1 00:00:01,287 --> 00:00:05,255 Response to 23 Questions Part- 65 Singing and Music, Episode- 8 Javed Ahmed Ghamidi 2 00:00:11,742 --> 00:00:13,745 [Hassan Ilyas] Bismillahir Rahmanir Rahim, As Salam Alaikum 3 00:00:13,745 --> 00:00:16,063 Welcome to yet another Session of 'From the Desk of Ghamidi'. 4 00:00:16,063 --> 00:00:18,517 The chain of discussions continues on the 23 Objections. 5 00:00:18,517 --> 00:00:20,600 Today is the 65th Episode of that Series. 6 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:23,509 The important objection on Singing and Music is under debate. 7 00:00:23,509 --> 00:00:26,261 And today we are about to begin the 8th Session on this particular topic. 8 00:00:26,261 --> 00:00:28,477 Thank you very much Ghamidi Sahab for your time. 9 00:00:28,477 --> 00:00:32,432 Let us start, the Narrations that you were stating in the last session 10 00:00:32,432 --> 00:00:35,781 and we were trying to know that all that is found in the corpus of Hadees 11 00:00:35,781 --> 00:00:38,560 with reference to Singing and Music, from those Narrations 12 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:40,587 which according to the Chain of Narrations 13 00:00:40,587 --> 00:00:44,590 are of the level of Sahih or Hasan. We read each and every Narration 14 00:00:44,590 --> 00:00:48,166 and the introduction which you stated, after understanding it from the Quran, 15 00:00:48,166 --> 00:00:51,528 that actually it is the use of things which turns them as forbidden. 16 00:00:51,528 --> 00:00:53,894 The basis of which is present in Surah Aaraf, 17 00:00:53,894 --> 00:00:56,083 which are those 5 things. There isn't any explicit mention 18 00:00:56,083 --> 00:00:58,889 of the Prohibition of Singing and Music. Those too are being applied 19 00:00:58,889 --> 00:01:01,329 in each and every Narration by us to understand the correct situation. 20 00:01:01,329 --> 00:01:03,074 Please go ahead and tell us where do we stand 21 00:01:03,074 --> 00:01:05,135 with respect to the chain of Narrations? 22 00:01:05,135 --> 00:01:08,306 What is the next narration? And what actually is discussed therein? 23 00:01:08,306 --> 00:01:11,492 [Javed Ahmed Ghamidi] We have read 15 Narrations before this. 24 00:01:11,492 --> 00:01:15,302 This is the 16th, its text has been taken from Sahih Bukhari as well. 25 00:01:15,302 --> 00:01:18,223 Its number is 952. [Hassan] Right. 26 00:01:18,223 --> 00:01:20,444 [Ghamidi] I am just reading the translation. 27 00:01:20,444 --> 00:01:25,663 Sayyeda Ayesha says Abu Bakr R.A. came to my house. 28 00:01:25,663 --> 00:01:27,841 He was her respected father. 29 00:01:27,841 --> 00:01:30,153 Abu Bakr R.A. came to my house. 30 00:01:30,153 --> 00:01:34,502 At that moment two slave-girls from Ansar were playing the 'Daf' 31 00:01:34,502 --> 00:01:38,240 and singing the song which the Ansar had sung for each other 32 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:41,442 on the day of the Battle of Buaas. 33 00:01:41,442 --> 00:01:45,408 Generally, there used to be the slave-girls who would sing songs. 34 00:01:45,408 --> 00:01:47,937 They used to sing in gatherings as well as in houses. 35 00:01:47,937 --> 00:01:51,740 At that moment two slave-girls from Ansar were playing the 'Daf' 36 00:01:51,740 --> 00:01:54,637 and singing the song which the Ansar had sung for each other 37 00:01:54,637 --> 00:01:56,574 on the day of the Battle of Buaas. 38 00:01:56,574 --> 00:02:03,854 The Prophet (pbuh) had covered his face with a cloth and was taking rest. 39 00:02:03,854 --> 00:02:07,325 i.e. those slave-girls were singing and playing the Daf too, 40 00:02:07,325 --> 00:02:11,893 Sayyeda was listening to it, the Prophet (pbuh) was taking rest 41 00:02:11,893 --> 00:02:16,407 and he (pbuh) had covered his face with a cloth. 42 00:02:16,407 --> 00:02:22,481 The Prophet (pbuh) covering his face was taking a rest, 43 00:02:22,481 --> 00:02:26,833 however, neither did he say anything to them nor he was stopping them. 44 00:02:26,833 --> 00:02:29,678 i.e. it did not happen that he expressed some dislike 45 00:02:29,678 --> 00:02:33,075 or drew the attention of Sayyeda, or had stopped them from doing this. 46 00:02:33,075 --> 00:02:35,816 They were singing and playing the 'Daf' as well. 47 00:02:35,816 --> 00:02:39,493 Sayyeda was listening to it, the Prophet (pbuh) was present there too. 48 00:02:39,493 --> 00:02:42,305 However, he did not utter any sentence of objection. 49 00:02:42,305 --> 00:02:45,754 And neither did he adopt an attitude of objection. 50 00:02:45,754 --> 00:02:48,954 However, neither did he say anything to them nor did he stop them. 51 00:02:48,954 --> 00:02:53,110 Sayyeda says that both those slave-girls weren't professional singers. 52 00:02:53,110 --> 00:02:56,290 i.e. one should not think that they were professional singers 53 00:02:56,290 --> 00:03:01,290 who had been called and they were displaying their Art there. 54 00:03:01,290 --> 00:03:05,869 Like the slave-girls usually sang in houses and elsewhere too. 55 00:03:05,869 --> 00:03:08,529 Such were these two slave-girls from Ansar 56 00:03:08,529 --> 00:03:11,768 who had been playing the Daf and singing that song. 57 00:03:11,768 --> 00:03:15,623 When Abu Bakr R.A. saw this, he said astonishingly, 58 00:03:15,623 --> 00:03:21,092 "In the house of the Prophet (pbuh) such Satanic instruments of music!" 59 00:03:21,092 --> 00:03:23,870 i.e. Syedna Siddique R.A. made this comment on it. 60 00:03:23,870 --> 00:03:27,208 Now you see, probably he must have thought 61 00:03:27,208 --> 00:03:29,611 that the Prophet ( pbuh) was unaware of it. 62 00:03:29,611 --> 00:03:32,912 Or he (pbuh) is taking rest and possibly is asleep. 63 00:03:32,912 --> 00:03:35,348 Or he did not pay attention to it. So he said, 64 00:03:35,348 --> 00:03:41,125 "In the house of the Prophet (pbuh) such Satanic instruments of music!" 65 00:03:41,125 --> 00:03:46,822 Sayyeda says that it was the day of Eid. When the Prophet (pbuh) heard this, 66 00:03:46,822 --> 00:03:50,694 he uncovered his face (pbuh) and said, 67 00:03:50,694 --> 00:03:52,765 "Abu Bakr let these girls sing, 68 00:03:52,765 --> 00:03:56,461 every nation has an Eid and it is the day of our Eid." 69 00:03:56,461 --> 00:03:58,377 [Hassan] SubhanAllah, okay. 70 00:03:58,377 --> 00:04:02,599 [Ghamidi] Just imagine the way the Prophet has conveyed these teachings. 71 00:04:02,599 --> 00:04:06,250 i.e. the religious mentality becomes sensitive about these things. 72 00:04:06,250 --> 00:04:08,726 It should come on to the right equilibrium. 73 00:04:08,726 --> 00:04:12,133 It should learn to see things in their proper context and place. 74 00:04:12,133 --> 00:04:15,607 It should become aware what is the context of something? 75 00:04:15,607 --> 00:04:18,529 On what occasion a certain activity is not just permitted, 76 00:04:18,529 --> 00:04:22,896 rather, it should be done. That the human nature demands it. 77 00:04:22,896 --> 00:04:28,130 When the Prophet (pbuh) heard this, he uncovered his face and said, 78 00:04:28,130 --> 00:04:33,523 "Abu Bakr let these girls sing, every nation has an Eid 79 00:04:33,523 --> 00:04:36,532 and this is the day of our Eid". 80 00:04:36,532 --> 00:04:42,657 "So when Abu Bakr R.A. attended to other things then I waved at the girls, 81 00:04:42,657 --> 00:04:45,699 hence both of them left the place". [Hassan] Who had waved? 82 00:04:45,699 --> 00:04:47,457 [Ghamidi] Sayyeda, Sayyeda says that 83 00:04:47,457 --> 00:04:53,870 this wasn't liked by her father, so in spite of this comment 84 00:04:53,870 --> 00:04:57,794 from the Prophet (pbuh) she didn't want this to continue, 85 00:04:57,794 --> 00:05:01,957 so she hinted to the girls, hence they obviously left the place. 86 00:05:01,957 --> 00:05:03,921 This is the Narration. Now you see, 87 00:05:03,921 --> 00:05:08,363 when Syedna Abu Bakr said, "In the House of the Prophet (pbuh) 88 00:05:08,363 --> 00:05:12,551 these Satanic instruments of music", I have written a note on it. 89 00:05:12,551 --> 00:05:14,622 This comment has been made 90 00:05:14,622 --> 00:05:17,490 in consideration of the use of musical instruments, 91 00:05:17,490 --> 00:05:23,383 in the era of Pagan Arabia which we see day and night even in our times. 92 00:05:23,383 --> 00:05:26,485 What is being played here? Daf is being played here. 93 00:05:26,485 --> 00:05:33,602 He has categorized the Daf within the definition of musical instruments. 94 00:05:33,602 --> 00:05:36,765 With this, it becomes clear that Daf is no different 95 00:05:36,765 --> 00:05:39,926 from the class of musical instruments. [Hassan] An important point. 96 00:05:39,926 --> 00:05:42,177 [Ghamidi] i.e. like the other instruments of music, 97 00:05:42,177 --> 00:05:45,344 this too is among the instruments of music. 98 00:05:45,344 --> 00:05:49,497 He did not like it, and from what aspect did he not like them? 99 00:05:49,497 --> 00:05:51,536 That even if it is a permissible activity, 100 00:05:51,536 --> 00:05:54,494 then how can it be done inside the house of the Prophet (pbuh)? 