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Dialogue: 0,0:00:01.40,0:00:02.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, my name is
Dialogue: 0,0:00:02.76,0:00:04.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Michelle Nario Redmond.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:04.68,0:00:06.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I am a social psychologist
Dialogue: 0,0:00:06.37,0:00:08.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I teach at Hiram College.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:08.52,0:00:11.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the psychology \Nand biomedical humanities program,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:11.44,0:00:15.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I just wrote a book on ableism, \Nthe causes and consequences
Dialogue: 0,0:00:15.73,0:00:18.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of disability prejudice.\NMy first memory,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:18.97,0:00:21.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I'll just back up and say in 1990,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:21.27,0:00:23.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when the ADA passed \NI was in graduate school,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:23.77,0:00:33.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in Kansas, and disability prejudice,\Nthe ADA or anything
Dialogue: 0,0:00:33.13,0:00:38.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,related to disability issues \Nwere completely off my radar,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:38.95,0:00:43.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I worked at a place \Nwhere one of the pioneers
Dialogue: 0,0:00:43.58,0:00:46.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of disability studies worked, \NBeatrice Wright,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:46.76,0:00:50.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I had yet to have a class with her.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:50.40,0:00:53.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It really wasn't until 1995,\Nwhich was five years later,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:53.88,0:00:58.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when my daughter was born,\NSierra, with spina bifoda,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:58.57,0:01:03.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that I became aware \Nof disability and found the work
Dialogue: 0,0:01:03.39,0:01:08.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of Carol Gill and Simi Litton\Nand began to educate myself
Dialogue: 0,0:01:08.86,0:01:15.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on disability studies and its scope,\Nand the first memory I have of
Dialogue: 0,0:01:15.35,0:01:22.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,confronting inaccessible spaces\Nwas a few years later, when we enrolled
Dialogue: 0,0:01:22.57,0:01:26.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,my daughter Sierra in a preschool,\Nat a Catholic preschool,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:26.52,0:01:31.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,right down the road; and it just didn't\Neven dawn on me that we would have to
Dialogue: 0,0:01:31.92,0:01:36.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,work so hard for her to be accommodated\Nas a preschooler,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:36.47,0:01:41.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it was really a function of\Nthe fact that the building was older,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:41.25,0:01:47.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there were steps, and they really didn't\Nknow, nor did they need to legally know,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:47.14,0:01:52.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about reasonable accommodations \Nand civil rights of their students,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:52.55,0:01:59.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because they were a private facility and\Nweren't subject to the ADA's rules.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:59.62,0:02:05.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it became clear to me that we needed \Nto find a new preschool, and luckily
Dialogue: 0,0:02:05.85,0:02:10.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we found another private place - \Nit wasn't a public school -
Dialogue: 0,0:02:10.51,0:02:14.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it was a music school settlement\Nand they had resources
Dialogue: 0,0:02:14.37,0:02:18.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they were already operating \Nunder a sort of set of presumptions
Dialogue: 0,0:02:18.99,0:02:23.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about the value of diversity\Nand diverse perspectives,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:23.26,0:02:28.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we didn't really have to ask for much,\Nbecause they bent over backwards
Dialogue: 0,0:02:29.03,0:02:34.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to include my daughter\Nin a typical classroom, with her peers,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:34.32,0:02:38.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,her preschool peers, music classes,\Nthere were so many eclectic--
Dialogue: 0,0:02:39.02,0:02:44.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,movement classes, and they even\Npurchased equipment
Dialogue: 0,0:02:44.60,0:02:52.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for their exercise room and movement room\Nthat would be useful to her among others,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:52.34,0:02:59.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and she has since grown up to become this teacher \Nand has applied to work there
Dialogue: 0,0:02:59.44,0:03:02.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as a preschool teacher, so I think\Nit would be really amazing
Dialogue: 0,0:03:02.46,0:03:08.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if she came full circle, but I guess\Nto answer the broader question
Dialogue: 0,0:03:08.53,0:03:14.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about being frustrated and aware of\Ninaccessibility and lack of inclusion,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:15.54,0:03:20.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we were in a district that, when she then\Nwas about to move to preschool,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:21.02,0:03:25.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I knew that she probably wouldn't be \Nable to go to a private school,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:25.34,0:03:30.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not only because of the financial cost\Nbut also because they would not have to
