1 00:00:15,584 --> 00:00:17,293 OK. stand there, there, there. 2 00:00:17,314 --> 00:00:18,650 You've got a circle for me? 3 00:00:18,667 --> 00:00:22,418 Hi everybody, my name is Ben Mezrich, and I'm an author. 4 00:00:22,419 --> 00:00:25,281 I'm here to talk about UFOs. 5 00:00:25,282 --> 00:00:27,803 But I'll talk about how I got to UFOs 6 00:00:27,804 --> 00:00:31,356 because my parents get very upset when I just talk about UFOs. 7 00:00:31,357 --> 00:00:33,549 I'm a non-fiction writer. 8 00:00:33,550 --> 00:00:35,891 I never really wanted to be a non-fiction writer. 9 00:00:35,892 --> 00:00:37,448 I hated non-fiction growing up. 10 00:00:37,451 --> 00:00:40,161 I loved TV, really bad TV, 11 00:00:40,162 --> 00:00:42,592 like "Saved by the Bell" and "Three's Company." 12 00:00:42,593 --> 00:00:45,790 My parents, fearing the worst, made a rule when we were little 13 00:00:45,791 --> 00:00:50,135 that we had to read two books a week before we were allowed to watch TV 14 00:00:50,136 --> 00:00:53,744 so I became a speed reader so that I could watch "Three's Company." 15 00:00:53,745 --> 00:00:57,273 When I graduated from college, I realized I wanted to be a writer. 16 00:00:57,274 --> 00:01:00,249 I locked myself in an apartment in Boston nearby here, 17 00:01:00,250 --> 00:01:02,200 and I wrote nine novels in a year; 18 00:01:02,201 --> 00:01:04,513 not something I recommend to any of you. 19 00:01:04,515 --> 00:01:06,489 I was rejected by everyone in publishing. 20 00:01:06,490 --> 00:01:09,880 I got 190 rejection slips - had them taped to the walls -; 21 00:01:09,888 --> 00:01:12,052 I look like a serial killer in my apartment. 22 00:01:12,053 --> 00:01:14,900 I was even rejected by a janitor at a publishing house 23 00:01:14,901 --> 00:01:16,210 because I wrote manuscript 24 00:01:16,211 --> 00:01:18,950 and sent it to an editor who was no longer working there. 25 00:01:18,951 --> 00:01:20,342 They got thrown in the trash. 26 00:01:20,343 --> 00:01:22,933 An editor took it out the trash and then rejected me. 27 00:01:22,934 --> 00:01:25,550 So it seemed unnecessary, but that's what happened. 28 00:01:25,551 --> 00:01:28,718 I went on and on and on, and eventually, I found my way, 29 00:01:28,719 --> 00:01:31,802 because I was hanging out in a bar in Boston called "Crossroads" 30 00:01:31,803 --> 00:01:33,610 - Some of you may know "Crossroads" - 31 00:01:33,619 --> 00:01:37,100 and there was a group of MIT kids there, and they had tons of money. 32 00:01:37,101 --> 00:01:39,528 And it was all in 100 dollar bills. 33 00:01:39,529 --> 00:01:41,969 I didn't know why they had all this money in 100s. 34 00:01:41,970 --> 00:01:45,549 So I met the main guy; he invited me to his apartment in the South End, 35 00:01:45,550 --> 00:01:48,194 and in his laundry was 250,000 dollars. 36 00:01:48,195 --> 00:01:50,949 I said, "Are you a drug dealer?" And he said, "No." 37 00:01:50,950 --> 00:01:52,646 He said, "Come to Vegas with me." 38 00:01:52,647 --> 00:01:58,168 I went to Vegas, and that turned out to be the lead of the MIT blackjack team. 39 00:01:58,171 --> 00:02:01,421 I joined the team, and I wrote a book, and it became the movie "21." 40 00:02:01,422 --> 00:02:04,017 "21" was about to come out, I was sitting at home, 41 00:02:04,018 --> 00:02:07,250 and I got a weird little email from a Harvard senior, and it said, 42 00:02:07,251 --> 00:02:11,160 "My best friend founded Facebook, and no one's ever heard of him." 43 00:02:11,161 --> 00:02:13,046 Another weird little moment in my life: 44 00:02:13,047 --> 00:02:15,825 I go out for a drink and in walks Eduardo Saverin; 45 00:02:15,825 --> 00:02:17,036 - you've seen the movie - 46 00:02:17,037 --> 00:02:19,813 kinda looks like the guy in the movie, not as good-looking. 