1 00:00:21,758 --> 00:00:26,746 It's easy to be captivated by the world out there. 2 00:00:27,054 --> 00:00:29,113 It's a fascinating place. 3 00:00:29,113 --> 00:00:32,261 It's deserving of this attention. 4 00:00:32,891 --> 00:00:37,587 But what if we were to invert our focus and look inside? 5 00:00:37,787 --> 00:00:39,607 What would we find? 6 00:00:41,057 --> 00:00:43,026 I study psychedelic drugs for a living, 7 00:00:43,026 --> 00:00:44,536 and the reason why I do this - 8 00:00:44,536 --> 00:00:45,975 apart from good fortune - 9 00:00:45,975 --> 00:00:49,077 is because I think they're special. 10 00:00:49,077 --> 00:00:52,036 And the reason why I think they're special 11 00:00:52,036 --> 00:00:54,626 is that I believe they have a unique ability 12 00:00:54,626 --> 00:00:59,516 to reveal to us the very depths of our minds. 13 00:00:59,516 --> 00:01:02,437 Dreams and perhaps a select few other states 14 00:01:02,437 --> 00:01:07,327 may hint at what lies beyond the reaches of normal consciousness, 15 00:01:07,517 --> 00:01:13,506 but psychedelics, in my view, are really unrivaled in their ability to do this. 16 00:01:15,426 --> 00:01:21,027 Now, many of you will be familiar with the word "psychedelic," 17 00:01:21,027 --> 00:01:26,660 but I doubt so many of you are familiar with its origins or what it means. 18 00:01:26,960 --> 00:01:31,367 So, psychedelic was a word that was coined in the 1950s 19 00:01:31,367 --> 00:01:34,479 by the British psychiatrist Humphry Osmond, 20 00:01:34,479 --> 00:01:37,795 with reference to this class of drugs that I study, 21 00:01:37,795 --> 00:01:41,417 and it combines two Greek words, "psyche" and "delos," 22 00:01:41,417 --> 00:01:43,035 which, when put together, 23 00:01:43,035 --> 00:01:48,729 mean "to make the mind manifest" or "to reveal the soul." 24 00:01:50,369 --> 00:01:55,510 Now, I've been fascinated by psychology for most of my adult life, 25 00:01:55,510 --> 00:01:58,177 but one question that has always bugged me 26 00:01:58,177 --> 00:02:02,838 is why can't it prove the existence of the unconscious mind? 27 00:02:03,288 --> 00:02:06,017 Is it because it doesn't exist? 28 00:02:06,177 --> 00:02:10,207 Or is it because it is especially difficult to see? 29 00:02:10,727 --> 00:02:13,782 Now, I've come to believe quite strongly that it's the latter, 30 00:02:13,782 --> 00:02:15,308 but then the key question is 31 00:02:15,308 --> 00:02:18,117 how could we make it easier to see? 32 00:02:18,777 --> 00:02:20,968 Freud famously told us about dreams, 33 00:02:20,968 --> 00:02:24,528 how they're a window in on the unconscious, a "royal road." 34 00:02:24,528 --> 00:02:27,806 But the problem is dreaming happens while we're asleep, 35 00:02:27,806 --> 00:02:29,023 and then when we wake up, 36 00:02:29,023 --> 00:02:34,566 all we're left with is this flimsy memory of what we actually experienced. 37 00:02:36,196 --> 00:02:39,010 So it's while I was studying for my Masters 38 00:02:39,010 --> 00:02:42,245 that I found myself asking whether a drug exists 39 00:02:42,245 --> 00:02:45,876 that could facilitate access to the unconscious mind. 40 00:02:45,876 --> 00:02:49,407 I did a brief library search, and I came across this book: 41 00:02:49,827 --> 00:02:55,395 "Realms of the Human Unconscious: Observations from LSD Research," 42 00:02:55,645 --> 00:03:00,888 written by the Czech psychiatrist Stanislav Grof in 1975. 43 00:03:00,888 --> 00:03:03,768 So I swiftly took this book out of the library; 44 00:03:03,768 --> 00:03:05,946 I brought it back to my room; 45 00:03:05,946 --> 00:03:09,278 I opened it and I read: 46 00:03:10,158 --> 00:03:12,625 "Many of the phenomena in these LSD sessions 47 00:03:12,625 --> 00:03:16,946 could be understood in psychological and psychoanalytic terms; 48 00:03:16,946 --> 00:03:21,579 they had a structure not dissimilar to that of dreams. 