101 00:05:54,494 --> 00:05:57,073 And what was the point towards which the Prophet (pbuh) 102 00:05:57,073 --> 00:05:59,013 drew his attention? Whether, it is my house 103 00:05:59,013 --> 00:06:02,089 or of somebody else', these activities also have a place, 104 00:06:02,089 --> 00:06:05,341 and how was it elaborated? Today is the day of Eid, 105 00:06:05,341 --> 00:06:08,084 every nation has a day of Eid. Today is our Eid. 106 00:06:08,084 --> 00:06:11,388 If there is some singing and music, some entertainment is being done, 107 00:06:11,388 --> 00:06:13,960 then there should not be any objection to it. 108 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:16,907 This point was focused on by the Prophet (pbuh). 109 00:06:16,907 --> 00:06:19,341 This comment has been made in consideration of the 110 00:06:19,341 --> 00:06:22,120 use of musical instruments, among the pagan Arabs, 111 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:25,509 which we see day and night even in our times. 112 00:06:25,509 --> 00:06:28,466 This term is there in multiple places in the Narrations that 113 00:06:28,466 --> 00:06:32,028 these are Satanic instruments or these are the voices of Satan, 114 00:06:32,028 --> 00:06:34,997 This term has been used in multiple places in the Narrations, 115 00:06:34,997 --> 00:06:39,027 in consideration of this aspect, since their general use is not seen as good, 116 00:06:39,027 --> 00:06:43,024 and it is thought that this is a nocturnal party, 117 00:06:43,024 --> 00:06:46,006 these are played there, and slave-girls sing there, 118 00:06:46,006 --> 00:06:50,248 and they use all sort of couplets. Since these activities are common 119 00:06:50,248 --> 00:06:53,155 and the pious do not generally like them. 120 00:06:53,155 --> 00:06:56,080 Hence Syedna Siddique said this in consideration of the same. 121 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:58,502 [Hassan] Right. [Ghamidi] The Prophet (pbuh), 122 00:06:58,502 --> 00:07:05,315 i.e. the personality like Syedna Siddique said this, the Prophet made it clear 123 00:07:05,315 --> 00:07:10,503 from his action that none among these in essence is forbidden. 124 00:07:10,503 --> 00:07:12,912 Now you see what in essence is not forbidden? 125 00:07:12,912 --> 00:07:15,893 Singing, in essence, is not forbidden. One point. 126 00:07:15,893 --> 00:07:19,008 Even the singing of the girls in essence is not forbidden. 127 00:07:19,008 --> 00:07:21,714 If you listen to their singing, and you are a male 128 00:07:21,714 --> 00:07:23,874 then this too, in essence, is not forbidden. 129 00:07:23,874 --> 00:07:27,786 And it was also made clear along with it that the Daf was being played, 130 00:07:27,786 --> 00:07:31,033 obviously, it is among the common instruments for music, 131 00:07:31,033 --> 00:07:34,637 hence singing along with the instruments of music is also not forbidden. 132 00:07:34,637 --> 00:07:38,003 Hence, with his practice, all this was clarified by the Prophet (pbuh). 133 00:07:38,003 --> 00:07:40,457 The Prophet made it clear from his action that 134 00:07:40,457 --> 00:07:43,350 none among these, in essence, is forbidden. 135 00:07:43,350 --> 00:07:47,908 It is their good or bad use, which at times becomes 136 00:07:47,908 --> 00:07:51,558 the cause of forbiddance, permissibility or their recommendation. 137 00:07:51,558 --> 00:07:55,423 This is the aspect to which I am repeatedly drawing attention to. 138 00:07:55,423 --> 00:07:58,834 i.e. it becomes the reason for Prohibition when these instruments 139 00:07:58,834 --> 00:08:03,795 or a good voice is used for the propagation of some evil. 140 00:08:03,795 --> 00:08:07,210 Like for the propagation of Shirk, like for the propagation of Bid'aat. 141 00:08:07,210 --> 00:08:09,564 Like for the propagation of Fawahish (Vulgarity). 142 00:08:09,564 --> 00:08:13,196 When we will use it for wrong ends then the forbiddance will be there too. 143 00:08:13,196 --> 00:08:16,296 The warning would also be made. Attention would also be drawn. 144 00:08:16,296 --> 00:08:18,357 There would be a harsh comment made as well. 145 00:08:18,357 --> 00:08:20,365 And a personality like Syedna Siddique or 146 00:08:20,365 --> 00:08:24,149 Syedna Umar would also use such words for it. 147 00:08:24,149 --> 00:08:26,704 That should be understood in this background as well. 148 00:08:26,704 --> 00:08:31,031 The Prophet (pbuh) has taught to differentiate 149 00:08:31,031 --> 00:08:36,918 between their good and evil use, after that, it is obvious that 150 00:08:36,918 --> 00:08:40,137 Syedna Abu Bakr would not have further held on to this opinion. 151 00:08:40,137 --> 00:08:42,793 i.e. it can't happen that even after this event, 152 00:08:42,793 --> 00:08:45,880 Syedna Siddique would have remained firm on that opinion of his. 153 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:48,776 That under all conditions these are Satanic instruments. 154 00:08:48,776 --> 00:08:51,717 A statement was made by him. The Prophet (pbuh) drew attention 155 00:08:51,717 --> 00:08:55,005 towards the other aspect, in his presence, this attention was drawn. 156 00:08:55,005 --> 00:08:58,314 Daf was being played too. The song was being sung too. 157 00:08:58,314 --> 00:09:01,366 And who was playing Daf and singing songs? 158 00:09:01,366 --> 00:09:02,950 The girls were doing it. 159 00:09:02,950 --> 00:09:08,281 Now, just try to look at these concepts in the religious backdrop of ours. 160 00:09:08,281 --> 00:09:12,064 Each one among these has been approved by the Prophet (pbuh). 161 00:09:12,064 --> 00:09:15,712 And it was appreciated that it was the day of Eid, 162 00:09:15,712 --> 00:09:17,945 if such activities are done on the day of Eid, 163 00:09:17,945 --> 00:09:19,822 then in accordance with the occasion and context 164 00:09:19,822 --> 00:09:21,637 these are quite suitable activities. 165 00:09:21,637 --> 00:09:24,494 [Hassan] Right. A few minor questions related to this Narration come to mind, 166 00:09:24,494 --> 00:09:27,694 I wish to present them to you. Please tell me about this first thing, 167 00:09:27,694 --> 00:09:29,471 of all the Narrations that have come under discussion, 168 00:09:29,471 --> 00:09:32,496 among them, the singers are the slave-girls, 169 00:09:32,496 --> 00:09:36,909 so I would wish to ask you that this activity in that culture 170 00:09:36,909 --> 00:09:40,803 was not considered a respectable profession that the elite 171 00:09:40,803 --> 00:09:45,113 and the nobles would adopt as a career which we see in the present times 172 00:09:45,113 --> 00:09:48,863 which we term as the artistic mindset, and it commands a lot of respect. 173 00:09:48,863 --> 00:09:52,070 Was this activity of singing and playing of music confined just to the slave-girls 174 00:09:52,070 --> 00:09:55,164 or that class that was not so much respected in society? 175 00:09:55,164 --> 00:09:57,570 [Javed Ahmed Ghamidi] The point is that these too were human beings. 176 00:09:57,570 --> 00:09:59,402 If they were slave-girls, they were women as well. 177 00:09:59,402 --> 00:10:01,830 If they were slaves, they constituted men only. 178 00:10:01,830 --> 00:10:06,424 However, these were the people who had to provide service. 179 00:10:06,424 --> 00:10:09,266 These were the ones to work in fields, guide the caravans. 180 00:10:09,266 --> 00:10:11,608 In the same way, for the means of entertainment, 181 00:10:11,608 --> 00:10:14,397 a certain type of training and perseverance is required. 182 00:10:14,397 --> 00:10:17,534 So they were the ones to provide such services. 183 00:10:17,534 --> 00:10:20,543 Other than these there is a mention of certain other things. 184 00:10:20,543 --> 00:10:24,879 i.e. when we read the history, or poetry or literature of Arab, 185 00:10:24,879 --> 00:10:28,142 then many other people too, including the womenfolk 186 00:10:28,142 --> 00:10:31,371 of respected families are seen to have shown keenness for it. 187 00:10:31,371 --> 00:10:35,245 However, it is mostly seen that these slave-girls used to sing and play music. 188 00:10:35,245 --> 00:10:39,458 They were the ones to enliven the parties. And when they would come to homes, 189 00:10:39,458 --> 00:10:45,672 they generally liked to play the Daf or Sing some songs. 190 00:10:45,672 --> 00:10:49,739 And since their songs were the result of their practice and perseverence, 191 00:10:49,739 --> 00:10:52,329 they knew the art of playing the music and singing, 192 00:10:52,329 --> 00:10:55,843 so the people liked their performances. These are all the aspects. 193 00:10:55,843 --> 00:10:59,075 [Hassan] One more aspect, Ghamidi Sahab, which I am bringing forth 194 00:10:59,075 --> 00:11:01,898 is that generally, when such Narrations are presented, 195 00:11:01,898 --> 00:11:06,937 then it is said, in that era when they used to sing and play, 196 00:11:06,937 --> 00:11:10,712 the people had great virtues, Godliness, sincerity, humility, 197 00:11:10,712 --> 00:11:13,101 and fear of God was so much that in spite of all this, 198 00:11:13,101 --> 00:11:15,577 their heart wasn't inclined towards it. In today's age 199 00:11:15,577 --> 00:11:17,891 when we see the deplorable condition of Iman of people, 200 00:11:17,891 --> 00:11:19,895 then we would stop people on the principle of 201 00:11:19,895 --> 00:11:21,923 'Saddan li-zariya', so that we do not get at all 202 00:11:21,923 --> 00:11:23,629 inclined to hear the voice of a girl. 203 00:11:23,629 --> 00:11:25,322 Once we hear the voice we shall get mesmerized by her, 204 00:11:25,322 --> 00:11:27,113 and which will finally lead to wrong temptations. 