Dialogue: 0,0:03:30.52,0:03:34.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,think about best practices\Nand the law when it came to
Dialogue: 0,0:03:34.57,0:03:37.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,accommodating their \Nstudents with disabilities,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:37.50,0:03:41.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and so I knew we would be\Nlooking at the public school,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:41.32,0:03:45.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the public school in our neigbourhood\Nwas not accessible.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:45.40,0:03:49.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We went to visit it,\Nthe playground had a little house
Dialogue: 0,0:03:49.69,0:03:52.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that she wouldn't have been \Nable to get into,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:52.25,0:03:55.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it was really disheartening\Nand so it came at a time
Dialogue: 0,0:03:55.88,0:03:58.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when we were already \Nlooking for other opportunities,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:58.39,0:04:01.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and my husband got an opportunity\Nto move us as a family
Dialogue: 0,0:04:01.66,0:04:04.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the West Coast\Nof Portland of Oregon,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:04.16,0:04:10.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so the way I-- so the way we had to\Nnavigate her early educational experiences
Dialogue: 0,0:04:10.57,0:04:17.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was to only look at spaces and schools\Nthat were in districts that were new,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:17.65,0:04:23.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so that had buildings \Nand had training in terms of
Dialogue: 0,0:04:23.18,0:04:26.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,accommodating their diverse students\Nand their disabled students,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:26.37,0:04:31.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because just having the brief experiences\Nthat I did with the preschool
Dialogue: 0,0:04:31.32,0:04:38.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and IEP meetings that were going to\Nrequire me to fight at every juncture
Dialogue: 0,0:04:38.87,0:04:42.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for her basic rights \Nto show what she knows
Dialogue: 0,0:04:42.98,0:04:47.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and participate and recognize herself\Nas a valuable contributor
Dialogue: 0,0:04:47.36,0:04:50.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the school community.\NWe're not going to be forthcoming
Dialogue: 0,0:04:50.94,0:04:54.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,without a fight, \Nand so we narrowed our search
Dialogue: 0,0:04:54.45,0:04:57.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to a district,\Nand thank God we had the opportunity
Dialogue: 0,0:04:57.22,0:05:02.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the resources to do this,\Nthat was pretty known for their
Dialogue: 0,0:05:02.51,0:05:04.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,inclusivity.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:04.10,0:05:07.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We did that also when we came back \Nto the Cleveland, Ohio area.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:07.81,0:05:12.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We were able to avoid all districts\Nthat weren't at the cutting edge
Dialogue: 0,0:05:12.41,0:05:16.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of full inclusion and proof of excellence\Nand had newer buildings
Dialogue: 0,0:05:16.58,0:05:19.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that could accommodate those \Nwith disabilities,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:19.37,0:05:25.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I guess that that was my earliest\Nmemory of how, 'Oh, we have a road
Dialogue: 0,0:05:25.92,0:05:32.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ahead of us and we have to take it upon\Nourselves to either continue to fight
Dialogue: 0,0:05:32.47,0:05:40.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,battles that had already been won, \Nlegislatively, or, finds spaces, places
Dialogue: 0,0:05:40.38,0:05:42.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and organizations that were ahead\Nof the curve
Dialogue: 0,0:05:42.98,0:05:50.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in terms of implementing, monitoring and \Njust execute the basic civil rights
Dialogue: 0,0:05:50.48,0:05:52.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of their various constituents
Dialogue: 0,0:05:53.02,0:05:58.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The impact that all of that has had on me \Nis to just be able to communicate
Dialogue: 0,0:05:58.64,0:06:02.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with other parents and students \Nwith disabilities
Dialogue: 0,0:06:02.33,0:06:09.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about not only knowing their rights but\Nknowing how to get those rights
Dialogue: 0,0:06:09.09,0:06:17.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how to advocate for ensuring that those \Nrights are addressed, are met.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:17.41,0:06:21.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think the ADA has made \Na huge difference
Dialogue: 0,0:06:21.20,0:06:24.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the 'ah ha' moment was even when I was\Ncollating information for this book
Dialogue: 0,0:06:24.81,0:06:28.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on disability prejudice, I realised that \Nwhen I was a kid,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:28.96,0:06:33.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when I was growing up in the 60s and 70s, \Npeople with disabilities weren't able to
Dialogue: 0,0:06:33.69,0:06:39.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,do any of the things that we took for \Ngranted as kids- go to the movies