47 00:02:19,814 --> 00:02:23,511 if you watched 21, it was the best looking group of MIT kids you've ever seen. 48 00:02:23,512 --> 00:02:27,092 "Social Network" was the best looking Harvard kid you've ever seen. 49 00:02:27,093 --> 00:02:31,794 Anyways, Eduardo walks in, sits down, and says, "Mark Zuckerberg fucked me." 50 00:02:31,795 --> 00:02:35,527 As a journalist, I had to say, "Tell me more!" 51 00:02:35,528 --> 00:02:38,966 And that became the movie "The Social Network." 52 00:02:38,967 --> 00:02:41,346 So that's the kind of things I normally write. 53 00:02:41,347 --> 00:02:45,318 About a year and half ago, I heard about another story. 54 00:02:45,334 --> 00:02:47,320 It was about a guy named Chuck Zukowski. 55 00:02:47,321 --> 00:02:50,601 Chuck was a reserve sheriff's deputy in Colorado. 56 00:02:50,602 --> 00:02:53,711 Chuck was investigating a cattle mutilation. 57 00:02:53,712 --> 00:02:57,514 Out here in Massachusetts, we don't know a lot about cattle mutilations, 58 00:02:57,515 --> 00:02:59,964 but in the West, they are an enormous problem: 59 00:02:59,965 --> 00:03:05,056 over 10,000 cows and horses have been found lying on their left side, 60 00:03:05,057 --> 00:03:09,495 missing organs, all of of the cuts are surgical and circular, 61 00:03:09,496 --> 00:03:12,665 and bodies are completely drained of blood. 62 00:03:12,666 --> 00:03:15,049 This has been going on since the 60s. 63 00:03:15,050 --> 00:03:17,719 It's such a huge phenomenon, that in the 70s, 64 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:19,783 three state governors got together, 65 00:03:19,784 --> 00:03:22,379 petitioned the Attorney General of the United States 66 00:03:22,380 --> 00:03:24,528 and demanded an investigation. 67 00:03:24,529 --> 00:03:29,064 The FBI investigated, involving 100 agents over 10 years, 68 00:03:29,065 --> 00:03:30,525 and found nothing. 69 00:03:30,526 --> 00:03:31,996 No one's ever been arrested, 70 00:03:31,996 --> 00:03:35,113 there's not a single fingerprint, not a single footprint, 71 00:03:35,114 --> 00:03:38,568 these cows are just found lying there, missing all their organs. 72 00:03:38,569 --> 00:03:39,918 It's really weird. 73 00:03:39,919 --> 00:03:42,369 Our sheriff's deputy, Chuck, was investigating this, 74 00:03:42,370 --> 00:03:44,651 and he starts to think, "UFOs." 75 00:03:44,652 --> 00:03:47,461 He was immediately fired from the Sheriff's Department. 76 00:03:47,745 --> 00:03:50,703 This is what normally happens when you say UFOs. 77 00:03:50,704 --> 00:03:53,723 Anyways, he decided to become a UFO hunter. 78 00:03:53,724 --> 00:03:56,235 He got an RV, filled it with his family, 79 00:03:56,236 --> 00:03:59,954 and started going up and down the Midwest looking for UFOs. 80 00:03:59,955 --> 00:04:03,059 His family didn't believe, his wife is a total skeptic. 81 00:04:03,060 --> 00:04:06,095 I interviewed her, and I said, "How did you put up with this?" 82 00:04:06,096 --> 00:04:09,529 And she said, "Well, it could be worse! He could be off having affairs. 83 00:04:09,530 --> 00:04:12,577 He's just in the mountains looking for aliens!" 84 00:04:12,578 --> 00:04:15,982 So anyways, he starts to make a weird discovery. 