WEBVTT 00:00:14.852 --> 00:00:19.719 My early assistants would throw out some paper and I would take it out of the trash. 00:00:19.719 --> 00:00:23.069 "Why are you throwing this away, you're gonna use it." 00:00:24.551 --> 00:00:29.040 When I was going to school, you had to write on both sides of the paper on the same paper. 00:00:29.873 --> 00:00:35.357 So yea, I'm a pack rat, "Ah, I could use that somehow." 00:00:37.573 --> 00:00:43.156 I saw a lot of that in India, how people there would recycle anything. 00:00:43.156 --> 00:00:48.023 And make something new out of it. You see it a lot in folk art. 00:00:48.023 --> 00:00:53.936 I probably got my... My first lesson probably came from the shredders. 00:00:53.936 --> 00:00:58.836 You know, you are picking up stuff out of the street, and I would pick up photographs from the street. 00:01:04.852 --> 00:01:10.735 Well, I think if somebody wanted to borrow an imagery and use it, I would be flattered. 00:01:13.203 --> 00:01:16.387 Ha, here's something I worked on. 00:01:16.816 --> 00:01:25.916 I really just don't think imageries should be owned, including my own. 00:01:25.916 --> 00:01:34.167 If it's part of our world, it's like owning words. How could you own words? I mean it's stuff to use. 00:01:37.640 --> 00:01:42.473 She was retouched, like... [chuckles]