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Dialogue: 0,0:00:02.73,0:00:05.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Charles Chi-Tat Ng, it is\Nthe judgment and sentence
Dialogue: 0,0:00:05.14,0:00:07.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of this court of which the\Njury found you guilty on
Dialogue: 0,0:00:07.92,0:00:10.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,February 24, 1999.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:10.56,0:00:15.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it's just like I told\Nthe judge, may God forgive me.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:15.30,0:00:17.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I want him dead.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:17.32,0:00:19.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Charles Ng has shown\Nnothing but contempt for
Dialogue: 0,0:00:19.39,0:00:22.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,life, for law, for\Nanything and everything good.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:22.29,0:00:24.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He has killed many people\Nand for no reason other
Dialogue: 0,0:00:24.80,0:00:27.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,than for his amusement.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:27.12,0:00:29.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They were dismembered,\Nburned, and then I feel
Dialogue: 0,0:00:29.67,0:00:31.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that they were crushed\Nin some manner.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:31.58,0:00:34.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the jury having found\Nall 11 murders to be of
Dialogue: 0,0:00:34.14,0:00:36.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the first degree.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:36.33,0:00:40.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is a cartoon that\Nshows a Asian individual,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:40.31,0:00:43.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he has a\Nchild by the legs.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:43.01,0:00:46.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it appears that what he's\Ndoing is he's cooking this\Nchild.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:46.86,0:00:49.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What kind of person\Ndoes that to a child?
Dialogue: 0,0:00:49.79,0:00:51.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To a baby?
Dialogue: 0,0:00:51.92,0:00:54.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the jury having\Nreturned a verdict that
Dialogue: 0,0:00:54.45,0:00:57.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the penalty\Nshall be death.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:57.43,0:01:00.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, if I had to\Ndeliver a message to Charles Ng,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:00.78,0:01:03.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it would be, you know, you better repent now,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:03.20,0:01:05.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because when\Nthe angel of death comes,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:05.02,0:01:07.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the time for\Nmercy is over.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:07.23,0:01:13.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,...... case is, Mr. Ng.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:27.91,0:01:31.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In 1984, Charles Ng, a\NHong-Kong British subject,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:31.07,0:01:34.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and Leonard Lake, a native\NCalifornian, committed a
Dialogue: 0,0:01:34.09,0:01:37.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,series of horrific crimes\Nthat devastated the lives
Dialogue: 0,0:01:37.07,0:01:39.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of everyone they touched.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:39.53,0:01:40.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Can't stop. Can't stop.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:40.63,0:01:41.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Won't stop. Won't stop.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:41.36,0:01:43.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Their shared obsessions\Nof militarism and lurid
Dialogue: 0,0:01:43.03,0:01:48.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sexual fantasy led to kidnap, torture, and murder.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:48.60,0:01:51.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the evidence they left\Nbehind stands as testimony
Dialogue: 0,0:01:51.50,0:01:55.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the mayhem\Nthey created.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:55.10,0:01:58.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lake recorded his state\Nof mind in his journal.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:58.81,0:02:02.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ng charted the murders\Nin a series of cartoons.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:02.72,0:02:05.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And they videoed the\Ntorture of the women they
Dialogue: 0,0:02:05.09,0:02:07.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,held as sex slaves.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:07.63,0:02:10.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ng talked to us in\Nprison during his trial.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:10.62,0:02:13.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These are horrendous stuff\Nthat they accuse me of doing.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:13.48,0:02:17.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, I can't\Neven hurt a puppy.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:17.65,0:02:19.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And Lake talked about\Ntheir fantasies in his
Dialogue: 0,0:02:19.53,0:02:23.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,home-made philosophy tape.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:23.07,0:02:27.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What I want is an\Noff-the-shelf sex partner.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:27.92,0:02:29.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The combined sadistic\Nenergies of these two men
Dialogue: 0,0:02:29.82,0:02:32.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,became a lethal cocktail,\Nand their story shows how
Dialogue: 0,0:02:32.83,0:02:38.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,devastating such deviance can become when it goes undetected.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:42.97,0:02:45.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When Leonard Lake was\Narrested in 1985,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:45.96,0:02:47.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he committed suicide.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:47.24,0:02:52.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it has taken 15 years\Nto bring Charles Ng to justice.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:52.66,0:02:55.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And whilst Ng protests his\Ninnocence, and this woman,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:55.95,0:03:00.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lake's ex-wife, has\Nimmunity on 19 counts of murder,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:00.41,0:03:01.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this is simple\Nstory of the horrors
Dialogue: 0,0:03:01.75,0:03:04.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,created by this trio and\Ntheir devastating impact
Dialogue: 0,0:03:04.36,0:03:08.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on the lives of so\Nmany more than their 25 victims.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:14.29,0:03:17.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Charles Chi-Tat Ng, you are remanded to the care, custody...
Dialogue: 0,0:03:17.38,0:03:21.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Charles Ng has spent those 15 years in solitary confinement.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:21.23,0:03:24.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the man that knows Ng\Nbetter than most is his lawyer,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:24.25,0:03:27.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,public\Ndefender Bill Kelley.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:27.57,0:03:29.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In speaking about Charles\NNg's personality, if you...
Dialogue: 0,0:03:29.86,0:03:33.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,appear annoyed or\Nirritated he initially...
Dialogue: 0,0:03:33.03,0:03:35.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,let's say you're arguing\Nwith him about something,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:35.64,0:03:36.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he starts to\Nassert himself.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:36.25,0:03:39.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Once he asserts himself,\Nyou assert yourself.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:39.11,0:03:42.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Typically he just\Nwithdraws, and he becomes
Dialogue: 0,0:03:42.49,0:03:45.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,very meek and kind\Nof goes into a shell.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:46.66,0:03:49.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I would say he's without\Nconfidence,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:49.90,0:03:53.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,almost child-like in\Na lot of ways.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:53.24,0:03:56.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Born on Christmas Eve,\N1960, in Hong Kong,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:56.33,0:03:58.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Charles Ng was a constant\Ndisappointment to his
Dialogue: 0,0:03:58.64,0:04:01.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,demanding father.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:01.45,0:04:05.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As a child, he fought hard against his family's expectations.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:05.18,0:04:09.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This led to severe\Nand repeated beatings.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:09.57,0:04:12.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Patrick Callahan, a\Ncriminal psychologist and
Dialogue: 0,0:04:12.03,0:04:14.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,an authority on this case,\Nhas spent many hours in
Dialogue: 0,0:04:14.90,0:04:17.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,conversation with Ng.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:17.38,0:04:20.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Kenneth Ng, Charles'\Nfather, was seriously
Dialogue: 0,0:04:20.67,0:04:24.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,physically abusive\Nof, uh, Charles.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:24.83,0:04:29.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Interesting to note is\Nthat while he was being
Dialogue: 0,0:04:29.24,0:04:32.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,physically abusive, he was saying it was to make him strong.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:32.89,0:04:34.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Him, Charles, strong.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:34.34,0:04:36.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he was also saying\Nwhile he was being beaten
Dialogue: 0,0:04:36.98,0:04:40.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and tethered to a\Nwindow, "I love you.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:40.68,0:04:42.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm doing this to\Nmake you strong.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:42.42,0:04:44.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's for your own good."