85 00:04:15,983 --> 00:04:19,156 Turns out that the majority of UFO sightings 86 00:04:19,158 --> 00:04:23,287 occur along the 37th parallel of the United States. 87 00:04:23,288 --> 00:04:27,737 It also turns out most cattle mutilation are along the 37th parallel. 88 00:04:27,738 --> 00:04:31,871 It also turns out that almost all of America's underground military bases 89 00:04:31,872 --> 00:04:34,552 are along the 37th parallel of the United States: 90 00:04:34,553 --> 00:04:39,522 The Pentagon, Cheyenne Mountain, Fort Knox, all the way over to Area 51. 91 00:04:39,523 --> 00:04:41,514 Chuck is investigating UFOs. 92 00:04:41,515 --> 00:04:43,864 He starts to have weird run-ins. 93 00:04:43,865 --> 00:04:46,582 You would think he's having run-ins with the government 94 00:04:46,583 --> 00:04:49,625 because the government used to investigate UFOs in this country. 95 00:04:49,626 --> 00:04:51,928 There was something called Project Blue Book. 96 00:04:51,929 --> 00:04:54,304 After that, there were two other secret projects, 97 00:04:54,305 --> 00:04:57,452 but the government no longer investigates UFOs. 98 00:04:57,453 --> 00:05:01,144 It turns out Chuck was having run-ins with a private corporation. 99 00:05:01,145 --> 00:05:04,904 This is true, and this is where we are going down the rabbit hole a little bit. 100 00:05:04,918 --> 00:05:08,038 There's a company run by a billionaire named Robert Bigelow. 101 00:05:08,039 --> 00:05:11,968 Robert Bigelow made his money from Budget Suites of America. 102 00:05:11,969 --> 00:05:16,174 He then put most of his fortune into something called Bigelow Aerospace. 103 00:05:16,175 --> 00:05:17,394 - You might heard of it - 104 00:05:17,395 --> 00:05:19,927 They have pieces on the International Space Station. 105 00:05:19,928 --> 00:05:22,460 They make something called the TransHab with NASA 106 00:05:22,462 --> 00:05:26,361 which is an inflatable gasket that astronauts can live in. 107 00:05:26,362 --> 00:05:30,205 They are intending one day to build hotels on the Moon. 108 00:05:30,206 --> 00:05:31,766 - It was their original project. 109 00:05:31,767 --> 00:05:33,320 Anyway, this is a real company. 110 00:05:33,321 --> 00:05:37,778 It turns out for the past 20 years, they have been investigating UFOs. 111 00:05:37,779 --> 00:05:41,867 They're doing this in conjunction with certain government organizations. 112 00:05:41,868 --> 00:05:46,738 If you get a copy of an FAA manual that all of our civilian pilots use, 113 00:05:46,739 --> 00:05:49,116 and you look through it, deep into the writing, 114 00:05:49,117 --> 00:05:53,153 what a pilot's supposed to do if they see something in the air, 115 00:05:53,154 --> 00:05:55,177 they don't report it to the FAA; 116 00:05:55,178 --> 00:05:58,344 they don't report to their airline because then they will be fired; 117 00:05:58,345 --> 00:06:00,615 they report it to Bigelow. 118 00:06:00,616 --> 00:06:02,416 Bigelow gets all this information. 119 00:06:02,417 --> 00:06:08,540 He sends out a well-paid for teams of investigators who investigate UFOs. 120 00:06:08,541 --> 00:06:11,358 Chuck started having run-ins with them. 121 00:06:11,359 --> 00:06:13,378 He didn't really know what was going on. 122 00:06:13,379 --> 00:06:17,260 The story comes to a head at Roswell, as all UFO stories do. 123 00:06:17,261 --> 00:06:19,884 If you know anything about Roswell, it's very kitschy, 124 00:06:19,885 --> 00:06:24,050 you can go there now and eat a hamburger in an UFO-shaped restaurant 125 00:06:24,051 --> 00:06:27,292 or go to the alien ball, dressed as your favorite Wookie. 