:31:47.040,1:31:47.919 but 1:31:47.920,1:31:48.959 yeah 1:31:48.960,1:31:52.319 bringing that on tour that's easy 1:31:52.320,1:31:55.440 oh there's a vibraphone 1:31:55.920,1:31:58.079 so there's solenoids this is a solenoid 1:31:58.080,1:32:00.079 party and like 1:32:00.080,1:32:02.400 um 1:32:02.480,1:32:05.279 and also of course i think 1:32:05.280,1:32:07.279 the light engineer 1:32:07.280,1:32:09.439 should have been fired before they 1:32:09.440,1:32:11.839 filmed this video you cannot see 1:32:11.840,1:32:13.359 anything no 1:32:13.360,1:32:15.519 give give it just white light 1:32:15.520,1:32:17.439 and this video would have been viral 1:32:17.440,1:32:20.479 give it these like stupid search lights 1:32:20.480,1:32:21.279 and 1:32:21.280,1:32:23.039 how many because it's not interesting 1:32:23.040,1:32:25.198 they need to do something with the light 1:32:25.199,1:32:27.198 boom 1:32:27.199,1:32:28.559 oh that's maybe 1:32:28.560,1:32:30.319 how i love patent athena yeah that's 1:32:30.320,1:32:31.759 that's really really cool it's taking 1:32:31.760,1:32:33.279 everything back how many views does the 1:32:33.280,1:32:34.319 video have 1:32:34.320,1:32:36.559 three hundred thousand yeah that's why 1:32:36.560,1:32:38.399 you have like not even one percent of 1:32:38.400,1:32:40.158 the machine video because the lightning 1:32:40.159,1:32:42.319 shows that's why you have floor painted 1:32:42.320,1:32:44.879 floor painting paper from bltm in your 1:32:44.880,1:32:47.198 music video that's how you make it viral 1:32:47.199,1:32:50.079 folks look at the cookie swedes 1:32:50.080,1:32:52.158 pat is wonderful i saw patmenting in 1:32:52.159,1:32:55.678 plainlivens.com actually zg1 like a big 1:32:55.679,1:32:58.559 organ register like left the base middle 1:32:58.560,1:33:01.279 vibrate and right drums in a wrinkled 1:33:01.280,1:33:04.319 half square 1:33:04.320,1:33:06.879 like left bass middle vibrophone and 1:33:06.880,1:33:09.519 drag drums in like a big organ register 1:33:09.520,1:33:12.079 yeah i like this uh we called half 1:33:12.080,1:33:14.238 square it's it's the 1:33:14.239,1:33:17.839 it's a 90 degree solution i think 1:33:17.840,1:33:18.718 so 1:33:18.719,1:33:21.999 how do we summarize all our collective 1:33:22.000,1:33:25.119 thoughts um first i just have more more 1:33:25.120,1:33:27.839 here oh wow dynamic commander remember 1:33:27.840,1:33:29.678 that the crowd watching the show would 1:33:29.679,1:33:32.479 be placed on a lower height than machine 1:33:32.480,1:33:33.839 catching marbles in front of the 1:33:33.840,1:33:36.718 vibraphone will block view 1:33:36.719,1:33:41.520 that's also very very very true um 1:33:42.400,1:33:45.439 one idea that is interesting is if we 1:33:45.440,1:33:46.879 can angle 1:33:46.880,1:33:48.559 and i was thinking about that actually 1:33:48.560,1:33:50.959 regards to that's a good that's a good 1:33:50.960,1:33:52.718 thought so if we if we go to the sketch 1:33:52.719,1:33:53.599 pad 1:33:53.600,1:33:56.479 so say the marble comes down here 1:33:56.480,1:33:57.599 if we make 1:33:57.600,1:34:00.559 more of an angle this time 1:34:00.560,1:34:04.238 um then the volume will be less but then 1:34:04.239,1:34:06.238 the marble will move 1:34:06.239,1:34:08.718 straight down right away i'm painting 1:34:08.719,1:34:10.799 outside there 1:34:10.800,1:34:13.039 um 1:34:13.040,1:34:15.919 but then the resonator will be in 