1 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:14,000 OSHO 2 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:21,000 OSHO TALKS: silence shared in words 3 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:28,000 OSHO International Foundation presents 4 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:33,000 Making Love A Sacred Experience 5 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:41,000 Just a simple method of meditation to suggest to Latin lovers, 6 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:45,000 so they may find their way? 7 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:50,000 The simplest method 8 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:06,000 for lovers is, while they are making love 9 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:14,000 they should make it a 10 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:19,000 sacred experience. 11 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:26,000 All the religions have destroyed 12 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:32,000 the sacredness of love. 13 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:37,000 They have condemned it as sin. 14 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:42,000 And the conditioning has gone so deep 15 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:45,000 in the human mind 16 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:52,000 that people are making love in such a hurry, 17 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:58,000 as if 18 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:06,000 they want to finish it as quickly as possible. 19 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:11,000 Naturally, if it is a sin 20 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:18,000 it is better finished soon. 21 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:27,000 Their hearts are guilt-ridden, 22 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:31,000 their minds completely full of sin. 23 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:42,000 If lovers want to make love a meditative experience, 24 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:50,000 then the first thing is to drop the idea that it is sin, 25 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:54,000 that it is something wrong. 26 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:57,000 It is something 27 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:01,000 immensely beautiful, 28 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:06,000 a tremendous gift of nature, 29 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:13,000 of existence, for which you should not be guilty, 30 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:17,000 you should be grateful! 31 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:22,000 And to show your gratefulness 32 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:25,000 you have to make 33 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,000 a special place for it. 34 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:36,000 Every house and every couple which can afford it 35 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:43,000 should have a separate room just for love: 36 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:47,000 no other vibe there -- 37 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:51,000 no fight, no argument, 38 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:57,000 no throwing of pillows. 39 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:05,000 They should enter the room after taking a bath, 40 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:09,000 as if they are going into a temple. 41 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:13,000 The room should be full of 42 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:21,000 beautiful burning incense; 43 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:28,000 there should not be glaring lights -- 44 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:33,000 just candles, dim light. 45 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:38,000 And they should not be in a hurry, 46 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:47,000 because the foreplay is immensely important, 47 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:55,000 for the simple reason that the woman's whole body is erotic. 48 00:04:57,000 --> 00:05:02,000 Man's whole body is not erotic; 49 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:09,000 his sexuality is local, 50 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:12,000 just 51 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:17,000 limited to his genitalia. 52 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:24,000 But the woman's whole body is erotic, 53 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:29,000 and unless her whole body starts 54 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:34,000 throbbing 55 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:39,000 with joy, with ecstasy, 56 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:45,000 she will not have any orgasmic experience. 57 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:52,000 If the man plays enough with the woman's body, 58 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:58,000 the woman plays enough with the man's body... 59 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:02,000 and the meditation technique is: 60 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:07,000 while you are playing with each other's body, 61 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:09,000 remain a witness, 62 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:12,000 don't get identified. 63 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:17,000 So there are four persons, not two: 64 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:24,000 the woman and the witness inside, 65 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:28,000 the man and the witness inside. 66 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:35,000 The witness is simply watching what the man is doing to the woman, 67 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:38,000 what the woman is doing to the man. 68 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:41,000 The witness has no 69 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:49,000 judgment of good and bad; it is simply like a mirror, 70 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:53,000 showing what is happening. 71 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:58,000 This witnessing is nothing but awareness, 72 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:02,000 alertness, consciousness. 73 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:09,000 And particularly in the foreplay, 74 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:16,000 if you are conscious, alert, 75 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:20,000 then there is a possibility 76 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:25,000 you both will know the exact time 77 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:32,000 when your bodies are ready to make love. 78 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:38,000 You will feel the bio-electricity of each other's body. 79 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:51,000 When you start making love, don't be in a hurry. 80 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:58,000 Let the woman be always on top. 81 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:04,000 The missionary posture 82 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:08,000 is the worst posture in the whole world. 83 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:11,000 In the East 84 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:15,000 nobody knew before the Christians reached there 85 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:20,000 that the man can be on top of the woman. 86 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:23,000 It is so brutal, 87 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:29,000 it is so ugly. 88 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:32,000 The woman is delicate, 89 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:39,000 and a huge 90 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:42,000 animal 91 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:50,000 is doing pushups over the poor woman! 92 00:08:56,000 --> 00:09:00,000 In India it is called the missionary posture, 93 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:06,000 because it became known only when missionaries came to India. 94 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:11,000 They made India aware that this too is possible; 95 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:18,000 otherwise, the woman is always to be on top. 96 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:23,000 And scientifically 97 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:27,000 it is right that the woman should be on top, 98 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:32,000 because then she can be more active 99 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:37,000 and the man can be less active. 