1 00:00:30,367 --> 00:00:31,785 [So I just pull it?] 2 00:00:39,550 --> 00:00:40,767 [A lot?] 3 00:00:41,084 --> 00:00:42,851 [Can I pull on it a lot?] 4 00:00:47,964 --> 00:00:49,747 Improvisation is crucial. 5 00:00:50,664 --> 00:00:55,580 I want the work to be sort of an experience of something live-- 6 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:58,231 To have this feeling that it was improvised, 7 00:00:58,231 --> 00:01:01,481 That you can see decisions happening on site, 8 00:01:01,481 --> 00:01:04,780 The way you see a live sports event, 9 00:01:04,780 --> 00:01:07,597 The way you hear jazz. 10 00:01:35,097 --> 00:01:37,864 The spontaneous is always where it's the most interesting, 11 00:01:37,864 --> 00:01:40,630 for the artist and for the viewer. 12 00:01:40,747 --> 00:01:43,881 The "Encyclopedia" piece, when it went to France, for example, 13 00:01:43,881 --> 00:01:46,314 We went to local stores, 14 00:01:46,314 --> 00:01:47,930 Actually, I didn't even need to go to local stores-- 15 00:01:47,930 --> 00:01:49,797 It was what we were eating, 16 00:01:49,797 --> 00:01:51,097 What was in the hotel, 17 00:01:51,097 --> 00:01:53,497 And I added it into the piece. 18 00:01:58,030 --> 00:02:01,880 You can spend a lot of time conceptualizing and thinking it over 19 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:04,914 and then it's usually in the actual making and the process 20 00:02:04,914 --> 00:02:07,880 where there is something spontaneous that, 21 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:09,315 After all that planning, 22 00:02:09,315 --> 00:02:11,564 You had no idea was going to happen, 23 00:02:11,564 --> 00:02:14,597 And when that happens is when it's interesting. 24 00:02:25,248 --> 00:02:27,080 When you experience the piece, 25 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:28,780 You think about its making, 26 00:02:28,780 --> 00:02:30,680 You think about its demise, 27 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:32,363 And you feel like when you come to it 28 00:02:32,363 --> 00:02:35,014 It's actually a moment in time. 29 00:02:42,830 --> 00:02:45,030 The work looks like a science experiment, 30 00:02:45,030 --> 00:02:48,280 It looks like you come into someone's studio, 31 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:49,498 Or someone's lab, 32 00:02:49,498 --> 00:02:52,114 And you're seeing the process as it happens, 33 00:02:52,114 --> 00:02:55,298 And that the outcome is not clear. 34 00:02:55,765 --> 00:02:58,219 So you'll be in a section where you find little things 35 00:02:58,219 --> 00:02:59,719 That almost look like jewelry. 36 00:02:59,719 --> 00:03:01,486 But then when it starts to look too much like jewelry 37 00:03:01,486 --> 00:03:03,586 I'll switch it over to looking like a shoe store. 38 00:03:03,586 --> 00:03:05,253 And if it looks too much like a shoe store 39 00:03:05,253 --> 00:03:08,037 I'll make it look like a morgue. 40 00:03:08,302 --> 00:03:11,370 At the very core of the work, I'm thinking about 41 00:03:11,453 --> 00:03:14,570 The edge between life and art, 42 00:03:14,570 --> 00:03:17,019 And trying to have the viewer 43 00:03:17,019 --> 00:03:19,436 Move in and out of that all the time. 44 00:03:19,436 --> 00:03:21,935 So something that's very familiar 45 00:03:21,935 --> 00:03:25,236 Juxtaposed with something that's very unfamiliar. 46 00:03:39,669 --> 00:03:41,285 When you see it, you know that 47 00:03:41,285 --> 00:03:44,019 There was a kind of tinkering that was discovered, 48 00:03:44,019 --> 00:03:46,369 That that's something we'd been fooling around with 49 00:03:46,369 --> 00:03:49,486 A lot of things to come to that. 50 00:03:49,869 --> 00:03:52,219 The viewer actually, I think, experiences 51 00:03:52,219 --> 00:03:55,986 That kind of discovery that I actually have.