Dialogue: 0,0:04:46.38,0:04:48.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But this only made Ng\Nwithdraw further into a
Dialogue: 0,0:04:48.88,0:04:52.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,fantasy world of violence\Nand martial arts.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:52.54,0:04:55.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He began to set fire to\Ncars and to his school.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:58.52,0:05:00.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Charles Ng had become a\Ndisgrace to his proud,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:00.83,0:05:02.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,middle-class family.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:02.73,0:05:07.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So in 1977, he was sent\Nto a private school in England.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:07.89,0:05:11.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But Ng could not bond\Nwith this new environment.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:11.05,0:05:13.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He became more violent,\Nstole from fellow pupils,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:13.68,0:05:17.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and harassed his teacher\Nwith sexually explicit letters.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:21.45,0:05:24.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He was then sent to San Francisco to live with relatives.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:24.94,0:05:28.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And in October 1979, using\Na fake birth certificate,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:28.76,0:05:31.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ng joined the U.S. Marines.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:31.44,0:05:32.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Can't stop. Can't stop.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:32.44,0:05:34.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Won't stop. Won't stop.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:34.94,0:05:36.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, the Marine Corps,\Nof course, is not an individual,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:36.90,0:05:38.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but he saw the organization as\Nsomething
Dialogue: 0,0:05:38.61,0:05:40.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that he could belong to\Nand attach himself to and
Dialogue: 0,0:05:40.96,0:05:44.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,be part of - something he never really felt with his father.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:44.86,0:05:46.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Can't stop. Can't stop.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:46.12,0:05:46.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Won't stop. Won't stop.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:46.92,0:05:48.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ng had also found an environment\Nthat
Dialogue: 0,0:05:48.09,0:05:50.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,encouraged his love of violence.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:50.60,0:05:52.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But within two years,\NNg had been arrested for
Dialogue: 0,0:05:52.78,0:05:54.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,stealing weapons.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:54.36,0:05:56.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He escaped, went on the\Nrun, and sought out an
Dialogue: 0,0:05:56.79,0:05:59.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ex-Marine he had contacted\Nthrough a right-wing
Dialogue: 0,0:05:59.61,0:06:04.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,survivalist magazine.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:04.11,0:06:07.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That man was Leonard Lake.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:07.27,0:06:09.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He was to become the\Nfather figure Ng had been
Dialogue: 0,0:06:09.34,0:06:14.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,searching for and would fuel his violent sexual fantasies.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:22.71,0:06:26.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Good evening.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:26.75,0:06:29.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's a Sunday in October.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:29.84,0:06:32.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Twenty-second,\Ntwenty-third,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:32.16,0:06:33.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,something like that.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:33.34,0:06:38.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Very close to my\N38th birthday.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:38.42,0:06:42.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I'm starting this tape\Nwithout script or without
Dialogue: 0,0:06:42.64,0:06:49.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,any real organization of\Nwhat I want to say,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:49.29,0:06:54.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I do feel a need to explain.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:56.71,0:06:59.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,At 17, Lake was an angry\Nloner,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:59.74,0:07:03.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,showing signs of retarded sexual\Ndevelopment.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:03.32,0:07:05.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When he read a classic\Nnovel called
Dialogue: 0,0:07:05.02,0:07:07.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"The Collector," it proved the\Ncatalyst for the deviant
Dialogue: 0,0:07:07.98,0:07:12.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,fantasies that would\Nshape his adult life.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:12.36,0:07:14.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Collector is a\Nchilling story of an
Dialogue: 0,0:07:14.28,0:07:17.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,obsessive young man\Nisolated from the world.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:17.70,0:07:20.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He fixates on a young\Nwoman, Miranda,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:20.68,0:07:23.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and imprisons her in the hope\Nshe will grow to love him.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:23.97,0:07:26.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lake became obsessed with\Nthis tale and over the
Dialogue: 0,0:07:26.02,0:07:28.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,next 20 years distorted\Nit into a plan to imprison
Dialogue: 0,0:07:28.71,0:07:31.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,women as sex slaves.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:31.11,0:07:33.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He called this plan\N"Project Miranda" after
Dialogue: 0,0:07:33.28,0:07:36.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the imprisoned woman in\NThe Collector and called
Dialogue: 0,0:07:36.00,0:07:38.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,his victims M-Ladies.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:38.95,0:07:41.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He even laid out a set of\Nrules by which he would
Dialogue: 0,0:07:41.50,0:07:44.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,force his Miranda to live.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:44.17,0:07:45.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just to quote, number\Nthree is,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:45.89,0:07:50.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"I must never show my disrespect, either verbally or silent.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:50.58,0:07:54.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I must never cross my arms\Nor legs in front of my body,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:54.94,0:07:57.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or clench my fist\Nand, unless eating,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:57.66,0:08:00.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,must always keep my\Nlips parted."
Dialogue: 0,0:08:00.78,0:08:03.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So you can see from that,\Nthat Leonard not only
Dialogue: 0,0:08:03.67,0:08:05.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,wanted physical\Ndomination,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:05.84,0:08:09.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but he wanted psychological domination.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:09.23,0:08:12.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He wanted them to be\Ntotally open to him so
Dialogue: 0,0:08:12.48,0:08:15.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that they lost their\Nindividuality,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:15.31,0:08:20.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,lost their personhood and totally became his victim.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:23.15,0:08:28.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I believe that I can, if\NI can construct a holding cell,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:28.87,0:08:35.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I can create a\Nfacility that is so stark,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:35.62,0:08:39.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and so empty that, fairly\Nquickly, by a combination
Dialogue: 0,0:08:39.61,0:08:45.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of, uh, painful\Npunishments when I'm displeased,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:45.62,0:08:52.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I can quickly\Ncondition a young woman to
Dialogue: 0,0:08:52.04,0:08:54.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,cooperate with me fully.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:56.17,0:09:01.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It may not work;\Nhowever, I want to try.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:01.06,0:09:03.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What had led Lake to such\Na warped attitude towards
Dialogue: 0,0:09:03.31,0:09:08.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,women was a repeated and compounding series of rejections,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:08.29,0:09:10.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,first as a\Nchild when his adored
Dialogue: 0,0:09:10.00,0:09:13.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,mother abandoned him, then\Nby his beloved Marines
Dialogue: 0,0:09:13.15,0:09:15.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when he was discharged\Nwith severe psychological
Dialogue: 0,0:09:15.92,0:09:20.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,problems after two\Ntours of Vietnam.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:20.23,0:09:23.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the last straw was his\Nfirst wife divorcing him,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:23.65,0:09:26.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as he later confided\Nto his sister.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:26.80,0:09:29.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In looking back on all\Nof the events,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:29.70,0:09:32.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think it certainly was a\Nsignificant one in terms
Dialogue: 0,0:09:32.08,0:09:37.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of his developing or\Nre-enforcement,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:37.98,0:09:42.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I should say, re-enforcement of\Nhis hatred of women.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:44.75,0:09:45.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Huh, let's see.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:45.63,0:09:48.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Despite this hatred, Lake\Nwas to find a woman who
Dialogue: 0,0:09:48.54,0:09:51.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,shared his extreme\Nsexual appetite.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:51.76,0:09:55.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In 1980, he met Cricket\NBalazs, and a year later
Dialogue: 0,0:09:55.23,0:09:57.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they were married.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:57.42,0:10:01.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,..... into my sweet little lap.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:01.78,0:10:04.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Her strong sexual hold on\NLake would give Cricket a
Dialogue: 0,0:10:04.58,0:10:09.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,controlling influence\Nover him until his death.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:09.14,0:10:11.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He felt so rejected by\Nwomen that someone like Cricket,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:11.94,0:10:17.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who was not particularly beautiful or intelligent,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:17.60,0:10:19.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for him to be\Ninvolved with someone like that,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:19.60,0:10:23.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think, reflects\Nhis own self-esteem problems.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:23.32,0:10:25.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That, to me, was\Nclearly a dynamic.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:25.46,0:10:28.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Even though he claimed to\Nbe smarter and cleverer
Dialogue: 0,0:10:28.02,0:10:34.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,than her, he had no power\Nin the relationship.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:34.64,0:10:40.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But the relationship Lake could control was about to begin.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:42.28,0:10:44.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Charles Ng was on the run\Nafter his arms theft from
Dialogue: 0,0:10:44.98,0:10:46.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Marines.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:46.51,0:10:50.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He fled to Leonard Lake,\Nhis survivalist pen pal.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:50.90,0:10:54.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ng remembers the first\Ntime he met this man.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:54.36,0:10:56.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,At the time, I needed\Nsomewhere to stay, so this
Dialogue: 0,0:10:56.55,0:10:58.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is why I was led to him.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:58.84,0:11:01.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He's older than me, of\Ncourse, like ten years or more,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:01.55,0:11:04.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and, you know, I\Njust took to him much like a,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:04.100,0:11:10.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a brotherly\Nfatherly figure.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:10.04,0:11:12.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As a threesome, they got\Nalong very well,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:12.73,0:11:15.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they spent a lot of\Ntime together.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:15.13,0:11:19.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They lived very cooperatively and collaboratively.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:19.79,0:11:21.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They shared\Ncare of the dog.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:21.81,0:11:25.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean they lived\Nlike a family.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:25.35,0:11:28.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In Charles Ng, Lake had\Nfound the perfect father
Dialogue: 0,0:11:28.49,0:11:31.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to help him realize\Nhis Project Miranda.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:31.54,0:11:33.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And Ng's initiation\Nwas his exposure to the
Dialogue: 0,0:11:33.62,0:11:37.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,extreme sexual games\Nplayed by Lake and Cricket.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:44.40,0:11:46.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean that, that they,\Nthey got this kind of bondage,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:46.82,0:11:49.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like whips and\Nhandcuffs, and uh,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:49.42,0:11:52.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and stuff like that\Nin the house.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:52.70,0:11:54.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, I mean, like, I\Noverheard it,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:54.65,0:11:57.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sometimes when I was in the living room or kitchen, cooking,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:57.84,0:12:00.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when they were doing these\Nthings in the bedroom.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:00.44,0:12:03.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When he observed that,\Nthere was an abreaction or
Dialogue: 0,0:12:03.61,0:12:07.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there was a connection\Nbetween the wedding of
Dialogue: 0,0:12:07.56,0:12:11.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,pain and love that he felt\Nin his relationship with
Dialogue: 0,0:12:11.39,0:12:13.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,his father and his mother.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:13.95,0:12:17.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And, and that, again,\Nbonded him more closely to
Dialogue: 0,0:12:17.53,0:12:20.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lake and to Cricket.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:20.88,0:12:22.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ng's life with his\Nsurrogate family was
Dialogue: 0,0:12:22.83,0:12:25.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,abruptly shattered when he\Nand Lake were arrested by
Dialogue: 0,0:12:25.84,0:12:28.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the FBI for weapons theft.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:28.89,0:12:31.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ng went to prison, while\NLake jumped bail and began
Dialogue: 0,0:12:31.88,0:12:34.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,life as a fugitive.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:34.56,0:12:37.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And as he wrote in his\Njournal, Lake completely
Dialogue: 0,0:12:37.19,0:12:41.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,severed his links\Nwith society.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:41.25,0:12:42.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Amazing.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:42.16,0:12:44.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Our land of the free\Nis not prepared to deal
Dialogue: 0,0:12:44.72,0:12:47.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,effectively with\Na truly free man.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:47.92,0:12:49.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What can they do to one\Nwho carries cyanide in his
Dialogue: 0,0:12:49.86,0:12:52.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,pocket when death\Nholds no fears?