100 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:45,000 If the man is on top, the woman cannot be more active, 101 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:49,000 the man is more active. 102 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:56,000 If he is more active, he comes to his ejaculation very soon, 103 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:04,000 and the woman 104 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:13,000 has not yet come to the point where she can have an orgasm. 105 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:19,000 If the woman is on top and she is active, 106 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:22,000 and the man remains inactive, 107 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:27,000 there is every possibility 108 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:31,000 that by the time the woman 109 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:34,000 comes to orgasm 110 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:37,000 the man will be coming to orgasm. 111 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:45,000 And if both come to orgasm at the same time, 112 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:55,000 then there is a tremendous meeting and merging, 113 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:59,000 as if bodies disappear 114 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:05,000 and two souls are no longer two souls, 115 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:09,000 two beings are no longer two beings. 116 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:14,000 And the witnessing continues. 117 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:19,000 That is your inner work of meditation that goes on: 118 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:22,000 you are witnessing. 119 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:28,000 After 120 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:33,000 your orgasm has settled, 121 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:38,000 slowly slowly disappearing, watch it. 122 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:41,000 Watch as it is coming up, 123 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:47,000 watch as it explodes, 124 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:56,000 watch as it starts settling back again 125 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:59,000 to the normal 126 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:02,000 state of your bodies. 127 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:09,000 Then don't be in a hurry to separate from each other; 128 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:16,000 remain together for awhile. 129 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:25,000 In tantra that is called valley orgasm. 130 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:31,000 That is not known to millions of people. 131 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:37,000 The first orgasm was peak orgasm. 132 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:43,000 You had met together 133 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:47,000 on a peak of your energy, 134 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:52,000 now the peak has disappeared. 135 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:56,000 But every peak has a valley by its side; 136 00:12:56,000 --> 00:13:00,000 without a valley there can be no peak. 137 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:09,000 So if you can remain silently watching 138 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:13,000 together, 139 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:18,000 you will be amazed: 140 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:24,000 there is another orgasm with a totally different beauty, 141 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:27,000 a different depth, 142 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:31,000 a different joy -- 143 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:39,000 the valley orgasm. 144 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:46,000 Until the valley orgasm disappears and you come back again to normal, 145 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:48,000 don't separate. 146 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:55,000 Meanwhile, all the time the witnessing continues. 147 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:58,000 When you separate, 148 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:00,000 don't just 149 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:05,000 start going to sleep. 150 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:14,000 Something very essential is still there, 151 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:19,000 and that is the afterplay. 152 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:24,000 You have made such 153 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:31,000 a turmoil in the whole energy of each other's 154 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:36,000 bodies, minds, 155 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:44,000 that it is needed. You massage each other's body, 156 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:47,000 play with each other's body, 157 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:59,000 and have beautiful incense, flowers, candlelight, music... 158 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:03,000 if you feel like dancing, you dance. 159 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:06,000 But the witnessing continues. 160 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:15,000 Why am I insisting that witnessing continues? 161 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:24,000 I am emphasizing it because if you do it many times, 162 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:28,000 then one day you can try just witnessing, 163 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:33,000 without your man, without your woman -- alone. 164 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:35,000 In the same room, 165 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:38,000 in the same atmosphere, 166 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:42,000 with the same incense 167 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:47,000 which creates the same memories; 168 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:51,000 the same light, 169 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:55,000 the same milieu, 170 00:15:57,000 --> 00:16:01,000 you start simply witnessing, sitting there. 171 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:07,000 And you are in for a great surprise. 172 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:12,000 All that has been happening with the woman 173 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:15,000 starts happening 174 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:19,000 just inside you, 175 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:24,000 without the woman or without the man. 176 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:32,000 You start moving slowly to the peak orgasm -- 177 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:36,000 the same experience 178 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:41,000 with no physical, no biological expression -- 179 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:50,000 and you reach to the valley orgasm, 180 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:54,000 the same experience. 181 00:16:57,000 --> 00:17:02,000 You have learned meditation through love, 182 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:05,000 and you have also learned 183 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:08,000 love through meditation; 184 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:12,000 they will go on enriching each other. 185 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:18,000 This will bring maturity 186 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:23,000 to both the persons, 187 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:29,000 and the maturity will release 188 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:34,000 their repressed intelligence, 189 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:39,000 awareness, 190 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:44,000 lovingness, compassion. 191 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:54,000 And it will destroy jealousy, anger, hatred. 192 00:17:56,000 --> 00:18:00,000 It will bring tremendous changes in you. 193 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:03,000 Those changes will be the proof 194 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:06,000 that you are on the right track. 195 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:14,000 Source: The Last Testament, Vol.3, #14 Copyright © Osho International Foundation, Switzerland. 196 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:19,000 Music: Basho's Pond Copyright © Osho International Foundation, Switzerland.OSHO ® is a registered ™ 197 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:27,000 For more information, visit: www.osho.com