1 00:00:13,079 --> 00:00:16,709 So, I know most people are terrified of death, 2 00:00:16,709 --> 00:00:18,938 but I’m terrified of cocktail parties. 3 00:00:19,458 --> 00:00:21,878 (Laughter) 4 00:00:22,378 --> 00:00:24,968 I'm not much good at the usual social chatter, 5 00:00:24,968 --> 00:00:27,168 so if you put a couple of drinks inside me, 6 00:00:27,168 --> 00:00:29,559 there's no knowing what I might come out with. 7 00:00:29,559 --> 00:00:31,210 (Laughter) 8 00:00:31,750 --> 00:00:34,123 Like what happened at one such event, 9 00:00:34,123 --> 00:00:37,079 halfway into a second martini. 10 00:00:37,919 --> 00:00:39,419 I got into a conversation 11 00:00:39,419 --> 00:00:43,140 with an ardent fan of the "end to aging" movement - 12 00:00:43,510 --> 00:00:47,440 you know, the vision of a radically enhanced life span 13 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:51,780 big with Silicon Valley billionaires who think they should never die. 14 00:00:52,921 --> 00:00:55,018 One of them was actually boasting at the time 15 00:00:55,018 --> 00:00:59,485 that he was taking 150 nutritional supplements a day 16 00:00:59,485 --> 00:01:01,745 to ward off death - 17 00:01:02,597 --> 00:01:05,568 an activity that must have consumed the better part of an hour, 18 00:01:05,568 --> 00:01:07,685 let alone the lining of a stomach. 19 00:01:08,125 --> 00:01:10,038 (Laughter) 20 00:01:10,458 --> 00:01:11,708 The guy I was talking with 21 00:01:11,708 --> 00:01:14,768 didn't seem to think there was anything weird about this. 22 00:01:15,838 --> 00:01:17,478 He was about half my age - 23 00:01:17,838 --> 00:01:19,738 less than half, in fact. 24 00:01:19,938 --> 00:01:24,566 And since death was clearly more of an imminent reality for me than for him, 25 00:01:24,566 --> 00:01:29,378 he made the mistake of assuming that I'd be living in mortal fear of it. 26 00:01:30,228 --> 00:01:32,508 He seemed quite shocked that I wasn't. 27 00:01:33,028 --> 00:01:35,678 In fact, he seemed to take my equanimity of the prospect 28 00:01:35,678 --> 00:01:39,487 as an admission of some kind of failure on my part. 29 00:01:40,597 --> 00:01:44,168 “How can you accept limits that don't have to be there?" he said. 30 00:01:44,168 --> 00:01:46,768 "Biotechnology could mean an end to aging; 31 00:01:46,768 --> 00:01:50,427 it could even mean an end to death itself." 32 00:01:51,657 --> 00:01:53,961 And that’s when it came out. 33 00:01:53,961 --> 00:01:57,068 (Laughter) 34 00:01:58,808 --> 00:02:02,528 "But what's wrong with dying?" I said. 35 00:02:04,238 --> 00:02:06,488 The question startled him into silence, 36 00:02:06,488 --> 00:02:09,038 and the truth is it startled me too. 37 00:02:09,832 --> 00:02:12,665 I'd never thought to ask this specific question before. 38 00:02:12,845 --> 00:02:14,667 I never put it quite so bluntly, 39 00:02:14,667 --> 00:02:16,447 but now that it was out there - 40 00:02:16,447 --> 00:02:19,357 hovering in the alcoholic fumes between us - 41 00:02:19,357 --> 00:02:22,187 (Laughter) 42 00:02:23,037 --> 00:02:25,369 it seemed to cut to the heart of the matter 43 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:30,629 because it's taken for granted that we're all afraid of death. 44 00:02:31,458 --> 00:02:33,698 Ask people if they are - 45 00:02:33,698 --> 00:02:35,112 and I have asked, 46 00:02:35,112 --> 00:02:37,471 though not usually at parties - 47 00:02:37,471 --> 00:02:40,795 and most would say, "Yes, of course!" 48 00:02:40,795 --> 00:02:44,725 and look like they'd rather be anywhere but in the same room as you. 49 00:02:45,765 --> 00:02:47,974 There was psychologist William James, 50 00:02:47,974 --> 00:02:50,774 who called death "the evil background," 51 00:02:50,774 --> 00:02:55,443 and "the worm at the core of human aspirations to happiness." 