1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,000 Thank you everyone for being here at our demo of our speaker training workshop or 2 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:08,880 diverse speaker training workshop, depending on if you're running it for 3 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:12,360 general or for everyone. I will be going through some, you know, there'll be some 4 00:00:15,990 --> 00:00:18,990 some parts in it that are decisions to make, depending on what group you're 5 00:00:20,190 --> 00:00:23,190 running it for, or some other things to customize for yourselves. I'll be running 6 00:00:25,350 --> 00:00:28,350 it today for as if we're running it for underrepresented folks. And some of the 7 00:00:32,100 --> 00:00:35,100 things I haven't quite filled in on the slides that you will be filling in on 8 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:39,000 yours. And that's something that I will have in the facilitator module notes. So 9 00:00:44,370 --> 00:00:47,370 we are going to get started. First, I'm going to say a few words about myself, the 10 00:00:49,110 --> 00:00:52,110 facilitator. So my name is Jill Binder. I'm the lead of the diverse speaker 11 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:57,120 training group in the community team in WordPress, which is the training that 12 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:00,600 we're making this for now. I also am bringing this workout to other technology 13 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:06,600 conferences and companies and bringing this as part of my business diversity uh 14 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:12,720 Diverse in Tech. And also I live and currently live in Vernon and I go back to 15 00:01:17,790 --> 00:01:20,790 Vancouver BC a lot. So that is just a few words about myself. The agenda that we're 16 00:01:24,510 --> 00:01:27,510 going through today is introductions and icebreaker, finding a topic, writing a 17 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:36,240 pitch, creating your talk and becoming a better speaker and creating great slides. 18 00:01:40,530 --> 00:01:43,530 So we're going to go through introductions and icebreaker, why we're holding this 19 00:01:44,190 --> 00:01:47,190 workshop for for underrepresented groups today, what we're looking for, dispelling 20 00:01:48,810 --> 00:01:51,810 the myths of speakers and why do you want to speak. So the first thing that we're 21 00:01:55,830 --> 00:01:58,830 going to do is go through a little icebreaker exercise so that we all get 22 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:02,040 comfortable with our with each each other in the room. Going around the circle, 23 00:02:03,930 --> 00:02:06,930 we'll, I'll give you each a minute to say your name and what pronouns you'd like us 24 00:02:09,930 --> 00:02:12,930 to use for you today, if you're comfortable sharing them, for example, 25 00:02:13,470 --> 00:02:16,470 she/her, they/them, your WordPress experience, what is your speaking 26 00:02:18,750 --> 00:02:21,750 experience, if any, and what you want out of the workshop today. I know that you can 27 00:02:24,030 --> 00:02:27,030 always opt out of this or any of the other exercises in a workshop. At your turn, 28 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:31,440 just say pass. So I'm going to give an example. My name is Jill Binder. My 29 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:37,080 pronouns are she her. My WordPress his experience is I've been using it since 30 00:02:39,330 --> 00:02:42,330 2011. And up until earlier this year in 2019, I was WordPress web developer. And 31 00:02:46,140 --> 00:02:49,140 I've been working in the community for many years. And now I'm working community 32 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:53,040 team as part of my actual work. My speaking experience, I have been doing 33 00:02:56,580 --> 00:02:59,580 public speaking for a really long time. I used to be a life coach and I would do a 34 00:03:01,020 --> 00:03:04,020 lot of public speaking then I was also performance poet. And now for a number of 35 00:03:05,100 --> 00:03:08,100 years, I've been doing many workshops within WordPress. And now I deliver these 36 00:03:09,570 --> 00:03:12,570 workshops. And what I want out of the workshop today as the facilitator is to 37 00:03:14,220 --> 00:03:17,220 hold a really great experience for all of you. So what I'm going to do is the order 38 00:03:20,490 --> 00:03:23,490 that I see you on my screen, I'll call your name. And if you'd like to give a 39 00:03:25,530 --> 00:03:28,530 precise, great and if not just say pass, and I'm also going to open up a one minute 40 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:35,280 timer for us. 41 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:42,600 So the order that you're on my screen are a Aurooba, Angela, Miriam, Chandrika and 42 00:03:43,590 --> 00:03:46,590 Bhargav. So Aurooba, can you unmute yourself and I'll restart the timer once 43 00:03:49,890 --> 00:03:52,890 you start. Okay, can you see the timer on my screen? Yep. Perfect. 44 00:03:54,750 --> 00:03:57,750 Okay. Hi, everyone. My name is Aurooba. My pronouns, is pronouns are she and her. 45 00:04:01,530 --> 00:04:04,530 I've been using WordPress since 2008. And I've been a web developer for about six 46 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:11,280 years. I have some speaking experience. I have spoken four or five times. And I 47 00:04:17,370 --> 00:04:20,370 would love to come out of this workshop with a couple more topics that I could 48 00:04:21,570 --> 00:04:24,570 speak on. 49 00:04:24,090 --> 00:04:27,090 Thank you. Angela. 50 00:04:29,700 --> 00:04:32,700 I, my name is Angela and my pronouns are she her hers. My WordPress experience - 51 00:04:36,450 --> 00:04:39,450 I've been using WordPress since about 2011. And I contribute to the community 52 00:04:43,380 --> 00:04:46,380 team as a community deputy 53 00:04:46,980 --> 00:04:49,980 speaking experience, not too much. I've spoken just a couple of times. So what I'm 54 00:04:53,850 --> 00:04:56,850 looking for out of the workshop today is to 55 00:04:57,650 --> 00:05:00,650 get a couple more topics, 56 00:04:59,540 --> 00:05:02,540 feel more confident in 57 00:05:01,460 --> 00:05:04,460 when I'm doing talks. 58 00:05:04,730 --> 00:05:07,730 Great. Thank you very much. Miriam. 