49 00:03:22,259 --> 00:03:23,638 And Freud once said of dreams 50 00:03:23,638 --> 00:03:26,728 that they are a royal road to a knowledge of the unconscious mind, 51 00:03:26,728 --> 00:03:28,767 but to an even greater degree, 52 00:03:28,767 --> 00:03:32,586 this seems to be true for the LSD experience." 53 00:03:32,586 --> 00:03:34,806 And finally: "The capacity of psychedelic drugs 54 00:03:34,806 --> 00:03:38,046 to exteriorise otherwise invisible phenomena 55 00:03:38,046 --> 00:03:41,065 and make them the subject of scientific investigation 56 00:03:41,065 --> 00:03:42,243 gives these substances 57 00:03:42,243 --> 00:03:47,533 a unique potential as research tools for the exploration of the human mind. 58 00:03:47,533 --> 00:03:50,608 It does not seem inappropriate or an exaggeration 59 00:03:50,608 --> 00:03:55,125 to compare their potential significance for psychiatry" - and for psychology - 60 00:03:55,125 --> 00:04:00,919 "to that of the microscope for medicine or the telescope for astronomy." 61 00:04:00,919 --> 00:04:03,306 So, as you can imagine, after reading these things, 62 00:04:03,306 --> 00:04:07,596 I was filled with a very strong sense of purpose and direction. 63 00:04:07,596 --> 00:04:10,987 I wrote to Professor David Nutt, then at the University of Bristol, 64 00:04:10,987 --> 00:04:14,458 and I told him I wanted to study the brain on LSD 65 00:04:14,458 --> 00:04:17,688 and to see whether it looks like the dreaming brain. 66 00:04:18,158 --> 00:04:21,538 Anyway, David was kind enough to allow me to join his team, 67 00:04:21,538 --> 00:04:24,848 and then four years later, I completed my PhD with him. 68 00:04:24,848 --> 00:04:26,037 Soon after that, 69 00:04:26,037 --> 00:04:30,318 I was lucky enough to begin some quite exciting brain-imaging research 70 00:04:30,318 --> 00:04:32,216 with psychedelic drugs. 71 00:04:32,216 --> 00:04:37,217 First with psilocybin, which is the active ingredient in magic mushrooms, 72 00:04:37,217 --> 00:04:41,065 and more recently with LSD. 73 00:04:43,105 --> 00:04:45,776 Now, it's quite difficult to explain to people 74 00:04:45,776 --> 00:04:48,169 how psychedelic drugs work in the brain, 75 00:04:48,169 --> 00:04:50,925 and it's harder still to do that in 18 minutes. 76 00:04:50,925 --> 00:04:52,586 So instead what I'm going to do 77 00:04:52,586 --> 00:04:57,846 is show you a few pictures and give you a few analogies to think about. 78 00:04:57,846 --> 00:05:01,747 So what we're looking at here are communication pathways in the brain. 79 00:05:01,747 --> 00:05:04,536 Each line is a communication pathway 80 00:05:04,536 --> 00:05:07,037 between two different regions in the brain. 81 00:05:07,037 --> 00:05:08,097 And believe it or not, 82 00:05:08,097 --> 00:05:11,915 there's actually an equal number of lines, or pathways, in these two circles, 83 00:05:11,915 --> 00:05:13,866 yet they look very different, don't they? 84 00:05:13,866 --> 00:05:17,576 Essentially, what we're seeing is the normal brain on the left, 85 00:05:17,576 --> 00:05:20,459 where communication is confined 86 00:05:20,459 --> 00:05:24,060 to particular communities, or cliques, in the brain. 87 00:05:24,074 --> 00:05:25,187 So, for example, 88 00:05:25,187 --> 00:05:30,877 visual regions are talking mostly with other visual regions; 89 00:05:31,077 --> 00:05:33,097 this is what happens ordinarily. 90 00:05:33,097 --> 00:05:35,594 Then we look at the psychedelic brain on the right; 91 00:05:35,594 --> 00:05:37,537 there's much less of this cliquing, 92 00:05:37,537 --> 00:05:40,647 and much more of an open, freer conversation 93 00:05:40,647 --> 00:05:43,327 going on across the brain. 