Dialogue: 0,0:12:57.62,0:13:01.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,From the time that Lenny\Nbecame a fugitive,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:01.01,0:13:05.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he had told us that he'd been\Nexperimenting to find the
Dialogue: 0,0:13:05.92,0:13:10.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,right dose of cyanide that\Nwould, um, kill a man,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:10.98,0:13:14.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,an adult male and that he\Nwas to keep this cyanide
Dialogue: 0,0:13:14.90,0:13:18.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,capsule with him at all\Ntimes - um, a fresh one so
Dialogue: 0,0:13:18.98,0:13:22.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that in the event that he\Nwere ever captured, that
Dialogue: 0,0:13:22.23,0:13:27.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he was, that he would\Nrather die than be imprisoned.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:27.56,0:13:30.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In 1983, Lake persuaded\NCricket to buy a house in
Dialogue: 0,0:13:30.74,0:13:33.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the remote hills of\NCalaveras County, three
Dialogue: 0,0:13:33.47,0:13:37.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hours from San Francisco.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:37.45,0:13:39.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The quiet hamlet of\NWilseyville was the
Dialogue: 0,0:13:39.72,0:13:43.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,perfect place for\NProject Miranda.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:47.83,0:13:51.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Wilseyville is, is typical\Nof a small town up here in
Dialogue: 0,0:13:51.70,0:13:54.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the foothills.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:54.36,0:13:56.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think most people are\Ndrawn up here for its
Dialogue: 0,0:13:56.76,0:14:03.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,beauty and its quiet\Nand its openness.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:03.04,0:14:07.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think Leonard Lake was drawn here for the isolation.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:07.76,0:14:10.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was a ideal\Nplace for him.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:10.62,0:14:11.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Nobody bothered him.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:11.76,0:14:12.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Nobody recognized him.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:12.93,0:14:17.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Nobody would ask\Nhim any questions.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:17.51,0:14:20.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lake began his obsessive\Nsearch for the perfect
Dialogue: 0,0:14:20.34,0:14:24.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,M-Lady, the woman he would hold captive in his bunker.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:24.53,0:14:29.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I like very slim women,\Nvery pretty, of course, petite,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:29.44,0:14:32.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,small-breasted, long hair.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:32.01,0:14:34.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I certainly enjoy sex,\NI certainly enjoy the
Dialogue: 0,0:14:34.71,0:14:43.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,dominance of climbing on a\Nwoman and using her body.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:43.03,0:14:45.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lake needed a new\Nidentity, which meant cold
Dialogue: 0,0:14:45.25,0:14:49.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,bloodedly murdering\Nhis best friend Charles Gunnar.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:49.94,0:14:51.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he needed money to\Nbuild the bunker close to
Dialogue: 0,0:14:51.72,0:14:57.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,his house, so he lured his brother Donny up to Wilseyville.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:57.15,0:14:59.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lenny came to pick up\NDonny to take him to this
Dialogue: 0,0:14:59.01,0:15:00.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,supposed\Nhouse-sitting job.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:00.96,0:15:04.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He shot him in the head\Nwhile he was asleep.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:04.68,0:15:07.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He put like, point blank,\Nhe shot him in the head.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:07.93,0:15:10.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To pull of project\NMiranda, Lake would
Dialogue: 0,0:15:10.00,0:15:14.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,require a constant supply of money and new identities.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:14.45,0:15:19.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Gunnar and Lake's brother,\NDonny, were only the beginning.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:19.21,0:15:23.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then, in June 1984, Ng\Nwas released from prison.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:23.06,0:15:27.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He headed straight for\Nhis new-found family in Wilseyville.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:27.34,0:15:29.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Finally, Leonard Lake,\NCharles Ng, and Cricket
Dialogue: 0,0:15:29.55,0:15:32.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Balazs were\Ntogether again.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:32.40,0:15:37.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, operation Miranda\Ncould truly begin.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:37.09,0:15:40.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Within the next year, a\Ntotal of 25 people would
Dialogue: 0,0:15:40.20,0:15:42.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,disappear from San\NFrancisco and the
Dialogue: 0,0:15:42.34,0:15:45.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Wilseyville area,\Nnever to be seen again.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:01.73,0:16:06.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The bunker was ready, and\NProject Miranda had indeed begun.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:06.99,0:16:11.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lake's chilling fantasy\Nwas finally underway.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:11.26,0:16:17.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It will be interesting to\Nsee how far this tape and
Dialogue: 0,0:16:17.24,0:16:18.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I actually go.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:27.29,0:16:33.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Leonard Lake - a name not\Nseen or much used these days.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:33.18,0:16:36.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My next year as a\Nfugitive, still with death
Dialogue: 0,0:16:36.83,0:16:41.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in my pocket and\Nfantasy my major goal.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:48.16,0:16:49.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The bunker was built.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:49.75,0:16:52.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Project Miranda was go.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:52.08,0:16:56.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the next year would\Nsee at least 25 violent deaths.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:04.47,0:17:06.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The murders that were\Nperpetrated by Leonard
Dialogue: 0,0:17:06.55,0:17:11.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lake and Charles Ng\Nare very complex.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:11.05,0:17:14.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They include\Nindividual murders.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:14.25,0:17:18.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They include families\Nwhere a whole family is
Dialogue: 0,0:17:18.02,0:17:22.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,murdered, and they include\Nthe murder of children.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:22.27,0:17:25.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sean Dubs, and his parents\NHarvey and Deborah, were
Dialogue: 0,0:17:25.33,0:17:27.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,abducted from their home\Nin San Francisco when Lake
Dialogue: 0,0:17:27.97,0:17:30.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and Ng came to buy\Ntheir video camera.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:34.33,0:17:36.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And back in Wilseyville,\NBrenda O'Connor,
Dialogue: 0,0:17:36.16,0:17:38.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lonnie Bond, and their baby were\Nabducted from the house
Dialogue: 0,0:17:38.90,0:17:41.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,next door to Lake's.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:44.09,0:17:46.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The fate of Sean Dubs\Nand Lonnie Bond, Jr.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:46.08,0:17:50.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is unknown, but Ng's cartoons\Nsuggest a horrifying end.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:57.89,0:18:02.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The children were perhaps\Ntortured to further gain
Dialogue: 0,0:18:02.54,0:18:06.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the compliance\Nof the women.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:06.15,0:18:08.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Brenda O'Connor, Kathy\NAllen, and possibly
Dialogue: 0,0:18:08.76,0:18:12.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Deborah Dubs were\Nimprisoned as M-Ladies,
Dialogue: 0,0:18:12.23,0:18:14.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,tortured and then killed.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:17.26,0:18:20.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The men were killed quite\Nquickly because they were
Dialogue: 0,0:18:20.58,0:18:24.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a physical threat\Nto Lake and Ng.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:24.16,0:18:26.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And again, the fact that\Nthey couldn't leave any
Dialogue: 0,0:18:26.86,0:18:31.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,witnesses led to the death\Nof many of these people.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:39.29,0:18:42.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But when Lake and Ng\Nabducted Paul Cosner,
Dialogue: 0,0:18:42.70,0:18:44.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they could not have reckoned on\Nthe desperate persistence
Dialogue: 0,0:18:44.94,0:18:46.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with which his sister,\NSharon Sellitto,
Dialogue: 0,0:18:46.100,0:18:49.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,would search for Paul.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:49.36,0:18:51.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My connection with the\NNg case is that, uh,
Dialogue: 0,0:18:51.79,0:18:57.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,my brother Paul Cosner was\None of their victims.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:57.30,0:19:04.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He put an ad in the\NChronicle in 1984 to sell a car,
Dialogue: 0,0:19:04.44,0:19:08.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a Honda Prelude,\Nand, uh, Leonard Lake
Dialogue: 0,0:19:08.17,0:19:10.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,answered that ad and\Ndecided my brother looked
Dialogue: 0,0:19:10.51,0:19:16.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,enough like him\Nto use his ID.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:16.32,0:19:18.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sharon reported Paul's\Ndisappearance to the
Dialogue: 0,0:19:18.14,0:19:20.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,police but was told\Nthey wouldn't look for a
Dialogue: 0,0:19:20.24,0:19:23.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,missing person over six\Nyears of age,
Dialogue: 0,0:19:23.69,0:19:27.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but they would look for\Na stolen car.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:27.02,0:19:29.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My brother's missing,\Nnobody cares at all or
Dialogue: 0,0:19:29.69,0:19:33.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,will even do anything, but\Na $5,000 stinking car is