59 00:05:08,820 --> 00:05:11,820 So hi, my name is Miriam, my pronouns are she and her. I've been using WordPress 60 00:05:15,540 --> 00:05:18,540 since about 2008 and I've been primarily developing with WordPress since 2012. I 61 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:27,000 have about probably about three years speaking experience now a couple wordcamps 62 00:05:28,980 --> 00:05:31,980 a year. And I just hope to again, get more topics and especially about creating 63 00:05:38,460 --> 00:05:41,460 better slides because that is definitely one of my weak points. 64 00:05:43,830 --> 00:05:46,830 Great, thanks very much. And next we have Chandrika. 65 00:05:52,030 --> 00:05:55,030 Hi, I'm Chandrika. My pronouns are she and her. I've been using WordPress since about 66 00:05:59,770 --> 00:06:02,770 2011. I am a WordPress developer, I build custom WordPress themes and plugins. I've 67 00:06:08,260 --> 00:06:11,260 spoken a few times, few times in meetups and once in a WordCamp. So what I want out 68 00:06:15,580 --> 00:06:18,580 of the workshop today is more confidence in speaking, a few more topics and like 69 00:06:21,070 --> 00:06:24,070 Miriam said, tips on creating good slides. 70 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:30,640 Great, thanks very much. And lastly, we have Bhargav. 71 00:06:32,260 --> 00:06:35,260 I am Hi, I'm Bhargav Mehta. My pronouns are he and him. Right. I have been working 72 00:06:42,670 --> 00:06:45,670 in WordPress since 2014. So I guess, I am the youngest in the group. And my speaking 73 00:06:53,260 --> 00:06:56,260 experiences, I have spoken a couple of times in the meetup. I have been 74 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:01,360 organizing meetups in our city. And one time WordCamp speaker. From the workshop, 75 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:10,000 I am trying to understand how we can improve the speaking skills and getting 76 00:07:15,670 --> 00:07:18,670 the community ready for other meetups. 77 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:24,280 Thanks very much. You're all in the right place today for what you're looking for. 78 00:07:29,950 --> 00:07:32,950 Okay, so now we're gonna chat about why we're holding this workshop for 79 00:07:33,610 --> 00:07:36,610 underrepresented groups today. So there's a few reasons why you might want to. 80 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:45,880 There's a few reasons that we want to hold this workshop for underrepresented groups 81 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:49,000 today. First of all, oh, okay, I will add that slide back in. I just put number one 82 00:07:57,460 --> 00:08:00,460 is a disproportionately large number of speakers at WordPress meetups and 83 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:04,240 wordcamps, and tech events in general, look alike and come from the same 84 00:08:05,260 --> 00:08:08,260 background. That means that the speakers do not represent everyone sitting in the 85 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:12,040 audience. Underrepresented groups they may therefore feel like they don't belong 86 00:08:13,870 --> 00:08:16,870 there. But there are many with a wide range of knowledge to share and everyone 87 00:08:17,830 --> 00:08:20,830 can feel included. WordPress is amazing in that it is open source. So all kinds of 88 00:08:23,710 --> 00:08:26,710 people use it. And we want a more fair representation of users and the people 89 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:31,000 that are speaking. One of the ways in which WordPress is being shaped by is by 90 00:08:33,610 --> 00:08:36,610 the people who speak about it publicly. Many folks from underrepresented groups by 91 00:08:37,780 --> 00:08:40,780 nature of having had different life experiences would approach problems 92 00:08:41,470 --> 00:08:44,470 differently and just tell the developers point of view is different from a user's 93 00:08:45,310 --> 00:08:48,310 point of view, so are our viewpoints. Folks from underrepresented groups have 94 00:08:49,810 --> 00:08:52,810 experiences that aren't necessarily being shared right now. By bringing in more 95 00:08:54,850 --> 00:08:57,850 diversity to the people at the podium, there's a better chance of bringing in 96 00:08:58,510 --> 00:09:01,510 folks who are straddling different roles, and thus creating unique things with 97 00:09:02,410 --> 00:09:05,410 unique perspectives. Power users who are using it in interesting ways, front end 98 00:09:07,570 --> 00:09:10,570 developers and business people who use plugins to make specific kinds of sites, 99 00:09:11,830 --> 00:09:14,830 typographers who use WordPress to do wild things with typography, and people to talk 100 00:09:18,220 --> 00:09:21,220 about running a business in WordPress, how developers can communicate with designers, 101 00:09:22,390 --> 00:09:25,390 different things you can do with WordPress, etc, etc. And lastly, when 102 00:09:27,610 --> 00:09:30,610 people see themselves represented on stage that gives more people confidence and 103 00:09:32,410 --> 00:09:35,410 helps them feel like they belong there. They feel less under represented. So what 104 00:09:39,010 --> 00:09:42,010 we're looking for today this is a section that if there is something specific that 105 00:09:46,420 --> 00:09:49,420 our group was looking for, we would put this in but I have nothing specific for 106 00:09:50,860 --> 00:09:53,860 us. So that would be something for you to fill your own info there. Next, we're 107 00:09:57,340 --> 00:10:00,340 going to talk about one of my favorite parts of this workshop called dispelling 108 00:10:02,950 --> 00:10:05,950 the myths. So everyone has their own reasons for not speaking in public, 109 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:10,840 especially at tech events. But most of these reasons are based on myths that we 110 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:15,040 can dispel, or concerns that we can address. Myth one, I'm not an expert. And 111 00:10:20,380 --> 00:10:23,380 that's okay. You don't have to be an expert. Everyone has a different idea of 112 00:10:25,570 --> 00:10:28,570 what expert means. No one knows everything, and everyone has something to 113 00:10:29,980 --> 00:10:32,980 learn. You just need to know a little more about your topic than your audience knows. 