WEBVTT 00:00:29.200 --> 00:00:33.380 I don’t quite know how to begin these talks. 00:00:40.600 --> 00:00:48.270 As there are going to be six talks and seven discussions, 00:00:50.500 --> 00:00:55.430 I’d like to point out, if I may, 00:00:57.900 --> 00:01:06.790 that we are going to think over together our problems. 00:01:08.500 --> 00:01:13.590 We’re going to use reason, clear thinking, 00:01:15.000 --> 00:01:24.500 and not any kind of assertive beliefs, opinions, judgements, 00:01:24.800 --> 00:01:30.140 or any form of conclusion. 00:01:33.700 --> 00:01:36.740 And, therefore, it becomes rather serious. 00:01:40.800 --> 00:01:43.120 It’s not an entertainment, 00:01:44.300 --> 00:01:49.010 a morning off or an afternoon, Saturday and Sunday, 00:01:49.500 --> 00:01:59.760 but, rather, a serious gathering to consider, very deeply, 00:02:00.200 --> 00:02:07.010 the many human conflicts, problems, sorrows, pleasures, fears, 00:02:07.500 --> 00:02:11.500 and the nature of meditation and so on. 00:02:11.600 --> 00:02:16.510 We’re going to go into all these talks, into all these matters. 00:02:16.700 --> 00:02:20.050 But, first, I’d like to point out, if I may, 00:02:20.800 --> 00:02:24.930 the speaker is not trying to convince you of anything. 00:02:25.800 --> 00:02:27.740 Please believe it. 00:02:29.500 --> 00:02:33.700 He’s not persuading you to think along his particular line. 00:02:33.800 --> 00:02:36.420 Again, please believe it. 00:02:37.000 --> 00:02:43.320 He’s not offering a particular set of ideologies, 00:02:44.000 --> 00:02:47.100 nor beliefs, nor conclusions, 00:02:48.200 --> 00:02:51.100 because these have separated the world, 00:02:51.200 --> 00:02:55.170 human beings, one against the other. 00:02:57.000 --> 00:03:01.400 So, we’re not in any way concerned with any of those matters, 00:03:01.500 --> 00:03:08.390 neither belief, conclusion, opinions or judgements. 00:03:10.300 --> 00:03:16.500 But we are going together, and we mean together, 00:03:16.600 --> 00:03:25.840 you and the speaker, carefully, objectively, 00:03:28.800 --> 00:03:31.800 to look what is happening around us, 00:03:32.000 --> 00:03:39.260 not romantically, not sentimentally, but just to observe, 00:03:39.700 --> 00:03:45.800 without any conclusion, without offering any opinion, 00:03:45.900 --> 00:03:56.100 but just to look and reason together, think over together. 00:03:56.200 --> 00:04:02.010 And I think it’s very important to understand that word ‘together.’ 00:04:06.900 --> 00:04:13.120 Most of us are accustomed to go to meetings or gatherings of this kind, 00:04:15.300 --> 00:04:23.180 either to accept what the speaker is saying or to reject, 00:04:23.300 --> 00:04:27.530 one opinion or one idea against another, 00:04:28.900 --> 00:04:37.550 or persuade you, through clever argumentation, 00:04:39.300 --> 00:04:43.840 to follow or accept what he’s saying. 00:04:45.400 --> 00:04:52.100 And, therefore, we are thinking together over these problems, 00:04:52.200 --> 00:04:54.500 sharing together. 00:04:57.400 --> 00:05:00.300 And this is really very important to understand, 00:05:00.400 --> 00:05:02.560 if I may go on with it, 00:05:03.600 --> 00:05:10.800 because one is apt to listen as though somebody was talking out there, 00:05:10.900 --> 00:05:16.130 and you’re casually accepting or denying. 00:05:16.300 --> 00:05:20.900 So, it seems to me, that’s your responsibility, 00:05:22.590 --> 00:05:23.700 responsibility being 00:05:23.800 --> 00:05:33.650 that you undertake, seriously, to think together, 00:05:34.200 --> 00:05:41.100 to find out the accurate, true solutions to these problems 00:05:41.200 --> 00:05:45.670 that we human beings are tormented with. 00:05:48.400 --> 00:05:53.100 So, it behoves, on the part of each one of us, 00:05:54.210 --> 00:06:02.710 that reasoning, 00:06:03.200 --> 00:06:12.020 the capacity to think logically, sanely, wholly, 00:06:12.100 --> 00:06:14.740 becomes very important. 00:06:15.900 --> 00:06:23.800 We’re apt to think anything that’s the product of reason, clear thinking, 00:06:23.900 --> 00:06:31.960 is too intellectual and, therefore, not for each one of us. 00:06:32.700 --> 00:06:42.690 But on the contrary, I feel if we can think, observe, reason together, 00:06:42.700 --> 00:06:51.900 putting aside our personal conclusions, opinions, evaluations, 00:06:52.000 --> 00:06:55.660 what we like and what we don’t like, 00:06:56.100 --> 00:06:59.220 what we’re attracted to and so on, 00:06:59.230 --> 00:07:02.640 if we can put aside all those things, 00:07:03.000 --> 00:07:12.210 and are able to think together, deeply, sanely, 00:07:13.300 --> 00:07:17.680 that is, objectively, wholly, 00:07:18.400 --> 00:07:29.320 then, I think, we shall be able to deeply transform ourselves. 00:07:32.800 --> 00:07:38.000 Because, when one goes round the world, as the speaker does, 00:07:38.200 --> 00:07:42.050 from India, Europe, and here, 00:07:44.400 --> 00:07:55.390 one sees great sorrow, wars, violence, 00:07:56.900 --> 00:08:05.500 all kinds of stupidities, terrorism, killing, drugs. 00:08:05.600 --> 00:08:09.310 You know what is happening, as well as I do. 00:08:10.700 --> 00:08:19.100 And we’re accepting these, as though they’re inevitable. 00:08:20.900 --> 00:08:26.740 And, as most of us are traditionally minded, 00:08:30.400 --> 00:08:37.650 we naturally and easily put up with these things. 00:08:37.659 --> 00:08:40.919 Or we revolt against them. 00:08:44.800 --> 00:08:48.520 But that revolt is a reaction, 00:08:49.100 --> 00:08:55.570 like Communism is a reaction to Capitalism, or Fascism. 