1 00:00:02,639 --> 00:00:04,114 It's easy to forget that last night, 2 00:00:04,114 --> 00:00:08,325 one billion people went to sleep without access to electricity. 3 00:00:08,325 --> 00:00:10,512 One billion people. 4 00:00:10,512 --> 00:00:13,505 Two and a half billion people did not have access 5 00:00:13,505 --> 00:00:15,553 to clean cooking fuels 6 00:00:15,553 --> 00:00:17,747 or clean heating fuels. 7 00:00:17,747 --> 00:00:21,134 Those are the problems in the developing world, 8 00:00:21,134 --> 00:00:24,324 and it's easy for us not to be empathetic with those people 9 00:00:24,324 --> 00:00:26,331 who seem so distant from us. 10 00:00:26,331 --> 00:00:29,585 But even in our own world, the developed world, 11 00:00:29,585 --> 00:00:33,480 we see the tension of stagnant economies 12 00:00:33,480 --> 00:00:36,393 impacting the lives of people around us. 13 00:00:36,393 --> 00:00:39,698 We see it in whole pieces of the economy, 14 00:00:39,698 --> 00:00:43,220 where the people involved have lost hope about the future 15 00:00:43,220 --> 00:00:45,529 and despair about the present. 16 00:00:45,529 --> 00:00:47,673 We see that in the Brexit vote. 17 00:00:47,673 --> 00:00:51,488 We see that in the Sanders/Trump campaigns in my own country. 18 00:00:51,488 --> 00:00:56,619 But even in countries as recently turning the corner 19 00:00:56,619 --> 00:00:58,657 towards being in the developed world, 20 00:00:58,657 --> 00:00:59,807 in China, 21 00:00:59,807 --> 00:01:02,407 we see the difficulty that President Xi has 22 00:01:02,407 --> 00:01:07,931 as he begins to unemploy so many people in his coal and mining industries 23 00:01:07,931 --> 00:01:11,366 who see no future for themselves. 24 00:01:11,366 --> 00:01:14,392 As we as a society figure out how to manage 25 00:01:14,392 --> 00:01:16,267 the problems of the developed world 26 00:01:16,267 --> 00:01:18,259 and the problems of the developing world, 27 00:01:18,259 --> 00:01:21,131 we have to look at how we move forward 28 00:01:21,131 --> 00:01:23,616 and manage the environmental impact 29 00:01:23,616 --> 00:01:25,868 of those decisions. 30 00:01:25,868 --> 00:01:28,292 We've been working on this problem for 25 years, since Rio, 31 00:01:28,292 --> 00:01:31,223 the Kyoto Protocols. 32 00:01:31,223 --> 00:01:33,047 Our most recent move 33 00:01:33,047 --> 00:01:34,737 is the Paris treaty, 34 00:01:34,737 --> 00:01:37,112 and the resulting climate agreements 35 00:01:37,112 --> 00:01:40,233 that are being ratified by nations around the world. 36 00:01:40,233 --> 00:01:42,272 I think we can be very hopeful 37 00:01:42,272 --> 00:01:45,629 that those agreements, which are bottom-up agreements, 38 00:01:45,629 --> 00:01:48,390 where nations have said what they think they can do, 39 00:01:48,390 --> 00:01:52,977 are genuine and forthcoming for the vast majority of the parties. 40 00:01:52,977 --> 00:01:55,229 The unfortunate thing 41 00:01:55,229 --> 00:01:59,735 is that now, as we look at the independent analyses 42 00:01:59,735 --> 00:02:02,958 of what those climate treaties are liable to yield, 43 00:02:02,958 --> 00:02:07,037 the magnitude of the problem before us becomes clear. 44 00:02:07,037 --> 00:02:11,524 This is the United States Energy Information Agency's assessment 45 00:02:11,524 --> 00:02:13,186 of what will happen 46 00:02:13,186 --> 00:02:16,440 if the countries implement the climate commitments 47 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:18,495 that they've made in Paris 48 00:02:18,495 --> 00:02:21,158 between now and 2040. 49 00:02:21,158 --> 00:02:25,562 It shows basically CO2 emissions around the world 50 00:02:25,562 --> 00:02:28,443 over the next 30 years. 51 00:02:28,443 --> 00:02:30,630 There are three things that you need to look at 52 00:02:30,630 --> 00:02:32,241 and appreciate. 53 00:02:32,241 --> 00:02:36,531 One, CO2 emissions are expected to continue to grow 54 00:02:36,531 --> 00:02:39,456 for the next 30 years. 