114 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:37,360 And you can find a topic where you have knowledge that your audience does not. 115 00:10:38,950 --> 00:10:41,950 There are things that you do with WordPress all the time that other people 116 00:10:41,860 --> 00:10:44,860 don't, that makes you an expert in your eyes. Even if your audience has knowledge 117 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:49,000 about the same topic, they actually will not frame the knowledge in the same way 118 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:52,480 and they'll still have something to learn from you. It's possible that you feel you 119 00:10:53,740 --> 00:10:56,740 only know a little bit about a topic. But it's so more than many people in the 120 00:10:57,340 --> 00:11:00,340 audience are happy to learn what you know, you're probably more of an expert than you 121 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:04,840 think you are. A lot of us suffer from a little thing called imposter syndrome. 122 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:11,440 This is a psychological phenomenon, where you feel like you are an imposter. And you 123 00:11:13,150 --> 00:11:16,150 don't really have the knowledge or skills to be here. But you've somehow managed to 124 00:11:17,230 --> 00:11:20,230 fool everyone and soon they'll find out. And imposter syndrome is really common. 125 00:11:21,670 --> 00:11:24,670 You're not alone. A lot of us have imposter syndrome because we don't see 126 00:11:26,620 --> 00:11:29,620 people presented like us as experts on the stage. Many people who are not part of the 127 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:38,200 overrepresented majority set a much higher bar for expert knowledge. 128 00:11:40,610 --> 00:11:43,610 Many communities have surveyed their members to ask what kind of information 129 00:11:43,730 --> 00:11:46,730 they want to learn at meetups and wordcamps. And most people request 130 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:50,120 beginner topics. Remember that there are people out there who know nothing about 131 00:11:51,170 --> 00:11:54,170 any of this stuff. And they want to know more. If you've used WordPress before you 132 00:11:55,670 --> 00:11:58,670 have knowledge that other people want you to share. One area where you're always an 133 00:12:00,680 --> 00:12:03,680 expert is your own experience. Case studies make great talks, talk about how 134 00:12:06,170 --> 00:12:09,170 you did something, how you learned something, how you overcame an obstacle 135 00:12:10,430 --> 00:12:13,430 and the process that you went through to create something or to solve a problem. 136 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:17,720 These kinds of talks are great because they're unique. It's not just the same 137 00:12:17,780 --> 00:12:20,780 information that anyone can find in an online tutorial. These topics help 138 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:25,400 everyone overcome the I'm not an expert problem. You're just a normal person 139 00:12:27,380 --> 00:12:30,380 sharing a normal experience. And that's valuable. So people will come to value 140 00:12:31,190 --> 00:12:34,190 their own experience and expertise. Even if you're giving a talk that the audience 141 00:12:36,110 --> 00:12:39,110 already knows about all about already, they have a different perspective, and 142 00:12:39,500 --> 00:12:42,500 they're likely to learn something new. So, you might not feel like an expert, but you 143 00:12:44,570 --> 00:12:47,570 are if you care about your topic that will shine through. And that's what is 144 00:12:48,230 --> 00:12:51,230 important. Okay, number two, people will ask questions that I can't answer, and 145 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:59,600 I'll look like a fool. Yes, people may very well ask questions that you can't 146 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:04,520 answer. But that's okay. Your audience understands that not everyone knows 147 00:13:05,510 --> 00:13:08,510 everything. And it can be hard to think on your feet and the audience is sympathetic. 148 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:13,400 If you don't know the answer, there are several things that you can do. You can 149 00:13:14,300 --> 00:13:17,300 ask if anyone on the audience has an answer, and you can tell them that you'll 150 00:13:18,350 --> 00:13:21,350 look up the answer and get back to them. Tell them that you post the answer on your 151 00:13:22,340 --> 00:13:25,340 blog, they'll get more visitors to your website. And sometimes people ask 152 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:29,840 questions that are off topic, feel free to tell them that the question is off topic, 153 00:13:31,130 --> 00:13:34,130 and we'll be happy to discuss it with them later. Also, remember, it's okay to say, I 154 00:13:36,530 --> 00:13:39,530 don't know. People will think more highly of you if you admit that you don't know if 155 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:44,120 you try to make up an answer. And we're going to be going into all of these in 156 00:13:45,110 --> 00:13:48,110 much more detail in the tricky questions section towards the end. Myth number 157 00:13:53,030 --> 00:13:56,030 three: I'm too nervous to speak. Your audience gets that too. After all, most of 158 00:13:58,850 --> 00:14:01,850 them didn't have the bravery to speak. First of all, practice, practice, 159 00:14:03,140 --> 00:14:06,140 practice. The more you practice in front of pets, family, friends, the mere small 160 00:14:08,420 --> 00:14:11,420 audiences, the less nervous you'll be. But if you're still nervous, that's okay. 161 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:16,760 Everyone gets nervous in front of audiences. And that's just part of being 162 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:19,880 human. Keep in mind that the audience is on your side, they want to see you 163 00:14:21,380 --> 00:14:24,380 succeed. In fact, it's okay to admit that you're nervous people be sympathetic. I am 164 00:14:26,810 --> 00:14:29,810 really really, really nervous right now too. But I'm up here speaking in front of 165 00:14:30,590 --> 00:14:33,590 you and I haven't died yet. I'm making a little joke at the beginning about being 166 00:14:35,210 --> 00:14:38,210 nervous like I just did can help dispel the nervous energy in the room. If you're 167 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:43,520 really nervous, you might not want to start speaking at an event where you'll be 168 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:47,360 