205 00:11:27,113 --> 00:11:29,639 Therefore it was okay for that period, their Iman was of such level, 206 00:11:29,639 --> 00:11:31,290 In the present age, we have to bar it 207 00:11:31,290 --> 00:11:33,127 on the principle of Sadd-e Zariya (things which lead to Evil). 208 00:11:33,127 --> 00:11:34,959 [Javed Ahmed Ghamidi] There are two points of it. 209 00:11:34,959 --> 00:11:37,834 The first point is that those people who are quite superior 210 00:11:37,834 --> 00:11:41,471 with regard to 'Taqwa' or for those 211 00:11:41,471 --> 00:11:45,517 who do not possibly fear this, they should then listen with more fervor! 212 00:11:45,517 --> 00:11:49,163 Both things should happen. Since the Prophet (pbuh) has heard it. 213 00:11:49,163 --> 00:11:52,045 So that should surely be followed?! The second point is that 214 00:11:52,045 --> 00:11:55,284 the principle of Sadd-e Zariya (stopping from that which leads to Evil) 215 00:11:55,284 --> 00:11:58,422 does not follow the mechanism that something, in essence, is not forbidden, 216 00:11:58,422 --> 00:12:00,343 and we declare it as forbidden. 217 00:12:00,343 --> 00:12:02,893 Here the attention is drawn in the same manner that 218 00:12:02,893 --> 00:12:05,815 this particular thing is completely permissible, 219 00:12:05,815 --> 00:12:10,585 however, if you indulge too much in it, it may result in the following evils. 220 00:12:10,585 --> 00:12:12,991 [Hassan] Right. [Ghamidi] This we tell our children, 221 00:12:12,991 --> 00:12:15,842 those are common things of play, there may not be any debate about them. 222 00:12:15,842 --> 00:12:18,701 If we spend more time in it, the studies would be affected. 223 00:12:18,701 --> 00:12:21,046 You won't be able to dedicate yourself to work. 224 00:12:21,046 --> 00:12:23,683 There are so many of our pastimes regarding which 225 00:12:23,683 --> 00:12:25,228 we keep giving such warnings. 226 00:12:25,228 --> 00:12:28,092 However, we never say that in essence, these are Prohibited. 227 00:12:28,092 --> 00:12:32,167 Aren't you aware that generally when kids are getting their schooling, 228 00:12:32,167 --> 00:12:35,523 then if we see them reading even a novel, or reading a common book, 229 00:12:35,523 --> 00:12:39,111 then we draw their attention to focus on books prescribed in the syllabus, 230 00:12:39,111 --> 00:12:41,320 read those books. Hence for each activity, 231 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:43,266 there is an appropriate time and context, 232 00:12:43,266 --> 00:12:46,543 which are taken into consideration while doing it. 233 00:12:46,543 --> 00:12:50,583 Then again, if we stop people from it, will they stop? 234 00:12:50,583 --> 00:12:53,694 i.e. if you keep persuading them to the right attitude and nature 235 00:12:53,694 --> 00:12:57,060 then they will be trained in the right manner. If you tell them that 236 00:12:57,060 --> 00:12:59,703 you will have to take care of the following drawbacks 237 00:12:59,703 --> 00:13:01,942 then they would keep those points in memory. 238 00:13:01,942 --> 00:13:06,279 They will thus control themselves. So I am against the idea that for 239 00:13:06,279 --> 00:13:11,461 Sadd-e Zariya, if we adopt such strictness then society would be reformed. 240 00:13:11,461 --> 00:13:16,382 Let us move further on, were all the Sahaba (Companions) of the same level? 241 00:13:16,382 --> 00:13:18,767 i.e. they comprised the Baddu (Bedouins) as well. 242 00:13:18,767 --> 00:13:20,969 They would come from the adjoining areas too. 243 00:13:20,969 --> 00:13:24,534 Did the Prophet made any such announcement for them and said 244 00:13:24,534 --> 00:13:29,643 that in my gathering, it's okay for these people not to treat 245 00:13:29,643 --> 00:13:34,006 these things on the principle of Sadd-e Zariya, however, 246 00:13:34,006 --> 00:13:35,833 you people should remain aloof from it 247 00:13:35,833 --> 00:13:38,638 as you people do not possess that 'Taqwa', and Godliness. 248 00:13:38,638 --> 00:13:41,220 i.e. Iman has not yet entered their hearts, 249 00:13:41,220 --> 00:13:43,540 i.e. there is a group that has accepted Iman, 250 00:13:43,540 --> 00:13:45,846 and these comments of the Quran pertain to them. 251 00:13:45,846 --> 00:13:47,798 You people should be careful about it. 252 00:13:47,798 --> 00:13:50,715 This wasn't the methodology adopted by the Prophet (pbuh). 253 00:13:50,715 --> 00:13:53,594 And I would humbly submit that our Ulema too 254 00:13:53,594 --> 00:13:55,668 should rectify themselves in this matter. 255 00:13:55,668 --> 00:13:58,465 [Hassan] Right. [Ghamidi] The methodologies and attitudes 256 00:13:58,465 --> 00:14:02,968 adopted by the Prophet (pbuh), are the exemplary attitudes for us. 257 00:14:02,968 --> 00:14:05,426 Those only should always be kept in consideration. 258 00:14:05,426 --> 00:14:08,707 Exceeding those, whatever we will do, will in one way or the other 259 00:14:08,707 --> 00:14:11,978 lead to some problems. Hence we should have the right stand. 260 00:14:11,978 --> 00:14:17,412 All Fine Arts relate to beauty, that all Fine Arts are completely Permissible. 261 00:14:17,412 --> 00:14:19,793 Nothing in them, in essence, is Prohibited. 262 00:14:19,793 --> 00:14:22,331 It is their use, or their overuse, 263 00:14:22,331 --> 00:14:25,218 where at times some negative comments are to be made. 264 00:14:25,218 --> 00:14:27,981 [Hassan] Right, Ghamidi Sahab, let us take the discussion along. 265 00:14:27,981 --> 00:14:30,296 This aspect became clear with reference to the Narration. 266 00:14:30,296 --> 00:14:31,695 I would like you to go ahead with the next Narration 267 00:14:31,695 --> 00:14:33,412 and tell us as to what is discussed there? 268 00:14:33,412 --> 00:14:36,498 [Ghamidi] The next Narration which I am about to read, 269 00:14:36,498 --> 00:14:40,423 I have taken its text from Nasai's As Sunan ul Kubra, 270 00:14:40,423 --> 00:14:44,387 its number is 5539. [Hassan] Right. 271 00:14:44,387 --> 00:14:48,573 [Ghamidi] I am readings its translation. Aamir Bin Saad Bajli narrates, 272 00:14:48,573 --> 00:14:53,333 'He says that in one marriage ceremony, I sat near Karza Bin Kaab, Abu Masud Ansari 273 00:14:53,333 --> 00:15:01,361 and Sabit Bin Zaid, when I saw some girls were playing the Daf and singing. 274 00:15:01,361 --> 00:15:05,735 I said, "Subhanallah, you all are the Companions of the Prophet (pbuh), 275 00:15:05,735 --> 00:15:07,978 rather the participants of the Battle of Badr, 276 00:15:07,978 --> 00:15:10,465 and all this is happening right under your nose". 277 00:15:10,465 --> 00:15:12,353 [Hassan] Okay. [Ghamidi] You see, 278 00:15:12,353 --> 00:15:14,593 the religious mentality of today's age, 279 00:15:14,593 --> 00:15:19,851 like in the case of Sadd-e Zariya, it becomes excessively strict, 280 00:15:19,851 --> 00:15:24,752 or indulgence in these things are considered against the religion. 281 00:15:24,752 --> 00:15:27,282 Such people existed even in those times. 282 00:15:27,282 --> 00:15:31,291 Aamir Bin Saad Bajli narrates, 'he says that in one marriage ceremony 283 00:15:31,291 --> 00:15:36,762 I sat near Karza Bin Kaab, Abu Masud Ansari and Sabit Bin Zaid, 284 00:15:36,762 --> 00:15:40,174 when I saw, and who are these people he himself has told ahead, 285 00:15:40,174 --> 00:15:43,506 that some girls were playing the Daf and singing, 286 00:15:43,506 --> 00:15:45,098 "I said, Subhanallah, 287 00:15:45,098 --> 00:15:49,557 you all are the Companions of the Prophet (pbuh) 288 00:15:49,557 --> 00:15:51,855 rather the participants of the Battle of Badr". 289 00:15:51,855 --> 00:15:54,413 "And all this is taking place right under your nose!" 290 00:15:54,413 --> 00:15:56,677 Karza and Abu Masud started saying, 291 00:15:56,677 --> 00:15:59,972 if you wish to, then you may listen to this with us, 292 00:15:59,972 --> 00:16:02,019 and if you do not wish to you may leave. 293 00:16:02,019 --> 00:16:04,303 For the reason, we have been given permission 294 00:16:04,303 --> 00:16:06,850 for singing and playing of music during marriages 295 00:16:06,850 --> 00:16:10,072 and crying on the dead. if the 'Nauha' (Wailing) is not done in it. 296 00:16:10,072 --> 00:16:12,535 [Hassan] Subhanallah. [Ghamidi] Therefore, he told him 297 00:16:12,535 --> 00:16:16,141 leave aside the rest of the time, there can be a debate on it, 298 00:16:16,141 --> 00:16:19,086 however, on occasions of marriages, we have seen that 299 00:16:19,086 --> 00:16:23,114 the Prophet has advised for it. In the same way, if some one has died, 300 00:16:23,114 --> 00:16:26,164 has departed the world, then the expressions of human emotions 301 00:16:26,164 --> 00:16:30,570 happens in the form of crying. So he warned that 302 00:16:30,570 --> 00:16:33,507 the Prophet (pbuh) has stopped us from doing wailing, 303 00:16:33,507 --> 00:16:36,119 however, he hasn't stopped crying. Similarly, 304 00:16:36,119 --> 00:16:39,502 if these activities become rampant, or their misuse takes place, 305 00:16:39,502 --> 00:16:42,397 people start going daily to the gatherings of slave-girls, 306 00:16:42,397 --> 00:16:46,675 or to the night parties, then there is a scope for barring them from this. 307 00:16:46,675 --> 00:16:49,642 It is the occasion of marriage, and you say such things. 