0:00:13.079,0:00:16.709 So, I know most people [br]are terrified of death, 0:00:16.709,0:00:18.938 but I’m terrified of cocktail parties. 0:00:19.458,0:00:21.878 (Laughter) 0:00:22.378,0:00:24.968 I'm not much good[br]at the usual social chatter, 0:00:24.968,0:00:27.168 so if you put a couple[br]of drinks inside me, 0:00:27.168,0:00:29.559 there's no knowing [br]what I might come out with. 0:00:29.559,0:00:31.210 (Laughter) 0:00:31.750,0:00:34.123 Like what happened at one such event, 0:00:34.123,0:00:37.079 halfway into a second martini. 0:00:37.919,0:00:39.419 I got into a conversation 0:00:39.419,0:00:43.140 with an ardent fan [br]of the "end to aging" movement - 0:00:43.510,0:00:47.440 you know, the vision[br]of a radically enhanced life span 0:00:47.440,0:00:51.780 big with Silicon Valley billionaires[br]who think they should never die. 0:00:52.921,0:00:55.018 One of them was actually[br]boasting at the time 0:00:55.018,0:00:59.485 that he was taking[br]150 nutritional supplements a day 0:00:59.485,0:01:01.745 to ward off death - 0:01:02.597,0:01:05.568 an activity that must have consumed[br]the better part of an hour, 0:01:05.568,0:01:07.685 let alone the lining of a stomach. 0:01:08.125,0:01:10.038 (Laughter) 0:01:10.458,0:01:11.708 The guy I was talking with 0:01:11.708,0:01:14.768 didn't seem to think[br]there was anything weird about this. 0:01:15.838,0:01:17.478 He was about half my age - 0:01:17.838,0:01:19.738 less than half, in fact. 0:01:19.938,0:01:24.566 And since death was clearly more of[br]an imminent reality for me than for him, 0:01:24.566,0:01:29.378 he made the mistake of assuming[br]that I'd be living in mortal fear of it. 0:01:30.228,0:01:32.508 He seemed quite shocked that I wasn't. 0:01:33.028,0:01:35.678 In fact, he seemed to take my[br]equanimity of the prospect 0:01:35.678,0:01:39.487 as an admission of some kind [br]of failure on my part. 0:01:40.597,0:01:44.168 “How can you accept limits[br]that don't have to be there?" he said. 0:01:44.168,0:01:46.768 "Biotechnology could mean an end to aging; 0:01:46.768,0:01:50.427 it could even mean[br]an end to death itself." 0:01:51.657,0:01:53.961 And that’s when it came out. 0:01:53.961,0:01:57.068 (Laughter) 0:01:58.808,0:02:02.528 "But what's wrong with dying?" I said. 0:02:04.238,0:02:06.488 The question startled him into silence, 0:02:06.488,0:02:09.038 and the truth is it startled me too. 0:02:09.832,0:02:12.665 I'd never thought to ask[br]this specific question before. 0:02:12.845,0:02:14.667 I never put it quite so bluntly, 0:02:14.667,0:02:16.447 but now that it was out there - 0:02:16.447,0:02:19.357 hovering in the alcoholic [br]fumes between us - 0:02:19.357,0:02:22.187 (Laughter) 0:02:23.037,0:02:25.369 it seemed to cut [br]to the heart of the matter 0:02:25.919,0:02:30.629 because it's taken for granted [br]that we're all afraid of death. 0:02:31.458,0:02:33.698 Ask people if they are - 0:02:33.698,0:02:35.112 and I have asked, 0:02:35.112,0:02:37.471 though not usually at parties - 0:02:37.471,0:02:40.795 and most would say, "Yes, of course!" 0:02:40.795,0:02:44.725 and look like they'd rather be[br]anywhere but in the same room as you. 0:02:45.765,0:02:47.974 There was psychologist William James, 0:02:47.974,0:02:50.774 who called death "the evil background," 0:02:50.774,0:02:55.443 and "the worm at the core [br]of human aspirations to happiness." 