having a big audience and start at a smaller meetup or even just start in front 169 00:14:48,350 --> 00:14:51,350 of the mirror, pets friends and family etc. We will talk more about this in the 170 00:14:52,940 --> 00:14:55,940 better speaker section later. Myth number four: I have failed if everyone in the 171 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:03,560 audience is not totally engaged. Sometimes when you're speaking, you'll look outside 172 00:15:06,410 --> 00:15:09,410 out to the audience, and it will look like everyone is bored. And that's okay. First 173 00:15:11,660 --> 00:15:14,660 of all, most of them probably aren't as bored as they look, audiences generally 174 00:15:16,010 --> 00:15:19,010 sit with neutral faces. So if they aren't smiling and nodding and cheering, that 175 00:15:20,540 --> 00:15:23,540 doesn't mean that they're not engaged. If they're using their phone, tablet, laptop 176 00:15:25,250 --> 00:15:28,250 or another device, it doesn't mean that they're ignoring you. In fact, it might 177 00:15:28,610 --> 00:15:31,610 just mean that they're writing down your every word, or they might be live tweeting 178 00:15:31,790 --> 00:15:34,790 your talk. And no matter how good a speaker you are, you will not connect with 179 00:15:35,990 --> 00:15:38,990 everyone in the audience. And that's okay, too. No speaker can connect with everyone. 180 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:44,120 Expect that. Don't take it personally, and be happy with the people who do connect 181 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:48,080 with you. And Myth number five: a talk followed by q&a is the only format I can 182 00:15:52,940 --> 00:15:55,940 use to share my knowledge. No. There are plenty of other ways to share your 183 00:15:57,140 --> 00:16:00,140 expertise at WordPress events, you could lead a group discussion, lead a workshop 184 00:16:01,490 --> 00:16:04,490 or put together a panel. Some events offer the opportunity for lightning talks, which 185 00:16:07,070 --> 00:16:10,070 are usually about 10 minutes. And this is a great format if you're nervous because 186 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:13,520 it's okay to talk fast, and it's over quickly. Okay, so let's have a little bit 187 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:20,960 of a discussion. I have for those of you who haven't spoken. We know what do you 188 00:16:24,650 --> 00:16:27,650 think? What are things that you're worried about? Why haven't you talked at a meetup 189 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:31,040 or wordcamp? Or who've only talked once? Why did you not do it again? So I for 190 00:16:33,470 --> 00:16:36,470 this, I'll have people put up your hand in the video if you have something to 191 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:43,640 contribute for this. Chandrika and then Angela? 192 00:16:50,910 --> 00:16:53,910 I am I'm really nervous to stand in front of an audience and speak. So that's my 193 00:16:56,730 --> 00:16:59,730 biggest problem. 194 00:16:59,580 --> 00:17:02,580 Yeah. Okay. So you're you're just really nervous about it. Got it. Great. Thank 195 00:17:04,620 --> 00:17:07,620 you, Angela. Seeing here, 196 00:17:10,380 --> 00:17:13,380 I've done it before. And it's scary every single time. And I like to overcome that. 197 00:17:18,330 --> 00:17:21,330 The nerves 198 00:17:18,330 --> 00:17:21,330 that you cut out for a second. So you so we I heard you say that, you know, you're 199 00:17:30,630 --> 00:17:33,630 nervous every single time and you'd like to overcome that? Yes. Great. And that is 200 00:17:35,940 --> 00:17:38,940 something that we'll have a whole section in the better speaker section on tips for 201 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:42,600 overcoming nerves. Does anybody have an answer that we haven't said yet, but you'd 202 00:17:44,580 --> 00:17:47,580 like to contribute? 203 00:17:46,890 --> 00:17:49,890 Miriam. 204 00:17:49,710 --> 00:17:52,710 Well, I guess about why haven't I spoken is actually I haven't spoken on technical 205 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:59,520 topics, despite being a web developer, is the fact that I'm afraid to have somebody 206 00:18:02,310 --> 00:18:05,310 more experienced just come out and say that I'm absolutely 207 00:18:05,910 --> 00:18:08,910 wrong. 208 00:18:07,500 --> 00:18:10,500 Right. That is a valid fear. And we're actually going to address that later as 209 00:18:13,380 --> 00:18:16,380 well. Great. Okay. Thank you very much. 210 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:20,440 Bhargav had something to say too. 211 00:18:19,390 --> 00:18:22,390 Oh, sure. Okay, Bhargav will be our last one for today. Thanks. Thanks Aurooba. 212 00:18:26,220 --> 00:18:29,220 So, in, in our community, they say that we don't know English, we cannot communicate 213 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:35,880 in English. So that's why we don't want to speak. They don't even speak in local 214 00:18:41,340 --> 00:18:44,340 language because of the fear of not speaking in English. 215 00:18:46,500 --> 00:18:49,500 Why? Okay, so there's, there's a language concern that a lot in your country. Okay. 216 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:55,320 Yeah, that's important as well. Thanks for sharing that. 217 00:18:57,630 --> 00:19:00,630 Okay. 218 00:19:02,110 --> 00:19:05,110 So let's, that was a lot of the reasons that people don't want to speak. But what 219 00:19:07,360 --> 00:19:10,360 about reasons that you do want to speak? And so this is actually going to be 220 00:19:14,830 --> 00:19:17,830 another discussion question for you. You know, what are reasons that you do want to 221 00:19:18,850 --> 00:19:21,850 be speaking in? Just a way so I can see hands again. Miriam. 222 00:19:32,250 --> 00:19:35,250 I want to give back because I have been given so much I'm a big proponent of 223 00:19:39,360 --> 00:19:42,360 giving back to the community. So 224 00:19:41,870 --> 00:19:44,870 Oh, that's wonderful. Thank you, Aurooba and then Chandrika. 225 00:19:46,730 --> 00:19:49,730 I want to make sure that I'm essentially I don't see a lot of women speaking and I 226 00:19:51,770 --> 00:19:54,770 want to help make change that and I'm a woman. I speak. 227 00:19:56,630 --> 00:19:59,630 Right. So by example you want to be showing women want to be a woman who's 228 00:20:02,060 --> 00:20:05,060 speaking and that's right example for others wonderful things Chandrika. 