1:34:15.920,1:34:18.399 and if we then have a circular 1:34:18.400,1:34:19.919 arrangement 1:34:19.920,1:34:22.238 these resonators will start to collide 1:34:22.239,1:34:24.959 so they have to be far apart so so so 1:34:24.960,1:34:26.799 they can fit 1:34:26.800,1:34:29.599 good sketching here 1:34:29.600,1:34:32.479 and that will also be very visual 1:34:32.480,1:34:34.158 because then we can have the funnels 1:34:34.159,1:34:36.399 below 1:34:36.400,1:34:39.198 to not obstruct the view yeah 1:34:39.199,1:34:40.718 i think on big shows we're going to have 1:34:40.719,1:34:42.959 like cameras also on big screens and 1:34:42.960,1:34:45.118 stuff like that but you do want 1:34:45.119,1:34:47.599 want to see the machine 1:34:47.600,1:34:49.839 yeah absolutely and a follow-up from 1:34:49.840,1:34:51.999 chief here oh good thank you so much 1:34:52.000,1:34:53.678 again just love your content and wish 1:34:53.679,1:34:54.959 you the best seeing you working to 1:34:54.960,1:34:58.079 achieve your dream is so awesome thank 1:34:58.080,1:35:00.718 you so much i'm 1:35:00.719,1:35:03.119 i am 1:35:03.199,1:35:05.919 right now i don't know if this 1:35:05.920,1:35:07.198 is a dream 1:35:07.199,1:35:10.158 that it will be only a pipe dream or or 1:35:10.159,1:35:12.879 if it can actually be something so 1:35:12.880,1:35:14.399 where do we summarize where we're 1:35:14.400,1:35:16.879 standing i wanna i wanna show you once 1:35:16.880,1:35:19.279 again where we started 1:35:19.280,1:35:21.359 um 1:35:21.360,1:35:23.439 this 1:35:23.440,1:35:25.599 and i think 1:35:25.600,1:35:27.439 the upcoming week 1:35:27.440,1:35:29.359 or weeks 1:35:29.360,1:35:30.638 i'm going to 1:35:30.639,1:35:34.639 keep on dive deeper in this 1:35:34.800,1:35:36.079 i 1:35:36.080,1:35:38.479 the bowden hydraulics means if we can 1:35:38.480,1:35:39.839 put an instrument 1:35:39.840,1:35:41.759 long further away from the programming 1:35:41.760,1:35:42.799 wheel 1:35:42.800,1:35:45.439 and the marble size and materials means 1:35:45.440,1:35:48.959 how much width do we need between gates 1:35:48.960,1:35:51.519 if i want big marbles like this 30 or 40 1:35:51.520,1:35:54.079 millimeters the gates naturally have to 1:35:54.080,1:35:56.399 be more wide apart 1:35:56.400,1:35:57.919 and yeah 1:35:57.920,1:36:00.399 i don't know 1:36:00.400,1:36:03.118 the mvp minimum viable product for the 1:36:03.119,1:36:05.678 audience or for martian thing this is 1:36:05.679,1:36:07.198 basically 1:36:07.199,1:36:09.118 i start to really understand why people 1:36:09.119,1:36:10.799 have said you have to write to sign 1:36:10.800,1:36:13.039 requirements before designing 1:36:13.040,1:36:15.519 so that's why i think in the upcoming 1:36:15.520,1:36:17.359 weeks 1:36:17.360,1:36:19.359 it's going to be a lot of sketching 1:36:19.360,1:36:21.999 and a lot of design requirement thinking 1:36:22.000,1:36:23.439 what do you think 1:36:23.440,1:36:25.118 what what is what are your high level 1:36:25.119,1:36:27.279 thoughts right now sir 3k about the 1:36:27.280,1:36:29.118 design 1:36:29.119,1:36:30.638 uh 1:36:30.639,1:36:33.039 okay yeah i'm reading chat so much so i 1:36:33.040,1:36:34.559 get influenced over there as well but i 1:36:34.560,1:36:36.238 see a lot of 1:36:36.239,1:36:38.559 uh like we talked about a hybrid between 1:36:38.560,1:36:42.639 the two a and two b ones 1:36:42.719,1:36:44.638 with all the sign 1:36:44.639,1:36:47.599 uh yeah