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Dialogue: 0,0:00:05.38,0:00:10.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Phyllida Barlow: Homemade]
Dialogue: 0,0:00:12.80,0:00:15.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My mother was very creative:
Dialogue: 0,0:00:15.40,0:00:18.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,knitting, dressmaking, sewing.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:20.11,0:00:22.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I love the way she would teach me
Dialogue: 0,0:00:22.90,0:00:24.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how to make dolls house furniture
Dialogue: 0,0:00:24.76,0:00:26.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,out of discarded matchboxes.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:30.82,0:00:34.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Very simple, ad hoc ways of doing things.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:35.95,0:00:38.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The antithesis of the toy shop,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:39.38,0:00:43.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,everything was about\Nresourcing it within the home.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:06.79,0:01:08.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When I was at art school,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:08.63,0:01:10.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there were so many rights and wrongs
Dialogue: 0,0:01:10.73,0:01:14.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about techniques, about processes,\Nabout forms,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:14.26,0:01:17.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,even about ideas.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:19.29,0:01:22.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And all sorts of things were taboo,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:22.39,0:01:26.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like domesticity, or certain crafts
Dialogue: 0,0:01:26.41,0:01:28.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that were perhaps associated with women,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:28.95,0:01:30.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like knitting or sewing.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:32.88,0:01:35.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was the big,\Nheavy traditions of sculpture
Dialogue: 0,0:01:35.28,0:01:37.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that were important to learn,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:37.15,0:01:39.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I wasn't that good at them.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:43.87,0:01:46.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Years later, my teaching\Nwas very influenced
Dialogue: 0,0:01:46.28,0:01:50.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by not going towards\Nthe right/wrong approach
Dialogue: 0,0:01:50.41,0:01:54.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but trying to find things\Nthat could really
Dialogue: 0,0:01:54.28,0:01:58.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,unravel something quite\Nidiosyncratic to that student.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:00.23,0:02:02.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, what were their aspirations?
Dialogue: 0,0:02:02.38,0:02:04.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What was going on in their head?
Dialogue: 0,0:02:05.69,0:02:08.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then being able to invite them
Dialogue: 0,0:02:08.65,0:02:10.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to start thinking about processes
Dialogue: 0,0:02:10.84,0:02:14.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that would reflect those\Ndesires and ambitions.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:15.90,0:02:18.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My teaching was very much to do
Dialogue: 0,0:02:18.73,0:02:21.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with what I felt I had\Nmissed at art school.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:27.58,0:02:29.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've got five children.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:29.03,0:02:31.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They're all nearly in their forties now.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:31.92,0:02:36.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I think I wanted to\Ncarry on that positive sense
Dialogue: 0,0:02:36.10,0:02:39.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that my mother had, that\Nthey could have happy lives
Dialogue: 0,0:02:39.95,0:02:41.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and do what they wanted to do,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:41.58,0:02:44.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that they weren't obliged to fulfill
Dialogue: 0,0:02:44.46,0:02:48.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,some higher expectation. [LAUGHS]
Dialogue: 0,0:02:51.08,0:02:52.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They all make art.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:52.89,0:02:56.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Our third daughter, she's\Nan HIV nurse in London.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:56.51,0:02:59.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So she's got a sensible job,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:59.00,0:03:02.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but she paints a lot, which is amazing.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:05.80,0:03:09.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There are plenty of artists\Nwho don't have exhibitions.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:09.09,0:03:12.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's plenty of art that's never seen.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:12.26,0:03:16.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I think I'm intrigued by that.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:16.82,0:03:19.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Making work that does\Nnot have a destination
Dialogue: 0,0:03:19.85,0:03:23.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,has its loneliness and\Nits sadness about it.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:23.23,0:03:26.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And many artists endure\Nthat for their entire lives,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:26.70,0:03:27.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it's heroic.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:29.06,0:03:31.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The novel that never gets published,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:31.87,0:03:34.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,should it never have been written?
Dialogue: 0,0:03:34.39,0:03:35.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Of course it should be.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:35.28,0:03:37.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's making a fantastic contribution
Dialogue: 0,0:03:37.93,0:03:40.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to culture of the moment
Dialogue: 0,0:03:40.77,0:03:45.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because that individual has\Nthat huge urge to do that
Dialogue: 0,0:03:45.44,0:03:49.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,without any other qualifying pressures.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:53.97,0:03:56.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Those are my sort of private thoughts
Dialogue: 0,0:03:56.10,0:03:58.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that I think there's a\Nlot about the art world
Dialogue: 0,0:03:58.68,0:04:00.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the way we experience art
Dialogue: 0,0:04:00.89,0:04:03.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's fantastic, but\NI think there's a lot
Dialogue: 0,0:04:03.21,0:04:08.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's not entirely spoken\Nabout or recognized,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:10.54,0:04:14.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is the unseen and the unknown
Dialogue: 0,0:04:14.09,0:04:18.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the creative act as a\Ndeeply private experience.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:20.83,0:04:23.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is this great, powerful desire
Dialogue: 0,0:04:23.29,0:04:25.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to just create something.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:26.66,0:04:29.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And does that just get eroded away?
Dialogue: 0,0:04:32.30,0:04:34.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I hope not. [LAUGHS]