229 00:20:10,180 --> 00:20:13,180 One reason I do want to speak is I want to be able to teach new people who are like 230 00:20:15,580 --> 00:20:18,580 beginners in WordPress. There are a lot of questions and you know, speaking about how 231 00:20:21,820 --> 00:20:24,820 to get started is a way of me giving trying to get teach someone. 232 00:20:27,930 --> 00:20:30,930 Great. Yeah, absolutely. I love that. So it's something that you're actually 233 00:20:31,590 --> 00:20:34,590 wanting to do for your career be able to do more speaking than that. Okay, great. 234 00:20:36,810 --> 00:20:39,810 Any others before we move on? Angela, and then they'll be the last one for today. 235 00:20:44,970 --> 00:20:47,970 I would love to I agree with a lot of the reasons that were just shared. I also see 236 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:56,000 Yeah, well, that's wonderful. Especially you have a big role building community in 237 00:20:58,725 --> 00:21:01,725 WordPress. And so it would be useful to be starting some discussions around that, or 238 00:21:04,589 --> 00:21:07,589 there might be other things outside of that as well, that would be useful. All 239 00:21:10,039 --> 00:21:13,039 right, thank you. We have a list of examples of why people might want to be 240 00:21:15,283 --> 00:21:18,283 speaking. So you said some of these, and then you added in some others as well. So 241 00:21:21,008 --> 00:21:24,008 here's some reasons that people have, that we have for speaking, be seen as an 242 00:21:26,459 --> 00:21:29,459 authority in your field, share your knowledge with others, build your 243 00:21:31,288 --> 00:21:34,288 confidence, give back to the community, meet people, be part of the community, 244 00:21:36,738 --> 00:21:39,738 travel, learn at conferences, speaking teaches you more. It's fun, it's 245 00:21:41,705 --> 00:21:44,705 rewarding, it can have a feeling of accomplishment, and it can help build your 246 00:21:47,155 --> 00:21:50,155 career, and for some folks, they might want to be a role model for folks who are 247 00:21:52,743 --> 00:21:55,743 from the same underrepresented group as them. So it could be a role model for 248 00:21:58,124 --> 00:22:01,124 diversity. Okay, module number two: finding a topic. So in this module, we're 249 00:22:03,505 --> 00:22:06,505 going to look at talk formats, a big brain dump exercise, narrowing your topic 250 00:22:08,955 --> 00:22:11,955 selection, refining your chosen topic and you'll have an optional chance to present 251 00:22:14,750 --> 00:22:17,750 your topic. So now that we've talked about why we're holding this workshop, for for 252 00:22:20,545 --> 00:22:23,545 underrepresented folks or underrepresented groups, myths about what it takes to be a 253 00:22:26,409 --> 00:22:29,409 speaker, and why you want to speak, let's start talking about the actual talks. A 254 00:22:32,066 --> 00:22:35,066 lot of talks in tech are big, how to bring them sessions, how to make a plugin might 255 00:22:37,930 --> 00:22:40,930 be somebody walking through how to make it, maybe even live coding, and at the 256 00:22:43,380 --> 00:22:46,380 end, there are questions. Wordcamp Central has found that this isn't necessarily a 257 00:22:49,106 --> 00:22:52,106 good way to impart information. People often walk away feeling overwhelmed, and 258 00:22:54,625 --> 00:22:57,625 not remembering anything that they learned. There are other talk formats that 259 00:23:00,006 --> 00:23:03,006 promote story based learning. Talking about how you learn something, for 260 00:23:05,042 --> 00:23:08,042 example, means other people can also learn how to learn as well different talk 261 00:23:10,492 --> 00:23:13,492 formats involving more people can become more engaging. So here are some of the 262 00:23:16,011 --> 00:23:19,011 various formats. There's how to the standard way that tech talks happen. 263 00:23:20,790 --> 00:23:23,790 it as a way to start some discussions. And I like the idea of that. 264 00:23:21,047 --> 00:23:24,047 Discussion, you're the facilitator on a topic, and the audience discusses it 265 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:29,359 together. A panel, multiple people insert questions on the same topic, story based 266 00:23:32,085 --> 00:23:35,085 this could be how you learned something, the mistakes you made, or any other 267 00:23:37,397 --> 00:23:40,397 narrative format. The story of how you created one thing in particular, and 268 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:45,640 workshop to have a hands on learning experience for people bring their laptop 269 00:23:48,021 --> 00:23:51,021 and create a thing as you go. A Talk can also be more than one person, talks with 270 00:23:53,678 --> 00:23:56,678 two or three people can be really engaging. Okay, we are going to go into 271 00:23:58,783 --> 00:24:01,783 our first written exercise now. So first, I'm going to help you answer the question. 272 00:24:04,647 --> 00:24:07,647 I don't know what to talk about, or I don't know enough about anything to give a 273 00:24:10,235 --> 00:24:13,235 talk, or I'm not an expert in anything, or if you've given talks and you're just 274 00:24:15,823 --> 00:24:18,823 stuck for what your next talk is, we'll be answering that as well. We're going to do 275 00:24:21,687 --> 00:24:24,687 a brainstorming exercise. Brainstorm as many topics as you can in this exercise. 276 00:24:27,275 --> 00:24:30,275 We're not looking for perfect or even good ideas. The idea is just to get them out 277 00:24:33,001 --> 00:24:36,001 good, bad or ugly, and see if we can get as many as 30 or 40 or 40 ideas. So really 278 00:24:38,796 --> 00:24:41,796 anything that comes to mind. You can write, draw, do mind maps, list, any 279 00:24:43,901 --> 00:24:46,901 format that you like. And while you're summoning the idea gods or getting 280 00:24:49,006 --> 00:24:52,006 writer's block, or anything in between, I'll be prompting you with questions to 281 00:24:54,525 --> 00:24:57,525 generate more topics. And remember, it's always great to talk about what excites 282 00:25:00,113 --> 00:25:03,113 you, not what you think you should talk about. And if you also, if you're new to 283 00:25:05,701 --> 00:25:08,701 WordPress, and you don't have answers to these yet, that's okay. You can do the 284 00:25:11,220 --> 00:25:14,220 prompts to imagine what your answers might be in, say a year from now. 285 00:25:15,460 --> 00:25:18,460 Okay. So get out something to write with. If you haven't already. I'll give you a 286 00:25:22,570 --> 00:25:25,570 moment to do that. And I'll give you a moment to start writing any ideas that are 287 00:25:36,820 --> 00:25:39,820 popping to mind already before we start the prompts in the moment I'll start with 288 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:44,440 the first prompt. 