Thank you everyone for being here at our demo of our speaker training workshop or
diverse speaker training workshop, depending on if you're running it for
general or for everyone. I will be going through some, you know, there'll be some
some parts in it that are decisions to make, depending on what group you're
running it for, or some other things to customize for yourselves. I'll be running
it today for as if we're running it for underrepresented folks. And some of the
things I haven't quite filled in on the slides that you will be filling in on
yours. And that's something that I will have in the facilitator module notes. So
we are going to get started. First, I'm going to say a few words about myself, the
facilitator. So my name is Jill Binder. I'm the lead of the diverse speaker
training group in the community team in WordPress, which is the training that
we're making this for now. I also am bringing this workout to other technology
conferences and companies and bringing this as part of my business diversity uh
Diverse in Tech. And also I live and currently live in Vernon and I go back to
Vancouver BC a lot. So that is just a few words about myself. The agenda that we're
going through today is introductions and icebreaker, finding a topic, writing a
pitch, creating your talk and becoming a better speaker and creating great slides.
So we're going to go through introductions and icebreaker, why we're holding this
workshop for for underrepresented groups today, what we're looking for, dispelling
the myths of speakers and why do you want to speak. So the first thing that we're
going to do is go through a little icebreaker exercise so that we all get
comfortable with our with each each other in the room. Going around the circle,
we'll, I'll give you each a minute to say your name and what pronouns you'd like us
to use for you today, if you're comfortable sharing them, for example,
she/her, they/them, your WordPress experience, what is your speaking
experience, if any, and what you want out of the workshop today. I know that you can
always opt out of this or any of the other exercises in a workshop. At your turn,
just say pass. So I'm going to give an example. My name is Jill Binder. My
pronouns are she her. My WordPress his experience is I've been using it since
2011. And up until earlier this year in 2019, I was WordPress web developer. And
I've been working in the community for many years. And now I'm working community
team as part of my actual work. My speaking experience, I have been doing
public speaking for a really long time. I used to be a life coach and I would do a
lot of public speaking then I was also performance poet. And now for a number of
years, I've been doing many workshops within WordPress. And now I deliver these
workshops. And what I want out of the workshop today as the facilitator is to
hold a really great experience for all of you. So what I'm going to do is the order
that I see you on my screen, I'll call your name. And if you'd like to give a
precise, great and if not just say pass, and I'm also going to open up a one minute
timer for us.
So the order that you're on my screen are a Aurooba, Angela, Miriam, Chandrika and
Bhargav. So Aurooba, can you unmute yourself and I'll restart the timer once
you start. Okay, can you see the timer on my screen? Yep. Perfect.
Okay. Hi, everyone. My name is Aurooba. My pronouns, is pronouns are she and her.
I've been using WordPress since 2008. And I've been a web developer for about six
years. I have some speaking experience. I have spoken four or five times. And I
would love to come out of this workshop with a couple more topics that I could
speak on.
Thank you. Angela.
I, my name is Angela and my pronouns are she her hers. My WordPress experience -
I've been using WordPress since about 2011. And I contribute to the community
team as a community deputy
speaking experience, not too much. I've spoken just a couple of times. So what I'm
looking for out of the workshop today is to
get a couple more topics,
feel more confident in
when I'm doing talks.
Great. Thank you very much. Miriam.
So hi, my name is Miriam, my pronouns are she and her. I've been using WordPress
since about 2008 and I've been primarily developing with WordPress since 2012. I
have about probably about three years speaking experience now a couple wordcamps
a year. And I just hope to again, get more topics and especially about creating
better slides because that is definitely one of my weak points.
Great, thanks very much. And next we have Chandrika.
Hi, I'm Chandrika. My pronouns are she and her. I've been using WordPress since about
2011. I am a WordPress developer, I build custom WordPress themes and plugins. I've
spoken a few times, few times in meetups and once in a WordCamp. So what I want out
of the workshop today is more confidence in speaking, a few more topics and like
Miriam said, tips on creating good slides.
Great, thanks very much. And lastly, we have Bhargav.
I am Hi, I'm Bhargav Mehta. My pronouns are he and him. Right. I have been working
in WordPress since 2014. So I guess, I am the youngest in the group. And my speaking
experiences, I have spoken a couple of times in the meetup. I have been
organizing meetups in our city. And one time WordCamp speaker. From the workshop,
I am trying to understand how we can improve the speaking skills and getting
the community ready for other meetups.