55 00:02:39,456 --> 00:02:42,205 In order to control climate, 56 00:02:42,205 --> 00:02:46,121 CO2 emissions have to literally go to zero 57 00:02:46,121 --> 00:02:50,445 because it's the cumulative emissions that drive heating on the planet. 58 00:02:50,445 --> 00:02:54,982 This should tell you that we are losing the race to fossil fuels. 59 00:02:55,726 --> 00:02:57,612 The second thing you should notice 60 00:02:57,612 --> 00:02:59,750 is that the bulk of the growth 61 00:02:59,750 --> 00:03:01,853 comes from the developing countries, 62 00:03:01,853 --> 00:03:04,025 from China, from India, 63 00:03:04,025 --> 00:03:05,440 from the rest of the world, 64 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:09,024 which includes South Africa and Indonesia and Brazil, 65 00:03:09,024 --> 00:03:12,196 as most of these countries move their people 66 00:03:12,196 --> 00:03:15,288 into the lower range of lifestyles 67 00:03:15,288 --> 00:03:17,842 that we literally take for granted 68 00:03:17,842 --> 00:03:20,495 in the developed world. 69 00:03:20,495 --> 00:03:22,902 The final thing that you should notice 70 00:03:22,902 --> 00:03:25,138 is that each year, 71 00:03:25,138 --> 00:03:29,911 about 10 gigatons of carbon are getting added 72 00:03:29,911 --> 00:03:33,176 to the planet's atmosphere, 73 00:03:33,176 --> 00:03:36,075 and then diffusing into the ocean and into the land. 74 00:03:36,075 --> 00:03:42,189 That's on top of the 550 gigatons that are in place today. 75 00:03:42,189 --> 00:03:43,976 At the end of 30 years, 76 00:03:43,976 --> 00:03:46,496 we will have put 850 gigatons 77 00:03:46,496 --> 00:03:49,091 of carbon into the air, 78 00:03:49,091 --> 00:03:51,511 and that probably goes a long way 79 00:03:51,511 --> 00:03:55,606 towards locking in a 2-4 degree C increase 80 00:03:55,606 --> 00:03:58,252 in global mean surface temperatures, 81 00:03:58,252 --> 00:04:01,299 locking in ocean acidification, 82 00:04:01,299 --> 00:04:04,303 and locking in sea level rise. 83 00:04:04,303 --> 00:04:06,063 Now, this is a projection 84 00:04:06,063 --> 00:04:07,769 made by men 85 00:04:07,769 --> 00:04:10,649 by the actions of society, 86 00:04:10,649 --> 00:04:14,055 and it's ours to change, not to accept. 87 00:04:14,055 --> 00:04:18,823 But the magnitude of the problem is something we need to appreciate. 88 00:04:18,823 --> 00:04:21,388 Different nations make different energy choices. 89 00:04:21,388 --> 00:04:23,657 It's a function of their natural resources. 90 00:04:23,657 --> 00:04:25,499 It's a function of their climate. 91 00:04:25,499 --> 00:04:30,863 It's a function of the development path that they've followed as a society. 92 00:04:30,863 --> 00:04:34,279 It's a function of where on the surface of the planet they are. 93 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:36,802 Are they where it's dark a lot of the time, 94 00:04:36,802 --> 00:04:39,180 or are they at the mid-latitudes? 95 00:04:39,180 --> 00:04:41,086 Many, many, many things 96 00:04:41,086 --> 00:04:43,273 go into the choices of countries, 97 00:04:43,273 --> 00:04:46,359 and they each make a different choice. 98 00:04:46,359 --> 00:04:50,064 The overwhelming thing that we need to appreciate 99 00:04:50,064 --> 00:04:52,695 is the choice that China has made. 100 00:04:52,695 --> 00:04:54,779 China has made the choice, 101 00:04:54,779 --> 00:04:58,284 and will make the choice, to run on coal. 102 00:04:58,284 --> 00:05:00,521 The United States has an alternative. 103 00:05:00,521 --> 00:05:02,182 It can run on natural gas 104 00:05:02,182 --> 00:05:06,031 as a result of the inventions of fracking and shale gas 105 00:05:06,031 --> 00:05:07,526 which we have here. 106 00:05:07,526 --> 00:05:09,482 They provide an alternative. 107 00:05:09,482 --> 00:05:14,088 The OECD Europe has a choice. 