00:08:56.700 --> 00:09:06.900 So, without revolt, without going against something, 00:09:07.000 --> 00:09:10.400 and forming our own little group or communes, 00:09:10.500 --> 00:09:15.210 or following a particular guru or another guru, 00:09:15.500 --> 00:09:18.440 from India, or from this country, 00:09:19.700 --> 00:09:27.310 and they are bursting like mushrooms all over the world, these gurus, 00:09:28.800 --> 00:09:30.720 unfortunately. 00:09:32.400 --> 00:09:40.040 But, if we could, without accepting any kind of authority, 00:09:45.900 --> 00:09:50.290 because in spiritual matters there is no authority, 00:09:50.800 --> 00:09:56.550 there is no guru, there is no priest, there are no sanctions. 00:09:59.000 --> 00:10:00.600 And this is very important to understand 00:10:00.700 --> 00:10:03.400 if we are going to go, together, 00:10:03.500 --> 00:10:09.500 investigating into all these problems that we human beings have had, 00:10:09.600 --> 00:10:15.140 centuries upon centuries, generation after generation. 00:10:16.500 --> 00:10:23.540 So, first, if one may point out, there is no authority here. 00:10:27.500 --> 00:10:33.000 We are friends, two friends, talking over together 00:10:33.400 --> 00:10:40.810 our conflicts, our uncertainties, our travail, 00:10:41.100 --> 00:10:47.100 the things that we human beings go through in our life, 00:10:47.200 --> 00:10:53.600 and end in death, without understanding what it is all about, 00:10:53.700 --> 00:10:58.200 or committed to a particular action, thinking that it will solve 00:10:58.300 --> 00:11:04.720 all our human conflicts and miseries and fears. 00:11:05.800 --> 00:11:11.580 When that is clearly and definitely understood, 00:11:12.000 --> 00:11:20.380 that there is no authority, the speaker has no authority whatsoever, 00:11:20.700 --> 00:11:23.600 though he may be sitting on a platform, 00:11:23.700 --> 00:11:29.600 because that’s merely for convenience, so that we can all see each other. 00:11:29.700 --> 00:11:35.780 But a little height doesn’t give him any authority. 00:11:36.900 --> 00:11:41.400 And so, don’t put him into authority, 00:11:41.500 --> 00:11:44.900 place him into, give him authority. 00:11:46.100 --> 00:11:55.100 And I really mean this, because in psychological matters 00:11:55.200 --> 00:12:00.190 which we are going to investigate, very deeply together, 00:12:01.200 --> 00:12:09.200 there is no authority, whether it is the European psychologists 00:12:09.300 --> 00:12:11.500 or the modern psychologists 00:12:11.600 --> 00:12:18.870 or the gurus or the books, or the saviours, ancient or modern, 00:12:20.300 --> 00:12:24.580 in that field of psychology to accept authority, 00:12:24.670 --> 00:12:32.040 is to deny clarity, clear thinking, logic 00:12:33.110 --> 00:12:37.600 and to be sane and, therefore, whole. 00:12:37.700 --> 00:12:43.510 The word ‘whole’ implies having good health, 00:12:45.000 --> 00:12:52.900 having sanity, and also it implies h-o-l-y, holy. 00:12:53.000 --> 00:12:57.800 So, when we use the word ‘whole,’ holistic, 00:12:57.900 --> 00:13:03.530 it implies all that – health, sanity, clarity, 00:13:03.600 --> 00:13:08.410 and that which is holy, complete. 00:13:11.600 --> 00:13:17.200 So, as we were saying, in the psychological field, 00:13:17.300 --> 00:13:19.400 as there is no authority, 00:13:19.500 --> 00:13:27.570 we are putting aside all that people have told us 00:13:27.800 --> 00:13:31.580 – if you can – which is very difficult, 00:13:31.900 --> 00:13:38.650 and examine, step by step, again, if we can, 00:13:38.860 --> 00:13:45.940 into the enormous problem of existence, of our daily living. 00:13:49.400 --> 00:13:53.670 Psychologically, inwardly, 00:13:58.400 --> 00:14:07.400 we human beings, wherever we are, are the world, psychologically. 00:14:08.300 --> 00:14:15.300 The world is us, the world is me and I am the world. 00:14:15.800 --> 00:14:21.960 And that is a psychological, absolute fact. 00:14:23.000 --> 00:14:28.500 Though you may have white skin, brown skin or black skin 00:14:28.600 --> 00:14:35.720 or whatever it is, outwardly, affluent, rich, prosperous, 00:14:35.730 --> 00:14:39.710 many cars, all the rest of it. 00:14:39.910 --> 00:14:42.700 Or you may be very poor, 00:14:43.100 --> 00:14:48.200 but inwardly, deep down, we’re all the same. 00:14:48.300 --> 00:14:58.900 We suffer, we’re lonely, we’re in sorrow, conflict, 00:14:59.000 --> 00:15:06.300 misery, confusion, depending on somebody to tell us what to do, 00:15:08.300 --> 00:15:11.820 how to think, what to think. 00:15:12.400 --> 00:15:15.290 We are slaves to propaganda, 00:15:17.600 --> 00:15:22.920 from the various churches and various religions, sects 00:15:23.000 --> 00:15:25.500 – that’s what’s happening, all over the world, 00:15:25.600 --> 00:15:33.100 not only politically, by the experts, by the governments and so on, 00:15:33.200 --> 00:15:41.120 but inwardly, deep down, we are slaves to propaganda, 00:15:41.400 --> 00:15:44.500 we are conditioned human beings, 00:15:44.600 --> 00:15:48.500 whether we live in India, America or here. 00:15:50.200 --> 00:15:55.490 I hope that one realises that, not intellectually, 00:15:55.700 --> 00:15:58.910 not verbally, because that has very little meaning, 00:15:59.700 --> 00:16:04.940 but actually see the fact of it, 00:16:05.700 --> 00:16:14.070 that you, living in America, with all the riches, marvellous country, 00:16:14.200 --> 00:16:22.500 crazy people, drug-minded, you know, all that’s happening in this country, 00:16:22.600 --> 00:16:25.880 the violence, the brutality, 00:16:26.200 --> 00:16:33.390 the divisive communes, based on their beliefs and so on. 00:16:33.900 --> 00:16:38.500 But, when you sweep all that aside, put all that aside, 00:16:38.600 --> 00:16:41.540 whether here or in India or in Europe, 00:16:41.700 --> 00:16:51.260 we go through the same mill of misfortune, uncertainty, deep sorrow. 