52 00:02:56,453 --> 00:02:58,074 Or with poet Philip Larkin, 53 00:02:58,074 --> 00:03:00,634 who was very good at worms at the core of things 54 00:03:01,284 --> 00:03:03,286 and wrote of lying awake in terror 55 00:03:03,286 --> 00:03:06,866 of what he called the "total emptiness forever." 56 00:03:08,619 --> 00:03:12,145 But it turns out, I’m as bad at things taken for granted 57 00:03:12,145 --> 00:03:14,515 as I am at cocktail parties. 58 00:03:15,061 --> 00:03:18,408 When something seems so obvious it's beyond question, 59 00:03:18,408 --> 00:03:21,476 that's when I tend to start questioning; 60 00:03:22,206 --> 00:03:24,426 because what we take for granted 61 00:03:24,437 --> 00:03:29,037 may really be what we haven't taken the time to think through. 62 00:03:30,867 --> 00:03:32,158 I guess you could say 63 00:03:32,158 --> 00:03:35,874 I haven't had much option but to think through the matter of my own death 64 00:03:35,874 --> 00:03:38,493 since I've come pretty close to it a number of times. 65 00:03:39,131 --> 00:03:42,582 In the Middle-East, I was shot at on a journalistic assignment, 66 00:03:42,582 --> 00:03:44,231 bombed as a civilian, 67 00:03:44,231 --> 00:03:46,621 threatened by right-wing thugs. 68 00:03:47,353 --> 00:03:51,532 But the closest I've come was entirely my own doing. 69 00:03:52,382 --> 00:03:54,418 I lost control of a car 70 00:03:54,418 --> 00:03:58,561 on turn three of a race track in the American Midwest, 71 00:03:58,561 --> 00:04:01,195 and with what seemed immense slowness 72 00:04:01,195 --> 00:04:03,417 rolled over, 73 00:04:03,417 --> 00:04:07,247 and over, and - yes - over again. 74 00:04:08,337 --> 00:04:12,611 And as I rolled, a single sentence reverberated in my mind, 75 00:04:12,611 --> 00:04:15,194 like some kind of mantra. 76 00:04:15,704 --> 00:04:21,424 "This", I kept thinking, "is a really stupid way to die." 77 00:04:21,424 --> 00:04:23,851 (Laughter) 78 00:04:29,619 --> 00:04:30,619 My first reaction 79 00:04:30,619 --> 00:04:33,473 when the car came to a stop and I found myself still alive 80 00:04:33,473 --> 00:04:34,882 was amazement, 81 00:04:34,882 --> 00:04:36,532 followed by a surge of gratitude 82 00:04:36,532 --> 00:04:39,790 to whoever it was who invented the crash helmet. 83 00:04:39,790 --> 00:04:40,897 (Laughter) 84 00:04:40,897 --> 00:04:43,069 So, it only occurred to me later to ask, 85 00:04:43,069 --> 00:04:47,259 "What exactly would have been so stupid about dying this way?" 86 00:04:47,764 --> 00:04:51,082 I mean, what might I consider an intelligent way to die? 87 00:04:51,082 --> 00:04:52,690 (Laughter) 88 00:04:53,530 --> 00:04:56,558 Why was I even asking such a question in the first place? 89 00:04:56,978 --> 00:05:01,546 To which my only answer was: intellectual vanity. 90 00:05:03,066 --> 00:05:07,685 I mean, surely I was far too intelligent to die stupidly. 91 00:05:07,685 --> 00:05:10,567 (Laughter) 92 00:05:13,337 --> 00:05:17,106 It seems that not only is my life immensely significant to me, 93 00:05:17,106 --> 00:05:19,207 but so too is my death - 94 00:05:19,737 --> 00:05:21,418 even though if I was dead, 95 00:05:21,418 --> 00:05:25,208 I wouldn’t be around to appreciate the significance of that fact. 96 00:05:25,578 --> 00:05:28,539 In fact, I wouldn't be around to appreciate anything at all, 97 00:05:29,009 --> 00:05:31,699 which makes it a good thing I'm not religious; 98 00:05:32,486 --> 00:05:35,615 because then, apparently, I would be around 99 00:05:35,615 --> 00:05:39,107 in something called "the afterlife." 