Thanks very much. You're all in the right place today for what you're looking for.
Okay, so now we're gonna chat about why we're holding this workshop for
underrepresented groups today. So there's a few reasons why you might want to.
There's a few reasons that we want to hold this workshop for underrepresented groups
today. First of all, oh, okay, I will add that slide back in. I just put number one
is a disproportionately large number of speakers at WordPress meetups and
wordcamps, and tech events in general, look alike and come from the same
background. That means that the speakers do not represent everyone sitting in the
audience. Underrepresented groups they may therefore feel like they don't belong
there. But there are many with a wide range of knowledge to share and everyone
can feel included. WordPress is amazing in that it is open source. So all kinds of
people use it. And we want a more fair representation of users and the people
that are speaking. One of the ways in which WordPress is being shaped by is by
the people who speak about it publicly. Many folks from underrepresented groups by
nature of having had different life experiences would approach problems
differently and just tell the developers point of view is different from a user's
point of view, so are our viewpoints. Folks from underrepresented groups have
experiences that aren't necessarily being shared right now. By bringing in more
diversity to the people at the podium, there's a better chance of bringing in
folks who are straddling different roles, and thus creating unique things with
unique perspectives. Power users who are using it in interesting ways, front end
developers and business people who use plugins to make specific kinds of sites,
typographers who use WordPress to do wild things with typography, and people to talk
about running a business in WordPress, how developers can communicate with designers,
different things you can do with WordPress, etc, etc. And lastly, when
people see themselves represented on stage that gives more people confidence and
helps them feel like they belong there. They feel less under represented. So what
we're looking for today this is a section that if there is something specific that
our group was looking for, we would put this in but I have nothing specific for
us. So that would be something for you to fill your own info there. Next, we're
going to talk about one of my favorite parts of this workshop called dispelling
the myths. So everyone has their own reasons for not speaking in public,
especially at tech events. But most of these reasons are based on myths that we
can dispel, or concerns that we can address. Myth one, I'm not an expert. And
that's okay. You don't have to be an expert. Everyone has a different idea of
what expert means. No one knows everything, and everyone has something to
learn. You just need to know a little more about your topic than your audience knows.
And you can find a topic where you have knowledge that your audience does not.
There are things that you do with WordPress all the time that other people
don't, that makes you an expert in your eyes. Even if your audience has knowledge
about the same topic, they actually will not frame the knowledge in the same way
and they'll still have something to learn from you. It's possible that you feel you
only know a little bit about a topic. But it's so more than many people in the
audience are happy to learn what you know, you're probably more of an expert than you
think you are. A lot of us suffer from a little thing called imposter syndrome.
This is a psychological phenomenon, where you feel like you are an imposter. And you
don't really have the knowledge or skills to be here. But you've somehow managed to
fool everyone and soon they'll find out. And imposter syndrome is really common.
You're not alone. A lot of us have imposter syndrome because we don't see
people presented like us as experts on the stage. Many people who are not part of the
overrepresented majority set a much higher bar for expert knowledge.
Many communities have surveyed their members to ask what kind of information
they want to learn at meetups and wordcamps. And most people request
beginner topics. Remember that there are people out there who know nothing about
any of this stuff. And they want to know more. If you've used WordPress before you
have knowledge that other people want you to share. One area where you're always an
expert is your own experience. Case studies make great talks, talk about how
you did something, how you learned something, how you overcame an obstacle
and the process that you went through to create something or to solve a problem.
These kinds of talks are great because they're unique. It's not just the same
information that anyone can find in an online tutorial. These topics help
everyone overcome the I'm not an expert problem. You're just a normal person
sharing a normal experience. And that's valuable. So people will come to value
their own experience and expertise. Even if you're giving a talk that the audience
already knows about all about already, they have a different perspective, and
they're likely to learn something new. So, you might not feel like an expert, but you
are if you care about your topic that will shine through. And that's what is
important. Okay, number two, people will ask questions that I can't answer, and
I'll look like a fool. Yes, people may very well ask questions that you can't
answer. But that's okay. Your audience understands that not everyone knows
everything. And it can be hard to think on your feet and the audience is sympathetic.
