[Script Info] Title: [Events] Format: Layer, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text Dialogue: 0,0:00:17.99,0:00:20.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well its really great to be here. What we're Dialogue: 0,0:00:20.03,0:00:27.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,going to be looking at tonight is the question whether the Gospels are based on eye-witness testimony Dialogue: 0,0:00:27.25,0:00:31.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I want to be presenting some old and some new evidence Dialogue: 0,0:00:31.57,0:00:35.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that the Gospels are indeed based on eye-witness testimony Dialogue: 0,0:00:35.74,0:00:39.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I want to begin Dialogue: 0,0:00:39.39,0:00:42.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with a fellow Brit: CS Lewis, the author of the Chrinicles of Narnia Dialogue: 0,0:00:42.80,0:00:45.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Who made and argument about the person of Jesus. Dialogue: 0,0:00:45.84,0:00:51.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he said that when we look at the sort of claims Jesus makes Dialogue: 0,0:00:51.83,0:00:56.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about who he is, we either have to say that he is the Lord, Dialogue: 0,0:00:56.91,0:01:00.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that he is Liar or that he is a lunetic. Dialogue: 0,0:01:00.02,0:01:08.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because his words can't just be written of as the words of a very Dialogue: 0,0:01:08.75,0:01:14.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,great person. Because a very great person doesn't make such claims. Dialogue: 0,0:01:14.60,0:01:16.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,doesn't attribute so much to himself. But what Dialogue: 0,0:01:16.70,0:01:21.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we found is that in recent years, people have added to those three possibilities Dialogue: 0,0:01:21.89,0:01:24.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,another one: that Jesus is in fact Legend Dialogue: 0,0:01:24.33,0:01:27.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we want to ask the question whether the Gospels are in fact reliable. Dialogue: 0,0:01:27.71,0:01:29.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I want to go to a sceptic Dialogue: 0,0:01:29.08,0:01:31.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,source: Bart Erhmann, one of the most famous, prominante Dialogue: 0,0:01:31.28,0:01:34.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sceptics within the US at the moment Dialogue: 0,0:01:34.66,0:01:35.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,very accomplished biblical scolar, Dialogue: 0,0:01:35.73,0:01:39.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,says this about the Gospels: Dialogue: 0,0:01:39.24,0:01:43.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What do you suppose happend to the stories about Jesus over the years Dialogue: 0,0:01:43.66,0:01:48.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as the were told and retold, not as disinteresdd news Dialogue: 0,0:01:48.24,0:01:52.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,stories reported by eyewitnesses but as propaganda Dialogue: 0,0:01:52.41,0:01:57.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,meant to convert people to faith, Dialogue: 0,0:01:57.00,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,told by people who had themselves heard them fifth or sixth- or nineteenth-hand? Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Did you or you rkids ever play the tlephone game at a party? Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,well the telephone game Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in britain, we call: Chinese wispers Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you're probably not allowed to call it that over here Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but thats what we call it over there and no one minds! Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now you know the way the telephone game works. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Its a game specially set up to corrupt the message Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so you know that you can laugh. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So there are various rules, for instance you have to Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,wisper, that ensures that the message gets curropted Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Your only allowed to say it once, so that ensures that the message gets corrupted Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You're only allowed to hear it from one person… Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why should I use that as an analogy for how Christiany spread early one? Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I prefer the analogy of Karate. Now have Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you ever heard that Karate must be becoming corrupted because Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's being taught from one person to another? Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No! Because you know that Karate is full of discipline Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and when people teach things, they teach it carefully Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there are checks and balances to make sure things get passed on Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think that is a far better analogy. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But we're going to come back to this later, whether Christianity Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,could have begun through something like the Telephone game. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But the first thing we're going to do is look at Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where the Gospels were written. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now the Gospels, according to earliest Christ tradition there are about Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where they were written say generally that they weren't written in the land of origin. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Which is Israel, Palestin. I'm not making a political Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,point when I'm using either of those words. OK? I'm just talking Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about a location, ok?