126 00:06:27,312 --> 00:06:31,633 But the reality is the story behind Roswell is fascinating. 127 00:06:31,634 --> 00:06:37,061 In 1947, America's first nuclear base was there: it's called Walker Air Force Base. 128 00:06:37,062 --> 00:06:39,736 They started to track something coming through a storm 129 00:06:39,737 --> 00:06:41,819 in the middle of the night in July. 130 00:06:41,820 --> 00:06:43,372 Whatever that thing was, 131 00:06:43,373 --> 00:06:47,372 it was hit by lighting and crashed on a ranch in Roswell. 132 00:06:47,373 --> 00:06:51,731 It's spread metallic debris over 300 yards of this ranch. 133 00:06:51,732 --> 00:06:55,230 The metallic debris was covered in weird hieroglyphics, 134 00:06:55,231 --> 00:06:58,187 it was made of the material that people couldn't identify. 135 00:06:58,188 --> 00:07:02,200 The rancher sees all this crap on his lawn, he calls up the sheriff, 136 00:07:02,201 --> 00:07:04,082 the sheriff calls the Air Force Space. 137 00:07:04,083 --> 00:07:05,718 They send out a team. 138 00:07:05,719 --> 00:07:10,058 The team gathers up the debris and then puts out a press release. 139 00:07:10,059 --> 00:07:12,934 The press release from the US Air Force says, 140 00:07:12,935 --> 00:07:15,927 "We now have in our possession a flying saucer." 141 00:07:15,928 --> 00:07:17,046 This is true. 142 00:07:17,047 --> 00:07:20,253 Two hours later, they rescind their press release. 143 00:07:20,254 --> 00:07:22,967 They gather up all the material, 144 00:07:22,968 --> 00:07:25,244 they go for inch by inch and gather it all up, 145 00:07:25,245 --> 00:07:28,310 they put it on a plane, first they land in Dallas, 146 00:07:28,311 --> 00:07:30,216 where they stage a photograph 147 00:07:30,217 --> 00:07:34,115 with a radar operator sitting amongst the debris of a broken weather balloon. 148 00:07:34,116 --> 00:07:36,305 Everyone who was involved in that photograph 149 00:07:36,306 --> 00:07:38,580 has since come forward and said it was fake. 150 00:07:38,581 --> 00:07:41,698 The person who took the photograph, the person in the photograph, 151 00:07:41,699 --> 00:07:43,224 and the person who ordered it. 152 00:07:43,225 --> 00:07:47,835 Anyways, the debris was then carted to Area 51 where it is to this day. 153 00:07:47,836 --> 00:07:52,999 For whatever reason, the Air Force will not release the files on this crash. 154 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:56,626 Hillary Clinton, a few month ago, was on Jimmy Kimmel, 155 00:07:56,641 --> 00:07:58,714 and she said if she were elected president, 156 00:07:58,715 --> 00:08:00,512 one of the first things she would do 157 00:08:00,513 --> 00:08:04,034 was get the Air Force to release the UFO files. 158 00:08:04,035 --> 00:08:06,767 Sadly, that is not to be. 159 00:08:06,768 --> 00:08:08,657 (Laughter) 160 00:08:08,658 --> 00:08:11,673 I don't know if she was trying to go for the UFO vote with that. 161 00:08:11,793 --> 00:08:15,202 I don't think there was enough UFO people to get over her over the edge. 162 00:08:15,203 --> 00:08:20,816 Every president we've had, with the possible exception of Obama, 163 00:08:20,817 --> 00:08:24,789 has believed in UFOs and has tried to get these files released. 164 00:08:24,790 --> 00:08:27,747 Jimmy Carter believed, Ronald Reagan believed, 165 00:08:27,748 --> 00:08:30,944 Bill Clinton tried twice to get these files released and couldn't. 166 00:08:30,945 --> 00:08:34,470 Hillary wanted to do it, we don't know whether Trump will or not. 167 00:08:34,471 --> 00:08:36,220 These files do exist. 