If you don't know the answer, there are several things that you can do. You can
ask if anyone on the audience has an answer, and you can tell them that you'll
look up the answer and get back to them. Tell them that you post the answer on your
blog, they'll get more visitors to your website. And sometimes people ask
questions that are off topic, feel free to tell them that the question is off topic,
and we'll be happy to discuss it with them later. Also, remember, it's okay to say, I
don't know. People will think more highly of you if you admit that you don't know if
you try to make up an answer. And we're going to be going into all of these in
much more detail in the tricky questions section towards the end. Myth number
three: I'm too nervous to speak. Your audience gets that too. After all, most of
them didn't have the bravery to speak. First of all, practice, practice,
practice. The more you practice in front of pets, family, friends, the mere small
audiences, the less nervous you'll be. But if you're still nervous, that's okay.
Everyone gets nervous in front of audiences. And that's just part of being
human. Keep in mind that the audience is on your side, they want to see you
succeed. In fact, it's okay to admit that you're nervous people be sympathetic. I am
really really, really nervous right now too. But I'm up here speaking in front of
you and I haven't died yet. I'm making a little joke at the beginning about being
nervous like I just did can help dispel the nervous energy in the room. If you're
really nervous, you might not want to start speaking at an event where you'll be
having a big audience and start at a smaller meetup or even just start in front
of the mirror, pets friends and family etc. We will talk more about this in the
better speaker section later. Myth number four: I have failed if everyone in the
audience is not totally engaged. Sometimes when you're speaking, you'll look outside
out to the audience, and it will look like everyone is bored. And that's okay. First
of all, most of them probably aren't as bored as they look, audiences generally
sit with neutral faces. So if they aren't smiling and nodding and cheering, that
doesn't mean that they're not engaged. If they're using their phone, tablet, laptop
or another device, it doesn't mean that they're ignoring you. In fact, it might
just mean that they're writing down your every word, or they might be live tweeting
your talk. And no matter how good a speaker you are, you will not connect with
everyone in the audience. And that's okay, too. No speaker can connect with everyone.
Expect that. Don't take it personally, and be happy with the people who do connect
with you. And Myth number five: a talk followed by q&a is the only format I can
use to share my knowledge. No. There are plenty of other ways to share your
expertise at WordPress events, you could lead a group discussion, lead a workshop
or put together a panel. Some events offer the opportunity for lightning talks, which
are usually about 10 minutes. And this is a great format if you're nervous because
it's okay to talk fast, and it's over quickly. Okay, so let's have a little bit
of a discussion. I have for those of you who haven't spoken. We know what do you
think? What are things that you're worried about? Why haven't you talked at a meetup
or wordcamp? Or who've only talked once? Why did you not do it again? So I for
this, I'll have people put up your hand in the video if you have something to
contribute for this. Chandrika and then Angela?
I am I'm really nervous to stand in front of an audience and speak. So that's my
biggest problem.
Yeah. Okay. So you're you're just really nervous about it. Got it. Great. Thank
you, Angela. Seeing here,
I've done it before. And it's scary every single time. And I like to overcome that.
The nerves
that you cut out for a second. So you so we I heard you say that, you know, you're
nervous every single time and you'd like to overcome that? Yes. Great. And that is
something that we'll have a whole section in the better speaker section on tips for
overcoming nerves. Does anybody have an answer that we haven't said yet, but you'd
like to contribute?
Miriam.
Well, I guess about why haven't I spoken is actually I haven't spoken on technical
topics, despite being a web developer, is the fact that I'm afraid to have somebody
more experienced just come out and say that I'm absolutely
wrong.
Right. That is a valid fear. And we're actually going to address that later as
well. Great. Okay. Thank you very much.
Bhargav had something to say too.
Oh, sure. Okay, Bhargav will be our last one for today. Thanks. Thanks Aurooba.
So, in, in our community, they say that we don't know English, we cannot communicate
in English. So that's why we don't want to speak. They don't even speak in local
language because of the fear of not speaking in English.
Why? Okay, so there's, there's a language concern that a lot in your country. Okay.
Yeah, that's important as well. Thanks for sharing that.
Okay.
So let's, that was a lot of the reasons that people don't want to speak. But what
about reasons that you do want to speak? And so this is actually going to be
another discussion question for you. You know, what are reasons that you do want to
be speaking in? Just a way so I can see hands again. Miriam.
I want to give back because I have been given so much I'm a big proponent of
giving back to the community. So
Oh, that's wonderful. Thank you, Aurooba and then Chandrika.
I want to make sure that I'm essentially I don't see a lot of women speaking and I
want to help make change that and I'm a woman. I speak.
