1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Good morning. How are you? It's been great, hasn't it? 2 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:11,000 I've been blown away by the whole thing. 3 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:15,000 In fact, I'm leaving. (Laughter) 4 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:19,000 There have been three themes, haven't there, 5 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:23,000 running through the conference, which are relevant 6 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:25,000 to what I want to talk about. 7 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:29,000 One is the extraordinary evidence of human creativity 8 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:32,000 in all of the presentations that we've had 9 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:35,000 and in all of the people here. Just the variety of it 10 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:38,000 and the range of it. The second is that 11 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:41,000 it's put us in a place where we have no idea what's going to happen, 12 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:43,000 in terms of the future. No idea 13 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:45,000 how this may play out. 14 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:48,000 I have an interest in education -- 15 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:51,000 actually, what I find is everybody has an interest in education. 16 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:53,000 Don't you? I find this very interesting. 17 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:56,000 If you're at a dinner party, and you say 18 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:59,000 you work in education -- 19 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:06,000 actually, you're not often at dinner parties, frankly, if you work in education. 20 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:09,000 (Laughter) You're not asked. 21 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:14,000 And you're never asked back, curiously. That's strange to me. 22 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:16,000 But if you are, and you say to somebody, 23 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:18,000 you know, they say, "What do you do?" 24 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:20,000 and you say you work in education, 25 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:24,000 you can see the blood run from their face. They're like, 26 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:30,000 "Oh my God," you know, "Why me? My one night out all week." (Laughter) 27 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:32,000 But if you ask about their education, 28 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:34,000 they pin you to the wall. Because it's one of those things 29 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:37,000 that goes deep with people, am I right? 30 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:40,000 Like religion, and money and other things. 31 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:44,000 I have a big interest in education, and I think we all do. 32 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:46,000 We have a huge vested interest in it, 33 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:49,000 partly because it's education that's meant to 34 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:52,000 take us into this future that we can't grasp. 35 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:55,000 If you think of it, children starting school this year 36 00:01:55,000 --> 00:02:01,000 will be retiring in 2065. Nobody has a clue -- 37 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:04,000 despite all the expertise that's been on parade for the past four days -- 38 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:06,000 what the world will look like 39 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:08,000 in five years' time. And yet we're meant 40 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:11,000 to be educating them for it. So the unpredictability, I think, 41 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:13,000 is extraordinary. 42 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:15,000 And the third part of this is that 43 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:20,000 we've all agreed, nonetheless, on the 44 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:23,000 really extraordinary capacities that children have -- 45 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:25,000 their capacities for innovation. I mean, Sirena last night was a marvel, 46 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:28,000 wasn't she? Just seeing what she could do. 47 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:33,000 And she's exceptional, but I think she's not, so to speak, 48 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:36,000 exceptional in the whole of childhood. 49 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:39,000 What you have there is a person of extraordinary dedication 50 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:41,000 who found a talent. And my contention is, 51 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:43,000 all kids have tremendous talents. 52 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:45,000 And we squander them, pretty ruthlessly. 53 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:48,000 So I want to talk about education and 54 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:51,000 I want to talk about creativity. My contention is that 55 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:54,000 creativity now is as important in education as literacy, 56 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:58,000 and we should treat it with the same status. 57 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:06,000 (Applause) Thank you. That was it, by the way. 58 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:10,000 Thank you very much. (Laughter) So, 15 minutes left. 59 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:17,000 Well, I was born ... no. (Laughter) 60 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:21,000 I heard a great story recently -- I love telling it -- 61 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:25,000 of a little girl who was in a drawing lesson. She was six 62 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:27,000 and she was at the back, drawing, 63 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:29,000 and the teacher said this little girl hardly ever 64 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:33,000 paid attention, and in this drawing lesson she did. 65 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:35,000 The teacher was fascinated and she went over to her 66 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:38,000 and she said, "What are you drawing?" 67 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:41,000 And the girl said, "I'm drawing a picture of God." 68 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:44,000 And the teacher said, "But nobody knows what God looks like." 69 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:51,000 And the girl said, "They will in a minute." 70 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:52,000 (Laughter) 71 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:57,000 When my son was four in England -- 72 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:00,000 actually he was four everywhere, to be honest. (Laughter) 73 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:06,000 If we're being strict about it, wherever he went, he was four that year. 74 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:08,000 He was in the Nativity play. 75 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:11,000 Do you remember the story? No, it was big. 76 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:14,000 It was a big story. Mel Gibson did the sequel. 