[Script Info] Title: [Events] Format: Layer, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text Dialogue: 0,0:00:01.00,0:00:03.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I am the daughter of a forger, Dialogue: 0,0:00:03.92,0:00:05.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not just any forger ... Dialogue: 0,0:00:05.86,0:00:08.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When you hear the word "forger," you often understand "mercenary." Dialogue: 0,0:00:08.78,0:00:12.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You understand "forged currency," "forged pictures." Dialogue: 0,0:00:12.30,0:00:14.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My father is no such man. Dialogue: 0,0:00:14.61,0:00:15.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For 30 years of his life, Dialogue: 0,0:00:15.80,0:00:18.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he made false papers -- Dialogue: 0,0:00:18.50,0:00:20.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,never for himself, always for other people, Dialogue: 0,0:00:20.45,0:00:24.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and to come to the aid of the persecuted and the oppressed. Dialogue: 0,0:00:24.34,0:00:26.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Let me introduce him. Dialogue: 0,0:00:26.50,0:00:29.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Here is my father at age 19. Dialogue: 0,0:00:29.50,0:00:33.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It all began for him during World War II, Dialogue: 0,0:00:33.50,0:00:35.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when at age 17 he found himself thrust Dialogue: 0,0:00:35.50,0:00:37.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,into a forged documents workshop. Dialogue: 0,0:00:37.20,0:00:41.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He quickly became the false papers expert of the Resistance. Dialogue: 0,0:00:41.70,0:00:43.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it's not a banal story -- Dialogue: 0,0:00:43.50,0:00:46.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,after the liberation he continued Dialogue: 0,0:00:46.50,0:00:49.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to make false papers until the '70s. Dialogue: 0,0:00:49.60,0:00:51.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When I was a child Dialogue: 0,0:00:51.25,0:00:53.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I knew nothing about this, of course. Dialogue: 0,0:00:53.40,0:00:55.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is me in the middle making faces. Dialogue: 0,0:00:55.90,0:00:58.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I grew up in the Paris suburbs Dialogue: 0,0:00:58.23,0:01:02.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I was the youngest of three children. Dialogue: 0,0:01:02.12,0:01:05.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I had a "normal" dad like everybody else, Dialogue: 0,0:01:05.01,0:01:06.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,apart from the fact that he was 30 years older than ... Dialogue: 0,0:01:06.96,0:01:10.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,well, he was basically old enough to be my grandfather. Dialogue: 0,0:01:10.84,0:01:13.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Anyway, he was a photographer and a street educator, Dialogue: 0,0:01:13.80,0:01:17.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he always taught us to obey the law very strictly. Dialogue: 0,0:01:17.40,0:01:19.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And, of course, he never talked about his past life Dialogue: 0,0:01:19.70,0:01:21.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when he was a forger. Dialogue: 0,0:01:21.90,0:01:24.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There was, however, an incident I'm going to tell you about, Dialogue: 0,0:01:24.46,0:01:27.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that perhaps could have led me suspect something. Dialogue: 0,0:01:27.38,0:01:30.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was in high school and got a bad grade, Dialogue: 0,0:01:30.29,0:01:32.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a rare event for me, Dialogue: 0,0:01:32.24,0:01:35.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so I decided to hide it from my parents. Dialogue: 0,0:01:35.18,0:01:39.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In order to do that, I set out to forge their signature. Dialogue: 0,0:01:39.07,0:01:42.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I started working on my mother's signature, Dialogue: 0,0:01:42.20,0:01:44.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because my father's is absolutely impossible to forge. Dialogue: 0,0:01:44.91,0:01:47.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, I got working. I took some sheets of paper Dialogue: 0,0:01:47.82,0:01:50.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and started practicing, practicing, practicing, Dialogue: 0,0:01:50.74,0:01:52.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,until I reached what I thought was a steady hand, Dialogue: 0,0:01:52.69,0:01:54.