108 00:05:14,088 --> 00:05:17,180 It has renewables that it can afford to deploy in Germany, 109 00:05:17,180 --> 00:05:19,615 because it's rich enough to afford to do it. 110 00:05:19,615 --> 00:05:25,901 The French and the British show interest in nuclear power. 111 00:05:25,901 --> 00:05:30,514 Eastern Europe, still very heavily committed to natural gas and to coal, 112 00:05:30,514 --> 00:05:35,558 and with natural gas that comes from Russia, with all of its entanglements. 113 00:05:35,558 --> 00:05:38,176 China has many fewer choices 114 00:05:38,176 --> 00:05:42,962 and a much harder row to hoe. 115 00:05:42,962 --> 00:05:44,869 If you look at China, and you ask yourself, 116 00:05:44,869 --> 00:05:47,088 why has coal been important to it, 117 00:05:47,088 --> 00:05:49,324 you have to remember what China's done. 118 00:05:49,324 --> 00:05:53,484 China brought people to power, not power to people. 119 00:05:53,484 --> 00:05:56,427 It didn't do rural electrification. 120 00:05:56,427 --> 00:05:58,153 It urbanized. 121 00:05:58,153 --> 00:06:00,757 It urbanized by taking low-cost labor 122 00:06:00,757 --> 00:06:02,182 and low-cost energy, 123 00:06:02,182 --> 00:06:04,123 creating export industries 124 00:06:04,123 --> 00:06:07,427 that could fund a tremendous amount of growth. 125 00:06:07,427 --> 00:06:09,763 If we look at China's path, 126 00:06:09,763 --> 00:06:14,645 all of us know that prosperity in China has dramatically increased. 127 00:06:14,645 --> 00:06:19,283 In 1980, 80 percent of China's population 128 00:06:19,283 --> 00:06:22,700 lived below the extreme poverty level, 129 00:06:22,700 --> 00:06:26,864 below the level of having a $1.90 per person per day. 130 00:06:26,864 --> 00:06:31,927 By the year 2000, only 20 percent of China's population 131 00:06:31,927 --> 00:06:35,462 lived below the extreme poverty level, 132 00:06:35,462 --> 00:06:37,900 a remarkable feat, 133 00:06:37,900 --> 00:06:41,104 admittedly with some costs in civil liberties that would be tough 134 00:06:41,104 --> 00:06:44,636 to accept in the Western world. 135 00:06:44,636 --> 00:06:47,566 But the impact of all that wealth 136 00:06:47,566 --> 00:06:51,382 allowed people to get massively better nutrition. 137 00:06:51,382 --> 00:06:54,223 It allowed water pipes to be placed. 138 00:06:54,223 --> 00:06:56,706 It allowed sewage pipes to be placed, 139 00:06:56,706 --> 00:07:00,102 dramatic decrease in diarrheal diseases, 140 00:07:00,102 --> 00:07:04,207 at the cost of some outdoor air pollution. 141 00:07:04,207 --> 00:07:06,374 But in 1980, and even today, 142 00:07:06,374 --> 00:07:10,833 the number one killer in China is indoor air pollution, 143 00:07:10,833 --> 00:07:15,602 because people do not have access to clean cooking and heating fuels. 144 00:07:16,091 --> 00:07:18,756 In fact, in 2040, 145 00:07:18,756 --> 00:07:21,518 it's still estimated 146 00:07:21,518 --> 00:07:24,593 that 200 million people in China 147 00:07:24,593 --> 00:07:26,664 will not have access 148 00:07:26,664 --> 00:07:29,228 to clean cooking fuels. 149 00:07:29,228 --> 00:07:32,370 They have a remarkable path to follow. 150 00:07:32,370 --> 00:07:37,911 India also needs to meet the needs of its own people, 151 00:07:37,911 --> 00:07:40,475 and it's going to do that by burning coal. 152 00:07:40,475 --> 00:07:43,353 When we look at the EIA's projections 153 00:07:43,353 --> 00:07:46,807 of coal burning in India, 154 00:07:46,807 --> 00:07:50,374 India will supply nearly four times as much of its energy 155 00:07:50,374 --> 00:07:54,815 from coal as it will from renewables. 156 00:07:54,815 --> 00:07:58,072 It's not because they don't know the alternatives. 157 00:07:58,072 --> 00:08:02,242 It's because rich countries can do what they choose, 158 00:08:02,242 --> 00:08:05,929 poor countries do what they must. 159 00:08:05,929 --> 00:08:10,866 So what can we do to stop coal's emissions in time? 160 00:08:10,866 --> 00:08:15,763 What can we do that changes this forecast that's in front of us? 161 00:08:15,763 --> 00:08:17,999 Because it's a forecast that we can change 162 00:08:17,999 --> 00:08:20,956 if we have the will to do it. 163 00:08:20,956 --> 00:08:24,711 First of all, we have to think about the magnitude of the problem. 