289 00:26:09,340 --> 00:26:12,340 So the first one is what got you into WordPress? What keeps you in it? What do 290 00:27:25,210 --> 00:27:28,210 you love about it? What do you want to learn next? The first time you do 291 00:29:02,380 --> 00:29:05,380 something with a child theme or a plugin or something 292 00:30:05,890 --> 00:30:08,890 Your biggest challenge in WordPress in the last year or two. The last thing that you 293 00:30:47,770 --> 00:30:50,770 learned how did you learn it? 294 00:31:33,730 --> 00:31:36,730 The biggest block that you've ever had with WordPress how did you overcome the 295 00:31:37,450 --> 00:31:40,450 biggest block? What are you most passionate about when it comes to 296 00:32:34,420 --> 00:32:37,420 WordPress what most excites you? 297 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,840 What sorts of things do you love sharing with others about WordPress? Questions 298 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:23,080 about WordPress they get asked about most by clients, friends and family 299 00:35:18,620 --> 00:35:21,620 A list of what you want to learn. Not sure if I asked this one already favorite 300 00:36:21,470 --> 00:36:24,470 plugins. 301 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:14,000 Cool thing you've created. Favorite resources. Cool tricks you use all the 302 00:38:53,090 --> 00:38:56,090 time. What could you talk about without slides? And finally, what prompts did we 303 00:40:28,670 --> 00:40:31,670 not ask which you wish we did? 304 00:40:37,370 --> 00:40:40,370 And I'll give you a couple minutes to keep writing on these or any others or anything 305 00:40:41,240 --> 00:40:44,240 else that comes to mind. Last 20 seconds. All right. Out of curiosity, would anybody 306 00:42:53,900 --> 00:42:56,900 like to share how many topics they wrote down? 307 00:43:02,150 --> 00:43:05,150 Miriam. 308 00:43:04,340 --> 00:43:07,340 I've got about 13. 309 00:43:05,690 --> 00:43:08,690 Nice, great. 310 00:43:08,660 --> 00:43:11,660 Chandrika 311 00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:12,440 I think I got about 20 or 25. 312 00:43:16,340 --> 00:43:19,340 Nice. Angela. 313 00:43:21,410 --> 00:43:24,410 I'm at 15. 314 00:43:23,450 --> 00:43:26,450 Great. Aurooba. 315 00:43:26,270 --> 00:43:29,270 I've got about 17. 316 00:43:28,140 --> 00:43:31,140 Thanks. Bhargav, would you like to share? 317 00:43:32,610 --> 00:43:35,610 I have got about 12 318 00:43:36,450 --> 00:43:39,450 Great. All right. Good work, everybody. So, now that you've got some good, bad and 319 00:43:48,570 --> 00:43:51,570 ugly ideas, out of that list, we are going to do an exercise where you're picking the 320 00:43:55,290 --> 00:43:58,290 two topics from the list that you think best fits the following questions. You 321 00:44:00,390 --> 00:44:03,390 might also find that you come up with new answers that weren't in your list. And if 322 00:44:04,650 --> 00:44:07,650 so, go ahead and write those down. And if for some of these, you don't come up with 323 00:44:08,430 --> 00:44:11,430 any answers, that's okay. Just skip that one. First question. For a story based 324 00:44:18,150 --> 00:44:21,150 talk. Pick two topics that you don't know a lot about, but have had some success 325 00:44:23,130 --> 00:44:26,130 with. This could be a story based on. For example, I don't know much about making 326 00:44:27,930 --> 00:44:30,930 plugins but let's say I've made one for custom post types. 327 00:46:24,630 --> 00:46:27,630 Panel: for moderating a panel, pick two topics you may not know much about that 328 00:46:30,210 --> 00:46:33,210 you would have good questions for. 329 00:47:52,620 --> 00:47:55,620 For how to presentation, pick two topics that you are confident about and could 330 00:47:56,610 --> 00:47:59,610 lead out to presentation. 331 00:49:30,810 --> 00:49:33,810 For a case study, pick two topics that you've successfully worked on that you 332 00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:38,160 feel you could do a case study well 333 00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:21,120 For a workshop, pick two topics that you think you could teach to others in a hands 334 00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:25,680 on manner. This could be for running a workshop. 335 00:52:45,270 --> 00:52:48,270 And lastly, for any type, pick two subjects in the topic list that are your 336 00:52:51,090 --> 00:52:54,090 favorite. 337 00:53:53,190 --> 00:53:56,190 Okay, so now we're going to do an exercise to pick a topic. Right now is doing the 338 00:54:01,620 --> 00:54:04,620 first part, picking the topic. So together, I'm going to give us each two 339 00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:09,600 minutes to chat with each other about what the goal is pick the one that you're most 340 00:54:12,390 --> 00:54:15,390 excited about anything you'd like to develop it further. And for anybody who 341 00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:19,200 wants to discuss it with each other I'll give us two minutes each. So I'll give you 342 00:54:20,700 --> 00:54:23,700 a moment to narrow down your list. See if one pops out. And then start getting 343 00:54:28,380 --> 00:54:31,380 volunteers around the group for who would like to discuss it and I'll give, make 344 00:54:33,750 --> 00:54:36,750 sure that there's time for everybody to have the chance to discuss with each other 345 00:54:59,700 --> 00:55:02,700 Okay, Would anybody like to get help discussing with the group? What their 346 00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:08,280 topic is? Miriam. 347 00:55:13,259 --> 00:55:16,259 I'm always first. I was going back and forth between two topics. But I think one 348 00:55:20,729 --> 00:55:23,729 that is more recent for me is one about transitioning from working in an office to 349 00:55:27,599 --> 00:55:30,599 a remote workspace because I just went through that six months ago. And so 350 00:55:34,890 --> 00:55:37,890 that's something that is very real free right now. Yeah. Nice. 351 00:55:40,710 --> 00:55:43,710 That's a good one. I would go to that. Yeah, 352 00:55:44,370 --> 00:55:47,370 I think there's in WordPress, it seems like it's a land where a lot of people 353 00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:52,080 will start to want to do their own freelancing and working from home. So I 354 00:55:53,820 --> 00:55:56,820 think a lot of people want to know about that. 355 00:55:56,520 --> 00:55:59,520 Or even joining a company that is remote is really common in WordPress, right is 356 00:56:05,260 --> 00:56:08,260 that's a good one Miriam. 