Dialogue: 0,0:19:33.57,0:19:36.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,gone and you're gonna send\Nsomebody over right away.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:36.87,0:19:39.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So Sharon undertook her\Nown search, fly-posting
Dialogue: 0,0:19:39.52,0:19:42.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the city with\Npictures of Paul.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:42.46,0:19:44.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now I didn't sleep,\NI didn't eat.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:44.60,0:19:47.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I kept thinking if I could\Nthink of everything to do.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:54.56,0:19:58.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But it's like if I\Nforgot one thing, that it
Dialogue: 0,0:19:58.88,0:20:02.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,wouldn't work.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:02.64,0:20:05.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sharon's fight to find her\Nbrother was not completely
Dialogue: 0,0:20:05.13,0:20:06.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in vain.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:06.84,0:20:08.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,By reporting his car\Nmissing every month for
Dialogue: 0,0:20:08.84,0:20:12.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,seven months, she kept the\Nvehicle on the hot sheet,
Dialogue: 0,0:20:12.19,0:20:15.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and on June 2, 1985 this\Nwas instrumental in the
Dialogue: 0,0:20:15.64,0:20:18.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,capture of the men that\Nabducted her brother.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:22.74,0:20:25.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because on that day, Lake\Nand Ng went to a hardware
Dialogue: 0,0:20:25.09,0:20:29.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,store in San Francisco and\Nattempted to steal a vice.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:29.71,0:20:32.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When confronted, Ng fled\Nthe scene, leaving Lake to
Dialogue: 0,0:20:32.68,0:20:34.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,deal with the police.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:34.83,0:20:36.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,On checking the Honda\NPrelude Lake was driving,
Dialogue: 0,0:20:36.55,0:20:39.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the police found a gun\Nwith an illegal silencer.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:43.16,0:20:45.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,At the police station,\NLake was cautioned and
Dialogue: 0,0:20:45.02,0:20:47.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,asked for his\Nidentity card.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:49.19,0:20:52.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The car was traced to Paul\NCosner and the ID card to
Dialogue: 0,0:20:52.44,0:20:55.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,another missing\Nperson, Scott Stapley.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:56.39,0:20:58.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Determined not to be taken\Nalive, Lake swallowed two
Dialogue: 0,0:20:58.93,0:21:03.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,cyanide capsules he kept\Nsewn in the lapel of his jacket.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:03.42,0:21:05.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Before he poisoned\Nhimself, Lake wrote a
Dialogue: 0,0:21:05.57,0:21:09.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,suicide note to\NCricket, his ex-wife.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:09.42,0:21:12.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Dearest Cricket,\NI love you.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:12.00,0:21:13.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I forgive you.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:13.61,0:21:15.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Freedom is better\Nthan all else.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:15.81,0:21:18.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Love, Leonard.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:18.45,0:21:20.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Before he lost\Nconsciousness,
Dialogue: 0,0:21:20.09,0:21:24.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lake gave the police Ng's name.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:24.45,0:21:25.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Mr. Ng is very clear.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:25.76,0:21:30.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He believes that, uh, he\Nwas given up by Leonard
Dialogue: 0,0:21:30.28,0:21:34.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lake in order to give time\Nfor Cricket to get away,
Dialogue: 0,0:21:34.57,0:21:38.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and for her also to,\Nuh, dispose of whatever
Dialogue: 0,0:21:38.68,0:21:43.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,evidence there may\Nbe up at Wilseyville.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:43.02,0:21:46.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But Ng was not completely\Nbetrayed, Cricket took him
Dialogue: 0,0:21:46.20,0:21:49.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,downtown to collect\Nhis clothes and guns.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:49.03,0:21:52.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then she drove him to San\NFrancisco Airport,
Dialogue: 0,0:21:52.07,0:21:55.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and while Lake was unconscious\Nin hospital, Ng escaped.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:58.62,0:22:00.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Cricket had called and\Ntold me that Lenny had
Dialogue: 0,0:22:00.48,0:22:02.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,swallowed his\Ncyanide capsule.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:02.92,0:22:05.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He was on life support.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:05.13,0:22:09.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So about midnight that\Nnight, my mother and my
Dialogue: 0,0:22:09.69,0:22:15.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,younger sister\Nand I went to Kaiser/Cosner,
Dialogue: 0,0:22:15.70,0:22:17.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and there were\Ndetectives waiting for us
Dialogue: 0,0:22:17.49,0:22:20.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the waiting room of the\NIntensive Care Unit who
Dialogue: 0,0:22:20.57,0:22:24.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,wanted to ask us questions\Nabout Lenny, and, of course,
Dialogue: 0,0:22:24.07,0:22:28.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at this point, we\Nhad no idea of anything
Dialogue: 0,0:22:28.46,0:22:31.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that was about to unfold.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:31.29,0:22:34.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Within the four days it\Ntook Leonard Lake to die,
Dialogue: 0,0:22:34.46,0:22:36.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this insignificant\Nshoplifting incident grew
Dialogue: 0,0:22:36.90,0:22:41.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,into a horrifying\Ncase of mass murder.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:41.34,0:22:43.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Police had searched Paul\NCosner's car and found
Dialogue: 0,0:22:43.71,0:22:46.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,bullet holes as well as\Nan electricity bill in the
Dialogue: 0,0:22:46.29,0:22:48.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,name of Cricket Balazs\Nthat linked her to the
Dialogue: 0,0:22:48.90,0:22:51.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Wilseyville property.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:51.64,0:22:56.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,After being questioned by\Nthe police, Cricket took her chance.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:56.33,0:22:58.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was June 3rd.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:58.08,0:23:00.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was the day after my\Nbrother swallowed the
Dialogue: 0,0:23:00.23,0:23:05.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,cyanide capsule that Cricket came to my mother's house.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:05.50,0:23:06.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She was very nervous.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:06.72,0:23:09.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She was very agitated.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:09.08,0:23:11.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She actually asked me\Nto go up with her to the
Dialogue: 0,0:23:11.39,0:23:15.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Wilseyville house to what\Nshe said get some personal
Dialogue: 0,0:23:15.56,0:23:18.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,belongings out of the\Nhouse that she did not
Dialogue: 0,0:23:18.82,0:23:21.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,want the police to see.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:21.76,0:23:24.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lake's sister refused\Nto go with Cricket, but
Dialogue: 0,0:23:24.13,0:23:28.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lake's mother agreed.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:28.36,0:23:31.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And my mother told me\Nlater that she filled
Dialogue: 0,0:23:31.42,0:23:36.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,several cardboard boxes\Nof things, including videotapes.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:44.13,0:23:48.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The next day, police went\Nwith Cricket up to Lake's house,
Dialogue: 0,0:23:48.50,0:23:50.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but there was no\Nway they could ever have
Dialogue: 0,0:23:50.14,0:23:52.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,imagined the magnitude\Nof the crimes they would
Dialogue: 0,0:23:52.18,0:23:54.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,uncover there.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:54.16,0:24:00.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The case just started,\Njust mushrooming up from there,
Dialogue: 0,0:24:00.19,0:24:01.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and when the\NInspector from San
Dialogue: 0,0:24:01.14,0:24:04.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Francisco found that video\Nequipment to the Dubs family,
Dialogue: 0,0:24:04.74,0:24:09.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think that's when things really started to roll.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:09.36,0:24:11.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The police found bullet\Nholes and blood stains in
Dialogue: 0,0:24:11.77,0:24:14.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the house.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:14.40,0:24:16.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is the bed with the\Nsides had the four holes
Dialogue: 0,0:24:16.78,0:24:19.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or the two holes for each\Nhand, that looked like
Dialogue: 0,0:24:19.38,0:24:22.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,were used for restraint.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:22.17,0:24:24.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And next to the bed was\Nthe video camera stolen
Dialogue: 0,0:24:24.26,0:24:29.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from the Dubs family, the\Ncamera Lake had used to
Dialogue: 0,0:24:29.71,0:24:32.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,film the building of his\Nbunker and the execution
Dialogue: 0,0:24:32.14,0:24:34.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of his crimes.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:37.88,0:24:47.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, here it is, a cut on\Nthe earth about 21 feet across.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:47.49,0:24:49.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The backhoe worked\Nfor 24 hours.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:49.63,0:24:53.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Myself and two young men\Nwith our little picks and
Dialogue: 0,0:24:53.00,0:24:55.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,shovels and wheelbarrows\Nworked for another three
Dialogue: 0,0:24:55.63,0:24:58.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or four days.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:58.71,0:25:01.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Cricket became more\Nnervous with every find
Dialogue: 0,0:25:01.58,0:25:03.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and refused to let\Nthe police search the
Dialogue: 0,0:25:03.69,0:25:06.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,padlocked bunker\Nclose to the house.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:08.84,0:25:11.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Later on that day, we, uh,\Nwe the brought the search