164 00:08:24,711 --> 00:08:26,965 Between now and 2040, 165 00:08:26,965 --> 00:08:30,347 800 to 1,600 new coal plants 166 00:08:30,347 --> 00:08:33,618 are going to be built around the world. 167 00:08:33,618 --> 00:08:38,718 This week, between one and three one gigawatt coal plants 168 00:08:38,718 --> 00:08:41,748 are being turned on around the world. 169 00:08:41,748 --> 00:08:45,955 That's happening regardless of what we want, 170 00:08:45,955 --> 00:08:48,423 because the people that rule their countries, 171 00:08:48,423 --> 00:08:50,712 assessing the interests of their citizens, 172 00:08:50,712 --> 00:08:54,887 have decided it's in the interest of their citizens to do that. 173 00:08:54,887 --> 00:08:57,153 And that's going to happen 174 00:08:57,153 --> 00:08:59,726 unless they have a better alternative, 175 00:08:59,726 --> 00:09:02,366 and every 100 of those plants 176 00:09:02,366 --> 00:09:05,343 will use up between one percent 177 00:09:05,343 --> 00:09:06,807 and three percent 178 00:09:06,807 --> 00:09:09,009 of the Earth's climate budget. 179 00:09:09,009 --> 00:09:12,791 So every day that you go home thinking that you should do something 180 00:09:12,791 --> 00:09:14,320 about global warming, 181 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:16,630 at the end of that week, remember 182 00:09:16,630 --> 00:09:18,644 somebody fired up a coal plant 183 00:09:18,644 --> 00:09:20,967 that's going to run for 50 years 184 00:09:20,967 --> 00:09:25,550 and take away your ability to change it. 185 00:09:25,550 --> 00:09:27,639 What we've forgotten is something 186 00:09:27,639 --> 00:09:30,696 that Vinod Khosla used to talk about, a man of Indian ethnicity 187 00:09:30,696 --> 00:09:32,227 but an American venture capitalist. 188 00:09:32,227 --> 00:09:36,304 And he said, back in the early 2000s 189 00:09:36,304 --> 00:09:40,481 that if you needed to get China and India off of fossil fuels, 190 00:09:40,481 --> 00:09:44,509 you had to create a technology that passed the Chindia test, 191 00:09:44,509 --> 00:09:48,061 Chindia being the appending of the two words. 192 00:09:48,061 --> 00:09:50,363 It had to be first of all viable, 193 00:09:50,363 --> 00:09:53,980 meaning that technically, they could implement it in their country, 194 00:09:53,980 --> 00:09:58,025 and that it would be accepted by the people in the country. 195 00:09:58,025 --> 00:10:01,954 Two, it had to be a technology 196 00:10:01,954 --> 00:10:05,030 that was scalable, 197 00:10:05,030 --> 00:10:08,005 that it could deliver the same benefits 198 00:10:08,005 --> 00:10:10,837 on the same timetable as fossil fuels, 199 00:10:10,837 --> 00:10:15,654 so that they can enjoy the kind of life, again, that we take for granted. 200 00:10:15,654 --> 00:10:18,298 And third, it had to be cost-effective 201 00:10:18,298 --> 00:10:21,488 without subsidy or without mandate. 202 00:10:21,488 --> 00:10:24,170 It had to stand on its own two feet. 203 00:10:24,170 --> 00:10:26,718 It could not be maintained for that many people 204 00:10:26,718 --> 00:10:31,009 if in fact those countries had to go begging 205 00:10:31,009 --> 00:10:35,073 or had some foreign countries say, I won't trade with you, 206 00:10:35,073 --> 00:10:40,367 in order to get the technology shift to occur. 207 00:10:40,367 --> 00:10:43,670 If you look at the Chindia test, we simply have not come up 208 00:10:43,670 --> 00:10:46,984 with alternatives that meet that test. 209 00:10:46,984 --> 00:10:50,861 That's what the EIA forecast tells us. 210 00:10:50,861 --> 00:10:54,866 China's building 800 gigawatts of coal, 211 00:10:54,866 --> 00:10:57,695 400 gigawatts of hydro, 212 00:10:57,695 --> 00:11:00,393 about 200 gigawatts of nuclear, 213 00:11:00,393 --> 00:11:02,578 and on an energy equivalent basis, 214 00:11:02,578 --> 00:11:04,654 adjusting for intermittency, 215 00:11:04,654 --> 00:11:07,745 about 100 gigawatts of renewables. 