let's go back to 1:36:47.600,1:36:49.519 yeah this is this is this is a good 1:36:49.520,1:36:51.839 summary 1:36:51.840,1:36:53.849 right here the 2a and 2b 1:36:53.850,1:36:56.899 [Music] 1:36:57.119,1:36:59.759 i i think where i'm sitting right now 1:36:59.760,1:37:02.638 version 1 another machine x 1:37:02.639,1:37:05.439 excluded version 3 completely modular 1:37:05.440,1:37:09.679 patentee orchestrion style excluded 1:37:10.320,1:37:13.678 big all-in-one sections not modules 1:37:13.679,1:37:18.079 square 90 degrees or circular 1:37:18.080,1:37:21.919 or a combination yeah i would uh we need 1:37:21.920,1:37:24.799 to think about all the placement of can 1:37:24.800,1:37:27.599 we play stuff on the side 1:37:27.600,1:37:31.040 can we play stuff in the back 1:37:32.159,1:37:36.079 safe space what is the time 1920 1:37:36.080,1:37:38.479 you know what i want to do 1:37:38.480,1:37:40.879 i want to do i want to do a 90 degree as 1:37:40.880,1:37:42.879 as fast as i can 1:37:42.880,1:37:44.079 uh 1:37:44.080,1:37:47.039 absolutely see if this cat want to work 1:37:47.040,1:37:49.599 with me let's take this 1:37:49.600,1:37:53.519 and let's turn it into a 90 degree thing 1:37:53.520,1:37:56.799 because i think i can actually move 1:37:56.800,1:37:58.959 okay i'm gonna give you a better better 1:37:58.960,1:38:01.520 better 1:38:03.130,1:38:06.199 [Music] 1:38:07.040,1:38:10.639 90 degree solution for the wind 1:38:11.600,1:38:13.999 i'm gonna show you the 90 degree i've 1:38:14.000,1:38:17.840 excluded it from my um 1:38:18.159,1:38:21.039 from my mind 1:38:21.040,1:38:23.359 toby instead of these 1:38:23.360,1:38:26.158 four options one two three you could do 1:38:26.159,1:38:28.079 something in between two a and two b in 1:38:28.080,1:38:29.839 front a straight vibraphone off the 1:38:29.840,1:38:32.238 shelf and on the sides a bit circular 1:38:32.239,1:38:34.479 like the bass and the drums 1:38:34.480,1:38:37.198 that's also very very interesting 1:38:37.199,1:38:39.039 so there is something with this design 1:38:39.040,1:38:40.559 it doesn't oh maybe it's because i have 1:38:40.560,1:38:43.198 to save it hang on is that why i can't 1:38:43.199,1:38:45.759 move things 1:38:45.760,1:38:47.919 why why don't you allow me to move this 1:38:47.920,1:38:50.080 i'm 1:38:50.159,1:38:53.520 it's so strange i think 1:38:53.840,1:38:56.158 satish kumar you should do a decision 1:38:56.159,1:38:58.559 matrix on this 1:38:58.560,1:39:00.319 ah interesting 1:39:00.320,1:39:01.919 you see chad has also learned our 1:39:01.920,1:39:03.678 viewers have learned now that's how you 1:39:03.679,1:39:07.840 do the tough decisions do a matrix 1:39:08.000,1:39:10.238 there's something with this 1:39:10.239,1:39:12.638 there's something here why why am i not 1:39:12.639,1:39:14.158 allowed to move 1:39:14.159,1:39:18.399 things here this one i can move 1:39:18.400,1:39:20.238 this one doesn't allow me to move is 1:39:20.239,1:39:21.999 there a rigid group or something 1:39:22.000,1:39:24.480 somewhere 1:39:25.520,1:39:28.319 i can move this one 1:39:28.320,1:39:32.320 but if i try to it won't go 1:39:35.760,1:39:38.399 and i kill the design history maybe if i 1:39:38.400,1:39:41.198 start the design history again 1:39:41.199,1:39:44.639 fusion is not working with me 1:39:44.880,1:39:47.279 no no 1:39:47.280,1:39:49.198 so i have to copy it and paste it again 1:39:49.199,1:39:50.879 i can do that 