Dialogue: 0,0:25:11.59,0:25:14.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,warrant to the residence\Nand took a look around the
Dialogue: 0,0:25:14.28,0:25:20.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,grounds, and at that point in time there was a, uh, a tool shed.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:22.81,0:25:26.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It had all the regular\Ntools, just a typical workshop.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:26.57,0:25:30.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it was from there,\Ndetectives, after looking at it,
Dialogue: 0,0:25:30.15,0:25:32.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,noticed that the\Nwall went farther back
Dialogue: 0,0:25:32.14,0:25:33.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,into the hillside.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:33.70,0:25:35.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then as they dug\Naround a little more,
Dialogue: 0,0:25:35.77,0:25:37.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they found that there was quite\Na bit of the building that
Dialogue: 0,0:25:37.59,0:25:39.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,went back into the dirt.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:39.60,0:25:42.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, that made them think,\Nwell, how do you get in.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:42.09,0:25:47.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And they started looking and they found a secret passageway.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:47.48,0:25:49.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What we're looking at is\Nwhat has been as described
Dialogue: 0,0:25:49.35,0:25:53.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as the inner cell\Narea of this bunker.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:53.16,0:25:55.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As you can see, the door\Nwas hidden with a two false,
Dialogue: 0,0:25:55.68,0:25:57.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,three\Nfalse shelves.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:57.46,0:25:59.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The inner cell of the\Nbunker was actually two
Dialogue: 0,0:25:59.58,0:26:01.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,different compartments.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:01.94,0:26:05.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In the first, they found a copy of The Collector. Attached
Dialogue: 0,0:26:05.35,0:26:07.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the wall\Nwere photographs of 21
Dialogue: 0,0:26:07.22,0:26:11.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,semi-clothed young women.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:11.16,0:26:13.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A two-way mirror provided\Na spy hole into the second
Dialogue: 0,0:26:13.76,0:26:19.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,compartment, which was, in fact, a tiny airless cell.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:24.59,0:26:27.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Next to the mirror was a\Nnight sight, allowing Lake
Dialogue: 0,0:26:27.06,0:26:30.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to see into the darkness.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:30.98,0:26:34.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So actually in the cell,\Nif you go in there,
Dialogue: 0,0:26:34.51,0:26:37.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and close the door, and turn\Nthe lights on, it's very
Dialogue: 0,0:26:37.26,0:26:39.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,much like being\Nin a mineshaft.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:39.10,0:26:41.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's just pitch black,\Nand you can't hear.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:53.86,0:26:58.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The police assumed that people had been held captive here,
Dialogue: 0,0:26:58.10,0:26:59.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but who were they?
Dialogue: 0,0:26:59.74,0:27:02.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And why were they held?
Dialogue: 0,0:27:04.86,0:27:07.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lake had buried evidence\Nin front of the bunker
Dialogue: 0,0:27:07.01,0:27:11.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that would enable the\Npolice to unravel this mystery.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:11.52,0:27:13.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The discovered Lake's\Njournal, detailing the
Dialogue: 0,0:27:13.62,0:27:17.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,last 18 months of his\Nlife, and his philosophy tape,
Dialogue: 0,0:27:17.50,0:27:21.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,expounding his\Nplans for Project Miranda.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:21.74,0:27:23.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But most chilling was\Na video labeled
Dialogue: 0,0:27:23.75,0:27:27.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"The M-Ladies Tape," filmed in\NLake's house, and showing
Dialogue: 0,0:27:27.66,0:27:32.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lake and Ng torturing\Ninnocent women.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:32.11,0:27:34.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you don't go along with\Nus, we'll probably take
Dialogue: 0,0:27:34.53,0:27:38.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you into bed, tie you\Ndown, rape you, shoot you,
Dialogue: 0,0:27:38.43,0:27:41.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and bury you.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:41.78,0:27:44.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What appears interesting\Nis, at least of the two
Dialogue: 0,0:27:44.05,0:27:47.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,M-Ladies that we know,\Nthat they were not as easy
Dialogue: 0,0:27:47.45,0:27:52.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to control as Leonard had\Nthought, and thus, I, uh,
Dialogue: 0,0:27:52.60,0:27:58.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think their deaths\Nwere premature.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:58.32,0:28:01.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,At first, police had no\Nidea who these two women
Dialogue: 0,0:28:01.04,0:28:05.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,were or whether they were\Nalive or dead, until they
Dialogue: 0,0:28:05.28,0:28:08.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,found a trench that was 50\Nyards long and contained
Dialogue: 0,0:28:08.39,0:28:10.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the driving licenses of\NKathy Allen and Brenda
Dialogue: 0,0:28:10.55,0:28:15.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,O'Connor, the two women\Non the M-Ladies tape.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:15.60,0:28:17.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Amongst hundreds of\Nother items of personal
Dialogue: 0,0:28:17.59,0:28:21.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,belongings, the police\Nalso found Paul Cosner's ID,
Dialogue: 0,0:28:21.55,0:28:24.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and evidence that\NBrenda's best friend had
Dialogue: 0,0:28:24.67,0:28:27.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,also perished.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:32.95,0:28:35.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it was right in here\Nthat they found articles
Dialogue: 0,0:28:35.64,0:28:37.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of clothing belonging to\Nsome of our victims,
Dialogue: 0,0:28:37.41,0:28:40.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one of them being\NScott Stapley.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:40.22,0:28:42.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He had a shirt that had\Nhis name Scott written
Dialogue: 0,0:28:42.24,0:28:43.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,above the pocket.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:43.97,0:28:46.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The property was literally\Nstrewn with human bone
Dialogue: 0,0:28:46.22,0:28:50.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that had been\Nburnt or crushed.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:50.68,0:28:53.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And this is a plot, or\Nplot five, and in this
Dialogue: 0,0:28:53.99,0:28:56.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,area it appeared that they\Nwould bring the ashes down
Dialogue: 0,0:28:56.77,0:29:01.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and just throw 'em out.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:01.89,0:29:03.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It took police eight weeks\Nto sift through these
Dialogue: 0,0:29:03.81,0:29:05.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,grizzly remains.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:09.71,0:29:13.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We found some teeth, we\Nfound some baby teeth,
Dialogue: 0,0:29:13.33,0:29:17.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so we knew there was, at\Nleast one child that had
Dialogue: 0,0:29:17.53,0:29:19.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,been murdered as well.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:29.22,0:29:34.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We wound up with probably\Nabout 45 pounds of this
Dialogue: 0,0:29:34.16,0:29:40.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,bone that could constitute\Nas many as six or eight humans.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:40.63,0:29:43.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, we knew that we had\Na large number of people
Dialogue: 0,0:29:43.79,0:29:46.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that had been killed.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:48.03,0:29:51.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,At this point, only six\Nidentifiable bodies had
Dialogue: 0,0:29:51.04,0:29:52.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,been found.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:52.55,0:29:55.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,From the bones and other\Nevidence, they estimated
Dialogue: 0,0:29:55.09,0:29:59.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at least another\N17 victims.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:59.31,0:30:02.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They dug a big section\Nlike this out...
Dialogue: 0,0:30:02.45,0:30:05.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Three weeks later, the\Npolice found more bodies,
Dialogue: 0,0:30:05.91,0:30:08.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of two men, released into\Nthe woods, and then hunted
Dialogue: 0,0:30:08.77,0:30:13.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,down for sport and shot\Nas they tried to escape.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:15.31,0:30:18.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One of the bodies had\Nhandcuffs, had ligatures.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:18.18,0:30:21.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Both of these\Nvictims were shot.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:23.55,0:30:26.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it was right down in\Nthis area that there were
Dialogue: 0,0:30:26.71,0:30:30.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,tuffs of fabric and\Nmaterial on the ground
Dialogue: 0,0:30:30.46,0:30:34.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that had been dug up by\Npredators, and that's
Dialogue: 0,0:30:34.07,0:30:38.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where the bodies of Lonnie\NBond and Scott Stapley were found.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:39.73,0:30:42.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The pistol was shoved down\Nhis throat, and it was
Dialogue: 0,0:30:42.76,0:30:44.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,rammed around, breaking\Nall of his teeth out,
Dialogue: 0,0:30:44.69,0:30:46.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then he was shot.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:46.64,0:30:49.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It just makes us shudder\Nto think of the torture
Dialogue: 0,0:30:49.78,0:30:52.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and what he must have\Nbeen going through.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:54.44,0:30:56.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why did this have to\Nhappen to these people and
Dialogue: 0,0:30:56.24,0:31:02.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,two men causing such\Ntragedy in the lives of so
Dialogue: 0,0:31:02.86,0:31:07.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,many people, and not just\Nthe family lives of the
Dialogue: 0,0:31:07.09,0:31:09.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,victims but other people\Nwho were affected during
Dialogue: 0,0:31:09.16,0:31:11.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the investigation?