308 00:16:49,642 --> 00:16:52,900 "If you do not feel like listening to it, then go and do your work", 309 00:16:52,900 --> 00:16:55,721 "we have the permission of the Prophet (pbuh) for it". 310 00:16:55,721 --> 00:16:57,293 This was said by them. 311 00:16:57,293 --> 00:17:02,716 The words 'like the companions of the Prophet, the participants of Badr', 312 00:17:02,716 --> 00:17:05,020 and all this is taking place in front of them. 313 00:17:05,020 --> 00:17:06,557 On this, I have written, 314 00:17:06,557 --> 00:17:10,121 'Why would this question arise with regard to Singing and Music?' 315 00:17:10,121 --> 00:17:14,274 i.e. what is the reason that even Syedna Siddique too said this? 316 00:17:14,274 --> 00:17:17,828 The slave- girl adopted this attitude on seeing Syedna Umar 317 00:17:17,828 --> 00:17:20,778 in front of the Prophet (pbuh)? Which we have read earlier. 318 00:17:20,778 --> 00:17:24,088 Why this question would arise with regard to Singing and Music? 319 00:17:24,088 --> 00:17:28,029 We have elaborated earlier that just like in our age, 320 00:17:28,029 --> 00:17:33,195 its use in that era too, now note here, what was it? 321 00:17:33,195 --> 00:17:36,625 Its use, similar to our age its use in that era too 322 00:17:36,625 --> 00:17:39,525 was mostly for the propagation of polytheistic concepts 323 00:17:39,525 --> 00:17:42,898 and for the propagation of Fawahish (Vulgarity). 324 00:17:42,898 --> 00:17:47,219 We have commented earlier that if we look into our own time, 325 00:17:47,219 --> 00:17:52,220 this wrong use can be experienced in multiple places. 326 00:17:52,220 --> 00:17:56,486 The issues relating to its indulgence, that we see every day as well. 327 00:17:56,486 --> 00:18:00,230 We experience them, like the way, in the present times, 328 00:18:00,230 --> 00:18:03,110 we often have to emphatically and strictly draw attention 329 00:18:03,110 --> 00:18:07,875 in those times too, due to its misuse, or overuse, 330 00:18:07,875 --> 00:18:10,088 such comments would come forth by the people. 331 00:18:10,088 --> 00:18:13,132 Why this question would arise with regard to Singing and Music? 332 00:18:13,132 --> 00:18:16,549 We have elaborated it earlier, that like in our times, 333 00:18:16,549 --> 00:18:20,718 in those times too, its use was mostly for the propagation of polytheistic concepts 334 00:18:20,718 --> 00:18:23,372 and for the propagation of Fawahish (Vulgarity). 335 00:18:23,372 --> 00:18:25,730 The word 'Rukhsat' (Leave) in the Narrations 336 00:18:25,730 --> 00:18:27,807 have been spoken with this consideration. 337 00:18:27,807 --> 00:18:31,997 Since this was its general use, then is it the case that we will not use it at all? 338 00:18:31,997 --> 00:18:34,338 So the word 'Rukhsat' given implies that 339 00:18:34,338 --> 00:18:38,420 if the content is good, if there isn't any defect in the song, 340 00:18:38,420 --> 00:18:40,778 if the occasion is such, 341 00:18:40,778 --> 00:18:45,761 if such overuse isn't there that even the Salah or Sawm is hampered, 342 00:18:45,761 --> 00:18:49,774 and the religious life is completely ruined then there isn't any harm in it. 343 00:18:49,774 --> 00:18:54,693 In every language, we can find examples for such use of words. 344 00:18:54,693 --> 00:18:58,779 The condition of 'Marriages' in this sentence is to convey 345 00:18:58,779 --> 00:19:03,421 that in general, the business of our lives, i.e. he has replied to him, 346 00:19:03,421 --> 00:19:06,312 i.e. the word 'Marriages' is used. 347 00:19:06,312 --> 00:19:09,624 In normal circumstances, our having been busy could, in some aspect, 348 00:19:09,624 --> 00:19:12,850 have been objectionable, however, on this occasion of happiness, 349 00:19:12,850 --> 00:19:14,479 its possibility is also not there. 350 00:19:14,479 --> 00:19:18,078 For the reason that the Prophet (pbuh) himself on this occasion 351 00:19:18,078 --> 00:19:20,222 and for the same reason has permitted it. 352 00:19:20,222 --> 00:19:22,279 Therefore he has stated the complete point. 353 00:19:22,279 --> 00:19:25,010 That this, in essence, is not something prohibited. 354 00:19:25,010 --> 00:19:27,846 Its use can definitely be for the wrong purposes. 355 00:19:27,846 --> 00:19:31,641 If you have any worry, you may not sit here and may leave. 356 00:19:31,641 --> 00:19:34,574 If we had been busy in Normal circumstances in this activity, 357 00:19:34,574 --> 00:19:37,797 and you had felt that while shirking some religious responsibility 358 00:19:37,797 --> 00:19:40,282 or exceeding our limits this activity is being done, 359 00:19:40,282 --> 00:19:42,788 then you could have very well said this. 360 00:19:42,788 --> 00:19:45,554 In times of marriages, the Prophet has clearly allowed it. 361 00:19:45,554 --> 00:19:47,591 So what is the reason for objecting to it? 362 00:19:47,591 --> 00:19:49,254 If you wish to sit you are welcome 363 00:19:49,254 --> 00:19:51,070 otherwise, you are free to leave the place. 364 00:19:51,070 --> 00:19:53,444 If you understand the proper context of this sentence, 365 00:19:53,444 --> 00:19:56,107 then it has been spoken in this meaning. [Hassan] Right. 366 00:19:56,107 --> 00:20:00,192 [Ghamidi] This leave or rather advise for such occasions by the Prophet (pbuh) , 367 00:20:00,192 --> 00:20:02,043 have been discussed earlier. 368 00:20:02,043 --> 00:20:05,644 i.e. the reference which he has given, we have had read those Narrations. 369 00:20:05,644 --> 00:20:08,774 [Hassan] Right. Okay. Ghamidi Sahab the Narration which you read just now, 370 00:20:08,774 --> 00:20:10,648 the point which you stated in the note, 371 00:20:10,648 --> 00:20:13,454 that the Sahaba are speaking this from the aspect that 372 00:20:13,454 --> 00:20:16,555 in normal circumstances this could be worth condemning, 373 00:20:16,555 --> 00:20:19,656 so why under normal conditions should this be condemned? 374 00:20:19,656 --> 00:20:22,021 i.e. the Sahaba have a special position, 375 00:20:22,021 --> 00:20:25,112 they have become a part of the mission of Prophethood. 376 00:20:25,112 --> 00:20:26,963 So in which aspect have you written this point of 377 00:20:26,963 --> 00:20:28,858 'Normal circumstance' which could be worth condemning? 378 00:20:28,858 --> 00:20:30,998 [Ghamidi] You see, a final narration would also come up soon, 379 00:20:30,998 --> 00:20:33,749 with that, you will have an idea of the wrong uses of it 380 00:20:33,749 --> 00:20:35,822 that were prevalent among the Arabs. 381 00:20:35,822 --> 00:20:38,843 The Prophet (pbuh) himself has commented on its wrong use 382 00:20:38,843 --> 00:20:41,244 and said that this was a very shameful act. 383 00:20:41,244 --> 00:20:45,108 Generally, such gatherings would be there. Before this too, 384 00:20:45,108 --> 00:20:49,395 you have heard that one gathering had been arranged in Madinah 385 00:20:49,395 --> 00:20:54,929 where Syedna Hamza had slashed the humps of the she-camels of Ali R.A. 386 00:20:54,929 --> 00:20:58,793 We have heard all this. Obviously, this point is made with this backdrop. 387 00:20:58,793 --> 00:21:00,917 Obviously, such gatherings happen everywhere. 388 00:21:00,917 --> 00:21:04,002 So the point of contention is that if we are present in any such gathering 389 00:21:04,002 --> 00:21:06,301 where from the look of it we get a feeling that 390 00:21:06,301 --> 00:21:08,783 this isn't the right place for respectable people. 391 00:21:08,783 --> 00:21:12,012 Or it is not such a place for people to frequent 392 00:21:12,012 --> 00:21:16,215 whom the Prophet (pbuh) has trained, most of their time should pass 393 00:21:16,215 --> 00:21:19,069 in the remembrance and love of Allah. 394 00:21:19,069 --> 00:21:21,990 So who are these people, what is the context? 395 00:21:21,990 --> 00:21:25,098 What city is it? What sort of gatherings are usual here? 396 00:21:25,098 --> 00:21:28,291 And if there is an over indulgence in them, 397 00:21:28,291 --> 00:21:31,408 then obviously there would have been a reason to make a comment, 398 00:21:31,408 --> 00:21:35,898 but this is an occasion of marriage, why would you have any objection to it? 399 00:21:35,898 --> 00:21:38,548 [Hassan] Please clarify another aspect Ghamidi Sahab, 400 00:21:38,548 --> 00:21:41,454 the conversation that is taking place between two Sahaba, 401 00:21:41,454 --> 00:21:47,150 and it is on the topic of Deen, and if we apply it in the light of the Quran, 402 00:21:47,150 --> 00:21:49,410 then that activity might have been Prohibited 403 00:21:49,410 --> 00:21:51,276 and might as well have been stopped, 404 00:21:51,276 --> 00:21:53,278 then this difference in the understanding 405 00:21:53,278 --> 00:21:55,731 and application of the religion between two Sahaba, 406 00:21:55,731 --> 00:21:58,092 with reference to it too, please tell me what comes to light, 407 00:21:58,092 --> 00:22:01,659 as it is generally said that if the opinion of so and so Sahabi has come, 408 00:22:01,659 --> 00:22:03,920 then it is the only interpretation of Deen, 409 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:06,659 it is the most verified and justified point of view, 410 00:22:06,659 --> 00:22:08,732 there isn't anything further to say, so we see that 411 00:22:08,732 --> 00:22:11,273 for such an important issue, and they are differing themselves. 