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and went into action. Dialogue: 0,0:01:54.63,0:01:57.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Later, while checking my school bag, Dialogue: 0,0:01:57.00,0:02:00.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,my mother got hold of my school assignment and immediately saw that the signature was forged. Dialogue: 0,0:02:00.49,0:02:02.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She yelled at me like she never had before. Dialogue: 0,0:02:02.44,0:02:05.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I went to hide in my bedroom, under the blankets, Dialogue: 0,0:02:05.35,0:02:08.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then I waited for my father to come back from work Dialogue: 0,0:02:08.30,0:02:10.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with, one could say, much apprehension. Dialogue: 0,0:02:10.19,0:02:12.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I heard him come in. Dialogue: 0,0:02:12.16,0:02:16.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I remained under the blankets. He entered my room, Dialogue: 0,0:02:16.08,0:02:18.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sat on the corner of the bed, Dialogue: 0,0:02:18.02,0:02:20.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he was silent, so I pulled the blanket from my head, Dialogue: 0,0:02:20.91,0:02:23.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and when he saw me he started laughing. Dialogue: 0,0:02:23.83,0:02:26.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He was laughing so hard, he could not stop and he was holding my assignment in his hand. Dialogue: 0,0:02:26.75,0:02:31.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then he said, "But really, Sarah, you could have worked harder! Can't you see it's really too small?" Dialogue: 0,0:02:31.10,0:02:37.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Indeed, it's rather small. Dialogue: 0,0:02:37.00,0:02:39.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was born in Algeria. Dialogue: 0,0:02:39.00,0:02:42.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There I would hear people say my father was a "moudjahid" Dialogue: 0,0:02:42.30,0:02:43.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that means "fighter." Dialogue: 0,0:02:43.50,0:02:48.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Later on, in France, I loved eavesdropping on grownups' conversations, Dialogue: 0,0:02:48.08,0:02:51.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I would hear all sorts of stories about my father's previous life, Dialogue: 0,0:02:51.00,0:02:53.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,especially that he had "done" World War II, Dialogue: 0,0:02:53.92,0:02:55.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that he had "done" the Algerian war. Dialogue: 0,0:02:55.86,0:02:58.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And in my head I would be thinking that "doing" a war meant being a soldier. Dialogue: 0,0:02:58.78,0:03:02.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But knowing my father, and how he kept saying that he was a pacifist and non-violent, Dialogue: 0,0:03:02.70,0:03:06.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I found it very hard to picture him with a helmet and gun. Dialogue: 0,0:03:06.00,0:03:08.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And indeed, I was very far from the mark. Dialogue: 0,0:03:08.00,0:03:11.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One day, while my father was working on a file Dialogue: 0,0:03:11.20,0:03:14.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for us to obtain French nationality, Dialogue: 0,0:03:14.37,0:03:16.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I happened to see some documents Dialogue: 0,0:03:16.31,0:03:18.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that caught my attention. Dialogue: 0,0:03:18.73,0:03:20.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These are real! Dialogue: 0,0:03:20.40,0:03:23.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These are mine, I was born an Argentinean. Dialogue: 0,0:03:23.12,0:03:24.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But the document I happened to see Dialogue: 0,0:03:24.90,0:03:27.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that would help us build a case for the authorities Dialogue: 0,0:03:27.01,0:03:29.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was a document from the army Dialogue: 0,0:03:29.70,0:03:32.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that thanked my father for his work Dialogue: 0,0:03:32.87,0:03:34.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on behalf of the secret services. Dialogue: 0,0:03:34.79,0:03:37.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then, suddenly, I went "wow!" Dialogue: 0,0:03:37.70,0:03:39.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My father, a secret agent? Dialogue: 0,0:03:39.40,0:03:41.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was very James Bond. Dialogue: 0,0:03:41.57,0:03:46.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I wanted to ask him questions, which he didn't answer. Dialogue: 0,0:03:46.46,0:03:49.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And later, I told myself that Dialogue: 0,0:03:49.40,0:03:52.