Dialogue: 0,0:31:11.59,0:31:12.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's been hot\Nand tedious....
Dialogue: 0,0:31:12.31,0:31:14.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For the victim's families,\Ntheir fight for justice
Dialogue: 0,0:31:14.27,0:31:16.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was just beginning.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:16.67,0:31:19.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Many had no loved\Nones to bury.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:19.82,0:31:22.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The police had no\Nsuspects to question.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:22.79,0:31:25.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the families' pain was\Nbeing made all too public
Dialogue: 0,0:31:25.19,0:31:26.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by the media.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:26.100,0:31:29.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And my answer machine was\Nblinking, and I turn it
Dialogue: 0,0:31:29.40,0:31:32.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on, and they said, uh,\NMr. and Mrs. Stapley,
Dialogue: 0,0:31:32.56,0:31:35.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this is so-and-so from\Nsuch-and-such television
Dialogue: 0,0:31:35.10,0:31:37.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,station in San Francisco.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:37.82,0:31:40.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We would like to talk to\Nyou about your son Robin
Dialogue: 0,0:31:40.11,0:31:42.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the murders in\NCalaveras County.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:42.25,0:31:44.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Our telephone number\Nis blah-bla-bla-blah.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:44.47,0:31:46.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Please call us.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:46.12,0:31:47.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But today we have\Npictures, pictures that
Dialogue: 0,0:31:47.94,0:31:49.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,will probably\Nleave many....
Dialogue: 0,0:31:49.44,0:31:54.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We were watching the news\None night and all of a sudden,
Dialogue: 0,0:31:54.44,0:31:57.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on the TV, there's\Nmy daughter sitting in the
Dialogue: 0,0:31:57.31,0:32:02.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,chair, in shackles, and\Nhim cutting her clothes off,
Dialogue: 0,0:32:02.74,0:32:05.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and she was\Nbegging for the baby.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:06.55,0:32:09.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These are some of the bone\Nfragments that have been found.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:09.11,0:32:10.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Pieces of human beings.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:10.76,0:32:12.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Investigators say\Nthere are countless...
Dialogue: 0,0:32:12.27,0:32:15.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And they just\Nkept talking.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:15.87,0:32:18.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They showed their hands on\Nthe TV at night and they
Dialogue: 0,0:32:18.88,0:32:23.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,would have marble-sized\Nchunks of bone,
Dialogue: 0,0:32:24.09,0:32:26.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you didn't know if it\Nwas Paul, you know.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:29.46,0:32:35.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But in nobody's wildest\Nimagination did we expect
Dialogue: 0,0:32:35.10,0:32:38.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it to be this bad\Nand this horrible.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:40.86,0:32:42.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The shocking discoveries\Nat Wilseyville had left
Dialogue: 0,0:32:42.96,0:32:45.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the police with many\Nquestions,
Dialogue: 0,0:32:45.38,0:32:49.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the victims' relatives\Nreeling, desperate for justice.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:49.89,0:32:52.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But Lake was dead, and\NCricket refused to give
Dialogue: 0,0:32:52.58,0:32:55.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,any information\Nwithout immunity.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:55.14,0:32:58.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That left Charles Ng,\Nand he had vanished.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:01.85,0:33:06.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,An international\Nmanhunt was underway.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:06.21,0:33:09.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then on July 6, 1985, Ng\Nattempted to shoplift from
Dialogue: 0,0:33:09.82,0:33:14.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Hudson Bay Department\NStore Calgary in Canada.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:14.48,0:33:16.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He was arrested.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:16.13,0:33:19.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Within hours, FBI agents\Nwere in Calgary to verify
Dialogue: 0,0:33:19.46,0:33:24.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that this man was Charles\NNg and to take him back to California.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:24.27,0:33:26.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But the Canadian\NGovernment refused to
Dialogue: 0,0:33:26.05,0:33:28.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,expedite Ng to a State\Nwhere he could face the
Dialogue: 0,0:33:28.29,0:33:30.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,death penalty.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:31.42,0:33:34.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It took six years of\Ncampaigning by Sharon Sellitto
Dialogue: 0,0:33:34.02,0:33:36.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and other\Nvictims' relatives as well
Dialogue: 0,0:33:36.30,0:33:38.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as political wrangling\Nbetween governments before
Dialogue: 0,0:33:38.70,0:33:42.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ng faced an\Nextradition hearing.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:42.00,0:33:43.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He doesn't have\Nany rights.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:43.20,0:33:46.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He made a decision, and it\Nwas the wrong one,
Dialogue: 0,0:33:46.06,0:33:49.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he deserves to suffer\Nthe consequences.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:49.92,0:33:52.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Once the expedition was\Ngranted, Ng was on a plane
Dialogue: 0,0:33:52.49,0:33:56.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,back to California\Nwithin the hour.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:56.52,0:33:59.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I knew that they had\Nthis Ng taskforce all the time,
Dialogue: 0,0:33:59.98,0:34:02.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this whole six years\Nthat he'd been in Canada.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:02.82,0:34:05.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They were just gonna kind\Nof have to pick him up and
Dialogue: 0,0:34:05.97,0:34:10.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,dust him off and the\Nprocess would begin.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:10.57,0:34:13.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And, um, that's\Nnot what happened.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:16.30,0:34:19.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The next seven years saw\Na succession of delays due
Dialogue: 0,0:34:19.42,0:34:21.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to mismanagement of\Nthe case and Ng turning
Dialogue: 0,0:34:21.67,0:34:24.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,jailhouse lawyer.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:24.67,0:34:28.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ng isn't even an American\Ncitizen, and he's managed
Dialogue: 0,0:34:28.20,0:34:32.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to use our legal system\Nbetter and longer than any
Dialogue: 0,0:34:32.39,0:34:35.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,criminal in the history of\Nthe United States that was
Dialogue: 0,0:34:35.85,0:34:37.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,born here.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:37.97,0:34:45.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He, um, changed attorneys\Nlike he changed his socks.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:45.15,0:34:47.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Five teams of defense\Nlawyers, seven judges,
Dialogue: 0,0:34:47.62,0:34:50.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and three trial start\Ndates came and went.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:50.92,0:34:54.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Finally in 1994, Ng was\Ngiven the lawyer that
Dialogue: 0,0:34:54.53,0:34:56.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,would defend him at trial.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:56.77,0:35:01.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was appointed Charles\NNg's lawyer in November of 1994.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:01.13,0:35:02.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Immediately, I\Nwent up to
Dialogue: 0,0:35:02.83,0:35:04.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Calaveras County just to get a sense
Dialogue: 0,0:35:04.50,0:35:08.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of how large the file was, and I was, of course, dumbstruck.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:08.84,0:35:12.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Six tons of paper and\Nmachinery and bookshelves,
Dialogue: 0,0:35:12.33,0:35:13.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and all that.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:13.35,0:35:14.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Probably four tons paper.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:14.25,0:35:15.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's what we estimated.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:15.75,0:35:18.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ng had been charged with\Nthe murder of 12 of the 25
Dialogue: 0,0:35:18.24,0:35:20.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Wilseyville victims.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:20.64,0:35:24.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Kelley needed three years\Nto prepare this huge case.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:25.97,0:35:28.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then we realized that we\Nhad waited 14 years for a
Dialogue: 0,0:35:28.66,0:35:33.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,trial that was a farce.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:33.04,0:35:42.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They had spent 20 million dollars, um, putting this together,
Dialogue: 0,0:35:42.18,0:35:44.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,um, for what?
Dialogue: 0,0:35:44.58,0:35:48.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was unbelievable.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:48.38,0:35:51.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is ludicrous for this\Ndefendant to come to court
Dialogue: 0,0:35:51.14,0:35:53.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and ask for any release.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:53.09,0:35:56.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What we're looking at\Nnow is a motion for new trial...
Dialogue: 0,0:35:56.25,0:35:59.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ng did everything he could\Nto disrupt the trial.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:59.86,0:36:02.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He presented dozens of\Nmotions to the court,
Dialogue: 0,0:36:02.26,0:36:05.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,including complaints of\Ntravel sickness and bad food.
Dialogue: 0,0:36:05.84,0:36:10.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm sorry, Mr. Ng appears\Nto be sort of dozing off here.
Dialogue: 0,0:36:10.93,0:36:15.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Mr. Ng are you able to\Nlisten to what's going on?
Dialogue: 0,0:36:15.45,0:36:17.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No, I'm not able to\Nconcentrate, sir.
Dialogue: 0,0:36:17.54,0:36:18.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why?
Dialogue: 0,0:36:18.90,0:36:22.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm real tired.
Dialogue: 0,0:36:22.21,0:36:23.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How much sleep did\Nyou get last night?
Dialogue: 0,0:36:23.72,0:36:24.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I stayed up all night.
Dialogue: 0,0:36:24.90,0:36:26.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why?