00:16:53.900 --> 00:16:59.430 So, we are actually, psychologically, the world, 00:17:00.300 --> 00:17:02.760 and the world is you. 00:17:03.900 --> 00:17:13.710 Once you realise this fact, not verbally, not ideologically, 00:17:15.599 --> 00:17:26.270 or as a statement of fact, but actually, deeply feel the fact, 00:17:28.300 --> 00:17:36.800 realise the fact, that you are not different from the other, 00:17:36.900 --> 00:17:40.600 however far away he is – inwardly – 00:17:40.700 --> 00:17:47.600 because he suffers enormously, he’s terribly frightened, 00:17:47.700 --> 00:17:51.700 uncertain, insecure, 00:17:52.100 --> 00:17:58.350 both physiologically, as well as psychologically. 00:18:00.900 --> 00:18:03.720 And, when you realise that, 00:18:04.200 --> 00:18:07.900 and in examination of that realisation 00:18:08.000 --> 00:18:10.700 you’re not concerned with your little self, 00:18:10.800 --> 00:18:15.000 you’re concerned with the total human being. 00:18:15.200 --> 00:18:17.030 You understand this? 00:18:19.800 --> 00:18:26.710 With the total humanity, which is you, because you are the world. 00:18:27.500 --> 00:18:32.700 So, when we are talking about these matters, 00:18:32.800 --> 00:18:36.080 we are concerned with the human being, 00:18:38.400 --> 00:18:41.600 not with Mr X or Y or somebody else, 00:18:41.700 --> 00:18:48.000 because he’s the total psychological entity, as a human being, 00:18:48.100 --> 00:18:50.710 wherever he lives. 00:18:51.000 --> 00:18:55.910 I hope this is clear. This is factual. 00:18:56.200 --> 00:18:59.000 You may be conditioned in a particular way, 00:18:59.100 --> 00:19:03.400 you may be Catholic, a Protestant, God knows what else you are, 00:19:03.500 --> 00:19:11.680 Baptists and, you know, Jesus-minded – you’re conditioned. 00:19:12.100 --> 00:19:14.700 And in India, it is the same, 00:19:14.800 --> 00:19:22.400 they are conditioned by thousands of years of certain kinds of beliefs, 00:19:22.500 --> 00:19:28.200 superstitions, ideas, gods and all the rest of it. 00:19:28.700 --> 00:19:37.000 But, below that conditioning, in the depth of their human mind, 00:19:37.100 --> 00:19:40.800 when they’re alone, when they are facing life, 00:19:40.900 --> 00:19:47.100 there is sorrow, there is pain, there is grief, there is anxiety. 00:19:50.400 --> 00:19:55.370 So, you are the world and the world is you. 00:19:58.300 --> 00:20:05.390 And, when one sees that as an actual, irrevocable fact, 00:20:07.600 --> 00:20:12.260 then you begin to think entirely differently, 00:20:13.400 --> 00:20:15.740 then you begin to observe, 00:20:15.900 --> 00:20:25.900 not as a person, individual having troubles and anxieties, 00:20:26.000 --> 00:20:30.800 but the whole entire humanity is having it. 00:20:30.900 --> 00:20:34.200 Then it gives you an extraordinary strength. 00:20:34.300 --> 00:20:39.650 I don’t know if you follow all this. It gives you extraordinary vitality. 00:20:40.300 --> 00:20:45.100 Then you are not alone, you are the entire history of mankind, 00:20:45.200 --> 00:20:49.300 if you know how to read that book, which is you. 00:20:49.400 --> 00:20:51.780 And that’s what we are going to do, 00:20:52.300 --> 00:20:58.660 we’re going to read, together, the history of mankind, 00:20:58.800 --> 00:21:03.400 enshrined in you, as a human being. 00:21:08.200 --> 00:21:17.290 This is not rhetoric, this is not a verbal explosion, 00:21:20.400 --> 00:21:26.560 but a serious factor we’re deeply concerned with, 00:21:28.400 --> 00:21:35.800 a fact which we deny, because we think we are so individualistic, 00:21:35.900 --> 00:21:42.140 we are so concerned with ourselves, with our petty little problems, 00:21:42.700 --> 00:21:45.870 with our little gurus, with our little beliefs. 00:21:47.800 --> 00:21:53.620 But when you realise an extraordinary fact, 00:21:55.600 --> 00:22:00.170 then it gives you tremendous strength, 00:22:03.400 --> 00:22:10.900 a great urgency to investigate and transform oneself 00:22:11.000 --> 00:22:14.000 because you are mankind. 00:22:14.300 --> 00:22:17.330 And, when there is such transformation, 00:22:17.500 --> 00:22:21.320 you affect the whole consciousness of man. 00:22:22.200 --> 00:22:24.410 I don’t know if you realise this. 00:22:28.800 --> 00:22:34.200 You actually affect the whole consciousness of man 00:22:34.300 --> 00:22:39.390 because you are the entire humanity, 00:22:40.100 --> 00:22:45.400 and, when you change, fundamentally, deeply, 00:22:45.500 --> 00:22:49.100 when there is psychological revolution in you, 00:22:50.500 --> 00:23:00.100 then, naturally, as you are part of that consciousness of a human being 00:23:00.200 --> 00:23:04.000 which is the rest of the humanity, 00:23:06.300 --> 00:23:09.560 the consciousness of the world is affected. 