216 00:11:07,745 --> 00:11:10,027 800 gigawatts of coal. 217 00:11:10,027 --> 00:11:13,381 They're doing that knowing the costs better than any other country, 218 00:11:13,381 --> 00:11:16,637 knowing the need better than any other country, 219 00:11:16,637 --> 00:11:19,209 but that's what they're aiming for in 2040 220 00:11:19,209 --> 00:11:22,199 unless we give them a better choice. 221 00:11:22,199 --> 00:11:26,322 To give them a better choice, it's going to have to meet the Chindia test. 222 00:11:26,322 --> 00:11:29,462 If you look at all the alternatives that are out there, 223 00:11:29,462 --> 00:11:31,865 there are really two that come near to meeting it. 224 00:11:31,865 --> 00:11:36,107 First is this area of new nuclear that I'll talk about in just a second. 225 00:11:36,107 --> 00:11:39,431 It's a new generation of nuclear plants that are on the drawing boards 226 00:11:39,431 --> 00:11:40,601 around the world, 227 00:11:40,601 --> 00:11:43,093 and the people who are developing these say, 228 00:11:43,093 --> 00:11:47,491 we can get them in position to demo by 2025 229 00:11:47,491 --> 00:11:51,176 and to scale by 2030 if you will just let us. 230 00:11:51,176 --> 00:11:54,429 The second alternative that could be there in time 231 00:11:54,429 --> 00:11:56,870 is utility-scale solar 232 00:11:56,870 --> 00:11:58,837 backed up with natural gas 233 00:11:58,837 --> 00:12:00,399 which we can use today 234 00:12:00,399 --> 00:12:04,740 versus the batteries which are still under development. 235 00:12:04,740 --> 00:12:07,782 So what's holding new nuclear back? 236 00:12:07,782 --> 00:12:11,827 Outdated regulations and yesterday's mindsets. 237 00:12:11,827 --> 00:12:14,573 We have not used our latest scientific thinking 238 00:12:14,573 --> 00:12:16,283 on radiological health 239 00:12:16,283 --> 00:12:18,848 to think how we communicate with the public 240 00:12:18,848 --> 00:12:21,857 and govern the testing of new nuclear reactors. 241 00:12:21,857 --> 00:12:23,846 We have new scientific knowledge 242 00:12:23,846 --> 00:12:25,950 that we need to use 243 00:12:25,950 --> 00:12:28,269 in order to improve the way 244 00:12:28,269 --> 00:12:30,983 we regulate nuclear industry. 245 00:12:30,983 --> 00:12:33,464 The second thing is we've got a mindset 246 00:12:33,464 --> 00:12:36,178 that it takes 25 years and 2 to 5 billion dollars 247 00:12:36,178 --> 00:12:37,937 to develop a nuclear power plant. 248 00:12:37,937 --> 00:12:42,443 That comes from the historical, military mindset 249 00:12:42,443 --> 00:12:45,403 of the places that nuclear power came from. 250 00:12:45,403 --> 00:12:47,638 These new nuclear ventures are saying 251 00:12:47,638 --> 00:12:51,864 that they can deliver power for 5 cents per kilowatt/hour, 252 00:12:51,864 --> 00:12:54,339 they can deliver it for 100 gigawatts a year, 253 00:12:54,339 --> 00:12:56,929 they can demo it by 2025, 254 00:12:56,929 --> 00:13:00,825 and they can deliver it in scale by 2030, 255 00:13:00,825 --> 00:13:03,884 if only we give them a chance. 256 00:13:03,884 --> 00:13:07,862 Right now, we're basically waiting for a miracle. 257 00:13:07,862 --> 00:13:09,952 What we need is a choice. 258 00:13:09,952 --> 00:13:12,780 If they can't make it safe, if they can't make it cheap, 259 00:13:12,780 --> 00:13:14,621 it should not be deployed. 260 00:13:14,621 --> 00:13:18,699 But what I want you to do is not carry an idea forward, 261 00:13:18,699 --> 00:13:20,540 but write your leaders, 262 00:13:20,540 --> 00:13:22,808 write the head of the NGOs you support, 263 00:13:22,808 --> 00:13:25,983 and tell them to give you the choice, 264 00:13:25,983 --> 00:13:27,446 not the past. 265 00:13:27,446 --> 00:13:29,171 Thank you very much. 266 00:13:29,171 --> 00:13:33,462 (Applause)