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one day I would have to question him. Dialogue: 0,0:03:52.00,0:03:54.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then I became a mother and had a son, Dialogue: 0,0:03:54.15,0:03:57.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and finally decided it was time -- that he absolutely had to talk to us. Dialogue: 0,0:03:57.30,0:03:59.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I had become a mother Dialogue: 0,0:03:59.30,0:04:01.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he was celebrating his 77th birthday, Dialogue: 0,0:04:01.30,0:04:03.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and suddenly I was very, very afraid. Dialogue: 0,0:04:03.60,0:04:05.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I feared he'd go Dialogue: 0,0:04:05.85,0:04:07.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and take his silences with him, Dialogue: 0,0:04:07.79,0:04:09.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and take his secrets with him. Dialogue: 0,0:04:09.74,0:04:12.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I managed to convince him that it was important for us, Dialogue: 0,0:04:12.10,0:04:13.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but possibly also for other people Dialogue: 0,0:04:13.63,0:04:15.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that he shared his story. Dialogue: 0,0:04:15.57,0:04:17.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He decided to tell it to me Dialogue: 0,0:04:17.52,0:04:18.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I made a book, Dialogue: 0,0:04:18.80,0:04:21.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from which I'm going to read you some excerpts later. Dialogue: 0,0:04:21.41,0:04:24.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, his story. My father was born in Argentina. Dialogue: 0,0:04:24.32,0:04:26.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,His parents were of Russian descent. Dialogue: 0,0:04:26.27,0:04:30.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The whole family came to settle in France in the '30s. Dialogue: 0,0:04:30.19,0:04:35.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,His parents were Jewish, Russian and above all, very poor. Dialogue: 0,0:04:35.00,0:04:38.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So at the age of 14 my father had to work. Dialogue: 0,0:04:38.00,0:04:39.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And with his only diploma, Dialogue: 0,0:04:39.20,0:04:40.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,his primary education certificate, Dialogue: 0,0:04:40.50,0:04:43.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he found himself working at a dyer - dry cleaner. Dialogue: 0,0:04:43.00,0:04:46.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's where he discovered something totally magical, Dialogue: 0,0:04:46.20,0:04:48.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and when he talks about it, it's fascinating -- Dialogue: 0,0:04:48.00,0:04:50.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's the magic of dyeing chemistry. Dialogue: 0,0:04:50.80,0:04:52.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,During that time the war was happening Dialogue: 0,0:04:52.60,0:04:55.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and his mother was killed when he was 15. Dialogue: 0,0:04:55.47,0:04:58.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This coincided with the time when Dialogue: 0,0:04:58.00,0:05:00.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he threw himself body and soul into chemistry Dialogue: 0,0:05:00.00,0:05:02.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because it was the only consolation for his sadness. Dialogue: 0,0:05:02.70,0:05:06.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All day he would ask many questions to his boss Dialogue: 0,0:05:06.16,0:05:09.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to learn, to accumulate more and more knowledge, Dialogue: 0,0:05:09.00,0:05:10.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and at night, when no one was looking, Dialogue: 0,0:05:10.50,0:05:12.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he'd put his experience to practice. Dialogue: 0,0:05:12.70,0:05:17.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He was mostly interested in ink bleaching. Dialogue: 0,0:05:17.80,0:05:20.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All this to tell you Dialogue: 0,0:05:20.00,0:05:22.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that if my father became a forger, actually, Dialogue: 0,0:05:22.50,0:05:24.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it was almost by accident. Dialogue: 0,0:05:24.50,0:05:27.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,His family was Jewish, so they were hounded. Dialogue: 0,0:05:27.00,0:05:30.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Finally they were all arrested and taken to the Drancy camp Dialogue: 0,0:05:30.00,0:05:33.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they managed to get out at the last minute thanks to their Argentinean papers. Dialogue: 0,0:05:33.20,0:05:34.