00:23:12.400 --> 00:23:15.830 You see the reason of this, the logic of this? 00:23:18.400 --> 00:23:25.700 Your consciousness is affected by the various prophets, 00:23:25.710 --> 00:23:33.670 the various warmongers: Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin, 00:23:34.000 --> 00:23:38.940 you know, all these people have affected mankind, 00:23:41.800 --> 00:23:44.120 but we’re not aware of it. 00:23:47.100 --> 00:23:51.810 And, what we’re going to do together, during these talks, 00:23:53.000 --> 00:24:01.710 is to penetrate the layers of our consciousness, 00:24:06.900 --> 00:24:10.710 and investigate whether it is possible 00:24:11.100 --> 00:24:17.590 to transform the content of our consciousness 00:24:20.200 --> 00:24:26.200 and out of that, a different dimension of energy and clarity 00:24:26.300 --> 00:24:30.190 may come into being. That’s what we’re concerned with, 00:24:32.200 --> 00:24:40.620 and therefore it’s a serious matter, not to be played with. 00:24:41.000 --> 00:24:44.600 If you’re not interested, if you are not serious, 00:24:44.700 --> 00:24:47.410 don’t waste your time coming here. 00:24:48.300 --> 00:24:52.870 It’s a waste of your energy, and I really mean it, 00:24:53.400 --> 00:24:56.510 because this is very, very, very serious, 00:25:01.700 --> 00:25:12.220 and it is voluntary, not a thing that you are persuaded or rewarded, 00:25:13.700 --> 00:25:18.810 because our conditioning is reward and punishment. 00:25:20.800 --> 00:25:24.600 But, in investigating our consciousness, 00:25:24.700 --> 00:25:28.750 which is the entire consciousness of mankind, 00:25:35.900 --> 00:25:40.680 we are delving into ourselves, 00:25:41.600 --> 00:25:47.550 and from there discover, come upon what is truth. 00:25:48.800 --> 00:25:54.190 Having laid that, said all that, which is necessary, 00:25:55.600 --> 00:25:57.900 which is, probably, one of the most important things, 00:25:58.000 --> 00:26:01.570 which is the first step and, therefore, the last step, 00:26:05.400 --> 00:26:12.500 let us begin by investigating what human beings demand, 00:26:12.600 --> 00:26:19.200 what human beings basically, fundamentally, inwardly demand, ask. 00:26:23.500 --> 00:26:31.500 Which is, what is it that, as a human being, 00:26:31.600 --> 00:26:35.460 who is the representative of the world, 00:26:36.700 --> 00:26:42.850 and therefore he is the world – psychologically – 00:26:43.000 --> 00:26:49.030 what is the most, innermost demand of such a human being? 00:26:51.500 --> 00:26:54.310 Don’t answer me, please. 00:26:54.550 --> 00:27:00.810 This is a question we have put, so that we can think about it together. 00:27:09.200 --> 00:27:15.520 Most human beings, in one part of their consciousness, 00:27:16.100 --> 00:27:24.000 want to find both biological, physiological, 00:27:24.100 --> 00:27:29.230 as well as psychological security. 00:27:32.900 --> 00:27:36.590 Because you must have food, clothes and shelter. 00:27:36.600 --> 00:27:39.390 That’s an absolute necessity. 00:27:42.100 --> 00:27:48.400 But also, we want, we demand, we crave, 00:27:48.500 --> 00:27:53.880 we search for psychological security. 00:27:59.800 --> 00:28:06.830 To be psychologically certain about everything. 00:28:09.200 --> 00:28:12.690 Look into yourself, observe, 00:28:14.700 --> 00:28:21.000 use the speaker, if I may point out, as a mirror. 00:28:21.700 --> 00:28:27.400 The words which he’s using are merely description, 00:28:27.500 --> 00:28:32.210 but the description is not the described. 00:28:33.600 --> 00:28:39.600 Right? Therefore, you are looking at yourself 00:28:39.700 --> 00:28:45.200 and finding out what is the innermost demand that you want, 00:28:45.300 --> 00:28:48.120 that human beings want. 00:28:49.300 --> 00:28:52.100 And this whole struggle in the world, 00:28:52.200 --> 00:28:58.100 both psychologically, as well as physiologically, 00:28:58.200 --> 00:29:02.190 is to find security. 00:29:03.800 --> 00:29:05.300 No? 00:29:07.100 --> 00:29:12.880 The word ‘security’ means to be secure, 00:29:13.400 --> 00:29:22.120 your physical permanency, physically to be well, 00:29:23.100 --> 00:29:29.900 physically to continue, advance, grow, whatever it is 00:29:30.000 --> 00:29:39.120 – and psychologically, inwardly, to find security, 00:29:39.300 --> 00:29:44.300 to find something that is permanent, 00:29:47.100 --> 00:29:51.900 because everything, psychologically, if you observe very carefully, 00:29:52.000 --> 00:29:54.810 is very impermanent. 00:30:06.700 --> 00:30:12.490 Your relationships, psychologically, are terribly uncertain. 00:30:14.000 --> 00:30:18.600 You may be temporarily secure in your relationship with another, 00:30:18.700 --> 00:30:22.270 man, woman and all the rest of it, temporarily. 00:30:23.000 --> 00:30:27.300 But that very temporary security is the very danger 00:30:27.400 --> 00:30:31.670 of it being, becoming, completely insecure. 00:30:35.000 --> 00:30:40.260 Do please examine it. Don’t accept it. 00:30:41.400 --> 00:30:47.150 We are thinking over, together, we are reasoning. 00:30:48.000 --> 00:30:53.590 To see the logic, the reason, the sanity of it, 00:30:53.900 --> 00:30:57.680 not because the speaker asserts it, 00:30:58.000 --> 00:31:01.940 not because he has some beastly reputation, 00:31:03.400 --> 00:31:05.400 because all those things are irrelevant 00:31:05.500 --> 00:31:10.300 when you are really going into something very, very serious. 00:31:15.700 --> 00:31:23.510 So, one asks, is there any security, psychologically, at all? 00:31:31.000 --> 00:31:40.260 That is, one seeks psychological security in the family. 00:31:42.100 --> 00:31:44.700 We’ll go step by step into it 00:31:44.800 --> 00:31:50.860 – in the family, the family being the wife, the children. 00:31:54.500 --> 00:32:05.800 There you try to find in the wife, a relationship that will be secure, 00:32:05.900 --> 00:32:12.390 lasting, permanent, permanent being relatively, 00:32:12.400 --> 00:32:14.850 because there is always death. 