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[Events]
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Dialogue: 0,0:00:01.48,0:00:05.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[New York Close Up]
Dialogue: 0,0:00:05.46,0:00:08.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Ruby Sky Stiler, Artist]
Dialogue: 0,0:00:09.58,0:00:11.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Daniel Gordon, Artist]
Dialogue: 0,0:00:11.30,0:00:13.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[GORDON] We started grad school at the same\Ntime.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:13.41,0:00:16.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ruby was in sculpture, and I was in photo--
Dialogue: 0,0:00:16.20,0:00:18.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and had a big crush on her.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:20.50,0:00:23.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[STILER] And then, it took us a little while,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:23.77,0:00:26.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because we were both really shy.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:26.06,0:00:28.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[GORDON] But from the time that we got together,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:28.65,0:00:30.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we've just been together.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:30.08,0:00:32.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[STILER] This makes Danny's glue gun look\Nkind of lame, right?
Dialogue: 0,0:00:32.87,0:00:34.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[GORDON] I don't know, I mean I...
Dialogue: 0,0:00:34.73,0:00:35.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Works for me.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:36.90,0:00:38.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Danny and Ruby are married.]
Dialogue: 0,0:00:39.30,0:00:42.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[GORDON] I mean, art is so much of our life,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:42.76,0:00:45.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so, you know, art is the personal.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:46.56,0:00:49.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I kind of did some new things.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:49.42,0:00:51.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Like this vase was...
Dialogue: 0,0:00:51.93,0:00:54.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is just leaning slightly to the right--
Dialogue: 0,0:00:54.64,0:00:56.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which I don't mind,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:56.40,0:00:58.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I just started to worry that
Dialogue: 0,0:00:58.08,0:01:01.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it was something that would annoy somebody\Nelse.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:01.34,0:01:03.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, I'm texting Ruby
Dialogue: 0,0:01:03.50,0:01:07.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,without letting her know exactly what I'm\Nconcerned with,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:07.65,0:01:10.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So that, if she sees it,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:10.22,0:01:13.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and she says, "I don't like that,"
Dialogue: 0,0:01:13.28,0:01:15.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I would probably remake the picture.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:15.87,0:01:17.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[STILER] That's one thing that Danny...
Dialogue: 0,0:01:17.78,0:01:19.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think Danny and I do really well together,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:19.79,0:01:25.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is give each other really no-frills feedback.\N[LAUGHS]
Dialogue: 0,0:01:25.54,0:01:27.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[GORDON] Oh shit.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:32.82,0:01:33.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hmm.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:35.24,0:01:38.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[STILER] So, here's the picture that I was\Ngoing to show you.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:38.90,0:01:40.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Can you see that?
Dialogue: 0,0:01:40.43,0:01:42.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Look at all those babies.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:42.15,0:01:44.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Oh, here you can see.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:44.54,0:01:45.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,See that baby?
Dialogue: 0,0:01:45.68,0:01:46.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's mine.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:46.43,0:01:48.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that's Danny.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:48.59,0:01:50.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He's cute, right?
Dialogue: 0,0:01:50.98,0:01:53.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But it's not just looks with him--
Dialogue: 0,0:01:53.22,0:01:54.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's the whole package.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:55.32,0:01:56.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[LAUGHS]
Dialogue: 0,0:02:04.06,0:02:10.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,["Daniel Gordon and Ruby Sky Stiler Take Baby\NSteps"]
Dialogue: 0,0:02:11.94,0:02:15.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Gus Stiler Gordon, Baby]
Dialogue: 0,0:02:15.60,0:02:17.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[GORDON] Before Gus was born...
Dialogue: 0,0:02:17.89,0:02:19.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[STILER] Typical studio day...
Dialogue: 0,0:02:19.96,0:02:23.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We would wake up at 9, then...
Dialogue: 0,0:02:23.06,0:02:24.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[GORDON] Well, unless I went surfing.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:24.76,0:02:26.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then studio,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:26.82,0:02:29.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which could be anywhere from 2 to,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:29.08,0:02:31.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know, 8 hours.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:31.34,0:02:33.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Or 10 hours.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:33.03,0:02:35.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[STILER] We do a lot of stuff at night, too.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:35.29,0:02:37.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[GORDON] And then, yeah,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:37.56,0:02:40.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,drinks with friends, or dinner.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:40.56,0:02:42.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[STILER] Make love for hours.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:42.21,0:02:43.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[GORDON, LAUGHING] Make love for hours.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:43.95,0:02:44.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[GUS LAUGHS]
Dialogue: 0,0:02:44.82,0:02:46.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[GORDON] Yeah, that is funny!