0:02:56.453,0:02:58.074 Or with poet Philip Larkin, 0:02:58.074,0:03:00.634 who was very good [br]at worms at the core of things 0:03:01.284,0:03:03.286 and wrote of lying awake in terror 0:03:03.286,0:03:06.866 of what he called[br]the "total emptiness forever." 0:03:08.619,0:03:12.145 But it turns out, I’m as bad [br]at things taken for granted 0:03:12.145,0:03:14.515 as I am at cocktail parties. 0:03:15.061,0:03:18.408 When something seems so obvious[br]it's beyond question, 0:03:18.408,0:03:21.476 that's when I tend to start questioning; 0:03:22.206,0:03:24.426 because what we take for granted 0:03:24.437,0:03:29.037 may really be what we haven't taken[br]the time to think through. 0:03:30.867,0:03:32.158 I guess you could say 0:03:32.158,0:03:35.874 I haven't had much option but to think[br]through the matter of my own death 0:03:35.874,0:03:38.493 since I've come pretty close to it[br]a number of times. 0:03:39.131,0:03:42.582 In the Middle-East, I was shot at[br]on a journalistic assignment, 0:03:42.582,0:03:44.231 bombed as a civilian, 0:03:44.231,0:03:46.621 threatened by right-wing thugs. 0:03:47.353,0:03:51.532 But the closest I've come[br]was entirely my own doing. 0:03:52.382,0:03:54.418 I lost control of a car 0:03:54.418,0:03:58.561 on turn three of a race track[br]in the American Midwest, 0:03:58.561,0:04:01.195 and with what seemed immense slowness 0:04:01.195,0:04:03.417 rolled over, 0:04:03.417,0:04:07.247 and over, and - yes - over again. 0:04:08.337,0:04:12.611 And as I rolled, a single sentence[br]reverberated in my mind, 0:04:12.611,0:04:15.194 like some kind of mantra. 0:04:15.704,0:04:21.424 "This", I kept thinking,[br]"is a really stupid way to die." 0:04:21.424,0:04:23.851 (Laughter) 0:04:29.619,0:04:30.619 My first reaction 0:04:30.619,0:04:33.473 when the car came to a stop[br]and I found myself still alive 0:04:33.473,0:04:34.882 was amazement, 0:04:34.882,0:04:36.532 followed by a surge of gratitude 0:04:36.532,0:04:39.790 to whoever it was [br]who invented the crash helmet. 0:04:39.790,0:04:40.897 (Laughter) 0:04:40.897,0:04:43.069 So, it only occurred to me later to ask, 0:04:43.069,0:04:47.259 "What exactly would have been[br]so stupid about dying this way?" 0:04:47.764,0:04:51.082 I mean, what might I consider[br]an intelligent way to die? 0:04:51.082,0:04:52.690 (Laughter) 0:04:53.530,0:04:56.558 Why was I even asking[br]such a question in the first place? 0:04:56.978,0:05:01.546 To which my only answer was:[br]intellectual vanity. 0:05:03.066,0:05:07.685 I mean, surely I was[br]far too intelligent to die stupidly. 0:05:07.685,0:05:10.567 (Laughter) 0:05:13.337,0:05:17.106 It seems that not only is my life[br]immensely significant to me, 0:05:17.106,0:05:19.207 but so too is my death - 0:05:19.737,0:05:21.418 even though if I was dead, 0:05:21.418,0:05:25.208 I wouldn’t be around to appreciate[br]the significance of that fact. 0:05:25.578,0:05:28.539 In fact, I wouldn't be around[br]to appreciate anything at all, 0:05:29.009,0:05:31.699 which makes it a good thing[br]I'm not religious; 0:05:32.486,0:05:35.615 because then, apparently,[br]I would be around 0:05:35.615,0:05:39.107 in something called "the afterlife." 