00:32:16.500 --> 00:32:25.000 And, not always finding it, there are divorces, quarrels 00:32:25.100 --> 00:32:31.100 and all the misery, jealousies, anger, hatred that goes on. 00:32:32.300 --> 00:32:36.030 You must be aware of all this, aren’t you? 00:32:41.200 --> 00:32:48.540 And also, one tries to find security in a community, 00:32:49.000 --> 00:32:55.160 with a group of people, with the communes, large or small. 00:32:55.300 --> 00:32:59.890 One tries to find security in the world, a nation. 00:33:02.100 --> 00:33:04.800 I’m an American, I’m a Hindu, 00:33:04.900 --> 00:33:08.900 that gives a tremendous sense of being identified with a group 00:33:09.000 --> 00:33:11.690 and, therefore, secure. 00:33:13.400 --> 00:33:21.320 Do, please, as we said, listen to it, not reject it. 00:33:22.800 --> 00:33:27.400 There may be reason behind it, or there might not, 00:33:27.500 --> 00:33:40.250 but a serious man examines, doesn’t reject or accept. 00:33:42.700 --> 00:33:50.150 And so, when you try to find security psychologically in a nation, 00:33:52.400 --> 00:33:57.230 and, therefore, that nation is different from another nation, 00:34:00.100 --> 00:34:03.640 naturally, there is division 00:34:04.700 --> 00:34:09.300 and, where there is division between nations, 00:34:09.400 --> 00:34:15.389 in which you have invested, psychologically, your security, 00:34:16.500 --> 00:34:23.699 there are wars, there are economic pressures, divisions. 00:34:23.800 --> 00:34:28.650 That’s what is actually going on in the world. Right? 00:34:30.400 --> 00:34:36.900 And, if you seek security in ideologies 00:34:37.000 --> 00:34:43.300 – communist ideology, the capitalist ideology, religious ideologies, 00:34:43.400 --> 00:34:50.679 conclusions, images, crosses and all the rest of it, all over the world, 00:34:52.699 --> 00:34:56.900 again, that is divisive, there is division. 00:34:57.000 --> 00:35:02.800 You believe in one set of ideals which you like, 00:35:02.900 --> 00:35:07.200 which give you comfort, in which you seek security, 00:35:07.300 --> 00:35:12.500 with a group of people who believe the same kind of nonsense. 00:35:12.600 --> 00:35:16.300 And another group believe in other things, 00:35:16.400 --> 00:35:20.010 and the same thing – people are divided. 00:35:21.000 --> 00:35:24.270 Religions have divided people. 00:35:27.000 --> 00:35:30.200 The Christians, the Buddhists, the Hindus, the Muslims, 00:35:30.300 --> 00:35:35.700 you know, the Baptists, divide, again they’re at each other, 00:35:35.800 --> 00:35:40.700 each believing something extraordinary, romantic, 00:35:40.800 --> 00:35:45.760 which is unrealistic, unreal, not factual. 00:35:47.600 --> 00:36:01.900 So, seeing all this, not as a theory, not as something to be avoided 00:36:03.400 --> 00:36:07.100 or becoming supercilious or intellectual, 00:36:07.200 --> 00:36:10.200 or being attached emotionally, 00:36:10.500 --> 00:36:14.500 but seeing all this, very clearly, 00:36:14.800 --> 00:36:22.020 one asks, is there psychological security at all? 00:36:24.500 --> 00:36:28.120 Right? You understand my question? 00:36:32.800 --> 00:36:40.050 And, if there is no psychological security, then what is a human being? 00:36:40.060 --> 00:36:42.400 It becomes a chaos. 00:36:42.500 --> 00:36:46.400 Right? He loses his identity, 00:36:46.500 --> 00:36:50.800 because he’s identified with America, he’s identified with Jesus, 00:36:50.900 --> 00:36:52.790 he’s identified with the Buddha, 00:36:52.800 --> 00:36:56.920 he’s identified with a nation and so on and so on. 00:36:57.000 --> 00:37:02.440 When reason, logic, says how absurd all this is! 00:37:09.800 --> 00:37:20.300 Then does one go into despair or – please listen to this – 00:37:20.400 --> 00:37:30.600 or, because you have observed the fallacy of these divisive processes, 00:37:30.700 --> 00:37:41.070 the unreality of these fictions, myths, fantasies which have no basis, 00:37:41.750 --> 00:37:45.320 and the very perception of that, 00:37:46.400 --> 00:37:50.000 is that not intelligence? 00:37:51.700 --> 00:37:54.800 Right? You understand...? 00:37:56.400 --> 00:38:01.070 Not the intelligence of a clever, cunning mind, 00:38:02.900 --> 00:38:08.700 not the intelligence of book knowledge, 00:38:09.600 --> 00:38:16.950 but the intelligence which comes out of clear observation. 00:38:19.600 --> 00:38:21.310 Right? 00:38:22.200 --> 00:38:27.900 In that observation, which brings about extraordinary intelligence, 00:38:28.000 --> 00:38:30.420 there is security, 00:38:30.500 --> 00:38:36.490 therefore, that means that very intelligence is secure. 00:38:37.700 --> 00:38:40.110 Have you understood this? 00:38:42.000 --> 00:38:49.000 No, please, you must have it, not agree with me, 00:38:49.100 --> 00:38:53.280 or say, ‘Yes, how extraordinary, I didn’t think of that before,’ 00:38:55.800 --> 00:38:59.900 but it must be part of you, it must be you that are finding it, 00:39:00.000 --> 00:39:02.100 not me that have found it and tell you 00:39:02.200 --> 00:39:04.780 and therefore you accept it or reject it. 00:39:05.600 --> 00:39:07.830 You see the difference? 00:39:11.900 --> 00:39:16.000 As we said at the beginning, I’m not out to, 00:39:16.100 --> 00:39:20.200 the speaker is not out to convince you of anything 00:39:20.300 --> 00:39:22.350 I’m not a propagandist – 00:39:24.640 --> 00:39:30.300 I don’t want you to think as I think, because I don’t think at all. 00:39:33.000 --> 00:39:34.920 And I mean it. 00:39:37.300 --> 00:39:44.450 We’ll go into that later on, because that is an extraordinary fact, 00:39:44.800 --> 00:39:48.960 the capacity to observe without thought, 00:39:53.600 --> 00:39:59.520 therefore, in that observation, have a tremendous insight, 00:40:02.500 --> 00:40:06.200 and that insight is supreme intelligence, 00:40:06.300 --> 00:40:09.320 and that intelligence acts 00:40:10.600 --> 00:40:12.000 – which we’ll go into, 00:40:12.100 --> 00:40:17.770 when we are discussing the whole structure and the nature of thought. 