100 00:05:40,177 --> 00:05:44,876 And this is, to put it mildly, a sobering thought to live with; 101 00:05:44,876 --> 00:05:48,321 since the idea is not only that you never really die, 102 00:05:48,321 --> 00:05:50,850 but that what you do in this life 103 00:05:50,850 --> 00:05:55,030 determines your fate in a hypothetical next one. 104 00:05:55,783 --> 00:05:58,738 In other words, the life you're actually living 105 00:05:58,738 --> 00:06:02,122 has no intrinsic value in and of itself; 106 00:06:02,782 --> 00:06:04,722 or actually, not in other words 107 00:06:04,722 --> 00:06:08,635 but in the words of motivational mega-pastor Rick Warren, 108 00:06:08,635 --> 00:06:11,035 he of The Purpose Driven Life: 109 00:06:12,010 --> 00:06:13,688 "Earth," he says - 110 00:06:14,438 --> 00:06:16,568 and I'm not making this up - 111 00:06:17,088 --> 00:06:24,498 "Earth is the staging area, the preschool, the tryout for your life in eternity." 112 00:06:27,432 --> 00:06:30,122 Life as a practice session? 113 00:06:30,697 --> 00:06:33,434 I mean, that's one way to utterly trivialize it. 114 00:06:33,854 --> 00:06:35,154 And here’s another; 115 00:06:35,154 --> 00:06:39,434 because what’s on offer from the Silicon Valley apostles of immortality 116 00:06:39,675 --> 00:06:43,051 really comes down to a secular version of the same thing. 117 00:06:43,441 --> 00:06:45,566 Even if for them you stay in your body 118 00:06:45,566 --> 00:06:49,392 instead of evaporating into some kind of disembodied state. 119 00:06:50,032 --> 00:06:54,484 And so, we have Paypal co-founder Peter Thiel 120 00:06:54,484 --> 00:06:58,004 saying - and I quote - 121 00:06:58,004 --> 00:07:02,285 "If people think they're going to die, it's demotivating." 122 00:07:02,765 --> 00:07:05,403 (Laughter) 123 00:07:06,353 --> 00:07:07,517 There's more! 124 00:07:08,107 --> 00:07:09,247 (Laughter) 125 00:07:09,687 --> 00:07:15,687 "The idea of immortality," he says, "is motivational." 126 00:07:18,785 --> 00:07:22,929 As one of those people absurd enough to imagine she's going to die, 127 00:07:22,929 --> 00:07:26,806 I find Thiel's glibness astonishing. 128 00:07:26,806 --> 00:07:31,286 He reduces human existence to the language of corporate management, 129 00:07:32,303 --> 00:07:34,483 to motivational path. 130 00:07:35,423 --> 00:07:39,073 He seems to think our lives are invalidated by the fact that we'll die, 131 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:44,425 and he assumes that life is a matter of what else but metrics; 132 00:07:44,807 --> 00:07:48,967 its value determined by something as easy to calculate as years. 133 00:07:49,797 --> 00:07:53,926 In Thiel's world, what gets us up in the morning 134 00:07:53,926 --> 00:07:56,526 is not the enjoyment of the life we're actually living, 135 00:07:56,526 --> 00:08:02,006 but the hope that we'll go on getting up in the morning forever. 136 00:08:04,587 --> 00:08:07,663 I for one can think of few things more depressing. 137 00:08:07,663 --> 00:08:10,323 (Laughter) 138 00:08:13,363 --> 00:08:15,914 (Applause) 139 00:08:17,034 --> 00:08:19,607 Thiel's dream is my nightmare. 140 00:08:19,767 --> 00:08:21,004 (Laughter) 141 00:08:21,144 --> 00:08:22,819 And if you think about it a moment, 142 00:08:22,819 --> 00:08:25,964 it might turn out to be yours too. 143 00:08:26,574 --> 00:08:28,712 Let's leave aside practical considerations, 144 00:08:28,712 --> 00:08:31,658 like who can possibly afford to live forever. 145 00:08:31,658 --> 00:08:34,143 I mean, I guess that might be less of a consideration 146 00:08:34,143 --> 00:08:36,692 if you are a billionaire, but only slightly less, 147 00:08:36,692 --> 00:08:38,687 because any number of billions of dollars 148 00:08:38,687 --> 00:08:42,444 is still barely a drop in the financial ocean of eternity. 