412 00:22:11,273 --> 00:22:13,936 [Ghamidi] I am repeatedly focussing on the point that 413 00:22:13,936 --> 00:22:16,516 this is not the right way to understand Deen. 414 00:22:16,516 --> 00:22:20,194 When you hear the opinion of a Sahabi, or you listen to a Narration, 415 00:22:20,194 --> 00:22:23,184 or if you come across some comment of the Prophet (pbuh) 416 00:22:23,184 --> 00:22:26,505 on a certain situation, and deduced the complete Deen from it. 417 00:22:26,505 --> 00:22:28,670 if you wish to form an opinion regarding Deen, 418 00:22:28,670 --> 00:22:31,415 then all these lengthy discussions are for the purpose that 419 00:22:31,415 --> 00:22:33,329 we should adopt the correct way. 420 00:22:33,329 --> 00:22:35,718 First of all, we should refer to the Book of Allah 421 00:22:35,718 --> 00:22:39,970 and check if this matter has been discussed in the Book of Allah? 422 00:22:39,970 --> 00:22:43,552 How has it been stated there? If it relates to Prohibitions then 423 00:22:43,552 --> 00:22:46,985 ascertain the principles established with regard to 'Prohibitions. 424 00:22:46,985 --> 00:22:50,037 I have stated those things in great detail earlier. 425 00:22:50,037 --> 00:22:53,028 Similarly, if something has been issued as a Sunnah, 426 00:22:53,028 --> 00:22:56,095 then first ascertain it, as to what it actually is? 427 00:22:56,095 --> 00:22:59,575 What is its backdrop? In what place does the Quran hold it? 428 00:22:59,575 --> 00:23:01,994 If it is not mentioned in the Quran, 429 00:23:01,994 --> 00:23:06,274 then how the Prophet (pbuh) has promulgated it among the Muslims? 430 00:23:06,274 --> 00:23:08,733 And how has it become a part of their practice? 431 00:23:08,733 --> 00:23:12,191 After learning all these things we may refer to the Narrations. 432 00:23:12,191 --> 00:23:15,980 When we refer to the Narrations too, then look at not just a single Narration 433 00:23:15,980 --> 00:23:18,627 or point, rather, by looking into the general conduct. 434 00:23:18,627 --> 00:23:22,500 The difference that you are seeing here, neither is it the difference of Deen, 435 00:23:22,500 --> 00:23:24,812 nor the difference in the understanding of Deen. 436 00:23:24,812 --> 00:23:28,317 It is a difference of temperament. I have said earlier too, 437 00:23:28,317 --> 00:23:32,362 that this trait is also found in the personality of Syedna Umar R.A. 438 00:23:32,362 --> 00:23:35,728 i.e. among some people there is greater caution for such matters. 439 00:23:35,728 --> 00:23:38,643 They don't even like to go near means of entertainment. 440 00:23:38,643 --> 00:23:42,363 This difference of temperament should also be viewed with praise. 441 00:23:42,363 --> 00:23:45,138 It should be preserved. and what does it entail? 442 00:23:45,138 --> 00:23:51,237 It entails that if I have a tendency to go a little astray from the right path, 443 00:23:51,237 --> 00:23:54,514 then some other elder would be there to draw attention towards it. 444 00:23:54,514 --> 00:23:57,084 And in this way, that balance would remain 445 00:23:57,084 --> 00:23:58,677 which is the beauty characteristic of our Deen 446 00:23:58,677 --> 00:24:00,792 for the reason that this Deen is the Deen of Fitrah (Human Nature). 447 00:24:00,792 --> 00:24:02,431 [Hassan] Right. Ghamidi Sahab, the last aspect which came forth 448 00:24:02,431 --> 00:24:04,526 of this Narration, I wish that you briefly comment on it as well. 449 00:24:04,526 --> 00:24:07,881 It is that if one point of view is held as supreme for a Sahabi, 450 00:24:07,881 --> 00:24:10,399 the Sahaba should not attend such gatherings 451 00:24:10,399 --> 00:24:12,907 even on the occasion of marriages, however, 452 00:24:12,907 --> 00:24:15,366 the life and attitude of other Sahaba is that 453 00:24:15,366 --> 00:24:18,499 if you hold it as a problem, then you better leave this place, 454 00:24:18,499 --> 00:24:22,028 if we hold it as being permissible, then we should have the space, 455 00:24:22,028 --> 00:24:24,856 let us carry it on. We see that generally among us, 456 00:24:24,856 --> 00:24:28,456 this imbalance is also noticed that if I hold it as a vice, 457 00:24:28,456 --> 00:24:30,992 then I wish to impose the same on others. 458 00:24:30,992 --> 00:24:33,015 However, the Sahaba here teach us that if you hold it such 459 00:24:33,015 --> 00:24:34,624 you may leave, while we do not think it so we can carry it on. 460 00:24:34,624 --> 00:24:36,393 [Ghamidi] This is the right attitude. 461 00:24:36,393 --> 00:24:39,552 Every person looks at things from his/her own perspective. 462 00:24:39,552 --> 00:24:43,086 There may be disagreement on knowledge, understanding, application, 463 00:24:43,086 --> 00:24:45,970 and as I have said, there may be a difference of temperament. 464 00:24:45,970 --> 00:24:48,268 We should take care of it. In such instances, 465 00:24:48,268 --> 00:24:51,149 we should not go about issuing Fatwas as per our whims. 466 00:24:51,149 --> 00:24:53,995 Our worst misfortune is that, as a nation, once 467 00:24:53,995 --> 00:24:58,027 we make an opinion about something then we are not ready 468 00:24:58,027 --> 00:25:00,973 to listen to another opinion even in its context. 469 00:25:00,973 --> 00:25:04,825 This is the reason that the judgments are decreed among us in black and white. 470 00:25:04,825 --> 00:25:09,766 However, there are many situations in life that you place under grey areas. 471 00:25:09,766 --> 00:25:14,288 i.e. those are the situations where one tendency holds a position 472 00:25:14,288 --> 00:25:16,504 while another tendency too holds its own position. 473 00:25:16,504 --> 00:25:19,571 There may be one opinion, and there can be another opinion as well. 474 00:25:19,571 --> 00:25:22,350 Dozens of times it has happened that a comment is made 475 00:25:22,350 --> 00:25:26,311 about a point so the people say, "Tell us clearly what is right and what is wrong." 476 00:25:26,311 --> 00:25:30,952 To the extent that at times the same point is there, 477 00:25:30,952 --> 00:25:34,009 however, from one angle it is considered as right for someone, 478 00:25:34,009 --> 00:25:38,043 and when viewed from some other's angle then it will be considered as wrong. 479 00:25:38,043 --> 00:25:41,075 For matters of life too, this opinion has to be formed. 480 00:25:41,075 --> 00:25:44,402 Hence according to me, the attitude adopted by the Sahaba 481 00:25:44,402 --> 00:25:46,702 also holds a lesson for us, 482 00:25:46,702 --> 00:25:49,843 that we should learn to respect the opinions of others. 483 00:25:49,843 --> 00:25:53,536 We should learn to put our points of view with proper arguments. 484 00:25:53,536 --> 00:25:56,610 While commenting on something we should take into consideration 485 00:25:56,610 --> 00:25:59,631 that we have heard something, the other person has a completely 486 00:25:59,631 --> 00:26:02,400 different take of the whole issue. We should respect that. 487 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,066 With it, we will have an increase in scholarly temperament. 488 00:26:05,066 --> 00:26:07,720 A variegation in the ways of thinking will take place. 489 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:10,121 There would be a living and dynamic society. 490 00:26:10,121 --> 00:26:13,268 The biggest mistake that we have committed at our societal level is 491 00:26:13,268 --> 00:26:16,780 that we haven't let the growth of an environment for healthy criticism. 492 00:26:16,780 --> 00:26:20,033 i.e. criticism, the criticism where there isn't mockery or taunting. 493 00:26:20,033 --> 00:26:24,453 Where there isn't any propaganda, where there is no need to unclothe each other. 494 00:26:24,453 --> 00:26:27,588 Where there is the expression of one's opinions with politeness and decency. 495 00:26:27,588 --> 00:26:29,495 And put forth its arguments to the people. 496 00:26:29,495 --> 00:26:32,251 [Hassan] This Narration is also clear. It was an important Narration. 497 00:26:32,251 --> 00:26:35,787 Many aspects of it came up. I wish you to continue further with this chain. 498 00:26:35,787 --> 00:26:38,268 Now tell us the next Narration and what is being stated there? 499 00:26:38,268 --> 00:26:40,552 [Ghamidi] Following this is the Narration 500 00:26:40,552 --> 00:26:43,176 which we have taken from Musnad-e Is'haq Bin Ragawaih. 501 00:26:43,176 --> 00:26:48,565 Its number is 624. I am reading the translation. 