357 00:56:08,590 --> 00:56:11,590 Angela. 358 00:56:12,010 --> 00:56:15,010 I had a similar one in which was distributed where 359 00:56:21,910 --> 00:56:24,910 Tucker's 360 00:56:23,860 --> 00:56:26,860 I don't know if I'm packing too much into there for one talk. But in thinking about 361 00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:33,280 how 362 00:56:31,110 --> 00:56:34,110 WordPress, the open source project is built, it's people around the world on 363 00:56:37,140 --> 00:56:40,140 slack on blogs, building it together. So working across 364 00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:46,560 time zones in different cultures is a topic you cut out more. And if it doesn't 365 00:56:49,140 --> 00:56:52,140 work again, yeah, put into the chat. 366 00:56:51,930 --> 00:56:54,930 It's a distributed work across time zones and cultures. Something I've been thinking 367 00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:01,800 about lately. 368 00:57:00,540 --> 00:57:03,540 That sounds like something that those who are running companies would probably be 369 00:57:05,070 --> 00:57:08,070 very interested in. There's probably some other use cases for that as well. Any 370 00:57:11,130 --> 00:57:14,130 anybody else have comments or thoughts on that? 371 00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:19,000 That would probably be a good talk for like, either like a wordcamp, or there are 372 00:57:21,460 --> 00:57:24,460 a lot of like larger companies and the reps or maybe even like a larger wordcamp. 373 00:57:27,610 --> 00:57:30,610 Like, it could be even a really good lightning talk. Like we're getting us. 374 00:57:33,250 --> 00:57:36,250 Yeah, 375 00:57:34,590 --> 00:57:37,590 I think you'd have more a more specific niche wanting to hear that one. But 376 00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:41,040 there's definitely places for that. 377 00:57:39,630 --> 00:57:42,630 And I was wondering if it would be good for like individual contributors, because 378 00:57:47,340 --> 00:57:50,340 they will get exposed to working with people around the world, like just through 379 00:57:52,590 --> 00:57:55,590 slack. Right? 380 00:57:56,190 --> 00:57:59,190 There might be a way to position it for that as well. So when we get to the next 381 00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:02,760 parts, where we're refining it, you might find a way to kind of address for both for 382 00:58:04,860 --> 00:58:07,860 a different talk for each depending on 383 00:58:08,310 --> 00:58:11,310 you could really tailor that depending on the kind of audience you're focusing on. 384 00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:18,240 Anyone else? 385 00:58:19,410 --> 00:58:22,410 I 386 00:58:21,810 --> 00:58:24,810 get the time again. 387 00:58:24,730 --> 00:58:27,730 Aurooba. 388 00:58:27,550 --> 00:58:30,550 Um, I often do technical talks, because that's something I enjoy learning and 389 00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:35,920 enjoy teaching. So the one that I was kind of thinking about is how to extend default 390 00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:41,560 Gutenberg blocks. Oh, that could be a good one. Because you know, Gutenberg is still 391 00:58:44,110 --> 00:58:47,110 new. But sometimes all people really need is a couple more options, and then a 392 00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:52,480 Gutenberg block that already exists. 393 00:58:51,990 --> 00:58:54,990 Oh, yeah. I mean, Gutenberg is a hot topic right now. So anything, Gutenberg is 394 00:58:57,930 --> 00:59:00,930 definitely something that is popular. And that sounds like a really good topic that 395 00:59:03,180 --> 00:59:06,180 people might not realize that they don't have to code a whole new one. They can 396 00:59:06,780 --> 00:59:09,780 actually use something that exists. 397 00:59:09,150 --> 00:59:12,150 Mm hmm. 398 00:59:11,820 --> 00:59:14,820 I would go to that talk. 399 00:59:14,490 --> 00:59:17,490 Yeah, nice. There you go. 400 00:59:17,740 --> 00:59:20,740 Excellent. Yeah, coming over. Talk at your meetup. Yeah, 401 00:59:24,330 --> 00:59:27,330 I like that talk as well. 402 00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:31,960 Yeah, great. 403 00:59:30,430 --> 00:59:33,430 And if you did as a case study, I 404 00:59:32,100 --> 00:59:35,100 think it would be really cool. 405 00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:36,240 If like, you showed how you did it yourself. A real use cases? Yeah. 406 00:59:44,070 --> 00:59:47,070 Great, thank you Chandrika. 407 00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:49,320 I had a similar topic. Using advanced custom fields and Gutenberg together to 408 00:59:53,250 --> 00:59:56,250 create blocks. 409 00:59:56,190 --> 00:59:59,190 Nice. Yes. It's even more specific. I like that. Yeah. Yeah, I think I think again, 410 01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:07,920 Gutenberg is currently in 2019. Very, very big topic. And 411 01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:14,280 I think really new. 412 01:00:12,870 --> 01:00:15,870 Yep. Yeah. And I know, I mean, back when I was doing WordPress development, which 413 01:00:20,340 --> 01:00:23,340 happened to be up until Gutenberg became a thing. I was using advanced custom fields 414 01:00:25,410 --> 01:00:28,410 a lot. So I imagined that is a really important time. 415 01:00:31,010 --> 01:00:34,010 One, one more thing that is new right now it's Gatsby JS. So I had a topic in mind 416 01:00:38,990 --> 01:00:41,990 how to get started with Gatsby JS and WordPress. 417 01:00:42,450 --> 01:00:45,450 Great. Okay, that's cool. Like, cool. Yeah, 418 01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:49,000 that's one. One more. Like what I am currently transitioning through is my 419 01:00:53,320 --> 01:00:56,320 journey as a developer to functional consultant and why choose that? 420 01:00:58,300 --> 01:01:01,300 Ooh, interesting. Let's help you choose two people have thoughts between these two 421 01:01:04,090 --> 01:01:07,090 topics? 