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, they were out, Dialogue: 0,0:05:34.34,0:05:37.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but they were always in danger. The big "Jew" stamp was still on their papers. Dialogue: 0,0:05:37.25,0:05:40.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was my grandfather who decided they needed false documents. Dialogue: 0,0:05:40.50,0:05:44.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My father had been instilled with such respect for the law Dialogue: 0,0:05:44.00,0:05:46.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that although he was being persecuted, Dialogue: 0,0:05:46.00,0:05:48.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he'd never thought of false papers. Dialogue: 0,0:05:48.00,0:05:51.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But it was he who went to meet a man from the Resistance. Dialogue: 0,0:05:51.00,0:05:53.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In those times documents had hard covers, Dialogue: 0,0:05:53.50,0:05:55.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they were filled in by hand, Dialogue: 0,0:05:55.00,0:05:58.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they stated your job. Dialogue: 0,0:05:58.00,0:06:00.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In order to survive, he needed Dialogue: 0,0:06:00.20,0:06:02.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to be working. He asked the man Dialogue: 0,0:06:02.20,0:06:04.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to write "dyer." Dialogue: 0,0:06:04.00,0:06:07.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Suddenly the man looked very, very interested. Dialogue: 0,0:06:07.00,0:06:10.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As a "dyer," do you know how to bleach ink marks? Dialogue: 0,0:06:10.20,0:06:12.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Of course he knew. Dialogue: 0,0:06:12.50,0:06:14.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And suddenly the man started explaining that Dialogue: 0,0:06:14.30,0:06:17.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,actually the whole Resistance had a huge problem: Dialogue: 0,0:06:17.00,0:06:19.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,even the top experts Dialogue: 0,0:06:19.60,0:06:23.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,could not manage to bleach an ink, called "indelible," Dialogue: 0,0:06:23.20,0:06:25.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the "Waterman" blue ink. Dialogue: 0,0:06:25.40,0:06:29.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And my father immediately replied that he knew exactly Dialogue: 0,0:06:29.30,0:06:30.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how to bleach it. Dialogue: 0,0:06:30.50,0:06:33.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, of course, the man was very impressed with this young man of 17 Dialogue: 0,0:06:33.70,0:06:37.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who could immediately give him the formula, so he recruited him. Dialogue: 0,0:06:37.50,0:06:40.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And actually, without knowing it, my father had invented something Dialogue: 0,0:06:40.50,0:06:43.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we can find in every schoolchild's pencil case: Dialogue: 0,0:06:43.15,0:06:46.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the so-called "correction pen." Dialogue: 0,0:06:46.50,0:06:51.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Applause) Dialogue: 0,0:06:52.00,0:06:53.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But it was only the beginning. Dialogue: 0,0:06:53.40,0:06:55.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's my father. Dialogue: 0,0:06:55.00,0:06:56.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As soon as he got to the lab, Dialogue: 0,0:06:56.50,0:06:57.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,even though he was the youngest, Dialogue: 0,0:06:57.90,0:07:00.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he immediately saw that there was a problem with the making of forged documents. Dialogue: 0,0:07:00.80,0:07:03.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All the movements stopped at falsifying. Dialogue: 0,0:07:03.70,0:07:06.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But demand was ever-growing Dialogue: 0,0:07:06.30,0:07:08.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it was difficult to tamper with existing documents. Dialogue: 0,0:07:08.90,0:07:10.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He told himself it was necessary to make them from scratch. Dialogue: 0,0:07:10.40,0:07:13.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He started a press. He started photoengraving. Dialogue: 0,0:07:13.20,0:07:14.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He started making rubber stamps. Dialogue: 0,0:07:14.80,0:07:16.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He started inventing all kind of things -- Dialogue: 0,0:07:16.60,0:07:20.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with some materials he invented a centrifuge using a bicycle wheel. Dialogue: 0,0:07:20.00,0:07:22.