Dialogue: 0,0:36:26.65,0:36:30.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I changed the motion\Nof, these motions, sir.
Dialogue: 0,0:36:30.22,0:36:33.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You were working on the\Nmotions that you filed today?
Dialogue: 0,0:36:33.53,0:36:35.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes.
Dialogue: 0,0:36:35.79,0:36:37.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Not much to pack.
Dialogue: 0,0:36:37.74,0:36:39.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The last straw came when\NNg telephoned a juror in
Dialogue: 0,0:36:39.99,0:36:43.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,an effort to\Ncause a mistrial.
Dialogue: 0,0:36:43.23,0:36:46.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,After I found out that it\Nwas, in fact, Charles Ng
Dialogue: 0,0:36:46.38,0:36:50.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that had called me and\Nhad been able to reach out
Dialogue: 0,0:36:50.68,0:36:55.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from his cell and\Nget into my house.
Dialogue: 0,0:36:55.55,0:36:59.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it's scary.
Dialogue: 0,0:36:59.76,0:37:02.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He doesn't belong here.
Dialogue: 0,0:37:02.01,0:37:05.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I couldn't just leave\Nit at court anymore.
Dialogue: 0,0:37:05.17,0:37:09.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was at home with me\Nnow, and I resent that.
Dialogue: 0,0:37:11.49,0:37:14.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Leonard Lake clearly had\Na great deal of influence
Dialogue: 0,0:37:14.85,0:37:16.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,over Mr. Ng...
Dialogue: 0,0:37:16.37,0:37:18.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The victims' relatives\Nendured eight months of
Dialogue: 0,0:37:18.59,0:37:21.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,horrific evidence and\Na defense case that
Dialogue: 0,0:37:21.23,0:37:24.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,presented Lake as the\Nmanipulator and Ng merely
Dialogue: 0,0:37:24.05,0:37:25.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,an accomplice.
Dialogue: 0,0:37:25.70,0:37:29.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The evidence fails to show that he was an actual killer.
Dialogue: 0,0:37:29.76,0:37:31.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The one person who\Nknew the truth was not
Dialogue: 0,0:37:31.64,0:37:34.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,questioned in the trial by\Neither side for fear she
Dialogue: 0,0:37:34.47,0:37:37.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,would damage their case.
Dialogue: 0,0:37:37.20,0:37:39.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But despite damning\Nevidence, Cricket Balazs
Dialogue: 0,0:37:39.73,0:37:44.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,had been given immunity\Non 19 counts of murder.
Dialogue: 0,0:37:48.04,0:37:49.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She knew what\Nwas going on.
Dialogue: 0,0:37:49.09,0:37:50.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think she procured.
Dialogue: 0,0:37:50.96,0:37:53.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Girl, I think she lured\Npeople up there for them,
Dialogue: 0,0:37:53.95,0:37:57.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I think, um, she was a\Nwilling participant, also.
Dialogue: 0,0:37:57.70,0:37:59.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Um... let's see.
Dialogue: 0,0:37:59.20,0:38:02.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We've talked about\Nunderage performers, and...
Dialogue: 0,0:38:02.65,0:38:06.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's one particular\Nconversation where Cricket
Dialogue: 0,0:38:06.71,0:38:10.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is actually seen looking at photographic albums of young girls.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:10.61,0:38:14.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,...But I've seen some\Nawfully cute-looking girls
Dialogue: 0,0:38:14.04,0:38:21.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- 14, 15 year\Nolds that I .... watching them
Dialogue: 0,0:38:21.26,0:38:23.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,do something interesting.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:23.54,0:38:26.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And they mention, uh,\Nmaking some of the girls
Dialogue: 0,0:38:26.36,0:38:28.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at the school\Ndisappear at that time.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:28.32,0:38:31.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Cricket was a teacher's\Naide at a school.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:31.61,0:38:33.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think it was\Na high school.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:33.75,0:38:37.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They're actually talking\Nabout making people disappear.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:37.47,0:38:38.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But the immunity\Nagreement stood.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:38.83,0:38:39.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, she, you know,\Nthey couldn't prove that
Dialogue: 0,0:38:39.88,0:38:45.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,she lied, and so there it\Nwas, and so off she went.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:45.48,0:38:47.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So the prosecution could\Nget Cricket Balazs to
Dialogue: 0,0:38:47.72,0:38:49.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,court, but they could not\Nrisk questioning her on
Dialogue: 0,0:38:49.65,0:38:51.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the stand.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:51.90,0:38:53.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But they did have two\Npieces of evidence that
Dialogue: 0,0:38:53.87,0:38:56.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,were damning proof of\NNg's true roll in the
Dialogue: 0,0:38:56.43,0:38:59.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Wilseyville murders.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:59.52,0:39:02.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, unfortunately, Ng did\Na number of drawings, some
Dialogue: 0,0:39:02.67,0:39:07.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of which specifically were\Nconnected to the victims
Dialogue: 0,0:39:07.05,0:39:08.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the trial.
Dialogue: 0,0:39:08.70,0:39:11.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As pieces of evidence, uh,\Nthey were not good from my
Dialogue: 0,0:39:11.85,0:39:13.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,perspective.
Dialogue: 0,0:39:13.64,0:39:18.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What you have here is\Ntwo individuals, and it
Dialogue: 0,0:39:18.43,0:39:21.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,appears that what they are\Ndoing is they are dropping
Dialogue: 0,0:39:21.12,0:39:24.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this person into a fire.
Dialogue: 0,0:39:24.88,0:39:28.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We just don't want to\Nbelieve that these two men
Dialogue: 0,0:39:28.44,0:39:32.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,were capable of taking\Nliving human beings and
Dialogue: 0,0:39:32.63,0:39:35.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,placing them into a fire,\Nbecause we know from the
Dialogue: 0,0:39:35.50,0:39:38.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,fourth picture that they\Nwere awake because they
Dialogue: 0,0:39:38.25,0:39:44.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,were able to speak when\Nthey were placed in the fire.
Dialogue: 0,0:39:48.46,0:39:51.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Few of the victims'\Nbodies were ever found.
Dialogue: 0,0:39:51.31,0:39:53.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just the crushed bones\Nfrom the many burn sites
Dialogue: 0,0:39:53.99,0:39:59.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,scattered around\Nthe property.
Dialogue: 0,0:39:59.31,0:40:01.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,However the evidence that\Nfinally proved Ng's guilt
Dialogue: 0,0:40:01.73,0:40:04.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the jury was\Nthe M-Ladies tape.
Dialogue: 0,0:40:04.72,0:40:06.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Kathy Allen and\Nthen Brenda O'Connor were
Dialogue: 0,0:40:06.58,0:40:09.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,kept prisoner in\Nthe bunker cell.
Dialogue: 0,0:40:09.63,0:40:13.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The videotape shows them brought to this room in Lake's house.
Dialogue: 0,0:40:13.24,0:40:15.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Their clothes were\Ncut off at knifepoint.
Dialogue: 0,0:40:15.64,0:40:18.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They were threatened with\Nrape, beatings, and the
Dialogue: 0,0:40:18.05,0:40:20.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,death of their babies\Nand themselves.
Dialogue: 0,0:40:20.99,0:40:22.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These tapes cannot be\Ntaken lock, stock,
Dialogue: 0,0:40:22.90,0:40:24.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and barrel the way it is.
Dialogue: 0,0:40:24.46,0:40:26.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is like the\Nthree scenes of them.
Dialogue: 0,0:40:26.57,0:40:29.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, the first scene\Nis Leonard Lake with Kathy Allen with me.
Dialogue: 0,0:40:29.02,0:40:32.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The second scene was a massage scene?
Dialogue: 0,0:40:32.18,0:40:33.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The third scene was\NLeonard Lake talking to,
Dialogue: 0,0:40:33.83,0:40:37.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,uh, Kathy Allen when I'm not on the property at all.
Dialogue: 0,0:40:37.59,0:40:42.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The fourth scene is the\NBrenda O'Connor scene with Leonard Lake, me.
Dialogue: 0,0:40:42.22,0:40:47.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's basically the\Ntotality of the tapes.
Dialogue: 0,0:40:47.19,0:40:52.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The tape that my daughter was on, it was a tape of torture.