Dialogue: 0,0:02:47.14,0:02:48.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And, up we go!
Dialogue: 0,0:02:48.79,0:02:50.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[KISSING SOUNDS]
Dialogue: 0,0:02:52.98,0:02:54.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[STILER] We're ambitious,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:54.14,0:02:56.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we want to accomplish things.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:56.35,0:02:59.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And, for years, we've been like,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:59.00,0:03:03.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Well, you know, we really don't know about\Nhaving a kid,"
Dialogue: 0,0:03:03.12,0:03:06.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"because neither one of us wants to give up\Nanything."
Dialogue: 0,0:03:06.44,0:03:08.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That was a big thing for us.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:08.66,0:03:10.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then, we realized, like,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:10.34,0:03:11.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Fuck this conversation."
Dialogue: 0,0:03:11.45,0:03:14.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Like, this is like, not something we can control.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:14.67,0:03:16.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[GORDON] Yeah, let's just... let's...
Dialogue: 0,0:03:16.89,0:03:17.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Whatever.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:18.25,0:03:19.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We'll see what happens.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:19.37,0:03:19.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[STILER] Yeah.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:19.97,0:03:22.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Gowanus, Brooklyn]
Dialogue: 0,0:03:31.62,0:03:36.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[STILER] I'm so completely obsessed with my\Nwork.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:37.98,0:03:40.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's this mythology that
Dialogue: 0,0:03:40.47,0:03:44.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you have to sacrifice everything to be a good\Nmom.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:45.98,0:03:49.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,At least that's the one that I inherited.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:50.90,0:03:52.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, so I think that there was, like,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:52.62,0:03:54.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a lot of extra guilt for me,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:54.62,0:03:57.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that I was choosing to take myself out of...
Dialogue: 0,0:03:57.88,0:03:59.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,out of Gus's daily life.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:59.82,0:04:01.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that was my decision.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:01.90,0:04:06.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then also, guilt that I really wanted\Nto go back to my studio.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:11.82,0:04:13.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[STILER] Hi, guys!
Dialogue: 0,0:04:15.94,0:04:17.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[GORDON] You're going to stain all of them?
Dialogue: 0,0:04:17.66,0:04:20.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[STILER] Yeah, but there is something about\Nthe staining
Dialogue: 0,0:04:20.94,0:04:21.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that brings out...
Dialogue: 0,0:04:21.86,0:04:23.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, this sounds really quaint when I say\Nit,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:23.98,0:04:26.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it brings out, like, the...
Dialogue: 0,0:04:26.04,0:04:26.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[GUS COUGHS]
Dialogue: 0,0:04:30.13,0:04:31.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[STILER] You okay?
Dialogue: 0,0:04:31.01,0:04:31.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[GORDON] You okay?
Dialogue: 0,0:04:35.54,0:04:36.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[KISSING SOUNDS]
Dialogue: 0,0:04:40.20,0:04:43.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[STILER] I remember, when Danny went back\Nto work, everyone would be like,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:43.12,0:04:44.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Oh my God, you're an amazing dad."
Dialogue: 0,0:04:44.94,0:04:47.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"You took six weeks off; that's so cool."
Dialogue: 0,0:04:47.34,0:04:50.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he was getting, like, a lot of positive\Nfeedback.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:50.94,0:04:53.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then when I went back to work--at three\Nmonths--to my studio,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:53.88,0:04:56.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I remember so many comments like this one:
Dialogue: 0,0:04:57.54,0:04:59.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"That must be so hard."
Dialogue: 0,0:05:00.16,0:05:06.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I had a lot more fear and anxiety about losing\Nmy identity,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:06.31,0:05:11.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and losing the things that I've managed to\Naccomplish so far--
Dialogue: 0,0:05:11.06,0:05:16.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and, like, my small foothold in being an artist\Nthat's working.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:16.30,0:05:19.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And Danny didn't have that kind of anxiety.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:19.29,0:05:25.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But, I think I was afraid I wouldn't be a\Ngood enough mom.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:25.31,0:05:29.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Whenever I would talk to women of a different\Ngeneration--
Dialogue: 0,0:05:29.00,0:05:30.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of an older generation--
Dialogue: 0,0:05:30.10,0:05:31.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the response would be like,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:31.43,0:05:35.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Well maybe you need to rethink your life\Nright now."