Right. So by example you want to be showing women want to be a woman who's
speaking and that's right example for others wonderful things Chandrika.
One reason I do want to speak is I want to be able to teach new people who are like
beginners in WordPress. There are a lot of questions and you know, speaking about how
to get started is a way of me giving trying to get teach someone.
Great. Yeah, absolutely. I love that. So it's something that you're actually
wanting to do for your career be able to do more speaking than that. Okay, great.
Any others before we move on? Angela, and then they'll be the last one for today.
I would love to I agree with a lot of the reasons that were just shared. I also see
Yeah, well, that's wonderful. Especially you have a big role building community in
WordPress. And so it would be useful to be starting some discussions around that, or
there might be other things outside of that as well, that would be useful. All
right, thank you. We have a list of examples of why people might want to be
speaking. So you said some of these, and then you added in some others as well. So
here's some reasons that people have, that we have for speaking, be seen as an
authority in your field, share your knowledge with others, build your
confidence, give back to the community, meet people, be part of the community,
travel, learn at conferences, speaking teaches you more. It's fun, it's
rewarding, it can have a feeling of accomplishment, and it can help build your
career, and for some folks, they might want to be a role model for folks who are
from the same underrepresented group as them. So it could be a role model for
diversity. Okay, module number two: finding a topic. So in this module, we're
going to look at talk formats, a big brain dump exercise, narrowing your topic
selection, refining your chosen topic and you'll have an optional chance to present
your topic. So now that we've talked about why we're holding this workshop, for for
underrepresented folks or underrepresented groups, myths about what it takes to be a
speaker, and why you want to speak, let's start talking about the actual talks. A
lot of talks in tech are big, how to bring them sessions, how to make a plugin might
be somebody walking through how to make it, maybe even live coding, and at the
end, there are questions. Wordcamp Central has found that this isn't necessarily a
good way to impart information. People often walk away feeling overwhelmed, and
not remembering anything that they learned. There are other talk formats that
promote story based learning. Talking about how you learn something, for
example, means other people can also learn how to learn as well different talk
formats involving more people can become more engaging. So here are some of the
various formats. There's how to the standard way that tech talks happen.
it as a way to start some discussions. And I like the idea of that.
Discussion, you're the facilitator on a topic, and the audience discusses it
together. A panel, multiple people insert questions on the same topic, story based
this could be how you learned something, the mistakes you made, or any other
narrative format. The story of how you created one thing in particular, and
workshop to have a hands on learning experience for people bring their laptop
and create a thing as you go. A Talk can also be more than one person, talks with
two or three people can be really engaging. Okay, we are going to go into
our first written exercise now. So first, I'm going to help you answer the question.
I don't know what to talk about, or I don't know enough about anything to give a
talk, or I'm not an expert in anything, or if you've given talks and you're just
stuck for what your next talk is, we'll be answering that as well. We're going to do
a brainstorming exercise. Brainstorm as many topics as you can in this exercise.
We're not looking for perfect or even good ideas. The idea is just to get them out
good, bad or ugly, and see if we can get as many as 30 or 40 or 40 ideas. So really
anything that comes to mind. You can write, draw, do mind maps, list, any
format that you like. And while you're summoning the idea gods or getting
writer's block, or anything in between, I'll be prompting you with questions to
generate more topics. And remember, it's always great to talk about what excites
you, not what you think you should talk about. And if you also, if you're new to
WordPress, and you don't have answers to these yet, that's okay. You can do the
prompts to imagine what your answers might be in, say a year from now.
Okay. So get out something to write with. If you haven't already. I'll give you a
moment to do that. And I'll give you a moment to start writing any ideas that are
popping to mind already before we start the prompts in the moment I'll start with
the first prompt.
So the first one is what got you into WordPress? What keeps you in it? What do
you love about it? What do you want to learn next? The first time you do
something with a child theme or a plugin or something
Your biggest challenge in WordPress in the last year or two. The last thing that you
learned how did you learn it?
The biggest block that you've ever had with WordPress how did you overcome the
biggest block? What are you most passionate about when it comes to
WordPress what most excites you?
What sorts of things do you love sharing with others about WordPress? Questions
about WordPress they get asked about most by clients, friends and family
A list of what you want to learn. Not sure if I asked this one already favorite
plugins.
Cool thing you've created. Favorite resources. Cool tricks you use all the
time. What could you talk about without slides? And finally, what prompts did we
not ask which you wish we did?