149 00:08:43,224 --> 00:08:47,014 Instead, I'd ask you to think what it might mean to live forever, 150 00:08:47,018 --> 00:08:51,001 what it would be like to just keep on going, 151 00:08:51,001 --> 00:08:54,631 like that pink toy rabbit in the old commercial for batteries, 152 00:08:54,631 --> 00:08:57,266 banging away on its tin drum. 153 00:08:57,266 --> 00:08:58,382 (Laughter) 154 00:08:59,862 --> 00:09:02,756 And in fact, we do have some idea of what it would be like. 155 00:09:03,419 --> 00:09:05,589 It's there in the way we talk. 156 00:09:06,096 --> 00:09:08,196 When we say we sat through a lecture 157 00:09:08,196 --> 00:09:11,856 that just went on and on like it would never end, 158 00:09:12,406 --> 00:09:15,236 or we complain of incessant chatter, 159 00:09:15,236 --> 00:09:19,576 or describe a bad movie as interminable. 160 00:09:20,914 --> 00:09:24,314 Consciously or not, we realize that without an end, 161 00:09:24,314 --> 00:09:27,324 life would become a flat, featureless expanse: 162 00:09:27,694 --> 00:09:32,564 just one thing after another, literally ad infinitum. 163 00:09:33,109 --> 00:09:36,559 Endlessness would suck the vitality out of existence, 164 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:38,369 eviscerate it of meaning. 165 00:09:38,789 --> 00:09:41,689 It would leave us with that sense of tedium and pointlessness 166 00:09:41,689 --> 00:09:44,299 that's the hallmark of chronic depression. 167 00:09:45,899 --> 00:09:50,349 So the last thing I'd ever want is to never die. 168 00:09:51,794 --> 00:09:54,164 I have zero desire to live forever, 169 00:09:54,164 --> 00:09:58,164 because immortality is not something devoutly to be wished for, 170 00:09:58,164 --> 00:10:01,394 on the contrary: it's a curse. 171 00:10:02,294 --> 00:10:04,124 Think of Greek myth, 172 00:10:04,124 --> 00:10:07,234 where Sisyphus is forever rolling his boulder uphill, 173 00:10:07,234 --> 00:10:08,804 never to reach the top. 174 00:10:09,394 --> 00:10:11,734 Or of ghost and vampire stories, 175 00:10:11,734 --> 00:10:16,054 where the walking dead are condemned to spectral half lives without end. 176 00:10:17,055 --> 00:10:20,095 Or even of a comic book hero like Superman, 177 00:10:20,095 --> 00:10:23,945 destined never to have a regular Clark Kent life; 178 00:10:24,295 --> 00:10:29,225 never to live, love and die like a normal human being. 179 00:10:29,970 --> 00:10:31,730 We need endings 180 00:10:32,220 --> 00:10:35,350 because the most basic ending of all is built into us: 181 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:37,510 our ability to die, 182 00:10:37,930 --> 00:10:39,510 our mortality, 183 00:10:39,510 --> 00:10:43,140 is a defining part of what it is to be human. 184 00:10:43,140 --> 00:10:46,980 We are finite beings within infinity, 185 00:10:46,980 --> 00:10:49,150 and if we are alive to this, 186 00:10:49,150 --> 00:10:52,790 it sharpens our appreciation of the fact that we exist, 187 00:10:52,790 --> 00:10:55,900 gives new depth to the idea of life as a journey. 188 00:10:57,262 --> 00:11:02,412 So, my mortality does not negate meaning, 189 00:11:02,692 --> 00:11:04,527 it creates meaning. 190 00:11:04,807 --> 00:11:06,837 It's what wakes me up to life. 191 00:11:06,837 --> 00:11:07,902 It's what says, 192 00:11:07,902 --> 00:11:09,302 "Appreciate it! 193 00:11:09,302 --> 00:11:10,912 Don't take it for granted! 194 00:11:11,152 --> 00:11:12,892 Write the next book! 195 00:11:13,092 --> 00:11:14,532 Laugh with your friends! 196 00:11:14,762 --> 00:11:16,082 Go explore! 197 00:11:16,732 --> 00:11:18,812 Eat another dozen oysters!" 198 00:11:18,812 --> 00:11:20,092 (Laughter) 199 00:11:20,612 --> 00:11:23,762 Because it's not how long I live that matters; 200 00:11:23,762 --> 00:11:25,702 it's how I live, 201 00:11:26,582 --> 00:11:28,642 and I intend to do it well - 202 00:11:29,669 --> 00:11:31,049 to the end. 203 00:11:31,888 --> 00:11:33,118 Thank you! 204 00:11:33,758 --> 00:11:36,648 (Applause)