94 00:05:44,007 --> 00:05:47,688 Another useful way to think of how psychedelics work in the brain 95 00:05:47,688 --> 00:05:51,665 is to think of what it's like to be an infant: 96 00:05:51,985 --> 00:05:55,047 Experiencing everything is novel; 97 00:05:55,307 --> 00:05:56,754 feeling emotionally labile - 98 00:05:56,754 --> 00:05:59,348 one minute you're laughing and the next you're crying; 99 00:05:59,608 --> 00:06:03,088 having a wildly overactive imagination; 100 00:06:03,088 --> 00:06:07,546 being mesmerized by the likes of Iggle Piggle or Makka Pakka. 101 00:06:08,316 --> 00:06:10,617 It's no coincidence, therefore, 102 00:06:10,617 --> 00:06:15,645 that if you look at how the brain develops as we develop from infancy into adulthood 103 00:06:15,645 --> 00:06:20,055 and you compare that with how the brain changes under a psychedelic, 104 00:06:20,055 --> 00:06:22,669 what you see are kind of mirror opposites. 105 00:06:22,669 --> 00:06:26,596 So instead of a brain becoming more sophisticated as we develop, 106 00:06:26,596 --> 00:06:27,876 more finessed, 107 00:06:27,876 --> 00:06:30,066 but also more constrained, 108 00:06:30,336 --> 00:06:35,674 you have a brain that is simpler and freer in its functioning. 109 00:06:36,764 --> 00:06:40,249 The third useful way to think of how psychedelics work in the brain 110 00:06:40,249 --> 00:06:42,336 is to think of the dream state. 111 00:06:42,336 --> 00:06:46,117 Here we're looking at the effects of LSD on the brain, 112 00:06:46,117 --> 00:06:48,787 and what we're seeing is that much more of the brain 113 00:06:48,787 --> 00:06:53,715 contributes to the visual experience under LSD than it does ordinarily. 114 00:06:54,307 --> 00:06:57,208 And this effect correlated very strongly 115 00:06:57,208 --> 00:07:00,888 with the dreamlike visions that people reported under LSD 116 00:07:00,888 --> 00:07:03,248 when their eyes were closed. 117 00:07:03,458 --> 00:07:07,366 So we could think of both these states, the dream state and the psychedelic state, 118 00:07:07,366 --> 00:07:11,946 as conditions where the brain becomes untethered, or unanchored, 119 00:07:11,946 --> 00:07:14,717 from incoming sensory information. 120 00:07:14,717 --> 00:07:15,837 And then in this state, 121 00:07:15,837 --> 00:07:19,956 it can operate in a more anarchic, freewheeling kind of way, 122 00:07:19,956 --> 00:07:23,908 conjuring up imagery from the very depths of the mind and the brain 123 00:07:23,908 --> 00:07:29,028 rather than relying on sensory information coming into the brain. 124 00:07:30,528 --> 00:07:32,057 Perhaps the most important thing 125 00:07:32,057 --> 00:07:34,588 to have come out of our research with psychedelics 126 00:07:34,588 --> 00:07:36,918 isn't the knowledge of how they work in the brain 127 00:07:36,918 --> 00:07:39,888 but rather some idea of how they may be useful 128 00:07:39,888 --> 00:07:41,877 or how they can be applied. 129 00:07:42,217 --> 00:07:44,019 So, we've recently completed 130 00:07:44,019 --> 00:07:46,918 the first phase of the first step of clinical trial, 131 00:07:46,918 --> 00:07:52,958 looking at psilocybin, magic mushrooms, as a treatment for major depression. 132 00:07:54,388 --> 00:07:57,157 Now, it's important that I make you aware 133 00:07:57,157 --> 00:07:59,909 of the magnitude of the problem of depression; 134 00:07:59,909 --> 00:08:03,588 it really isn't something that should be swept under the carpet 135 00:08:03,588 --> 00:08:06,287 although, unfortunately, often it is. 136 00:08:06,557 --> 00:08:09,851 It's a leading cause of disability, worldwide. 137 00:08:10,601 --> 00:08:14,209 It actually affects some 350 million people. 138 00:08:14,209 --> 00:08:15,507 To put that in perspective, 139 00:08:15,507 --> 00:08:20,176 that's more than the total population of the United States. 140 00:08:20,566 --> 00:08:23,588 And if you care about money, it's also especially costly. 141 00:08:23,588 --> 00:08:26,919 It's the most costly brain disorder in Europe, 142 00:08:26,919 --> 00:08:31,707 and it's annual cost to the U.S. alone is 200 billion dollars. 