1:39:50.880,1:39:55.639 copy the whanau atsalini 1:40:01.360,1:40:03.999 thank you so much thank you so much 1:40:04.000,1:40:06.718 i managed to do a 1:40:06.719,1:40:09.439 workaround this is not this is not that 1:40:09.440,1:40:11.039 bad 1:40:11.040,1:40:12.799 this is maybe not that bad maybe there 1:40:12.800,1:40:15.198 is something to this 1:40:15.199,1:40:17.919 because what i really want is to not 1:40:17.920,1:40:20.879 have things on top of each other 1:40:20.880,1:40:23.279 so what happens now is i can 1:40:23.280,1:40:26.399 you like it i'm starting to getting some 1:40:26.400,1:40:28.559 minor goosebumps appearing 1:40:28.560,1:40:31.840 minor goosebumps 1:40:33.199,1:40:34.718 most of all 1:40:34.719,1:40:36.479 the machine itself will become like an 1:40:36.480,1:40:39.359 acoustic wall between the snare and the 1:40:39.360,1:40:41.198 vibraphone 1:40:41.199,1:40:43.118 um so i can put a snare on the side 1:40:43.119,1:40:45.519 where the height is i this doesn't look 1:40:45.520,1:40:47.760 bad 1:40:49.199,1:40:50.638 and let me just 1:40:50.639,1:40:53.760 put the snare in there 1:40:53.920,1:40:56.559 hey little stick bass 1:40:56.560,1:40:59.279 get over here get over here 1:40:59.280,1:41:00.718 get your ugly 1:41:00.719,1:41:02.879 face over here 1:41:02.880,1:41:05.439 little duckling 1:41:05.440,1:41:08.560 it's ugly duckling 1:41:10.800,1:41:13.359 you know what i don't hate it 1:41:13.360,1:41:15.599 no i know 1:41:15.600,1:41:18.959 because when when you look at it from 1:41:18.960,1:41:21.439 when you look at it from here 1:41:21.440,1:41:22.479 there we go 1:41:22.480,1:41:25.919 gmp 612 yes i love it 1:41:25.920,1:41:27.689 hang on [ __ ] we need to 1:41:27.690,1:41:29.198 [Music] 1:41:29.199,1:41:31.839 angle this fusion please let me angle 1:41:31.840,1:41:35.359 this okay so some some designs have some 1:41:35.360,1:41:36.238 uh 1:41:36.239,1:41:38.319 restrictions for some reason 1:41:38.320,1:41:40.718 so the loop wheel did you see what i did 1:41:40.719,1:41:42.959 i put it in a 90 degree angle because it 1:41:42.960,1:41:44.079 has to be 1:41:44.080,1:41:47.118 perpendicular to to the drums 1:41:47.119,1:41:50.559 so and magnus surrender loves it also he 1:41:50.560,1:41:52.559 has been posting suggestions i remember 1:41:52.560,1:41:54.559 that name we recognize you among us from 1:41:54.560,1:41:56.718 your great suggestions so so fun that 1:41:56.719,1:41:58.839 you're here live 1:41:58.840,1:42:01.839 um and this is pretty cool like imagine 1:42:01.840,1:42:04.718 seeing this wheel turning turning like 1:42:04.719,1:42:07.118 this and seeing this returning like holy 1:42:07.119,1:42:10.479 moly you like it yes 1:42:10.480,1:42:12.479 it has complexity without it being 1:42:12.480,1:42:14.879 complex right because they're going to 1:42:14.880,1:42:19.439 work pretty simple but it looks complex 1:42:19.440,1:42:22.238 listen to circle 3k it adds complexity 1:42:22.239,1:42:26.239 without it being complex wow 1:42:26.480,1:42:27.759 so now 1:42:27.760,1:42:31.759 i can move this uh friend 1:42:31.760,1:42:33.519 in here 1:42:33.520,1:42:37.118 esteban pratt perfect 1:42:37.119,1:42:39.039 and this says it all 1:42:39.040,1:42:42.040 bency 1:42:42.400,1:42:45.839 all the smiley emojis 1:42:45.840,1:42:48.159 um 1:42:48.320,1:42:51.118 well it's a little bit of a joy joy joy 1:42:51.119,1:42:53.198 calculation now because i don't know if 1:42:53.199,1:42:54.799 