00:40:19.700 --> 00:40:29.960 But, as most of us will not let go, will not, 00:40:30.400 --> 00:40:36.480 are so frightened to let go and not finding security. 00:40:37.200 --> 00:40:39.500 You understand? I can let go, 00:40:39.600 --> 00:40:43.400 one can let go being a Catholic, Protestant, Communist, 00:40:43.500 --> 00:40:47.580 all the rest of that nonsense, very easily. 00:40:49.300 --> 00:40:55.630 But, when you do let go, when you cleanse yourself of all this, 00:40:56.100 --> 00:41:01.000 either you do it as a reaction, 00:41:02.300 --> 00:41:11.710 or you do it because you have observed, intelligently, holistically, 00:41:14.190 --> 00:41:16.600 with great clarity, 00:41:16.700 --> 00:41:21.400 the absurdity, the fantasies, the make-believes. 00:41:22.800 --> 00:41:29.550 And, because you observe without any distortion, 00:41:29.600 --> 00:41:32.500 because you’re not out to get something from it 00:41:32.600 --> 00:41:37.540 because you’re not thinking in terms of punishment and reward, 00:41:37.600 --> 00:41:41.380 because you observe very clearly, 00:41:41.500 --> 00:41:45.200 then that very clarity of perception is intelligence. 00:41:45.300 --> 00:41:49.590 In that there is extraordinary security, 00:41:49.700 --> 00:41:56.120 not that you become secure, but intelligence is secure. 00:42:03.200 --> 00:42:05.580 Are we meeting each other? 00:42:07.100 --> 00:42:10.000 Is there a communication between each other? 00:42:10.100 --> 00:42:14.380 Or is it merely a verbal communication? 00:42:17.000 --> 00:42:25.770 Communication verbally is necessary, to use the correct word 00:42:27.600 --> 00:42:32.600 and, unfortunately, in America the correct word is not being used 00:42:32.700 --> 00:42:37.000 – they use any old, sloppy word and think they convey. 00:42:37.100 --> 00:42:40.300 But we’re using correct words. 00:42:40.400 --> 00:42:48.500 And communication implies not only the usage 00:42:48.600 --> 00:42:51.400 and the comprehension on both sides, 00:42:51.500 --> 00:42:56.200 the meaning and the significance of the word, correctly, 00:42:56.300 --> 00:43:06.700 but also it implies that we share, share what is being said, 00:43:09.700 --> 00:43:18.130 which is the responsibility of sharing, partaking together. 00:43:20.200 --> 00:43:29.200 So, we are not merely communicating verbally, 00:43:29.300 --> 00:43:34.950 but also deeply sharing the fact: 00:43:35.500 --> 00:43:40.300 the fact being, the absolute fact, not relative fact, 00:43:40.400 --> 00:43:46.190 the absolute fact that there is no security 00:43:46.400 --> 00:43:52.770 in anything that man has invented, psychologically. 00:43:53.400 --> 00:44:01.610 All our religions are inventions, put together by thought. 00:44:04.400 --> 00:44:09.350 All our divisive endeavours, 00:44:09.600 --> 00:44:15.960 which come about when there are beliefs, dogmas, rituals, 00:44:17.600 --> 00:44:21.570 which is the whole substance of religion, 00:44:25.900 --> 00:44:36.700 when you see all this very clearly, not as an idea, but as a fact, 00:44:37.000 --> 00:44:42.100 then that very fact reveals the extraordinary quality of intelligence, 00:44:42.200 --> 00:44:49.340 in which there is complete, whole security. Right? 00:44:52.400 --> 00:45:00.100 I hope you see this fact of intelligence now, not tomorrow. 00:45:00.200 --> 00:45:03.990 Don’t go home and say, ‘I’ll think it over.’ 00:45:05.200 --> 00:45:10.090 When you think it over tomorrow, you’ve already distorted it. 00:45:12.000 --> 00:45:16.300 But we are thinking, together, now, 00:45:16.400 --> 00:45:22.100 using our reason, our capacity to think clearly. 00:45:25.600 --> 00:45:31.000 So, communication of the fact between you and the speaker is now, 00:45:31.100 --> 00:45:37.060 not eventually, not when it’s convenient for you. 00:45:37.300 --> 00:45:43.090 Then you have lost time, you have wasted days and months. 00:45:43.300 --> 00:45:49.130 You don’t do that when the house is on fire, you do act. 00:45:56.430 --> 00:46:06.900 So, when you are concerned, as we are, I hope, all of us together, 00:46:07.000 --> 00:46:13.900 when you are concerned, deeply, with the transformation of man, 00:46:14.800 --> 00:46:18.700 because man must radically transform 00:46:18.800 --> 00:46:24.280 – when I use the word ‘man,’ I’m also including the woman. 00:46:25.400 --> 00:46:30.500 We are not talking about equal rights, women and men, 00:46:30.600 --> 00:46:35.700 the Women’s Liberation, and all that. 00:46:35.800 --> 00:46:40.200 We are talking, when we say ‘man,’ man – woman. 00:46:40.300 --> 00:46:43.980 So, please, forgive if I use that word ‘man.’ 00:46:44.600 --> 00:46:50.580 Don’t write me letters, say, ‘Why don’t you also use ‘woman’?’ 00:46:51.100 --> 00:46:53.740 As it has been done – 00:46:57.900 --> 00:47:01.810 which means they are not really listening, 00:47:03.100 --> 00:47:08.180 which means they are not, they are still thinking partially. 00:47:10.700 --> 00:47:16.700 We are thinking together, holistically, as a whole, 00:47:16.800 --> 00:47:21.600 not you and I, separate human beings, thinking together, 00:47:21.700 --> 00:47:25.720 we are looking at something, together. 