168 00:08:36,221 --> 00:08:40,774 For whatever reason, the government will not show us what was at Roswell. 169 00:08:40,775 --> 00:08:46,247 I've seen documents which say it's still, to this day, an unidentified debris. 170 00:08:46,248 --> 00:08:49,272 That's very strange. This was a long, long time ago. 171 00:08:49,273 --> 00:08:53,124 So anyways, I dove into this story about the 37th parallel, 172 00:08:53,125 --> 00:08:56,574 and I have come to believe that there is a very good chance 173 00:08:56,575 --> 00:09:00,450 that whatever crashed at Roswell was not from here. 174 00:09:00,451 --> 00:09:02,806 As I said, my parents hate me saying that, 175 00:09:02,807 --> 00:09:07,198 because the reality is when you talk about UFOs, there's a giggle factor. 176 00:09:07,199 --> 00:09:08,849 Everyone assumes you are nuts. 177 00:09:08,850 --> 00:09:13,347 A respected sheriff can't look at a crash site 178 00:09:13,348 --> 00:09:16,032 and say it's an UFO without getting fired. 179 00:09:16,033 --> 00:09:17,968 A journalist can't talk about UFOs 180 00:09:17,969 --> 00:09:20,713 without hearing X-Files music in the background. 181 00:09:20,714 --> 00:09:23,107 And no scientist can look into it 182 00:09:23,108 --> 00:09:26,506 with the possible exception of the people that Robert Bigelow has hired. 183 00:09:26,507 --> 00:09:29,687 But we don't know what they are doing with the materials they find. 184 00:09:29,688 --> 00:09:31,784 So I want to leave you with this: 185 00:09:31,785 --> 00:09:36,571 the impediments to believing someone has come here from another planet, 186 00:09:36,572 --> 00:09:38,234 have actually disappeared. 187 00:09:38,235 --> 00:09:41,315 We used to think there wasn't life out there, right? 188 00:09:41,316 --> 00:09:43,915 Now we are all pretty sure there probably is. 189 00:09:43,916 --> 00:09:46,510 We find an Earth-like planet almost every day. 190 00:09:46,511 --> 00:09:49,998 We used to think these planets are too far away, right? 191 00:09:49,999 --> 00:09:51,666 But we now know that's not true, 192 00:09:51,667 --> 00:09:53,917 Proxima Centauri, which is one of these planets 193 00:09:53,944 --> 00:09:57,794 is reachable by current technology in 40 years. 194 00:09:57,795 --> 00:09:59,591 That's not that long. 195 00:09:59,592 --> 00:10:03,005 So, those two reasons aren't around anymore. 196 00:10:03,006 --> 00:10:06,903 The Catholic Church recently put out a weird little edict 197 00:10:06,904 --> 00:10:10,754 where they said, "If we do discover life on other planets, 198 00:10:10,755 --> 00:10:13,154 it will not affect Catholic doctrine." 199 00:10:13,155 --> 00:10:14,998 (Laughter) 200 00:10:14,999 --> 00:10:17,772 I think they're covering their basis, right? 201 00:10:17,773 --> 00:10:22,310 But I think that there's a sea change going on in the opinions 202 00:10:22,311 --> 00:10:24,655 of whether or not there's life on other planets 203 00:10:24,656 --> 00:10:26,573 and whether or not they could come here. 204 00:10:26,574 --> 00:10:29,881 And to be honest, looking at the news that we are seeing every day, 205 00:10:29,882 --> 00:10:32,306 if a UFO landed on the White House lawn tomorrow, 206 00:10:32,307 --> 00:10:34,599 it wouldn't even be the top five strange things 207 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:36,063 in the newspaper today. 208 00:10:36,064 --> 00:10:38,888 Anyways, thank you very much. I appreciated it. Thank you. 209 00:10:38,889 --> 00:10:40,319 (Applause)