143 00:08:31,707 --> 00:08:34,728 That's roughly the GDP of the Republic of Ireland. 144 00:08:35,418 --> 00:08:38,206 And depression is quite an insidious disorder; 145 00:08:38,206 --> 00:08:40,908 it's often evident by the absence of something. 146 00:08:40,908 --> 00:08:45,678 That might be the absence of pleasure, or positive mood more generally, 147 00:08:45,678 --> 00:08:48,751 or it could be the absence of the individual themselves; 148 00:08:48,751 --> 00:08:53,909 they may simply not get out of bed in the morning and make it into work. 149 00:08:53,909 --> 00:08:59,228 The depression is the leading cause of absenteeism in the workplace. 150 00:09:00,088 --> 00:09:03,501 But depression can also be more stark in its presentation 151 00:09:03,501 --> 00:09:06,688 and often, tragically, when it's too late. 152 00:09:06,688 --> 00:09:11,805 Some 15% of patients with major depression will take their own lives, 153 00:09:11,805 --> 00:09:15,807 and it's a frightening statistic now that suicide is the leading cause 154 00:09:15,817 --> 00:09:21,028 of death among males under the age of 45 in the UK. 155 00:09:22,318 --> 00:09:24,198 So what can be done about these things? 156 00:09:24,198 --> 00:09:26,824 How effective are current treatments? 157 00:09:26,824 --> 00:09:30,699 Well, the good news is that they're not ineffective. 158 00:09:30,909 --> 00:09:33,696 This chart here shows the relative effect size 159 00:09:33,696 --> 00:09:35,996 of different treatments for depression. 160 00:09:35,996 --> 00:09:37,913 Just to give you some perspective on it, 161 00:09:37,913 --> 00:09:41,337 it's convention to consider that an effect size of 0.8 - 162 00:09:41,337 --> 00:09:43,908 which is where the line is - as large. 163 00:09:43,908 --> 00:09:45,104 So you can see 164 00:09:45,104 --> 00:09:50,167 that antidepressant medications, psychotherapy and placebo 165 00:09:50,167 --> 00:09:54,888 all have pretty large effect sizes in depression. 166 00:09:55,538 --> 00:09:58,267 But even so, around about 50% of patients 167 00:09:58,267 --> 00:10:01,989 won't respond to the antidepressants that their doctors prescribe them, 168 00:10:01,989 --> 00:10:06,406 and as many of 20% fail to respond to any treatment at all. 169 00:10:06,406 --> 00:10:10,045 And it's these particularly refractory treatment-resistant cases 170 00:10:10,045 --> 00:10:13,527 that we're seeing in our current trial. 171 00:10:14,187 --> 00:10:16,620 But before I tell you about our results, 172 00:10:16,620 --> 00:10:19,117 I think it's important that I emphasize to you, 173 00:10:19,117 --> 00:10:22,806 especially to those of you who are naive to the effects of psychedelics, 174 00:10:22,806 --> 00:10:24,974 that an experience with one of these drugs 175 00:10:24,974 --> 00:10:28,959 can be among the most profound of the whole of your life. 176 00:10:28,959 --> 00:10:32,665 So evidence suggests that in terms of meaningfulness, 177 00:10:32,665 --> 00:10:35,437 it can be up there with pretty much anything: 178 00:10:35,437 --> 00:10:36,985 facing death, 179 00:10:37,245 --> 00:10:39,115 falling in love 180 00:10:39,525 --> 00:10:41,825 or bringing in new life. 181 00:10:42,365 --> 00:10:45,710 So the key point is that these are not party drugs; 182 00:10:45,710 --> 00:10:50,417 they're incredibly powerful substances that should be treated with respect, 183 00:10:50,417 --> 00:10:56,658 as they have been by certain cultures for hundreds, if not thousands, of years. 184 00:10:57,628 --> 00:11:01,427 It's also important to emphasize that when we give psilocybin to our patients, 185 00:11:01,427 --> 00:11:05,086 we do so with full legal and ethical approval, 186 00:11:05,086 --> 00:11:06,868 and we simply don't tell them 187 00:11:06,868 --> 00:11:12,286 to chuck a bunch of magic mushrooms down their necks and hope for the best. 188 00:11:12,286 --> 00:11:15,237 We carefully prepare them for their experiences. 