we can fit 1:42:54.800,1:42:56.879 that many programming tracks on this 1:42:56.880,1:42:59.839 small wheel yes yes yes yes yes yes so 1:42:59.840,1:43:01.919 let me try to 1:43:01.920,1:43:04.799 make you all a little bit maybe less 1:43:04.800,1:43:06.399 excited 1:43:06.400,1:43:08.879 marcus off man finally what the chat has 1:43:08.880,1:43:12.400 been screaming for days 1:43:13.040,1:43:15.919 um that's fun um 1:43:15.920,1:43:18.238 i'm going to just make the 1:43:18.239,1:43:20.959 wheel a little bit larger 1:43:20.960,1:43:24.479 i'm just going to put it out there 1:43:24.480,1:43:27.519 mike kelly perfect perfect example of 1:43:27.520,1:43:31.440 form from function okay yeah 1:43:33.119,1:43:35.678 imagine this angle you're you're seeing 1:43:35.679,1:43:38.879 like the drums play let me just make a 1:43:38.880,1:43:41.198 pattern on this drum beater 1:43:41.199,1:43:43.439 because that is going to make this this 1:43:43.440,1:43:45.039 is gonna make people fall in love with 1:43:45.040,1:43:46.638 this angle 1:43:46.639,1:43:48.319 um 1:43:48.320,1:43:49.919 so i'm just gonna 1:43:49.920,1:43:53.678 do a lot of bitters here let's do 1:43:53.679,1:43:55.118 10 1:43:55.119,1:43:57.198 now 1:43:57.199,1:44:00.080 let's do 10. 1:44:01.520,1:44:03.479 sometimes 1:44:03.480,1:44:06.479 [Laughter] 1:44:06.480,1:44:09.279 uh i have to redo that sorry for this 1:44:09.280,1:44:11.359 select directions 1:44:11.360,1:44:13.999 this direction and i 1:44:14.000,1:44:16.799 drag it out 1:44:16.800,1:44:20.079 and we need 1:44:20.080,1:44:22.479 let me just 1:44:22.480,1:44:25.359 nikita kutsulev it seems very difficult 1:44:25.360,1:44:27.359 to change the bottom wheel and that's 1:44:27.360,1:44:29.198 the beautiful thing that is not going to 1:44:29.199,1:44:31.118 be changed right 1:44:31.119,1:44:32.399 yeah it is going to be changed it's 1:44:32.400,1:44:34.399 going to be changed nikita you're 1:44:34.400,1:44:37.279 absolutely correct um well let's work on 1:44:37.280,1:44:40.159 that next time 1:44:45.360,1:44:47.519 yeah that's something we have to figure 1:44:47.520,1:44:48.399 out 1:44:48.400,1:44:49.839 um yeah 1:44:49.840,1:44:52.079 one step at a time this is just we're 1:44:52.080,1:44:55.359 getting a feel of is this even possible 1:44:55.360,1:44:56.959 yeah 1:44:56.960,1:44:59.839 aesthetic wise and work wise i'm going 1:44:59.840,1:45:02.479 to move the registrator assembly over 1:45:02.480,1:45:06.319 to the correct position like there 1:45:06.320,1:45:09.279 boom looks better 1:45:09.280,1:45:14.239 and i want to base a little bit closer 1:45:14.880,1:45:18.559 uh but maybe that's hopium 1:45:18.560,1:45:21.759 and i really want to 1:45:21.760,1:45:23.118 um 1:45:23.119,1:45:25.839 i want two rows of the vibraphone 1:45:25.840,1:45:27.198 let me 1:45:27.199,1:45:31.599 let me at least look at it one last time 1:45:31.600,1:45:35.118 here we go marvel machine three everyone 1:45:35.119,1:45:37.999 thanks for watching 1:45:38.000,1:45:40.638 now this is fun but it it's it's going 1:45:40.639,1:45:41.049 to be 1:45:41.050,1:45:43.279 [Music] 1:45:43.280,1:45:46.718 it's going to be a lot of so the fly 1:45:46.719,1:45:49.199 will you 1:45:50.400,1:45:53.599 oh i just had a i just had a crazy idea 1:45:53.600,1:45:56.479 i love those check this out 1:45:56.480,1:45:58.799 because this flywheel is the proudest 1:45:58.800,1:46:02.158 thing on the machine for me 