Dialogue: 0,0:40:52.58,0:40:57.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Mental torture and him\Ncutting her clothes off
Dialogue: 0,0:40:57.10,0:41:02.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and everything, had a\Ntruly big effect on the jury.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:02.97,0:41:06.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The one juror still has\Nnightmares, still hears my
Dialogue: 0,0:41:06.49,0:41:08.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,daughter's voice.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:08.44,0:41:11.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And Brenda just wanted to\Nknow where her baby was,
Dialogue: 0,0:41:11.86,0:41:16.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they all\Nsleep like a rock.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:16.11,0:41:17.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And laughing at her.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:17.75,0:41:19.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And making fun of her.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:19.10,0:41:21.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then when they had her\Nstrip down to take her to
Dialogue: 0,0:41:21.96,0:41:25.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the shower, she got faint.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:25.03,0:41:27.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And Leonard Lake is over\Nthere, fondling her and
Dialogue: 0,0:41:27.44,0:41:30.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,pretending to be nice to\Nher and, oh, here, let me
Dialogue: 0,0:41:30.43,0:41:32.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,help you, and it\Njust made me sick.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:32.53,0:41:36.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It still makes me sick.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:36.06,0:41:37.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just, the tape only lasts,\NI mean, the segment that I
Dialogue: 0,0:41:37.83,0:41:41.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was involved in only\Nlasts, at the most, 20 minutes.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:41.05,0:41:44.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the prosecution tries\Nto tell the jury that this
Dialogue: 0,0:41:44.51,0:41:49.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,20 minutes, this is\Nthe real Charles Ng.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:49.04,0:41:51.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But there's no doubt that,\Nthat Charles Ng enjoyed
Dialogue: 0,0:41:51.90,0:41:53.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what he did.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:53.100,0:41:56.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And in his drawings, the\Ncartoons that he produced,
Dialogue: 0,0:41:56.86,0:42:01.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he does state in one\Nof them, "No kill, no thrill,"
Dialogue: 0,0:42:01.63,0:42:06.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which would suggest that, for him, the enjoyment,
Dialogue: 0,0:42:06.45,0:42:09.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what he got out\Nof the behavior that is
Dialogue: 0,0:42:09.27,0:42:16.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,exhibited on M-Ladies was\Nthe thrill of control.
Dialogue: 0,0:42:16.81,0:42:19.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The trial they had waited\N14 years for lasted eight
Dialogue: 0,0:42:19.48,0:42:23.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,months, and in February\N1999, the jury gave their
Dialogue: 0,0:42:23.23,0:42:26.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,verdicts on 12\Ncounts of murder.
Dialogue: 0,0:42:26.39,0:42:29.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For Sharon Sellitto,\Nthose verdicts proved a
Dialogue: 0,0:42:29.09,0:42:34.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,devastating end to her\Nlong fight for justice.
Dialogue: 0,0:42:34.05,0:42:37.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Before they ever even\Nstarted, my mother was
Dialogue: 0,0:42:37.08,0:42:41.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sitting there with her\Nhands in her lap,
Dialogue: 0,0:42:41.35,0:42:46.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,turned up, and the tears were\Njust running down her face
Dialogue: 0,0:42:46.11,0:42:54.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and filling up her hands,\Nand the court clerk got up
Dialogue: 0,0:42:54.99,0:42:59.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and read the verdicts.
Dialogue: 0,0:42:59.63,0:43:01.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We, the jury, in the above\Nentitled case,
Dialogue: 0,0:43:01.62,0:43:05.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,find the defendant, Charles\NChi-Tat Ng, guilty...
Dialogue: 0,0:43:09.23,0:43:11.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They go, you\Nknow, "Count one."
Dialogue: 0,0:43:11.51,0:43:13.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they go, "Guilty,\Nguilty, guilty, guilty,
Dialogue: 0,0:43:13.41,0:43:15.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,guilty, guilty, guilty,\Nguilty, guilty."
Dialogue: 0,0:43:15.36,0:43:16.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they'd say\N"Count two."
Dialogue: 0,0:43:16.97,0:43:20.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and go "Guilty..."
Dialogue: 0,0:43:20.15,0:43:23.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was 11 murder one's.
Dialogue: 0,0:43:23.13,0:43:29.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And a mistrial on Paul,\Nand I couldn't take it.
Dialogue: 0,0:43:29.48,0:43:32.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was like 124 damn\Nguilties and they couldn't
Dialogue: 0,0:43:32.48,0:43:37.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,do one stinking\Nguilty for Paul?
Dialogue: 0,0:43:37.01,0:43:39.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My name is David Douglass\NBond, I'm the brother of
Dialogue: 0,0:43:39.44,0:43:42.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lonnie Wayne Bond, and\Nthe uncle of Lonnie Wayne,
Dialogue: 0,0:43:42.67,0:43:48.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Jr. and, uh, brother-in-law of Brenda O'Connor.
Dialogue: 0,0:43:48.13,0:43:54.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In '85, Mr. Ng took their lives by murder, rape, and pillage.
Dialogue: 0,0:43:54.30,0:43:57.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Part of the punishment is\Nlistening to what you, to
Dialogue: 0,0:43:57.17,0:44:00.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the havoc that you have\Ncaused, the pain that
Dialogue: 0,0:44:00.63,0:44:03.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you've caused to the\Nfamilies, and that they
Dialogue: 0,0:44:03.64,0:44:05.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are your victims, too.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:05.87,0:44:08.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The baby was beautiful,\Nand he loved his grandpa.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:08.09,0:44:10.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He followed him all over.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:10.04,0:44:14.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,May God forgive me, but\NI want Charles Ng dead.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:14.08,0:44:16.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Everybody in that\Ncourtroom, every family
Dialogue: 0,0:44:16.52,0:44:20.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,member was the victim of\NCharles Ng and Leonard Lake.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:20.55,0:44:24.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't have any fancy\Nspeech to give you.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:24.18,0:44:26.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I just wanted to come up\Nhere and stand before you
Dialogue: 0,0:44:26.78,0:44:30.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and tell you that my\Nsister was loved and is
Dialogue: 0,0:44:30.36,0:44:34.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,missed very, very much.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:34.68,0:44:38.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There are times, many\Ntimes, Dwight and I cling to,
Dialogue: 0,0:44:38.38,0:44:41.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and hold each other,\Nand silently scream for
Dialogue: 0,0:44:41.70,0:44:44.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the unendurable loss\Nof our youngest son.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:44.49,0:44:47.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We sometimes cry for hours\Nand hours with longing to
Dialogue: 0,0:44:47.08,0:44:50.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,see our dear son,\NScott, again.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:50.28,0:44:52.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No one should ever have to\Nlose a child, especially
Dialogue: 0,0:44:52.96,0:44:55.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in such a sadistic manner.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:55.76,0:45:00.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Human beings deserve\Ndignity in death.
Dialogue: 0,0:45:00.98,0:45:04.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Deborah, Harvey and Sean\NDubs, Kathleen Allen,
Dialogue: 0,0:45:04.94,0:45:09.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Brenda O' Connor, Lonnie\Nand Lonnie Bond Jr.,
Dialogue: 0,0:45:09.62,0:45:13.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Scott Stapley, Clifford\NPeranteu, Jeff Gerald,
Dialogue: 0,0:45:13.45,0:45:16.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Michael Carroll, and my\Nbrother deserve to live.
Dialogue: 0,0:45:16.40,0:45:20.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And Charles Ng,\Nyou deserve to die.
Dialogue: 0,0:45:26.48,0:45:29.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Charles Chi Tat Ng, it is\Nthe judgment and sentence
Dialogue: 0,0:45:29.06,0:45:32.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of this court that you\Nshall be punished by death.
Dialogue: 0,0:45:32.72,0:45:35.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This penalty shall be\Ninflicted within the walls
Dialogue: 0,0:45:35.86,0:45:38.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the California State\NPrison in San Quentin,
Dialogue: 0,0:45:38.89,0:45:40.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,California.
Dialogue: 0,0:45:40.12,0:45:45.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You may show up proud\Nand fuck me, Judge.
Dialogue: 0,0:45:45.65,0:45:51.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Let alone the case is, Mr. Ng....
Dialogue: 0,0:46:02.14,0:46:05.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Charles Ng is now on death\Nrow in San Quentin Prison.
Dialogue: 0,0:46:05.75,0:46:10.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,His execution is unlikely\Nto happen within the next 15 years.
Dialogue: 0,0:46:10.67,0:46:15.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Leonard Lake is dead and\Nhas never been punished.
Dialogue: 0,0:46:15.39,0:46:19.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And Cricket Balazs is\Nenjoying a new life in San Francisco.
Dialogue: 0,0:46:25.39,0:46:28.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Most of the victims'\Nfamilies have no remains
Dialogue: 0,0:46:28.08,0:46:31.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to bury and so have never\Nbeen able to lay their
Dialogue: 0,0:46:31.39,0:46:35.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,loved ones to rest.
Dialogue: 0,0:46:35.00,0:46:39.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Remarkably, some can draw\Nhope from this terrible ordeal.
Dialogue: 0,0:46:39.39,0:46:41.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There have been good\Nthings happen to us all
Dialogue: 0,0:46:41.35,0:46:42.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the way through.
Dialogue: 0,0:46:42.55,0:46:44.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, people are good.
Dialogue: 0,0:46:44.24,0:46:47.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's a saying that no\Nmatter how anything evil happens,
Dialogue: 0,0:46:47.56,0:46:50.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,good will come of it.
Dialogue: 0,0:46:50.35,0:46:54.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And this has been just about as evil as anything can be,
Dialogue: 0,0:46:54.28,0:46:56.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and everything\Nwe've had is just as good
Dialogue: 0,0:46:56.22,0:46:59.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as anything could be.