And I'll give you a couple minutes to keep writing on these or any others or anything
else that comes to mind. Last 20 seconds. All right. Out of curiosity, would anybody
like to share how many topics they wrote down?
Miriam.
I've got about 13.
Nice, great.
Chandrika
I think I got about 20 or 25.
Nice. Angela.
I'm at 15.
Great. Aurooba.
I've got about 17.
Thanks. Bhargav, would you like to share?
I have got about 12
Great. All right. Good work, everybody. So, now that you've got some good, bad and
ugly ideas, out of that list, we are going to do an exercise where you're picking the
two topics from the list that you think best fits the following questions. You
might also find that you come up with new answers that weren't in your list. And if
so, go ahead and write those down. And if for some of these, you don't come up with
any answers, that's okay. Just skip that one. First question. For a story based
talk. Pick two topics that you don't know a lot about, but have had some success
with. This could be a story based on. For example, I don't know much about making
plugins but let's say I've made one for custom post types.
Panel: for moderating a panel, pick two topics you may not know much about that
you would have good questions for.
For how to presentation, pick two topics that you are confident about and could
lead out to presentation.
For a case study, pick two topics that you've successfully worked on that you
feel you could do a case study well
For a workshop, pick two topics that you think you could teach to others in a hands
on manner. This could be for running a workshop.
And lastly, for any type, pick two subjects in the topic list that are your
favorite.
Okay, so now we're going to do an exercise to pick a topic. Right now is doing the
first part, picking the topic. So together, I'm going to give us each two
minutes to chat with each other about what the goal is pick the one that you're most
excited about anything you'd like to develop it further. And for anybody who
wants to discuss it with each other I'll give us two minutes each. So I'll give you
a moment to narrow down your list. See if one pops out. And then start getting
volunteers around the group for who would like to discuss it and I'll give, make
sure that there's time for everybody to have the chance to discuss with each other
Okay, Would anybody like to get help discussing with the group? What their
topic is? Miriam.
I'm always first. I was going back and forth between two topics. But I think one
that is more recent for me is one about transitioning from working in an office to
a remote workspace because I just went through that six months ago. And so
that's something that is very real free right now. Yeah. Nice.
That's a good one. I would go to that. Yeah,
I think there's in WordPress, it seems like it's a land where a lot of people
will start to want to do their own freelancing and working from home. So I
think a lot of people want to know about that.
Or even joining a company that is remote is really common in WordPress, right is
that's a good one Miriam.
Angela.
I had a similar one in which was distributed where
Tucker's
I don't know if I'm packing too much into there for one talk. But in thinking about
how
WordPress, the open source project is built, it's people around the world on
slack on blogs, building it together. So working across
time zones in different cultures is a topic you cut out more. And if it doesn't
work again, yeah, put into the chat.
It's a distributed work across time zones and cultures. Something I've been thinking
about lately.
That sounds like something that those who are running companies would probably be
very interested in. There's probably some other use cases for that as well. Any
anybody else have comments or thoughts on that?
That would probably be a good talk for like, either like a wordcamp, or there are
a lot of like larger companies and the reps or maybe even like a larger wordcamp.
Like, it could be even a really good lightning talk. Like we're getting us.
Yeah,
I think you'd have more a more specific niche wanting to hear that one. But
there's definitely places for that.
And I was wondering if it would be good for like individual contributors, because
they will get exposed to working with people around the world, like just through
slack. Right?
There might be a way to position it for that as well. So when we get to the next
parts, where we're refining it, you might find a way to kind of address for both for
a different talk for each depending on
you could really tailor that depending on the kind of audience you're focusing on.
Anyone else?
I
get the time again.
Aurooba.
Um, I often do technical talks, because that's something I enjoy learning and
enjoy teaching. So the one that I was kind of thinking about is how to extend default
Gutenberg blocks. Oh, that could be a good one. Because you know, Gutenberg is still
new. But sometimes all people really need is a couple more options, and then a
Gutenberg block that already exists.
Oh, yeah. I mean, Gutenberg is a hot topic right now. So anything, Gutenberg is
definitely something that is popular. And that sounds like a really good topic that
people might not realize that they don't have to code a whole new one. They can
actually use something that exists.
Mm hmm.
I would go to that talk.
Yeah, nice. There you go.
Excellent. Yeah, coming over. Talk at your meetup. Yeah,
I like that talk as well.
Yeah, great.