502 00:26:48,565 --> 00:26:50,890 Sayyeda Ayesha R.A. states that 503 00:26:50,890 --> 00:26:57,637 the Prophet (pbuh) heard Abu Musa Ash'ari reciting the Quran. 504 00:26:57,637 --> 00:27:01,995 The Quran is the Book of Allah, the Prophet (pbuh) too used to read it. 505 00:27:01,995 --> 00:27:04,998 The other Sahaba used to read it. We too read it. 506 00:27:04,998 --> 00:27:09,238 The Prophet (pbuh) heard Abu Musa Ash'ari reciting the Quran. 507 00:27:09,238 --> 00:27:15,517 He had a sweet melodious voice. And was reciting the Quran sitting in the Masjid. 508 00:27:15,517 --> 00:27:18,000 [Hassan] Okay. [Ghamidi] When the Prophet (pbuh) 509 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:21,298 heard his recitation, he said, "There isn't a doubt that this person 510 00:27:21,298 --> 00:27:23,739 has been bestowed with a harmony from among 511 00:27:23,739 --> 00:27:26,418 the harmonies of the family of Dawood'. 512 00:27:26,418 --> 00:27:29,033 [Hassan] Okay. [Ghamidi] This was the comment made 513 00:27:29,033 --> 00:27:31,311 on his voice. With this, it is also clear that 514 00:27:31,311 --> 00:27:34,042 there isn't any difference between voice and harmony. 515 00:27:34,042 --> 00:27:36,149 Melodies come from the same place as voice 516 00:27:36,149 --> 00:27:38,922 That the people had made a difference 517 00:27:38,922 --> 00:27:41,530 among us is not valid. It is merely playing with words. 518 00:27:41,530 --> 00:27:45,837 The reality is when the voice emanates from our vocal chords, 519 00:27:45,837 --> 00:27:51,628 or from our tongues or our lips, when the voice emanates, 520 00:27:51,628 --> 00:27:56,655 and we beautify it assumes the form of Singing. 521 00:27:56,655 --> 00:28:01,898 And we enhance the beauty of this voice through melody. 522 00:28:01,898 --> 00:28:04,534 Hence this was the comment on the recital of the Quran 523 00:28:04,534 --> 00:28:07,041 of Syedna Abu Musa Ash'ari. 524 00:28:07,041 --> 00:28:09,902 i.e. as if he has been given a musical harmony from David. 525 00:28:09,902 --> 00:28:13,330 He does not recite the Quran with a voice or a sweet voice, 526 00:28:13,330 --> 00:28:16,940 it seems as if one of the chords bestowed to the family of Dawood, 527 00:28:16,940 --> 00:28:19,214 and it is spreading forth one of its melodies. 528 00:28:19,214 --> 00:28:22,638 There is a beautiful commentary and a lot of eloquence in it. 529 00:28:22,638 --> 00:28:27,446 I have written on it, "This is the assertion of the Glory of God, 530 00:28:27,446 --> 00:28:30,065 in the supplication and prayers to Him, 531 00:28:30,065 --> 00:28:34,681 hints towards the heart soothing songs of Syedna Dawood A.S. 532 00:28:34,681 --> 00:28:39,732 It is known that the Zuboor (Psalms of David) are mostly hymns, songs 533 00:28:39,732 --> 00:28:42,533 i.e. there are themes for the Glorification of Allah, Dua, 534 00:28:42,533 --> 00:28:46,077 and it has been revealed in the form of Songs. 535 00:28:46,077 --> 00:28:50,149 For the Glorification of God, in his supplications and prayers to Him, 536 00:28:50,149 --> 00:28:54,135 those heart-rendering songs of Syedna Dawood A.S. are being hinted at 537 00:28:54,135 --> 00:28:57,427 which he used to sing in the most beautiful voice 538 00:28:57,427 --> 00:29:01,217 along with musical instruments. i.e. it is known about Dawood A.S. 539 00:29:01,217 --> 00:29:05,784 and the Quran has stated it, and nowhere has it been negated, 540 00:29:05,784 --> 00:29:09,677 that the Jews have included this music among themselves, 541 00:29:09,677 --> 00:29:12,244 actually, he used to just read them in a sweet voice. 542 00:29:12,244 --> 00:29:15,108 If there is any such thing, and it relates to a Prophet 543 00:29:15,108 --> 00:29:17,829 then the experts of the Quran know that it some way 544 00:29:17,829 --> 00:29:21,049 or the other points to the fact that this can't be accepted. 545 00:29:21,049 --> 00:29:26,137 Nothing of this sort was done. It points to those heart-rendering songs 546 00:29:26,137 --> 00:29:29,547 which he i.e. Syedna Dawood A.S. would sing in the most melodious voice 547 00:29:29,547 --> 00:29:31,467 along with the musical instruments. 548 00:29:31,467 --> 00:29:34,512 This has been mentioned in the Quran as well as in the Bible. 549 00:29:34,512 --> 00:29:38,896 The Book with the name of 'Zuboor', was the collection of these songs. 550 00:29:38,896 --> 00:29:44,200 The Prophet (pbuh) has seen his voice with appreciation, 551 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:48,052 gave reference to the voice of Syedna Dawood A.S. 552 00:29:48,052 --> 00:29:51,787 and the words that he chose for it, there it was rhetorically indicated 553 00:29:51,787 --> 00:29:56,810 whether it be the voice or music, the thing which is important is the topic, 554 00:29:56,810 --> 00:30:01,628 and the topic here is the Book of Allah, so the Prophet (pbuh) has praised it. 555 00:30:01,628 --> 00:30:04,507 He applauded his elegant voice, there isn't something in it 556 00:30:04,507 --> 00:30:07,481 where the Prophet (pbuh) had said that in this way 557 00:30:07,481 --> 00:30:11,903 you are actually attracting people, read it in simple or plain words. 558 00:30:11,903 --> 00:30:14,066 [Hassan] Right. One supplementary point which comes to mind, 559 00:30:14,066 --> 00:30:16,283 you have said that it is there in the Quran 560 00:30:16,283 --> 00:30:20,646 and it is mentioned in the Bible too, that Syedna Dawood had such instruments, 561 00:30:20,646 --> 00:30:24,320 when he used to recite, so those instruments were also made use of, 562 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:27,184 then if there had been a tradition with the Prophets 563 00:30:27,184 --> 00:30:29,385 then in the whole life of the Prophet (pbuh), 564 00:30:29,385 --> 00:30:33,433 never do we see a single instance when he himself had played something. 565 00:30:33,433 --> 00:30:36,545 Therefore if it wasn't matching with the dignity and grace of the Prophet, 566 00:30:36,545 --> 00:30:38,270 then earlier too this should have been the case. 567 00:30:38,270 --> 00:30:39,784 And if was there then why it is not seen with the Prophet (pbuh)? 568 00:30:39,784 --> 00:30:41,972 [Ghamidi] There isn't any question of respect and dignity 569 00:30:41,972 --> 00:30:43,845 being associated with the act of playing music. 570 00:30:43,845 --> 00:30:46,566 Whenever a Prophet is made to stand in this world by Allah (swt), 571 00:30:46,566 --> 00:30:49,677 when he is appointed, then He entrusts him with a responsibility, 572 00:30:49,677 --> 00:30:52,698 He, according to the responsibilities, is given the Book, 573 00:30:52,698 --> 00:30:57,640 Guidance too is provided to them, and his personality is also molded accordingly. 574 00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:00,634 When we study the personalities of the Prophets, 575 00:31:00,634 --> 00:31:03,527 for example the personality of Syedna Musa A.S. 576 00:31:03,527 --> 00:31:06,073 The personality of Syedna Dawood is very different. 577 00:31:06,073 --> 00:31:09,904 The personalities of all the Prophets are not from the same molds. 578 00:31:09,904 --> 00:31:12,322 The high moral conduct, 579 00:31:12,322 --> 00:31:15,372 which the Prophet has termed as Makarim-e Akhlaaq'. 580 00:31:15,372 --> 00:31:19,156 All Prophets in their place are glowing examples of that morality. 581 00:31:19,156 --> 00:31:21,730 However, the nature, disposition, temperaments 582 00:31:21,730 --> 00:31:25,400 are quite different, rather the Books that have been revealed by Allah (swt) 583 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,146 have very different styles. 584 00:31:27,146 --> 00:31:30,342 Hazrat Isa A.S. used to talk in allegories. 585 00:31:30,342 --> 00:31:33,240 You see so many beautiful allegories are there in the Gospels. 586 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:34,819 Those are found in the Quran too. 587 00:31:34,819 --> 00:31:37,391 However, the Quran does not abound with them. 588 00:31:37,391 --> 00:31:40,066 Like the allegories, we find in the Gospel. 589 00:31:40,066 --> 00:31:42,942 Hence, every Prophet has his own taste, own disposition, 590 00:31:42,942 --> 00:31:44,971 there can't be an argument based upon it. 591 00:31:44,971 --> 00:31:46,575 [Hassan] Right, Ghamidi Sahab, let us move ahead with this chain, 592 00:31:46,575 --> 00:31:48,387 and let us know what is the next Narration? 593 00:31:48,387 --> 00:31:50,021 And what is discussed there? 594 00:31:50,021 --> 00:31:52,071 [Ghamidi] The Narration that follows 595 00:31:52,071 --> 00:31:56,413 is from Sahih Ibn-e Habban, its number is 892. 596 00:31:56,413 --> 00:32:03,582 Buraida Aslami R.A. states that he entered a Masjid with the Prophet (pbuh). 