Dialogue: 0,0:05:35.03,0:05:39.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As opposed to what I really needed, which\Nwas reinforcement--
Dialogue: 0,0:05:39.09,0:05:42.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that I was not, like, fucking up my baby
Dialogue: 0,0:05:42.84,0:05:44.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and, you know, being selfish.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:44.50,0:05:45.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I don't know, Daniel,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:45.68,0:05:48.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, did you ever have any guilty feeling\Ngoing back?
Dialogue: 0,0:05:48.49,0:05:50.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because I remember you blasted out of here.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:50.42,0:05:52.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[GORDON] I was conflicted, I think,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:52.24,0:05:56.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when I first went back to work.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:56.37,0:05:58.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When there's less time, you just have to be\Nmore thoughtful
Dialogue: 0,0:05:58.56,0:06:02.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about how you spend it.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:02.32,0:06:04.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Even though it's maybe...
Dialogue: 0,0:06:04.41,0:06:06.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there's less available time,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:06.77,0:06:08.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I haven't got less done.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:08.47,0:06:09.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I really haven't.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:09.76,0:06:11.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[We are currently closed for installation.\NDaniel Gordon's exhibition "Screen Selections and Still Lifes" opens Thursday, October 30th...]
Dialogue: 0,0:06:11.72,0:06:13.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[GORDON] Is it ready?
Dialogue: 0,0:06:16.44,0:06:19.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[WALLSPACE, Chelsea]
Dialogue: 0,0:06:26.39,0:06:28.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah, I mean, like...
Dialogue: 0,0:06:29.70,0:06:30.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know...
Dialogue: 0,0:06:31.31,0:06:34.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I want them to read as individual works, but...
Dialogue: 0,0:06:35.66,0:06:38.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[STILER] But was this a decision, their spacing here?
Dialogue: 0,0:06:38.38,0:06:39.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because this feels kind of...
Dialogue: 0,0:06:40.62,0:06:41.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[GORDON] Yeah. Yeah.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:46.34,0:06:48.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[STILER] I think it looks so great.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:49.72,0:06:51.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[GORDON] Cool. You do?
Dialogue: 0,0:06:51.58,0:06:53.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[STILER] Mmm hmm. I love it.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:54.40,0:06:55.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I love it.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:08.54,0:07:11.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[GORDON] But, honestly, now having Gus,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:11.36,0:07:14.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's such a pleasure and a relief
Dialogue: 0,0:07:14.97,0:07:19.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to have some other thing that's very important,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:19.95,0:07:21.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that pulls you away from all that stuff.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:21.92,0:07:26.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, you can't obsess and take care of\NGus;
Dialogue: 0,0:07:26.39,0:07:28.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you have to obsess about Gus,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:28.07,0:07:30.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then you can obsess about the other stuff,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:30.14,0:07:31.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or whatever, you know,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:31.08,0:07:34.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like it's really nice to have
Dialogue: 0,0:07:34.84,0:07:38.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just this whole other amazing part.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:38.97,0:07:40.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's not about art;
Dialogue: 0,0:07:40.16,0:07:42.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's just about... I don't know...
Dialogue: 0,0:07:42.03,0:07:43.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's about...
Dialogue: 0,0:07:43.72,0:07:46.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Life and love and family
Dialogue: 0,0:07:46.95,0:07:49.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and all that good stuff.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:49.14,0:07:52.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[STILER] And, you know, eventually a studio\Nassistant.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:52.36,0:07:55.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[GORDON] Yeah, small hand labor as well, which...
Dialogue: 0,0:07:55.26,0:07:56.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[LAUGHING]
Dialogue: 0,0:07:56.10,0:07:59.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think that will come into play in a couple\Nof years, so...
Dialogue: 0,0:08:00.90,0:08:03.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[STILER] Okay, but don't be mad at me, okay\Nsweetie?
Dialogue: 0,0:08:03.30,0:08:03.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Alright?
Dialogue: 0,0:08:03.96,0:08:05.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[GORDON] What's this?
Dialogue: 0,0:08:05.94,0:08:10.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because I've been wondering all this time!
Dialogue: 0,0:08:10.58,0:08:13.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You got your pants all dirty, crazy guy.