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[New York Close Up]

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[Ruby Sky Stiler, Artista]

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[Daniel Gordon, Artista]

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[GORDON] Empezamos la escuela al mismo tiempo

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Ruby en escultura, y yo en fotografía

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y ella me gustó demasiado

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[STILER] Y, nos tomó algo de tiempo,

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porque ambos eramos muy tímidos

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[GORDON] Pero desde que nos juntamos

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Hemos estado juntos

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[STILER] Se ve tonta la pistola de pegamento de Dany , ¿verdad?

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[GORDON] No lo sé, digo yo...

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Para mí funciona

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[Danny y Ruby están casados]

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[GORDON] Digo, el arte es nuestra vida

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así que, el arte es personal

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Hice algunas cosas nuevas

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Como esta jarra era...

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está un poco apoyado a la derecha

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lo que no me importa

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pero me preocupa que

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era algo que molestaría a alguien más

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Estoy contactando a Ruby

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sin decirle exactamente qué es lo que me preocupa

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Porque, si lo ve

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y dice. "no me gusta así"

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probablemente haga de nuevo el cuadro

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[STILER] Esa es la única cosa que Danny...

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Creo que Danny y yo estamos bien juntos

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Es retroalimentarnos al desnudo [RISAS]

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GORDON] Mierda.

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Hmm.

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[STILER] Esta es la foto que te iba a mostrar

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¿Ves eso?

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Mira a esos bebés

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Oh, aquí puedes ver

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¿ves ese bebé?

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Es mío

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Y ese es Danny,

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Es lindo, ¿verdad?

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Pero no solo luce como él--

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Es todo el paquete.

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[RISAS]

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["Daniel Gordon y Ruby Sky Stiler dan pasos de bebé"]

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[Gus Stiler Gordon, Bebé]

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[GORDON] Antes de que Gus naciera...

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[STILER] Un día en el estudio

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Nos levantábamos a las 9, y

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[GORDON] Menos cuando surfeaba

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y al estudio

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que podía ser desde 2 hasta,

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tú sabes, 8 horas.

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O 10 horas

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[STILER] También hacemos mucho de noche

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[GORDON] Y, sí

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tragos con los amigos, o cena.

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[STILER] Hacer el amor por horas.

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[GORDON, RIENDO] Hacer el amor por horas.

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[GUS RÍE]

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[GORDON] Sí, es gracioso

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Y, vamos arriba

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[SONIDO BESOS]

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[STILER] Somos ambiciosos

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y queremos lograr cosas.

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Y, por años hemos estado como

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"Realmente no sabemos sobre tener hijos"

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"porque no queremos renunciar a nada"

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Eso fue algo grande para nosotros

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Entonces, nos dimos cuenta, que,

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"Maldita conversación".

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Es algo que no podemos controlar

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[GORDON] Si, es como, como

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Lo que sea

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Veremos qué pasa

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[STILER] Sí.

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[Gowanus, Brooklyn]

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[STILER] Estoy obsesionada con mi trabajo

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Esta la mitología de que

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debes sacrificar todo para ser madre

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Al menos, es lo que me heredaron

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así que creo que era algo, como

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una culpa muy grande para mí

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que decidí estar fuera de...

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fuera de la vida diaria de Gus

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y esa fue mi decisión.

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Y también, culpa de querer regresar al estudio

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[STILER] ¡Hola chicos!

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[GORDON] ¿Vas a pintarlos todos?

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[STILER] Sí, pero hay algo sobre el pintado

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que resalta...

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es algo extraño cuando lo digo,

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pero resalta, como , el...

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[GUS TOSE]

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[STILER] ¿Estás bien?

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[GORDON] ¿Estás bien?

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[SONIDO BESOS]

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[STILLER] Recuerdo cuando Danny regresó a trabajar, todos dijeron

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"Oh por Dios, eres un papá increíble"

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"Te tomaste 6 semanas, eso es genial".

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Y estaba recibiendo comentarios positivos

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Y cuando regresé -- a los 3 meses-- al estudio

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Recuerdo muchos comentarios como este:

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"Debe ser muy duro"

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Tenía miedo y ansiedad por perder mi identidad

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y lo que había conseguido hasta ahora

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