00:47:26.600 --> 00:47:33.000 You know, when you feel that we are doing something together 00:47:33.100 --> 00:47:40.000 there’s a great deal of care, there’s a great deal of attention, 00:47:40.100 --> 00:47:44.730 there’s a great sense of sympathy, affection. 00:47:45.500 --> 00:47:50.900 And I’m using that word in all that sense – together. 00:47:54.500 --> 00:48:00.100 So, in our consciousness, one of the factors 00:48:00.200 --> 00:48:05.500 is this demand and the search for psychological security. 00:48:05.600 --> 00:48:09.600 And, when we are seeking psychological security in nations, 00:48:09.700 --> 00:48:16.600 in beliefs, in gurus, in books, in ideas and so on, in leaders, 00:48:17.000 --> 00:48:21.300 then because it brings about division, 00:48:21.400 --> 00:48:26.560 therefore, physiologically, there are divisions 00:48:27.500 --> 00:48:31.000 – Hindu, Buddhist, different nation, Englishman, 00:48:31.100 --> 00:48:34.200 American, Dutch, German, you know – division. 00:48:34.300 --> 00:48:39.440 And, therefore, when there is psychological attachment 00:48:39.450 --> 00:48:41.960 to a belief, to a nation, 00:48:42.470 --> 00:48:48.650 there is insecurity, physiologically. You understand, sir? 00:48:50.240 --> 00:48:52.970 Isn’t that so? Isn’t that a fact? 00:48:53.700 --> 00:48:57.000 When I’m attached to India – I’m not – 00:48:57.100 --> 00:49:04.300 when I’m attached to India and all that nonsense which represents India, 00:49:04.400 --> 00:49:08.590 just the image, the romanticism, you know, all that bilge 00:49:09.800 --> 00:49:13.430 – so, when I’m attached to that, 00:49:13.600 --> 00:49:20.860 I separate myself from the rest of the world, psychologically, 00:49:21.300 --> 00:49:27.470 and, therefore, division invariably brings conflict. 00:49:27.900 --> 00:49:32.510 When there is division between man and woman – you understand? 00:49:32.520 --> 00:49:35.400 You are married, you’ve got all this misery in you. 00:49:35.500 --> 00:49:41.450 When there is division, there must be conflict, inevitably. 00:49:42.100 --> 00:49:45.650 That’s an absolute law. 00:49:47.500 --> 00:49:50.480 And this division is brought about 00:49:51.700 --> 00:49:56.820 by the attachment to psychological ideas. 00:49:59.700 --> 00:50:03.400 Therefore, there is poverty, 00:50:03.500 --> 00:50:08.200 degradation, wars, terror in the world, 00:50:08.300 --> 00:50:11.940 the world is becoming a dangerous place to live. 00:50:15.100 --> 00:50:22.000 So, is it possible then, for a human being, 00:50:22.100 --> 00:50:25.010 you, who are the world 00:50:27.100 --> 00:50:32.900 – please, that is the central issue in this matter – 00:50:33.000 --> 00:50:37.320 you are the world and the world is you. 00:50:40.100 --> 00:50:46.030 And the world out there and out here, inside, 00:50:48.300 --> 00:50:56.480 traditionally, has been conditioned to be a fragment 00:50:57.500 --> 00:50:58.950 – you understand? 00:50:59.050 --> 00:51:05.100 A fragment – American fragment, Indian fragment and so on, 00:51:05.200 --> 00:51:12.900 Catholic fragment – therefore, outwardly there is no peace. 00:51:13.700 --> 00:51:15.510 Right? 00:51:18.400 --> 00:51:21.900 And man cannot exist without peace, he cannot create, 00:51:22.000 --> 00:51:27.120 he cannot have affection, he cannot have compassion, love. 00:51:29.700 --> 00:51:32.000 All right? Shall I go on? 00:51:33.900 --> 00:51:42.820 So, part of this consciousness of man is the fact of the search 00:51:42.830 --> 00:51:49.700 and the demand and the attachment to a fragment, 00:51:49.800 --> 00:51:53.800 in which he hopes to find security. 00:51:53.900 --> 00:52:00.330 And to transform that fragment, 00:52:02.800 --> 00:52:08.600 in which man has invested, hoping to find security, 00:52:08.700 --> 00:52:11.700 to completely transform that, 00:52:11.800 --> 00:52:14.900 can only come about when there is intelligence, 00:52:15.000 --> 00:52:18.700 intelligence which is perception. I went into that. 00:52:18.800 --> 00:52:24.500 Right? Right, sir? Do you see it? 00:52:24.600 --> 00:52:27.300 And is there now, not tomorrow, 00:52:27.400 --> 00:52:31.300 not when you go home and think about it – then you’re lost – 00:52:31.400 --> 00:52:36.600 is there now, as you’re sitting there, listening, 00:52:37.800 --> 00:52:43.100 using your reason, capacity, energy, affection, care, and attention, 00:52:43.200 --> 00:52:47.950 is there that transformation taking place? 00:52:50.500 --> 00:52:51.800 Right, sir? 00:52:52.000 --> 00:52:56.480 If not, you’re not listening, 00:52:57.800 --> 00:53:03.490 you’re not exercising your capacity to think clearly. 00:53:07.500 --> 00:53:11.730 Or you’re caught in verbal images 00:53:17.900 --> 00:53:21.800 or in a symbol to which you are attached, 00:53:21.900 --> 00:53:26.970 because, if you let go that symbol, you’re frightened 00:53:28.900 --> 00:53:32.900 and, therefore, you’re lonely and all that begins. 00:53:33.000 --> 00:53:35.400 We’ll discuss fear later on. 00:53:35.500 --> 00:53:45.600 But, as we are listening together, reasoning together, 00:53:47.400 --> 00:53:50.250 gathering our energies, 00:53:50.760 --> 00:53:54.700 is there that transformation, 00:53:56.800 --> 00:54:02.000 which is the freedom, complete freedom 00:54:02.100 --> 00:54:14.300 from trying to find security in a fragment? 00:54:14.400 --> 00:54:16.390 You understand? 00:54:25.600 --> 00:54:32.260 Is there freedom? Please ask it, demand it, 00:54:36.100 --> 00:54:41.360 because we’re going to go into very complex matters. 