597 00:32:03,582 --> 00:32:07,387 He saw that a person while making Dua is saying, 598 00:32:07,387 --> 00:32:12,419 " Ya Allah, I ask you in return for my witness that 599 00:32:12,419 --> 00:32:17,501 There isn't any God except You. The Only and the support for all, 600 00:32:17,501 --> 00:32:20,954 Who neither has a father nor any peer. 601 00:32:20,954 --> 00:32:25,331 When the Prophet heard this he said, "I swear by the Being 602 00:32:25,331 --> 00:32:30,275 who holds control of my life, he has really asked 603 00:32:30,275 --> 00:32:33,291 in return for that great attribute of Allah, 604 00:32:33,291 --> 00:32:37,250 the attribute through which, if asked, then He bestows 605 00:32:37,250 --> 00:32:40,407 and if called through it, then He hears it necessarily". 606 00:32:40,407 --> 00:32:42,863 This was the comment made by the Prophet (pbuh). 607 00:32:42,863 --> 00:32:44,311 Then the Prophet saw a person 608 00:32:44,311 --> 00:32:47,259 sitting in the corner of the Masjid and reciting the Quran. 609 00:32:47,259 --> 00:32:50,056 i.e. first he saw that a person is making a supplication. 610 00:32:50,056 --> 00:32:53,074 Asking a Dua, there are some words being uttered by him. 611 00:32:53,074 --> 00:32:55,345 He appreciated those words. 612 00:32:55,345 --> 00:32:58,061 Then he saw a person sitting in the corner of the Masjid 613 00:32:58,061 --> 00:33:02,930 and reciting the Quran. The Prophet said that there isn't a doubt 614 00:33:02,930 --> 00:33:05,238 that he has been gifted with the harmony 615 00:33:05,238 --> 00:33:07,829 from among the harmonies of the family of Dawood. 616 00:33:07,829 --> 00:33:11,648 He was Abdullah Bin Qais. i.e. the person reciting the Quran, who was he? 617 00:33:11,648 --> 00:33:14,671 He was Abdullah Bin Qais, who is called Abu Musa Ash'ari. 618 00:33:14,671 --> 00:33:18,393 It seems probable that the Narration that we read previously was very brief. 619 00:33:18,393 --> 00:33:19,779 Here we have the details. 620 00:33:19,779 --> 00:33:22,974 Buraida says that I asked the Prophet (pbuh), 621 00:33:22,974 --> 00:33:25,847 O Messenger of Allah should I convey this comment to him? 622 00:33:25,847 --> 00:33:30,429 The Prophet said, "Yes go ahead". Hence as I said to Abu Musa, 623 00:33:30,429 --> 00:33:35,300 then he said in elation, that now you are my friend forever. 624 00:33:35,300 --> 00:33:37,344 Then he said that if I had known that 625 00:33:37,344 --> 00:33:40,317 the Prophet (pbuh) is hearing my recital, 626 00:33:40,317 --> 00:33:42,749 then I would have read it much better than that. 627 00:33:42,749 --> 00:33:45,178 [Hassan] Subhanallah. [Ghamidi] Here you can see 628 00:33:45,178 --> 00:33:48,849 both the things in the Narrations, if some person has made a Dua, 629 00:33:48,849 --> 00:33:51,361 and the words used in the Dua are good, 630 00:33:51,361 --> 00:33:55,722 proper references have been made, if there is some part of the Quran that 631 00:33:55,722 --> 00:33:59,815 has been read in it which really has a connection with the topic, 632 00:33:59,815 --> 00:34:02,283 then the Prophet (pbuh) has appreciated that. 633 00:34:02,283 --> 00:34:05,226 Here the Quran is being read, its recitation is being done, 634 00:34:05,226 --> 00:34:08,243 the voice is melodious, it is being read with a sweet voice, 635 00:34:08,243 --> 00:34:11,915 the Prophet (pbuh) praises it, and the same words that 636 00:34:11,915 --> 00:34:14,104 were mentioned earlier, we see those here too, 637 00:34:14,104 --> 00:34:15,918 and when he was made aware of that praise, 638 00:34:15,918 --> 00:34:18,393 he became extremely happy, and he was so filled with ecstasy 639 00:34:18,393 --> 00:34:19,994 that he went on to say that had he knew 640 00:34:19,994 --> 00:34:22,245 then he would have read more harmoniously. 641 00:34:22,245 --> 00:34:28,930 With a sweeter tone and melody. The objective for telling this is 642 00:34:28,930 --> 00:34:34,578 that for all such things the Prophet has adopted this attitude. 643 00:34:34,578 --> 00:34:36,218 Now, if some person asks that 644 00:34:36,218 --> 00:34:39,590 did the Prophet (pbuh) himself ever sit and read it in that way or not? 645 00:34:39,590 --> 00:34:41,225 It is not needed. The Prophet (pbuh) 646 00:34:41,225 --> 00:34:43,729 himself would read with a lot of excellence, however, 647 00:34:43,729 --> 00:34:45,391 the voice and style, 648 00:34:45,391 --> 00:34:48,251 the sweetness of the recital of Abu Musa Ash'ari, 649 00:34:48,251 --> 00:34:51,612 was highlighted by the Prophet (pbuh) and even appreciated it. 650 00:34:51,612 --> 00:34:53,612 [Hassan] Right Ghamidi Sahab. [Ghamidi] After this, 651 00:34:53,612 --> 00:34:56,443 the Narration which I am presenting to you is from Sahih Bukhari. 652 00:34:56,443 --> 00:34:59,816 Its number is 7544. [Hassan] Right. 653 00:34:59,816 --> 00:35:05,476 [Ghamidi] Abu Huraira R.A. states that he heard the Prophet (pbuh) say, 654 00:35:05,476 --> 00:35:10,547 that any Prophet of Allah, when he reads the Quran with a sweet and loud voice, 655 00:35:10,547 --> 00:35:14,682 then Allah (swt) listens to it with an attention 656 00:35:14,682 --> 00:35:20,298 He does not listen to anything else. So what does this Narration tell? 657 00:35:20,298 --> 00:35:23,548 i.e. if Abu Musa Ash'ari has read the Quran with a nice voice, 658 00:35:23,548 --> 00:35:26,831 so if you get to listen to it, then you should applaud it too. 659 00:35:26,831 --> 00:35:30,848 When the Prophet of Allah would listen to it, then he too would appreciate it. 660 00:35:30,848 --> 00:35:33,908 And here it was told that the Lord of this universe 661 00:35:33,908 --> 00:35:37,617 listens to it with attention as well. That point which was said at an occasion, 662 00:35:37,617 --> 00:35:39,600 when a person came and said that 663 00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:44,537 I like my shoes and dress be very beautiful so it was said, 664 00:35:44,537 --> 00:35:46,949 "Allahul Jameel Wa Yuhibbul Jamaal". 665 00:35:46,949 --> 00:35:51,573 'Allah Himself is beautiful and He loves beauty and elegance too'. 666 00:35:51,573 --> 00:35:54,701 Here it was told that melodious sweet voice, 667 00:35:54,701 --> 00:36:00,427 the voice which mesmerizes, like the voice of Abu Musa Ash'ari. 668 00:36:00,427 --> 00:36:04,020 Or of any other person, it wasn't just that I liked this voice, 669 00:36:04,020 --> 00:36:05,996 this voice should be liked by all, 670 00:36:05,996 --> 00:36:09,903 rather this voice is liked by the Lord of this Universe. 671 00:36:09,903 --> 00:36:13,144 So it implies that the things of beauty created by Allah (swt), 672 00:36:13,144 --> 00:36:16,408 are the favourite things of Allah. 673 00:36:16,408 --> 00:36:21,567 The beauty, elegance rather the sense of the aesthetics of Allah 674 00:36:21,567 --> 00:36:26,701 are manifested in those things of beauty. 675 00:36:26,701 --> 00:36:29,302 Hence these things should never be looked down upon, 676 00:36:29,302 --> 00:36:32,221 it implies that they should never be considered with scorn. 677 00:36:32,221 --> 00:36:34,700 i.e. it should not be thought as to what difference does it make? 678 00:36:34,700 --> 00:36:36,790 The Quran is the Book of Allah, we have to read it. 679 00:36:36,790 --> 00:36:40,016 When we read it we have to actually receive guidance from it. 680 00:36:40,016 --> 00:36:43,405 So what is the point in reading it with a good voice? 681 00:36:43,405 --> 00:36:47,093 So it was told that these are the aspects of beauty, elegance, and adornment. 682 00:36:47,093 --> 00:36:51,846 These have their own place. And it is liked by me as well as by my Lord. 683 00:36:51,846 --> 00:36:54,060 [Hassan] Right. [Ghamidi] So with this aspect, 684 00:36:54,060 --> 00:36:57,613 this Narration should be viewed. After this, we have taken the Narration 685 00:36:57,613 --> 00:37:02,896 from Musnad-e Ahmad, its number is 13377. 686 00:37:02,896 --> 00:37:10,709 Anas Bin Malik R.A. states that the Prophet (pbuh) was in one of his journeys. 687 00:37:10,709 --> 00:37:17,070 And along with him was a black young man, whose name was Anjasha. 688 00:37:17,070 --> 00:37:20,819 He had a good voice and would accompany his wives 689 00:37:20,819 --> 00:37:23,029 and sing songs while driving the camels. 690 00:37:23,029 --> 00:37:25,022 [Hassan] Okay. [Ghamidi] I am presenting 691 00:37:25,022 --> 00:37:28,812 these Narrations especially to you that 'women should not hear the voice of men', 692 00:37:28,812 --> 00:37:30,766 'men should not hear the voice of women', etc. 693 00:37:30,766 --> 00:37:33,552 Look at what comes forth in the light of these Narrations? 694 00:37:33,552 --> 00:37:36,573 With this, the reality also comes to be known that 695 00:37:36,573 --> 00:37:40,212 the point stated with regard to the Prophet's wives, 696 00:37:40,212 --> 00:37:44,357 that too has a context. I have had a detailed discussion on it. 697 00:37:44,357 --> 00:37:46,779 Those people who have inferred from it that 698 00:37:46,779 --> 00:37:48,772 even the voice of a woman is to be veiled, 699 00:37:48,772 --> 00:37:51,320 they haven't really understood the whole point. 700 00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:55,317 That point wasn't made there at all. There it was a specific situation, 701 00:37:55,317 --> 00:37:58,872 an occasion where the Prophet's wives have been instructed that 702 00:37:58,872 --> 00:38:02,067 these hypocrites who present themselves on your door. 703 00:38:02,067 --> 00:38:05,726 They are up to different conspiracies, and have mischief in their minds. 