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Anyway, he had to do all this Dialogue: 0,0:07:22.00,0:07:24.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because he was completely obsessed with output. Dialogue: 0,0:07:24.80,0:07:27.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He had made a simple calculation: Dialogue: 0,0:07:27.00,0:07:30.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In one hour he could make 30 forged documents. Dialogue: 0,0:07:30.10,0:07:34.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If he slept one hour, 30 people would die. Dialogue: 0,0:07:34.50,0:07:37.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This sense of Dialogue: 0,0:07:37.50,0:07:40.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,responsibility for other people's lives when he was just 17 -- Dialogue: 0,0:07:40.70,0:07:43.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and also his guilt for being a survivor, Dialogue: 0,0:07:43.70,0:07:47.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,since he had escaped the camp when his friends had not -- Dialogue: 0,0:07:47.30,0:07:49.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,stayed with him all his life. Dialogue: 0,0:07:49.55,0:07:52.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And this is maybe what explains why, for 30 years, Dialogue: 0,0:07:52.47,0:07:55.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he continued to make false papers Dialogue: 0,0:07:55.10,0:07:57.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at the expense of all kinds of sacrifices. Dialogue: 0,0:07:57.40,0:07:58.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'd like to talk about those sacrifices, Dialogue: 0,0:07:58.30,0:08:00.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because there were many. Dialogue: 0,0:08:00.20,0:08:02.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There were obviously financial sacrifices Dialogue: 0,0:08:02.70,0:08:04.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because he always refused to be paid. Dialogue: 0,0:08:04.50,0:08:07.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To him, being paid would have meant being a mercenary. Dialogue: 0,0:08:07.20,0:08:08.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If he had accepted payment, Dialogue: 0,0:08:08.80,0:08:10.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he wouldn't be able to say "yes" or "no" Dialogue: 0,0:08:10.60,0:08:13.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,depending on what he deemed a just or unjust cause. Dialogue: 0,0:08:13.00,0:08:14.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So he was a photographer by day, Dialogue: 0,0:08:14.90,0:08:16.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and a forger by night for 30 years. Dialogue: 0,0:08:16.50,0:08:18.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He was broke all of the time. Dialogue: 0,0:08:18.50,0:08:21.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then there were the emotional sacrifices: Dialogue: 0,0:08:21.50,0:08:24.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How can one live with a woman while having so many secrets? Dialogue: 0,0:08:24.50,0:08:28.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How can one explain what one does at night in the lab, every single night? Dialogue: 0,0:08:28.70,0:08:32.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Of course, there was another kind of sacrifice Dialogue: 0,0:08:32.00,0:08:35.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,involving his family that I understood much later. Dialogue: 0,0:08:35.40,0:08:38.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One day my father introduced me to my sister. Dialogue: 0,0:08:38.50,0:08:42.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He also explained to me that I had a brother, too, Dialogue: 0,0:08:42.50,0:08:48.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the first time I saw them I must have been three or four, Dialogue: 0,0:08:48.50,0:08:50.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they were 30 years older than me. Dialogue: 0,0:08:50.30,0:08:55.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They are both in their sixties now. Dialogue: 0,0:08:55.80,0:08:58.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In order to write the book, Dialogue: 0,0:08:58.50,0:09:02.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I asked my sister questions. I wanted to know who my father was, Dialogue: 0,0:09:02.00,0:09:03.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who was the father she had known. Dialogue: 0,0:09:03.50,0:09:07.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She explained that the father that she'd had Dialogue: 0,0:09:07.60,0:09:11.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,would tell them he'd come and pick them up on Sunday to go for a walk. Dialogue: 0,0:09:11.80,0:09:14.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They would get all dressed up and wait for him, Dialogue: 0,0:09:14.40,0:09:16.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but he would almost never come. Dialogue: 0,0:09:16.20,0:09:19.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He'd say, "I'll call." He wouldn't call. Dialogue: 0,0:09:19.50,0:09:21.