00:54:41.400 --> 00:54:43.900 This is only just the beginning of it, 00:54:44.000 --> 00:54:48.900 because we’re going to, together 00:54:49.000 --> 00:54:53.250 go into this whole problem of what is consciousness, 00:54:57.400 --> 00:55:00.820 and the content of consciousness. 00:55:01.400 --> 00:55:05.710 Without the content, there is no consciousness. Right? 00:55:07.510 --> 00:55:10.260 You haven’t thought about these matters. 00:55:12.100 --> 00:55:16.260 Because part of the content of your consciousness, human consciousness, 00:55:16.270 --> 00:55:21.590 is this demand for security. Right? 00:55:24.700 --> 00:55:31.580 Security in God, which again is a word, a symbol, a belief, 00:55:32.200 --> 00:55:37.600 security in a nation, security in a group, security in a commune, 00:55:37.700 --> 00:55:42.720 security in the wife, the children, security in ideas, you know. 00:55:44.300 --> 00:55:47.360 That’s part of our consciousness. 00:55:48.600 --> 00:55:52.900 That consciousness has been put together 00:55:53.000 --> 00:55:56.000 through millennia upon millennia, 00:55:58.300 --> 00:56:00.740 which we call ‘evolution.’ 00:56:02.500 --> 00:56:08.090 A fragment cannot evolve, it will always remain a fragment. 00:56:08.400 --> 00:56:11.120 I wonder if you see this. 00:56:12.400 --> 00:56:15.800 A fragment cannot become the whole. 00:56:19.900 --> 00:56:26.900 So... What time is it, if I may ask? Audience: Five to twelve. 00:56:28.500 --> 00:56:30.850 K: You mean to say I’ve talked an hour and a half? 00:56:31.100 --> 00:56:34.400 A: No, an hour. K: Ah, an hour. Right. 00:56:35.900 --> 00:56:39.640 Can you bear some more of it? A: Yes. 00:56:41.400 --> 00:56:46.140 K: No, I’m not at all sure. Please... 00:56:54.300 --> 00:56:58.370 Because if you have listened for an hour, 00:56:59.100 --> 00:57:07.050 with great care, with attention, with sustained affection, 00:57:07.300 --> 00:57:09.670 do you know what that means? 00:57:12.280 --> 00:57:16.560 Then you are the universe. 00:57:18.700 --> 00:57:20.890 No, madam, no questions now. 00:57:20.900 --> 00:57:25.490 We’ll discuss these things... on Tuesday. 00:57:28.000 --> 00:57:31.500 So, part of our consciousness, 00:57:31.600 --> 00:57:34.510 which is the human consciousness of the world, 00:57:36.100 --> 00:57:42.200 a fragment of that consciousness is the demand and the search 00:57:42.300 --> 00:57:45.280 for psychological security. 00:57:49.500 --> 00:57:54.500 And that’s one of the fragments of the content of our consciousness. 00:57:54.600 --> 00:57:59.590 Therefore, the content makes for consciousness. 00:58:02.700 --> 00:58:08.250 See the truth of it, the reason of it. 00:58:09.600 --> 00:58:12.800 Part of one’s consciousness says, ‘I am an American, 00:58:12.900 --> 00:58:15.880 I am a Buddhist, I am this, I am that.’ 00:58:17.200 --> 00:58:21.490 Or I’ve identified myself with something or other. 00:58:22.100 --> 00:58:31.050 And this identification is the demand or the desire to find security 00:58:33.600 --> 00:58:38.400 – that security, either temporarily or permanently. 00:58:38.500 --> 00:58:41.590 There is no permanent security. 00:58:41.700 --> 00:58:47.880 And if there is temporary security, then that leads to havoc, 00:58:48.200 --> 00:58:50.610 as we pointed out. 00:58:52.100 --> 00:58:56.500 So, can you, as you have listened for an hour, 00:58:56.600 --> 00:58:59.100 with your heart and mind, 00:58:59.200 --> 00:59:07.890 can you actually be aware of the fact that you’re free of it? 00:59:13.500 --> 00:59:20.700 If you’re not, either you haven’t exercised your capacity to reason 00:59:20.800 --> 00:59:23.500 or to listen to somebody who says, 00:59:23.600 --> 00:59:26.980 ‘Do please, for God’s sake, look at this.’ 00:59:29.400 --> 00:59:31.740 And you won’t look. 00:59:35.300 --> 00:59:38.600 And if you don’t look, nobody’s going to persuade you, 00:59:38.700 --> 00:59:41.590 certainly not the speaker. 00:59:43.400 --> 00:59:49.200 Persuasion, propaganda, threats, 00:59:49.300 --> 00:59:54.640 offering you reward or punishment will never help you to look. 00:59:55.100 --> 01:00:00.530 If you look under compulsion, it is distorted. 01:00:02.400 --> 01:00:06.520 So can you, as a human being, 01:00:07.400 --> 01:00:10.600 after talking over together, for an hour, 01:00:10.700 --> 01:00:13.930 see this extraordinary fact 01:00:14.200 --> 01:00:20.000 and, seeing the fact and the reality of it, 01:00:20.300 --> 01:00:25.520 free part of that consciousness of the fragment 01:00:26.500 --> 01:00:31.020 which is the demand, the search for security? 01:00:32.600 --> 01:00:36.300 Therefore, the mind then becomes extraordinarily awakened. 01:00:36.400 --> 01:00:38.270 You understand? 01:00:38.800 --> 01:00:42.000 It can then go into the problem of fear 01:00:42.100 --> 01:00:44.000 – which we will tomorrow and so on – 01:00:44.100 --> 01:00:50.130 into the enormous content of our consciousness. 01:00:50.900 --> 01:00:58.600 And, ultimately, the question is: can the content be completely emptied? 01:00:58.700 --> 01:01:00.710 You understand, sir? 01:01:02.400 --> 01:01:08.990 Emptied so that – empty, not something else. 01:01:09.200 --> 01:01:11.990 That means, reward. 01:01:15.300 --> 01:01:18.500 So, we’ll stop today, if you don’t mind, 01:01:18.600 --> 01:01:20.800 because we’ve talked for an hour, 01:01:20.900 --> 01:01:25.000 and to listen for an hour about serious things is quite difficult 01:01:25.100 --> 01:01:27.200 – probably you’re not used to this kind of thing. 01:01:27.300 --> 01:01:30.430 I can go on but not you. 01:01:30.740 --> 01:01:36.870 So, if you don’t mind, we’ll stop and meet again tomorrow morning.