0:05:40.177,0:05:44.876 And this is, to put it mildly,[br]a sobering thought to live with; 0:05:44.876,0:05:48.321 since the idea is not only [br]that you never really die, 0:05:48.321,0:05:50.850 but that what you do in this life 0:05:50.850,0:05:55.030 determines your fate[br]in a hypothetical next one. 0:05:55.783,0:05:58.738 In other words,[br]the life you're actually living 0:05:58.738,0:06:02.122 has no intrinsic value in and of itself; 0:06:02.782,0:06:04.722 or actually, not in other words 0:06:04.722,0:06:08.635 but in the words of motivational[br]mega-pastor Rick Warren, 0:06:08.635,0:06:11.035 he of The Purpose Driven Life: 0:06:12.010,0:06:13.688 "Earth," he says - 0:06:14.438,0:06:16.568 and I'm not making this up - 0:06:17.088,0:06:24.498 "Earth is the staging area, the preschool,[br]the tryout for your life in eternity." 0:06:27.432,0:06:30.122 Life as a practice session? 0:06:30.697,0:06:33.434 I mean, that's one way [br]to utterly trivialize it. 0:06:33.854,0:06:35.154 And here’s another; 0:06:35.154,0:06:39.434 because what’s on offer from[br]the Silicon Valley apostles of immortality 0:06:39.675,0:06:43.051 really comes down to a secular [br]version of the same thing. 0:06:43.441,0:06:45.566 Even if for them you stay in your body 0:06:45.566,0:06:49.392 instead of evaporating[br]into some kind of disembodied state. 0:06:50.032,0:06:54.484 And so, we have [br]Paypal co-founder Peter Thiel 0:06:54.484,0:06:58.004 saying - and I quote - 0:06:58.004,0:07:02.285 "If people think they're going to die,[br]it's demotivating." 0:07:02.765,0:07:05.403 (Laughter) 0:07:06.353,0:07:07.517 There's more! 0:07:08.107,0:07:09.247 (Laughter) 0:07:09.687,0:07:15.687 "The idea of immortality," [br]he says, "is motivational." 0:07:18.785,0:07:22.929 As one of those people absurd enough[br]to imagine she's going to die, 0:07:22.929,0:07:26.806 I find Thiel's glibness astonishing. 0:07:26.806,0:07:31.286 He reduces human existence[br]to the language of corporate management, 0:07:32.303,0:07:34.483 to motivational path. 0:07:35.423,0:07:39.073 He seems to think our lives are[br]invalidated by the fact that we'll die, 0:07:39.840,0:07:44.425 and he assumes that life[br]is a matter of what else but metrics; 0:07:44.807,0:07:48.967 its value determined by something[br]as easy to calculate as years. 0:07:49.797,0:07:53.926 In Thiel's world,[br]what gets us up in the morning 0:07:53.926,0:07:56.526 is not the enjoyment of the life[br]we're actually living, 0:07:56.526,0:08:02.006 but the hope that we'll go on[br]getting up in the morning forever. 0:08:04.587,0:08:07.663 I for one can think of[br]few things more depressing. 0:08:07.663,0:08:10.323 (Laughter) 0:08:13.363,0:08:15.914 (Applause) 0:08:17.034,0:08:19.607 Thiel's dream is my nightmare. 0:08:19.767,0:08:21.004 (Laughter) 0:08:21.144,0:08:22.819 And if you think about it a moment, 0:08:22.819,0:08:25.964 it might turn out to be yours too. 0:08:26.574,0:08:28.712 Let's leave aside [br]practical considerations, 0:08:28.712,0:08:31.658 like who can possibly [br]afford to live forever. 0:08:31.658,0:08:34.143 I mean, I guess that might be[br]less of a consideration 0:08:34.143,0:08:36.692 if you are a billionaire,[br]but only slightly less, 0:08:36.692,0:08:38.687 because any number of billions of dollars[br] 0:08:38.687,0:08:42.444 is still barely a drop[br]in the financial ocean of eternity. 