422 01:01:06,610 --> 01:01:09,610 I like the second one. I mean, I like both. But listening to those personal 423 01:01:11,770 --> 01:01:14,770 stories is always a nice thing. Agreed. 424 01:01:18,540 --> 01:01:21,540 Yeah, I agree as well. And when you said it, it seems like you had some passion 425 01:01:24,300 --> 01:01:27,300 behind it as well. So I really like seeing that. 426 01:01:28,170 --> 01:01:31,170 I can also see a lot of people wanting to make a similar move or be thinking about 427 01:01:33,450 --> 01:01:36,450 it. I've seen it happen a lot. So it could be a definitely useful topic. Story. 428 01:01:40,410 --> 01:01:43,410 Nice. Great. So it sounds like everyone loves the second one. Have we covered 429 01:01:48,150 --> 01:01:51,150 everybody? 430 01:01:49,330 --> 01:01:52,330 Aurooba did you go? Yes. Yes. Great. Okay. So now we're going to do is an exercise 431 01:01:56,470 --> 01:01:59,470 where we're going to further refine the topic. So first of all, wherever you're at 432 01:02:02,140 --> 01:02:05,140 now, it's okay. If you're, if those out there in the world are still not sure what 433 01:02:09,280 --> 01:02:12,280 the topic all of us were, it sounds like we're pretty sure. But if there were 434 01:02:12,370 --> 01:02:15,370 people in the group who were not sure, it's okay, just pick one to say to the 435 01:02:16,570 --> 01:02:19,570 rest of the group that you'll use for the exercises for the rest of the workshop. 436 01:02:20,470 --> 01:02:23,470 You can always use your topic today just as a practice and do a different topic 437 01:02:24,700 --> 01:02:27,700 later. So don't worry about picking the perfect one. But since we all know our 438 01:02:29,410 --> 01:02:32,410 topics I'm going to move on. So to further refine your topic, we are going to apply 439 01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:42,400 who what why, how, when and where, for example, who is this plugin for? What does 440 01:02:48,010 --> 01:02:51,010 this plugin do? Why was it created? How does it work? And when would you use it? 441 01:02:52,780 --> 01:02:55,780 Where would you use it? So I'll give you about five minutes to do this writing 442 01:02:56,950 --> 01:02:59,950 exercise. 443 01:07:49,390 --> 01:07:52,390 We've got about 15 seconds left. Okay however far along you're you're out with 444 01:08:07,510 --> 01:08:10,510 that is fine just use what you have from this list. Can you refine your topic? Is 445 01:08:14,800 --> 01:08:17,800 there something more specific on which you could give the talk I'll give you two 446 01:08:19,060 --> 01:08:22,060 minutes to polish your topic. We've got about 20 seconds left. 447 01:10:37,940 --> 01:10:40,940 Okay, so now we're going to go around the circle, going around the circle, and give 448 01:10:46,730 --> 01:10:49,730 everyone the opportunity to say what topic they chose. And if you'd rather not when 449 01:10:50,540 --> 01:10:53,540 it's your turn, say pass. And then also we can give you feedback if you like. So what 450 01:11:01,790 --> 01:11:04,790 I'm going to do is go around the circle, I'm going to, say the order that we're 451 01:11:05,120 --> 01:11:08,120 going to speak in and then if you want to say pass, you can. Aurooba, Angela, Miriam 452 01:11:09,740 --> 01:11:12,740 Chandrika and Bhargav. 453 01:11:13,430 --> 01:11:16,430 Aurooba. 454 01:11:16,550 --> 01:11:19,550 Yeah, I just I picked what I had chosen before, which is how to extend default 455 01:11:23,330 --> 01:11:26,330 Gutenberg blocks. I chose not to go with the case study style, because I want it to 456 01:11:27,860 --> 01:11:30,860 be able to show multiple options for different types of blocks that I've seen a 457 01:11:32,390 --> 01:11:35,390 lot of people wanting to extend, because they want to create something just like a 458 01:11:38,900 --> 01:11:41,900 default Gutenberg block, but then they need a couple more options. Some is why go 459 01:11:43,100 --> 01:11:46,100 through all of those common scenarios. 460 01:11:46,040 --> 01:11:49,040 Great. Thanks, Angela. 461 01:11:51,380 --> 01:11:54,380 So I also 462 01:11:54,140 --> 01:11:57,140 might same topic, but based on the helpful feedback, I've turned it a little bit to 463 01:11:59,810 --> 01:12:02,810 be a little more focused 464 01:12:01,520 --> 01:12:04,520 on. 465 01:12:04,280 --> 01:12:07,280 I kept thinking, 466 01:12:06,890 --> 01:12:09,890 building WordPress across time and space, but more in the sense of like, tips for 467 01:12:14,960 --> 01:12:17,960 working globally, to build WordPress together. Hmm. Right. 468 01:12:20,330 --> 01:12:23,330 It's a cool title. 469 01:12:22,160 --> 01:12:25,160 It will be working more on titles later as well. So we'll define that further. Great. 470 01:12:27,410 --> 01:12:30,410 Miriam 471 01:12:30,930 --> 01:12:33,930 Like the others, I've kept the same topic. And I've kind of refined it down to tips 472 01:12:37,770 --> 01:12:40,770 and tricks, because a lot of people have worked in an office for most of their 473 01:12:43,890 --> 01:12:46,890 career. And for some reason or another, they choose to, or they have to go remote. 474 01:12:49,860 --> 01:12:52,860 And it can be a very scary thing for some people. So I was just going to share the 475 01:12:53,640 --> 01:12:56,640 tips and tricks that I've learned as I've made that transition. So story based, 476 01:12:58,980 --> 01:13:01,980 I guess, 477 01:13:00,660 --> 01:13:03,660 nice 478 01:13:02,670 --> 01:13:05,670 Chandrika. 479 01:13:06,600 --> 01:13:09,600 I've kept the same topic. Still trying to work on the title. But I think focusing 480 01:13:14,220 --> 01:13:17,220 more on building custom sites with ACF blocks, because it's much easier to 481 01:13:22,410 --> 01:13:25,410 customize your client sites with custom ACF blocks. 482 01:13:26,780 --> 01:13:29,780 Nice. Yeah. I still need time. Yeah, we will work on titles later. But I actually 483 01:13:33,230 --> 01:13:36,230 like that title, as is. So you'll see later if you need to change it at all, if 484 01:13:36,920 --> 01:13:39,920 you have any other ideas are not great. Bhargav 485 01:13:42,680 --> 01:13:45,680 based on the feedback, I have kept my personal story like storyline and the 486 01:13:49,310 --> 01:13:52,310 topic and it says that my journey as a developer to a function functional 487 01:13:56,150 --> 01:13:59,150 consultant. Why choose it? 488 01:14:00,180 --> 01:14:03,180 Great. Yeah, that sounds good. Wonderful. Well, thank you very much, everybody.