189 00:11:15,237 --> 00:11:20,337 They're looked after by a trained team of therapists. 190 00:11:21,467 --> 00:11:23,475 They have two sessions with the psilocybin; 191 00:11:23,475 --> 00:11:25,538 they're looked after throughout, 192 00:11:25,538 --> 00:11:30,927 and the therapists help them make sense of things afterwards. 193 00:11:32,077 --> 00:11:34,937 So, here we can see the magnitude of the effect 194 00:11:34,937 --> 00:11:37,927 that we're seeing with psilocybin so far. 195 00:11:37,927 --> 00:11:39,275 Psilocybin is shown in blue, 196 00:11:39,275 --> 00:11:42,048 and you can see the data at two weeks post-treatment 197 00:11:42,048 --> 00:11:46,007 and three months post-treatment. 198 00:11:46,587 --> 00:11:49,266 Now, I should caution that it's early days yet; 199 00:11:49,266 --> 00:11:51,747 we had 12 patients in the trial at this stage, 200 00:11:51,747 --> 00:11:54,849 now, actually, we have more data and the effects look even better. 201 00:11:54,849 --> 00:11:58,187 But even so, there was several hundred patients in these other studies. 202 00:11:58,187 --> 00:12:01,747 Also, all of our patients knew that they were going to receive psilocybin 203 00:12:01,747 --> 00:12:05,406 whereas these other studies had a placebo-control element - 204 00:12:05,406 --> 00:12:08,058 that's actually what we are going to be doing next. 205 00:12:08,058 --> 00:12:09,746 Even so with these caveats, 206 00:12:09,746 --> 00:12:13,426 you can see that the magnitude of the effect that we're seeing so far 207 00:12:13,426 --> 00:12:15,407 is pretty considerable, 208 00:12:15,407 --> 00:12:17,968 even at the three-month post-treatment period 209 00:12:17,968 --> 00:12:23,728 where they haven't received any treatments from us for that duration of time. 210 00:12:24,978 --> 00:12:28,856 Also remember that our patients had treatment-resistant depression; 211 00:12:29,216 --> 00:12:30,828 many of our patients reported 212 00:12:30,828 --> 00:12:34,008 having had their depression for most of their adult lives. 213 00:12:34,008 --> 00:12:38,327 The average duration of the illness in this sample was 18 years, 214 00:12:38,327 --> 00:12:41,909 yet all of them showed some improvement in their depressive symptoms 215 00:12:41,909 --> 00:12:44,968 for at least three weeks after the treatment. 216 00:12:45,198 --> 00:12:50,855 Some two-thirds, 67%, met criteria for remission one week post treatment. 217 00:12:50,855 --> 00:12:54,076 Remission means they are essentially depression free. 218 00:12:54,076 --> 00:12:58,438 And 42% maintained that status of being depression free 219 00:12:58,438 --> 00:13:02,146 for three months after the treatment. 220 00:13:02,546 --> 00:13:06,007 So to finish, I'm just going to read you a short case report 221 00:13:06,007 --> 00:13:09,667 written by one of the patients in our trial. 222 00:13:09,667 --> 00:13:11,295 He's male, age 52, 223 00:13:11,295 --> 00:13:13,878 has a very long history of depression, 224 00:13:13,878 --> 00:13:17,346 quite severe depression stretching back to his 20s. 225 00:13:17,346 --> 00:13:19,718 He's tried a number of different medications, 226 00:13:19,718 --> 00:13:21,688 all of which haven't worked for him, 227 00:13:21,688 --> 00:13:23,557 and also psychotherapy. 228 00:13:24,397 --> 00:13:28,236 So about his baseline state before the treatment, he says the following: 229 00:13:28,236 --> 00:13:30,482 "For decades, I've battled depression. 230 00:13:30,482 --> 00:13:33,878 The awful feeling that you don't matter, you're not making a difference, 231 00:13:33,878 --> 00:13:36,907 that everyone else is having a better life. 232 00:13:36,907 --> 00:13:42,098 The utter pointlessness of it all, getting no real enjoyment from anything." 