And if you did as a case study, I
think it would be really cool.
If like, you showed how you did it yourself. A real use cases? Yeah.
Great, thank you Chandrika.
I had a similar topic. Using advanced custom fields and Gutenberg together to
create blocks.
Nice. Yes. It's even more specific. I like that. Yeah. Yeah, I think I think again,
Gutenberg is currently in 2019. Very, very big topic. And
I think really new.
Yep. Yeah. And I know, I mean, back when I was doing WordPress development, which
happened to be up until Gutenberg became a thing. I was using advanced custom fields
a lot. So I imagined that is a really important time.
One, one more thing that is new right now it's Gatsby JS. So I had a topic in mind
how to get started with Gatsby JS and WordPress.
Great. Okay, that's cool. Like, cool. Yeah,
that's one. One more. Like what I am currently transitioning through is my
journey as a developer to functional consultant and why choose that?
Ooh, interesting. Let's help you choose two people have thoughts between these two
topics?
I like the second one. I mean, I like both. But listening to those personal
stories is always a nice thing. Agreed.
Yeah, I agree as well. And when you said it, it seems like you had some passion
behind it as well. So I really like seeing that.
I can also see a lot of people wanting to make a similar move or be thinking about
it. I've seen it happen a lot. So it could be a definitely useful topic. Story.
Nice. Great. So it sounds like everyone loves the second one. Have we covered
everybody?
Aurooba did you go? Yes. Yes. Great. Okay. So now we're going to do is an exercise
where we're going to further refine the topic. So first of all, wherever you're at
now, it's okay. If you're, if those out there in the world are still not sure what
the topic all of us were, it sounds like we're pretty sure. But if there were
people in the group who were not sure, it's okay, just pick one to say to the
rest of the group that you'll use for the exercises for the rest of the workshop.
You can always use your topic today just as a practice and do a different topic
later. So don't worry about picking the perfect one. But since we all know our
topics I'm going to move on. So to further refine your topic, we are going to apply
who what why, how, when and where, for example, who is this plugin for? What does
this plugin do? Why was it created? How does it work? And when would you use it?
Where would you use it? So I'll give you about five minutes to do this writing
exercise.
We've got about 15 seconds left. Okay however far along you're you're out with
that is fine just use what you have from this list. Can you refine your topic? Is
there something more specific on which you could give the talk I'll give you two
minutes to polish your topic. We've got about 20 seconds left.
Okay, so now we're going to go around the circle, going around the circle, and give
everyone the opportunity to say what topic they chose. And if you'd rather not when
it's your turn, say pass. And then also we can give you feedback if you like. So what
I'm going to do is go around the circle, I'm going to, say the order that we're
going to speak in and then if you want to say pass, you can. Aurooba, Angela, Miriam
Chandrika and Bhargav.
Aurooba.
Yeah, I just I picked what I had chosen before, which is how to extend default
Gutenberg blocks. I chose not to go with the case study style, because I want it to
be able to show multiple options for different types of blocks that I've seen a
lot of people wanting to extend, because they want to create something just like a
default Gutenberg block, but then they need a couple more options. Some is why go
through all of those common scenarios.
Great. Thanks, Angela.
So I also
might same topic, but based on the helpful feedback, I've turned it a little bit to
be a little more focused
on.
I kept thinking,
building WordPress across time and space, but more in the sense of like, tips for
working globally, to build WordPress together. Hmm. Right.
It's a cool title.
It will be working more on titles later as well. So we'll define that further. Great.
Miriam
Like the others, I've kept the same topic. And I've kind of refined it down to tips
and tricks, because a lot of people have worked in an office for most of their
career. And for some reason or another, they choose to, or they have to go remote.
And it can be a very scary thing for some people. So I was just going to share the
tips and tricks that I've learned as I've made that transition. So story based,
I guess,
nice
Chandrika.
I've kept the same topic. Still trying to work on the title. But I think focusing
more on building custom sites with ACF blocks, because it's much easier to
customize your client sites with custom ACF blocks.
Nice. Yeah. I still need time. Yeah, we will work on titles later. But I actually
like that title, as is. So you'll see later if you need to change it at all, if
you have any other ideas are not great. Bhargav
based on the feedback, I have kept my personal story like storyline and the
topic and it says that my journey as a developer to a function functional
consultant. Why choose it?
Great. Yeah, that sounds good. Wonderful. Well, thank you very much, everybody.