Dialogue: 0,0:06:39.43,0:06:44.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,go to restaurants, go to visit a friend,\Nat a friend's house, or invite
Dialogue: 0,0:06:44.55,0:06:46.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,others to your birthday parties.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:46.78,0:06:54.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Since the ADA passed in 1990, it wasn't \Nan immediate set of changes,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:55.01,0:07:01.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as, there has been significant progress\Nmade, particularly in public spaces
Dialogue: 0,0:07:01.93,0:07:07.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and in employment settings, where there\Nare even employers
Dialogue: 0,0:07:07.96,0:07:13.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who are part of an organization \Nof inclusive excellence, who
Dialogue: 0,0:07:13.88,0:07:18.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,recognize that disabled employees are \Nactually more reliable and
Dialogue: 0,0:07:18.72,0:07:23.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have less turnover and are worth\Ninvesting in and promoting.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:23.23,0:07:28.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But, there are still so many places, \Nsmall businesses, educational institutions
Dialogue: 0,0:07:28.94,0:07:41.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that are not carrying out basic gains and\Npractices that the ADA has made possible
Dialogue: 0,0:07:41.46,0:07:45.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there's just way too much variation,\Nand I think part of that
Dialogue: 0,0:07:45.23,0:07:48.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is just a lack of education in terms what
Dialogue: 0,0:07:49.14,0:07:54.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is reasonable and what is necessary
Dialogue: 0,0:07:54.71,0:07:56.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in terms of accommodating your citizenry
Dialogue: 0,0:07:57.01,0:08:01.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and lack of resources in some cases but
Dialogue: 0,0:08:01.26,0:08:03.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,also a lot of misinformation about whether
Dialogue: 0,0:08:03.73,0:08:08.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or not it's worth it. The ADA is going to
Dialogue: 0,0:08:08.29,0:08:12.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,be 30 here in July. We're celebrating all
Dialogue: 0,0:08:12.54,0:08:15.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,over the country and we are still fighting
Dialogue: 0,0:08:15.64,0:08:19.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for businesses to do what they should have
Dialogue: 0,0:08:19.91,0:08:22.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,done 30 years ago, those that have been
Dialogue: 0,0:08:22.39,0:08:25.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,around this long. They have not, they have
Dialogue: 0,0:08:25.56,0:08:27.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have waited for complaints or they have
Dialogue: 0,0:08:27.85,0:08:31.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,failed to do but the bare minimum in
Dialogue: 0,0:08:31.47,0:08:34.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,terms of recruiting the largest minority
Dialogue: 0,0:08:34.92,0:08:37.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I work in the education sphere and to me,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:37.79,0:08:40.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we could be doing so much more with
Dialogue: 0,0:08:40.32,0:08:42.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,advertising and recruiting for those kinds
Dialogue: 0,0:08:42.94,0:08:45.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of students that we tend to really, at
Dialogue: 0,0:08:45.70,0:08:49.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,least my institution, do well to retain
Dialogue: 0,0:08:49.40,0:08:52.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because we're a small, intimate college
Dialogue: 0,0:08:53.02,0:08:55.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hiram College. For years I've tried to
Dialogue: 0,0:08:55.92,0:08:59.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,encourage us to consider more universally
Dialogue: 0,0:08:59.72,0:09:02.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,designed approaches but also approaches
Dialogue: 0,0:09:02.45,0:09:06.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that do more when it comes to housing and
Dialogue: 0,0:09:07.02,0:09:09.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,extracurricular accommodations for
Dialogue: 0,0:09:09.68,0:09:12.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,students to who use mobility devices. For
Dialogue: 0,0:09:12.52,0:09:15.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,example, my daughter ended up having to be
Dialogue: 0,0:09:15.58,0:09:18.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,carried in her chair, to various club
Dialogue: 0,0:09:18.45,0:09:20.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,meetings while she was on the Hiram
Dialogue: 0,0:09:20.65,0:09:24.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,College campus. She was told that, in the
Dialogue: 0,0:09:24.55,0:09:28.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,winter, when the ice storms came, that
Dialogue: 0,0:09:28.14,0:09:33.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they couldn't transport her up the long
Dialogue: 0,0:09:33.67,0:09:35.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hill, while they were telling everyone
Dialogue: 0,0:09:35.29,0:09:37.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,else to walk like a penguin, and we had
Dialogue: 0,0:09:37.63,0:09:41.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,vans to do this. We had to file with the
Dialogue: 0,0:09:41.71,0:09:45.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ohio Disability Rights Commission and
Dialogue: 0,0:09:45.41,0:09:48.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,request that the school think about other
Dialogue: 0,0:09:48.46,0:09:50.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ways of accommodating her should there
Dialogue: 0,0:09:50.66,0:09:52.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,be a storm, an ice storm, and she can't
Dialogue: 0,0:09:52.63,0:09:54.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,get up to campus.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,