704 00:38:05,726 --> 00:38:09,179 Be wary of them. From that, the people deduced this! 705 00:38:09,179 --> 00:38:13,357 Here you see, that the Prophet (pbuh), is listening to women, slave-girls. 706 00:38:13,357 --> 00:38:15,831 He goes on further to say to Sayyeda Ayesha that 707 00:38:15,831 --> 00:38:18,126 if you wish to hear then she listens too. 708 00:38:18,126 --> 00:38:20,581 Black men are singing too, they are being listened to. 709 00:38:20,581 --> 00:38:22,930 And here as well you see, what are the words, 710 00:38:22,930 --> 00:38:26,180 "He had a sweet voice, his name was Anjasha, 711 00:38:26,180 --> 00:38:29,912 a black young man, who had a melodious voice, 712 00:38:29,912 --> 00:38:32,746 and used to accompany the Prophet's wives in the caravan 713 00:38:32,746 --> 00:38:35,717 to sing and drive the camels. Do you know what Hudi is? 714 00:38:35,717 --> 00:38:40,695 These are the songs that are sung to drive and speed up the camels. 715 00:38:40,695 --> 00:38:42,745 Those are called Hudi. 716 00:38:42,745 --> 00:38:45,979 This word is also similarly used in the Urdu language. 717 00:38:45,979 --> 00:38:49,864 So he used to do 'Hudi-Khwaani'. i.e. he used to sing such a song 718 00:38:49,864 --> 00:38:56,133 that the camels would speed up. And the journey would complete fast. 719 00:38:56,133 --> 00:39:00,554 Hence, on an occasion, i.e. he would accompany the Prophet's wives, 720 00:39:00,554 --> 00:39:03,599 and sing to drive the camels, hence on an occasion, 721 00:39:03,599 --> 00:39:06,002 he really speeded up the camels of the Caravan. 722 00:39:06,002 --> 00:39:08,448 [Hassan] Okay. [Ghamidi] i.e. he sang the Hudi, 723 00:39:08,448 --> 00:39:12,718 and did it so well that the camels of the caravan went on fast. 724 00:39:12,718 --> 00:39:18,888 Anas R.A. says that when he was near the Prophet and Anjasha he heard, 725 00:39:18,888 --> 00:39:23,056 that the Prophet on seeing this said, Alas, I feel sorry for you Anjasha 726 00:39:23,056 --> 00:39:27,350 please go slow Anjasha, let these Aabgeens (delicate vessels made of mud) move slowly 727 00:39:27,350 --> 00:39:30,615 i.e. these are women folk. See what a beautiful expression is it. 728 00:39:30,615 --> 00:39:32,735 Let these 'Aabgeens' travel slowly, 729 00:39:32,735 --> 00:39:35,815 i.e. he meant that the women are sitting on the camels, 730 00:39:35,815 --> 00:39:39,485 and if you sing in this way, and if the camels move on at this speed, 731 00:39:39,485 --> 00:39:41,984 then there is a fear that they might get harmed. 732 00:39:41,984 --> 00:39:43,579 [Hassan] The comment has been made on the speeding camels. 733 00:39:43,579 --> 00:39:45,308 [Ghamidi] The comment has been made on it. 734 00:39:45,308 --> 00:39:48,939 However, he used to sing Hudi, and would do so in a good voice. 735 00:39:48,939 --> 00:39:51,735 He used to accompany the Prophet's wives on the journey. 736 00:39:51,735 --> 00:39:55,968 He used to sing Hudi and did his job in such a wonderful voice, 737 00:39:55,968 --> 00:39:58,485 that the camels would start moving speedily. 738 00:39:58,485 --> 00:40:01,256 Here the Prophet said to him, sing in a lower voice. 739 00:40:01,256 --> 00:40:05,267 That you have such an exceptional power to mesmerize with your voice, 740 00:40:05,267 --> 00:40:08,962 that the camels do not pause at all, they just race forward. 741 00:40:08,962 --> 00:40:12,966 A little lower in voice as the camels have delicate vessels on them. 742 00:40:12,966 --> 00:40:15,112 And they might get harmed. 743 00:40:15,112 --> 00:40:16,996 [Hassan] This Narration Ghamidi Sahab was quite exceptional. 744 00:40:16,996 --> 00:40:17,825 It is well expounded. 745 00:40:17,825 --> 00:40:19,522 The time for this session is also nearing its end. 746 00:40:19,522 --> 00:40:20,488 I wish that you present the last Narration for today. 747 00:40:20,488 --> 00:40:22,159 And then we would move towards the close. 748 00:40:22,159 --> 00:40:24,165 This is the Narration of Syedna Umar R.A. 749 00:40:24,165 --> 00:40:27,324 and we have taken it from Nasai's As Sunan ul Kubra. 750 00:40:27,324 --> 00:40:30,575 Its number is 8193. 751 00:40:30,575 --> 00:40:33,777 Umar R.A. states, i.e. Syedna Umar, 752 00:40:33,777 --> 00:40:37,052 Umar Ibn-e Khattab R.A. Umar R.A. states that 753 00:40:37,052 --> 00:40:41,033 the Prophet (pbuh) in one of his journeys, 754 00:40:41,033 --> 00:40:47,106 said to Abdullah Bin Rawaha, would you speed up our rides a little. 755 00:40:47,106 --> 00:40:50,291 i.e. he himself requested for singing the Hudi. 756 00:40:50,291 --> 00:40:52,175 [Hassan] Okay. [Ghamidi] When the camels 757 00:40:52,175 --> 00:40:54,742 are journeying and the cameleers are with them. 758 00:40:54,742 --> 00:40:57,263 There are women as well men among them. 759 00:40:57,263 --> 00:41:00,346 And at times the camels slow down a bit, 760 00:41:00,346 --> 00:41:03,400 so the Prophet (pbuh) said to Abdullah Bin Rawaha, 761 00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:07,715 "Would you speed up our rides a little", Abdullah replied, 762 00:41:07,715 --> 00:41:11,050 "I have stopped with the singing of Hudi". 763 00:41:11,050 --> 00:41:14,160 On this Umar R.A. said, "Listen and Obey". 764 00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:17,852 You have stopped? What is this? The Prophet (pbuh) has said. 765 00:41:17,852 --> 00:41:22,487 You note the nature of a person, how it manifests? 766 00:41:22,487 --> 00:41:26,742 Umar said, "Listen and obey", hence he sang these couplets. 767 00:41:26,742 --> 00:41:29,299 "O Allah, had Your Mercy not been there, 768 00:41:29,299 --> 00:41:31,495 then we neither would have received Guidance, 769 00:41:31,495 --> 00:41:34,439 nor would have made charity. Neither would we offer Salah, 770 00:41:34,439 --> 00:41:38,262 so now bestow us with your peace and keep us steadfast 771 00:41:38,262 --> 00:41:41,487 in case of an encounter with the enemy". 772 00:41:41,487 --> 00:41:43,980 The original words that are used in it are 773 00:41:43,980 --> 00:41:49,614 "Allahumma Lawla Anta Mahtadaina Wala Tassaddaqna 774 00:41:49,614 --> 00:41:55,976 Wala Sallaina Fa Anzalan Sakinatan Ilaina Was Sabbitul akdaama In Laa Kaina" 775 00:41:55,976 --> 00:41:59,621 These were the couplets read by him, I have read its translation to you. 776 00:41:59,621 --> 00:42:03,224 When the Prophet (pbuh) heard these pure words, 777 00:42:03,224 --> 00:42:07,726 he said, "Ya Allah have Mercy upon him". Umar R.A. immediately said 778 00:42:07,726 --> 00:42:09,896 "Now the Mercy has become compulsory!" 779 00:42:09,896 --> 00:42:12,077 [Hassan] Subhanallah. [Ghamidi] There are some 780 00:42:12,077 --> 00:42:16,095 other aspects as well, i.e. how the Sahaba used to see the Prophet (pbuh)? 781 00:42:16,095 --> 00:42:20,572 What was the importance of a request of the Prophet (pbuh) for Syedna Umar R.A. 782 00:42:20,572 --> 00:42:22,905 And the point that if on any occasion 783 00:42:22,905 --> 00:42:26,698 the Prophet has blessed someone with such a sentence, 784 00:42:26,698 --> 00:42:29,415 then what was its significance for them? 785 00:42:29,415 --> 00:42:32,499 However, as of now, this aspect does not relate to our topic. 786 00:42:32,499 --> 00:42:34,735 Still, the real point is clear even in this. 787 00:42:34,735 --> 00:42:36,841 That such couplets were sung 788 00:42:36,841 --> 00:42:39,533 and the Prophet (pbuh) himself had requested for them. 789 00:42:39,533 --> 00:42:42,405 [Hassan] Ghamidi Sahab, all those Narrations from the corpus of Hadees 790 00:42:42,405 --> 00:42:44,356 where, with reference to Singing and Music, 791 00:42:44,356 --> 00:42:46,991 with some aspect or the other, some point has been discussed 792 00:42:46,991 --> 00:42:49,269 and those Narrations are acceptable to us 793 00:42:49,269 --> 00:42:50,997 with respect to their Chain of Narrations, 794 00:42:50,997 --> 00:42:52,856 i.e. either those are Sahih or the level of Hasan. 795 00:42:52,856 --> 00:42:55,203 We are exploring the whole corpus of Hadees with you. 796 00:42:55,203 --> 00:42:57,620 And the arguments that you had pointed out 797 00:42:57,620 --> 00:42:59,315 in the introductory Sessions, 798 00:42:59,315 --> 00:43:01,509 their applications are also becoming clear in these. 799 00:43:01,509 --> 00:43:03,769 A lot of newer aspects were unraveled in Today's session. 800 00:43:03,769 --> 00:43:05,249 I would wish that in the next episode 801 00:43:05,249 --> 00:43:07,986 all the Narrations would be completed inshallah. 802 00:43:07,986 --> 00:43:10,676 And after that a concise and complete analysis that 803 00:43:10,676 --> 00:43:13,381 the biographical recorda in history have in them, about the Prophet (pbuh). 804 00:43:13,381 --> 00:43:16,243 What aspects are stated with reference to Singing and Music? 805 00:43:16,243 --> 00:43:18,431 We have exhausted our time, we shall again be at your service. 806 00:43:18,431 --> 00:43:20,877 Thank you very much for your time till now. 807 00:43:20,877 --> 00:43:22,261 [Ghamidi] Thank you very much.