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then he would not come. Dialogue: 0,0:09:21.50,0:09:24.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then one day he totally disappeared. Dialogue: 0,0:09:24.80,0:09:26.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Time passed, Dialogue: 0,0:09:26.20,0:09:29.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they thought he had surely forgotten them, Dialogue: 0,0:09:29.40,0:09:31.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at first. Dialogue: 0,0:09:31.00,0:09:32.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then as time passed, Dialogue: 0,0:09:32.50,0:09:34.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at the end of almost two years, they thought, Dialogue: 0,0:09:34.50,0:09:37.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Well, perhaps our father has died." Dialogue: 0,0:09:37.70,0:09:40.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then I understood Dialogue: 0,0:09:40.00,0:09:42.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that asking my father so many questions Dialogue: 0,0:09:42.90,0:09:45.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was stirring up a whole past he probably didn't feel like talking about Dialogue: 0,0:09:45.70,0:09:47.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because it was painful. Dialogue: 0,0:09:47.30,0:09:52.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And while my half brother and sister thought they'd been abandoned, Dialogue: 0,0:09:52.00,0:09:53.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,orphaned, Dialogue: 0,0:09:53.70,0:09:56.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,my father was making false papers. Dialogue: 0,0:09:56.00,0:09:59.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And if he did not tell them, it was of course to protect them. Dialogue: 0,0:09:59.50,0:10:01.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,After the liberation he made false papers Dialogue: 0,0:10:01.30,0:10:04.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to allow the survivors of concentration camps to immigrate to Palestine Dialogue: 0,0:10:04.20,0:10:06.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,before the creation of Israel. Dialogue: 0,0:10:06.10,0:10:08.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then, as he was a staunch anti-colonialist, Dialogue: 0,0:10:08.50,0:10:12.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he made false papers for Algerians during the Algerian war. Dialogue: 0,0:10:12.00,0:10:14.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,After the Algerian war, Dialogue: 0,0:10:14.60,0:10:17.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at the heart of the international resistance movements, Dialogue: 0,0:10:17.20,0:10:18.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,his name circulated Dialogue: 0,0:10:18.90,0:10:21.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the whole world came knocking at his door. Dialogue: 0,0:10:21.20,0:10:24.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In Africa there were countries fighting for their independence: Dialogue: 0,0:10:24.70,0:10:27.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Guinea, Guinea-Bissau, Angola. Dialogue: 0,0:10:27.70,0:10:32.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then my father connected with Nelson Mandela's anti-apartheid party. Dialogue: 0,0:10:32.20,0:10:35.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He made false papers for persecuted black South Africans. Dialogue: 0,0:10:35.70,0:10:37.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There was also Latin America. Dialogue: 0,0:10:37.50,0:10:40.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My father helped those who resisted dictatorships Dialogue: 0,0:10:40.20,0:10:42.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the Dominican Republic, Haiti, Dialogue: 0,0:10:42.10,0:10:48.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then it was the turn of Brazil, Argentina, Venezuela, El Salvador, Nicaragua, Dialogue: 0,0:10:48.20,0:10:53.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Colombia, Peru, Uruguay, Chile and Mexico. Dialogue: 0,0:10:53.80,0:10:55.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then there was the Vietnam War. Dialogue: 0,0:10:55.50,0:10:57.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My father made false papers for the American deserters Dialogue: 0,0:10:57.80,0:11:01.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who did not wish to take up arms against the Vietnamese. Dialogue: 0,0:11:01.00,0:11:03.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Europe was not spared either. Dialogue: 0,0:11:03.00,0:11:05.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My father made false papers for the dissidents Dialogue: 0,0:11:05.14,0:11:08.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,against Franco in Spain, Salazar in Portugal, Dialogue: 0,0:11:08.90,0:11:13.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,against the colonels' dictatorship in Greece, Dialogue: 0,0:11:13.89,0:11:15.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and even in France. Dialogue: 0,0:11:15.60,0:11:18.