1:46:02.159,1:46:04.319 what if 1:46:04.320,1:46:08.479 we move it into prime position 1:46:08.480,1:46:10.959 it should probably be low but i'm going 1:46:10.960,1:46:14.879 let me let me just entertain the thought 1:46:14.880,1:46:15.678 so 1:46:15.679,1:46:16.718 we're 1:46:16.719,1:46:18.319 we're moving it up 1:46:18.320,1:46:20.559 here 1:46:20.560,1:46:21.759 oh 1:46:21.760,1:46:25.198 like and because there it's like it's 1:46:25.199,1:46:27.599 because the flywheel is the ticking 1:46:27.600,1:46:29.759 thing inside a clock like it's it's the 1:46:29.760,1:46:33.118 thing that makes this all this possible 1:46:33.119,1:46:34.879 and i've been dreaming about showcasing 1:46:34.880,1:46:37.439 this flywheel ever since i started to 1:46:37.440,1:46:39.999 think about the machine i'm just gonna 1:46:40.000,1:46:42.638 uh get everything else oh yeah and i 1:46:42.639,1:46:44.879 totally agree with tessa here 1:46:44.880,1:46:47.919 oh my god this opens up so much space 1:46:47.920,1:46:50.719 for cup holders 1:46:51.600,1:46:54.959 test size part t-rex a team t-rex test 1:46:54.960,1:46:56.238 someone said that 1:46:56.239,1:46:57.678 with a cup holder on the machine you 1:46:57.679,1:46:59.519 would actually see how much vibrations 1:46:59.520,1:47:01.279 are incurring 1:47:01.280,1:47:03.039 are in the machine 1:47:03.040,1:47:06.019 that is true tessa 1:47:06.020,1:47:07.999 [Laughter] 1:47:08.000,1:47:09.439 that's funny 1:47:09.440,1:47:10.479 so 1:47:10.480,1:47:12.799 uh with the flywheel up there let me 1:47:12.800,1:47:16.560 just remove the flywheel down here 1:47:20.080,1:47:23.439 i'm getting a little bit giddy over here 1:47:23.440,1:47:25.519 it's almost like the circular thing 1:47:25.520,1:47:28.319 without being circular yeah 1:47:28.320,1:47:30.429 and of course like the top view 1:47:30.430,1:47:31.519 [Music] 1:47:31.520,1:47:33.118 the top view is just going to be 1:47:33.119,1:47:36.079 gorgeous look at this 1:47:36.080,1:47:37.919 yes 1:47:37.920,1:47:40.639 yes 1:47:44.560,1:47:46.319 and retro wave like with all the 1:47:46.320,1:47:48.799 arpeggios like 1:47:48.800,1:47:50.919 like we're on there 1:47:50.920,1:47:56.930 [Music] 1:47:59.480,1:48:02.670 [Music] 1:48:04.960,1:48:07.999 but it's hope you maybe maybe not maybe 1:48:08.000,1:48:10.159 not 1:48:13.760,1:48:16.158 nice like camera action when you when 1:48:16.159,1:48:19.840 you kind of fly here like 1:48:27.920,1:48:30.718 it is fun actually it is fun 1:48:30.719,1:48:33.198 what have we solved 1:48:33.199,1:48:34.879 the instruments are not on top of each 1:48:34.880,1:48:39.359 other that is that's that's something 1:48:39.360,1:48:41.679 um 1:48:42.159,1:48:45.359 desert pillar h3k excitement levels are 1:48:45.360,1:48:47.279 on point for sure and you know what they 1:48:47.280,1:48:49.198 are not faked 1:48:49.199,1:48:51.439 at all this is just genuine happiness 1:48:51.440,1:48:53.359 coming out of me 1:48:53.360,1:48:54.638 it 1:48:54.639,1:48:56.479 it's even more endearing for me in the 1:48:56.480,1:48:58.959 room because hannes know that i've been 1:48:58.960,1:49:00.959 tensed for two days so what he's 1:49:00.960,1:49:04.238 actually happy about is that he sees me 1:49:04.239,1:49:06.879 feeling a little bit better 1:49:06.880,1:49:08.959 plus that i think you love the look at 1:49:08.960,1:49:11.839 the machine let's turn the camera to 1:49:11.840,1:49:14.238 orthographic then it's not so cool