0:08:43.224,0:08:47.014 Instead, I'd ask you to think[br]what it might mean to live forever, 0:08:47.018,0:08:51.001 what it would be like[br]to just keep on going, 0:08:51.001,0:08:54.631 like that pink toy rabbit[br]in the old commercial for batteries, 0:08:54.631,0:08:57.266 banging away on its tin drum. 0:08:57.266,0:08:58.382 (Laughter) 0:08:59.862,0:09:02.756 And in fact, we do have some idea[br]of what it would be like. 0:09:03.419,0:09:05.589 It's there in the way we talk. 0:09:06.096,0:09:08.196 When we say we sat through a lecture 0:09:08.196,0:09:11.856 that just went on and on[br]like it would never end, 0:09:12.406,0:09:15.236 or we complain of incessant chatter, 0:09:15.236,0:09:19.576 or describe a bad movie as interminable. 0:09:20.914,0:09:24.314 Consciously or not,[br]we realize that without an end, 0:09:24.314,0:09:27.324 life would become a flat,[br]featureless expanse: 0:09:27.694,0:09:32.564 just one thing after another,[br]literally ad infinitum. 0:09:33.109,0:09:36.559 Endlessness would suck [br]the vitality out of existence, 0:09:36.559,0:09:38.369 eviscerate it of meaning. 0:09:38.789,0:09:41.689 It would leave us with that sense[br]of tedium and pointlessness 0:09:41.689,0:09:44.299 that's the hallmark of chronic depression. 0:09:45.899,0:09:50.349 So the last thing I'd ever want[br]is to never die. 0:09:51.794,0:09:54.164 I have zero desire to live forever, 0:09:54.164,0:09:58.164 because immortality is not[br]something devoutly to be wished for, 0:09:58.164,0:10:01.394 on the contrary: it's a curse. 0:10:02.294,0:10:04.124 Think of Greek myth, 0:10:04.124,0:10:07.234 where Sisyphus is forever[br]rolling his boulder uphill, 0:10:07.234,0:10:08.804 never to reach the top. 0:10:09.394,0:10:11.734 Or of ghost and vampire stories, 0:10:11.734,0:10:16.054 where the walking dead are condemned[br]to spectral half lives without end. 0:10:17.055,0:10:20.095 Or even of a comic book [br]hero like Superman, 0:10:20.095,0:10:23.945 destined never to have[br]a regular Clark Kent life; 0:10:24.295,0:10:29.225 never to live, love and die[br]like a normal human being. 0:10:29.970,0:10:31.730 We need endings 0:10:32.220,0:10:35.350 because the most[br]basic ending of all is built into us: 0:10:35.880,0:10:37.510 our ability to die, 0:10:37.930,0:10:39.510 our mortality, 0:10:39.510,0:10:43.140 is a defining part[br]of what it is to be human. 0:10:43.140,0:10:46.980 We are finite beings within infinity, 0:10:46.980,0:10:49.150 and if we are alive to this, 0:10:49.150,0:10:52.790 it sharpens our appreciation[br]of the fact that we exist, 0:10:52.790,0:10:55.900 gives new depth to the idea[br]of life as a journey. 0:10:57.262,0:11:02.412 So, my mortality does not negate meaning, 0:11:02.692,0:11:04.527 it creates meaning. 0:11:04.807,0:11:06.837 It's what wakes me up to life. 0:11:06.837,0:11:07.902 It's what says, 0:11:07.902,0:11:09.302 "Appreciate it! 0:11:09.302,0:11:10.912 Don't take it for granted! 0:11:11.152,0:11:12.892 Write the next book! 0:11:13.092,0:11:14.532 Laugh with your friends! 0:11:14.762,0:11:16.082 Go explore! 0:11:16.732,0:11:18.812 Eat another dozen oysters!" 0:11:18.812,0:11:20.092 (Laughter) 0:11:20.612,0:11:23.762 Because it's not how long[br]I live that matters; 0:11:23.762,0:11:25.702 it's how I live, 0:11:26.582,0:11:28.642 and I intend to do it well - 0:11:29.669,0:11:31.049 to the end. 0:11:31.888,0:11:33.118 Thank you! 0:11:33.758,0:11:36.648 (Applause)