233 00:13:42,738 --> 00:13:44,559 Then about the experience, he says: 234 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:47,087 "There simply aren't words to describe it, 235 00:13:47,087 --> 00:13:51,500 but I can say that the usual negative self-narration that I have 236 00:13:51,500 --> 00:13:53,776 had vanished completely. 237 00:13:53,776 --> 00:13:56,976 It was replaced by a sense of beautiful chaos, 238 00:13:57,266 --> 00:14:01,428 a landscape of unimaginable color and beauty. 239 00:14:01,838 --> 00:14:07,416 I began to see that all of my concerns about daily living weren't relevant, 240 00:14:07,416 --> 00:14:11,249 that they were a result of a negative spiral. 241 00:14:11,859 --> 00:14:15,098 I also felt like I was learning without being taught; 242 00:14:15,098 --> 00:14:17,449 that intuition was being fed. 243 00:14:17,449 --> 00:14:20,535 The fleeting feelings from my past came back, 244 00:14:20,535 --> 00:14:21,975 memories too, 245 00:14:21,975 --> 00:14:25,148 both of which had seemed long forgotten." 246 00:14:26,198 --> 00:14:27,656 Then about the outcome; 247 00:14:27,656 --> 00:14:30,677 this was written a couple of weeks after he completed the trial. 248 00:14:30,677 --> 00:14:34,387 He says, "Although it's early days yet, the results are amazing. 249 00:14:34,387 --> 00:14:39,718 I feel more confident and calm than I have in such a long time. 250 00:14:39,718 --> 00:14:42,967 My outlook has changed significantly too. 251 00:14:42,967 --> 00:14:49,217 I'm more aware that it's pointless to get wrapped up in endless negativity. 252 00:14:49,657 --> 00:14:53,718 I also feel as if I've seen a much clearer picture. 253 00:14:53,998 --> 00:14:58,228 Another side to this is that I feel like I've had a second chance, 254 00:14:58,228 --> 00:15:00,226 like a survivor. 255 00:15:00,596 --> 00:15:02,987 I can enjoy things now the way I used to 256 00:15:02,987 --> 00:15:05,887 without the cynicism, without the oppression. 257 00:15:05,887 --> 00:15:11,725 At its most basic, I feel like I used to before the depression." 258 00:15:12,685 --> 00:15:15,647 If you're curious how this patient is doing in the longer term, 259 00:15:15,647 --> 00:15:18,319 we've collected his six-month follow-up data now; 260 00:15:18,319 --> 00:15:21,377 I'm pleased to say that he's still in remission. 261 00:15:21,377 --> 00:15:25,604 You can see his data highlighted here in blue. 262 00:15:25,604 --> 00:15:28,557 Of course, I've cherry-picked a particularly good example here, 263 00:15:28,557 --> 00:15:30,916 and you can see from other patients on this chart 264 00:15:30,916 --> 00:15:33,037 that at the three-month follow-up period, 265 00:15:33,037 --> 00:15:35,978 they're showing some signs of relapse. 266 00:15:35,978 --> 00:15:40,168 So this is an important opportunity to say that this isn't a magic cure; 267 00:15:40,168 --> 00:15:44,148 it's not a golden bullet that's going to help everyone; 268 00:15:44,158 --> 00:15:46,237 there's much more work that needs to be done 269 00:15:46,237 --> 00:15:52,514 to learn how to optimize this treatment and further test its effectiveness. 270 00:15:52,954 --> 00:15:56,598 But hopefully you've got a sense from that case that I reported, 271 00:15:56,598 --> 00:16:00,427 and I can tell you from many other cases I've sat with now 272 00:16:00,427 --> 00:16:02,917 that when this is done properly - 273 00:16:02,917 --> 00:16:05,237 with the right level of preparation, 274 00:16:05,667 --> 00:16:08,088 good drug effects working in synergy, 275 00:16:08,088 --> 00:16:09,867 with good therapy - 276 00:16:09,867 --> 00:16:14,628 to lift the veil on the mind and exorcise what lies beneath, 277 00:16:14,628 --> 00:16:17,767 it can truly work like a dream. 278 00:16:17,767 --> 00:16:19,097 Thank you very much. 279 00:16:19,097 --> 00:16:20,671 (Applause)