okay 1:49:14.239,1:49:17.359 let's go back to perspective then see i 1:49:17.360,1:49:21.679 unlike the stream to like it again 1:49:22.159,1:49:24.479 that's that's brilliant that's a good 1:49:24.480,1:49:26.238 place for a reminder from me 1:49:26.239,1:49:28.959 if there are any new viewers please you 1:49:28.960,1:49:30.559 subscribe to this channel so you get all 1:49:30.560,1:49:32.479 the live stream notifications and also 1:49:32.480,1:49:34.238 like the videos because that helps us 1:49:34.239,1:49:36.158 tremendously actually so thank you so 1:49:36.159,1:49:37.839 much 1:49:37.840,1:49:41.960 for that unlocking and liking 1:49:42.159,1:49:45.439 a gonsonator says flywheel should be 1:49:45.440,1:49:49.359 lower for stability yeah yeah 1:49:49.360,1:49:51.039 there are trade-offs to be made here as 1:49:51.040,1:49:53.598 well but it's fun to explore this 1:49:53.599,1:49:55.839 i've been hearing it in chat a lot and 1:49:55.840,1:49:57.359 i've been thinking of it as well just to 1:49:57.360,1:49:59.198 see the possibilities with this 1:49:59.199,1:50:01.279 is exciting 1:50:01.280,1:50:01.999 so 1:50:02.000,1:50:04.238 regarding the flywheel i didn't think of 1:50:04.239,1:50:05.519 it actually 1:50:05.520,1:50:08.799 but you will really see it as well if 1:50:08.800,1:50:11.198 it's down there where it was 1:50:11.199,1:50:12.959 because um 1:50:12.960,1:50:16.719 let me see the drive train 1:50:17.119,1:50:19.198 i think it's this one i just have to 1:50:19.199,1:50:21.039 locate it 1:50:21.040,1:50:25.359 i'm going to put the old flywheel on 1:50:25.360,1:50:28.079 here so 1:50:28.080,1:50:29.839 when you're here if the flywheel is big 1:50:29.840,1:50:32.479 enough you will sense it rotating behind 1:50:32.480,1:50:35.198 the drums as well 1:50:35.199,1:50:37.039 so maybe form from function it should be 1:50:37.040,1:50:39.839 down there 1:50:39.840,1:50:42.079 and as bee boot champ says you know what 1:50:42.080,1:50:43.999 to say about incredibly dangerous 1:50:44.000,1:50:46.718 spinning metal flywheels always put them 1:50:46.719,1:50:48.959 as high as possible and ideally at head 1:50:48.960,1:50:51.960 heights 1:50:52.480,1:50:54.238 bibo i listened to you about the hammer 1:50:54.239,1:50:56.238 jammer i'm not sure i should listen this 1:50:56.239,1:50:57.839 time 1:50:57.840,1:50:59.519 um 1:50:59.520,1:51:01.519 well everyone this was 1:51:01.520,1:51:02.638 [Music] 1:51:02.639,1:51:04.479 this gives us all something to think 1:51:04.480,1:51:05.439 about 1:51:05.440,1:51:07.279 i think if we go back quickly to the 1:51:07.280,1:51:09.198 sketch pad 1:51:09.199,1:51:11.039 i think we're kind of in that middle 1:51:11.040,1:51:13.919 section with this one yeah we're kind of 1:51:13.920,1:51:15.198 in um 1:51:15.199,1:51:17.759 it's actually the 2c let's actually 1:51:17.760,1:51:19.118 let's actually 1:51:19.119,1:51:21.759 2c 1:51:21.760,1:51:25.039 is the 90 degree 1:51:25.040,1:51:29.039 tick tick tick tick tick in drums here 1:51:29.040,1:51:31.439 i like how that last sketch is 1:51:31.440,1:51:32.959 smallest 1:51:32.960,1:51:35.359 so we're kind of in that territory now 1:51:35.360,1:51:38.079 where um 1:51:38.080,1:51:41.360 it doesn't feel 1:51:41.840,1:51:44.718 module it doesn't feel modular it has it 1:51:44.719,1:51:47.960 it has 1:51:48.480,1:51:49.919 let's put this 1:51:49.920,1:51:50.779 next to 1:51:50.780,1:51:52.638 [Music] 1:51:52.639,1:51:55.919 