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There, just once, it happened in May of 1968. Dialogue: 0,0:11:18.76,0:11:21.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My father watched, benevolently, of course, Dialogue: 0,0:11:21.40,0:11:24.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the demonstrations of the month of May, Dialogue: 0,0:11:24.20,0:11:26.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but his heart was elsewhere, and so was his time Dialogue: 0,0:11:26.50,0:11:30.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because he had over 15 countries to serve. Dialogue: 0,0:11:30.00,0:11:32.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Once, though, he agreed to make false papers Dialogue: 0,0:11:32.37,0:11:34.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for someone you might recognize. Dialogue: 0,0:11:34.31,0:11:37.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:11:37.23,0:11:38.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He was much younger in those days, Dialogue: 0,0:11:38.85,0:11:41.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and my father agreed to make false papers Dialogue: 0,0:11:41.00,0:11:44.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to enable him to come back and speak at a meeting. Dialogue: 0,0:11:44.04,0:11:49.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He told me that those false papers were the most media-relevant Dialogue: 0,0:11:49.00,0:11:52.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the least useful he'd had to make in all his life. Dialogue: 0,0:11:52.50,0:11:54.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But, he agreed to do it, Dialogue: 0,0:11:54.00,0:11:57.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,even though Daniel Cohn-Bendit's life was not in danger, Dialogue: 0,0:11:57.40,0:11:59.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just because Dialogue: 0,0:11:59.60,0:12:01.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it was a good opportunity Dialogue: 0,0:12:01.00,0:12:03.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to mock the authorities, Dialogue: 0,0:12:03.48,0:12:06.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and to show them that there's nothing more porous than borders -- Dialogue: 0,0:12:06.50,0:12:11.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that ideas have no borders. Dialogue: 0,0:12:11.00,0:12:13.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All my childhood, Dialogue: 0,0:12:13.00,0:12:17.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,while my friends' dads would tell them Grimm's fairy tales, Dialogue: 0,0:12:17.10,0:12:20.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,my father would tell me stories about very unassuming heroes Dialogue: 0,0:12:20.99,0:12:23.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with unshakeable utopias Dialogue: 0,0:12:23.90,0:12:26.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who managed to make miracles. Dialogue: 0,0:12:26.82,0:12:30.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And those heroes did not need an army behind them. Dialogue: 0,0:12:30.80,0:12:33.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Anyhow, nobody would have followed them, Dialogue: 0,0:12:33.30,0:12:36.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,except for a handful [of] men and women of conviction and courage. Dialogue: 0,0:12:36.55,0:12:37.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I understood much later Dialogue: 0,0:12:37.80,0:12:41.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that actually it was his own story my father would tell me to get me to sleep. Dialogue: 0,0:12:41.41,0:12:44.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I asked him whether, considering the sacrifices he had to make, Dialogue: 0,0:12:44.32,0:12:46.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he ever had any regrets. Dialogue: 0,0:12:46.27,0:12:48.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He said no. Dialogue: 0,0:12:48.00,0:12:50.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He told me that he would have been unable Dialogue: 0,0:12:50.16,0:12:53.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to witness or submit to injustice without doing anything. Dialogue: 0,0:12:53.08,0:12:56.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He was persuaded, and he's still convinced Dialogue: 0,0:12:56.10,0:12:58.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that another world is possible -- Dialogue: 0,0:12:58.30,0:13:01.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a world where no one would ever need a forger. Dialogue: 0,0:13:01.30,0:13:03.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He's still dreaming about it. Dialogue: 0,0:13:03.30,0:13:04.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My father Dialogue: 0,0:13:04.74,0:13:06.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is here in the room today. Dialogue: 0,0:13:06.50,0:13:10.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,His name is Adolfo Kaminsky and I'm going to ask him to stand up. Dialogue: 0,0:13:10.58,0:13:30.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Applause) Dialogue: 0,0:13:31.00,0:13:34.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you.