i'm going to take a screenshot of this 1:51:55.920,1:51:58.079 here 1:51:58.080,1:52:00.399 and then 1:52:00.400,1:52:03.840 i'm going to open up 1:52:13.119,1:52:15.678 let can you entertain the audience when 1:52:15.679,1:52:16.718 i make 1:52:16.719,1:52:20.399 one thing here what are you asking of me 1:52:20.400,1:52:24.239 now that i'm at my happiest 1:52:24.400,1:52:27.519 and foundations here says to me hannes 1:52:27.520,1:52:29.039 please check the discord live stream 1:52:29.040,1:52:30.959 chat for a suggestion i will take a look 1:52:30.960,1:52:32.959 at that off stream 1:52:32.960,1:52:34.759 uh where we 1:52:34.760,1:52:37.439 soonish finished here so 1:52:37.440,1:52:39.678 but thank you so much i will take a look 1:52:39.679,1:52:42.000 at it 1:52:42.880,1:52:45.439 okay i'm gonna i'm gonna do this 1:52:45.440,1:52:47.919 and i'm just gonna prepare something for 1:52:47.920,1:52:49.118 you all 1:52:49.119,1:52:51.118 something to leave you all on a high 1:52:51.119,1:52:54.399 note here yeah um 1:52:54.400,1:52:56.479 lucas vandal says it by the way you 1:52:56.480,1:52:58.399 don't need the belt's pulley to be on 1:52:58.400,1:53:01.198 the same size of the barrel or same side 1:53:01.199,1:53:04.880 of the barrel i think he means right 1:53:06.560,1:53:07.479 and 1:53:07.480,1:53:10.399 cypunk215 try different orientations of 1:53:10.400,1:53:13.519 the instruments then rework the frame 1:53:13.520,1:53:15.840 yes 1:53:18.080,1:53:18.879 wow 1:53:18.880,1:53:20.879 this makes me happy at least 1:53:20.880,1:53:25.239 experimenting a little bit woohoo 1:53:30.000,1:53:32.319 one second yeah it's going to be worth 1:53:32.320,1:53:33.519 it 1:53:33.520,1:53:36.158 i know it's going to be 1:53:36.159,1:53:37.839 let me just 1:53:37.840,1:53:41.198 do this and nikolas stabelini double fly 1:53:41.199,1:53:43.999 wheel size and put it on the other side 1:53:44.000,1:53:45.999 double it 1:53:46.000,1:53:48.719 even bigger 1:53:50.000,1:53:51.759 and i see a lot of people has uploaded 1:53:51.760,1:53:54.319 sketches to dropbox and we will look at 1:53:54.320,1:53:57.519 them perhaps off stream we can't always 1:53:57.520,1:54:00.158 bring them up live here 1:54:00.159,1:54:02.158 but thank you so much for 1:54:02.159,1:54:04.399 suggesting stuff to us 1:54:04.400,1:54:06.879 you are the greatest crowd to have and 1:54:06.880,1:54:09.439 you're so kind and generous a lot of 1:54:09.440,1:54:11.039 super chats today 1:54:11.040,1:54:13.598 which is a 1:54:13.599,1:54:15.439 a way that you can contribute to us 1:54:15.440,1:54:17.118 since when 1:54:17.119,1:54:19.039 martin closed down patreon and 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related you know what put just hearts in 1:55:04.560,1:55:07.598 my eyes right now you love it this is 1:55:07.599,1:55:08.879 gonna be great 1:55:08.880,1:55:11.439 yeah and what else is great is that 1:55:11.440,1:55:13.279 having this process with you live is 1:55:13.280,1:55:16.799 making me very much happy i went from 1:55:16.800,1:55:21.919 i'm went from either skeptic to uh 1:55:21.920,1:55:25.118 careful um carefully optimistic yes 1:55:25.119,1:55:26.799 something like this 1:55:26.800,1:55:29.039 and i'm going to mark this live stream 1:55:29.040,1:55:31.839 as done thank you everyone for being so 1:55:31.840,1:55:34.238 fantastic and we wish you all a 1:55:34.239,1:55:37.379 fantastic day 1:55:37.380,1:55:41.909 [Music]