77 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:19,000 You may have seen it: "Nativity II." But James got the part of Joseph, 78 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:22,000 which we were thrilled about. 79 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:24,000 We considered this to be one of the lead parts. 80 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:26,000 We had the place crammed full of agents in T-shirts: 81 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:29,000 "James Robinson IS Joseph!" (Laughter) 82 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:31,000 He didn't have to speak, but you know the bit 83 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:34,000 where the three kings come in. They come in bearing gifts, 84 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:36,000 and they bring gold, frankincense and myrhh. 85 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:38,000 This really happened. We were sitting there 86 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:40,000 and I think they just went out of sequence, 87 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:42,000 because we talked to the little boy afterward and we said, 88 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:44,000 "You OK with that?" And he said, "Yeah, why? Was that wrong?" 89 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,000 They just switched, that was it. 90 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:47,000 Anyway, the three boys came in -- 91 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:49,000 four-year-olds with tea towels on their heads -- 92 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:52,000 and they put these boxes down, 93 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,000 and the first boy said, "I bring you gold." 94 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:57,000 And the second boy said, "I bring you myrhh." 95 00:04:57,000 --> 00:05:11,000 And the third boy said, "Frank sent this." (Laughter) 96 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:13,000 What these things have in common is that kids will take a chance. 97 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:16,000 If they don't know, they'll have a go. 98 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:19,000 Am I right? They're not frightened of being wrong. 99 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:24,000 Now, I don't mean to say that being wrong is the same thing as being creative. 100 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:25,000 What we do know is, 101 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:28,000 if you're not prepared to be wrong, 102 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:31,000 you'll never come up with anything original -- 103 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:34,000 if you're not prepared to be wrong. And by the time they get to be adults, 104 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:36,000 most kids have lost that capacity. 105 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:39,000 They have become frightened of being wrong. 106 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:41,000 And we run our companies like this, by the way. 107 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:44,000 We stigmatize mistakes. And we're now running 108 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:47,000 national education systems where 109 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:50,000 mistakes are the worst thing you can make. 110 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:53,000 And the result is that we are educating people out of 111 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:56,000 their creative capacities. Picasso once said this -- 112 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:59,000 he said that all children are born artists. 113 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:03,000 The problem is to remain an artist as we grow up. I believe this passionately, 114 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:05,000 that we don't grow into creativity, 115 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:08,000 we grow out of it. Or rather, we get educated out if it. 116 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:10,000 So why is this? 117 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:14,000 I lived in Stratford-on-Avon until about five years ago. 118 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:16,000 In fact, we moved from Stratford to Los Angeles. 119 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:20,000 So you can imagine what a seamless transition that was. 120 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:22,000 (Laughter) Actually, 121 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:24,000 we lived in a place called Snitterfield, 122 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:26,000 just outside Stratford, which is where 123 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:31,000 Shakespeare's father was born. Are you struck by a new thought? I was. 124 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:33,000 You don't think of Shakespeare having a father, do you? 125 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:35,000 Do you? Because you don't think of 126 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:37,000 Shakespeare being a child, do you? 127 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:40,000 Shakespeare being seven? I never thought of it. I mean, he was 128 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,000 seven at some point. He was in 129 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:51,000 somebody's English class, wasn't he? How annoying would that be? 130 00:06:51,000 --> 00:07:05,000 (Laughter) "Must try harder." Being sent to bed by his dad, you know, 131 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:08,000 to Shakespeare, "Go to bed, now," 132 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:10,000 to William Shakespeare, "and put the pencil down. 133 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:18,000 And stop speaking like that. It's confusing everybody." 134 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:23,000 (Laughter) 135 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:26,000 Anyway, we moved from Stratford to Los Angeles, 136 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:30,000 and I just want to say a word about the transition, actually. 137 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:33,000 My son didn't want to come. 138 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:36,000 I've got two kids. He's 21 now; my daughter's 16. 139 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:38,000 He didn't want to come to Los Angeles. He loved it, 140 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:43,000 but he had a girlfriend in England. This was the love of his life, Sarah. 141 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:45,000 He'd known her for a month. 142 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:48,000 Mind you, they'd had their fourth anniversary, 143 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:52,000 because it's a long time when you're 16. 144 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:54,000 Anyway, he was really upset on the plane, 145 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:56,000 and he said, "I'll never find another girl like Sarah." 146 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:58,000 And we were rather pleased about that, frankly, 147 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:10,000 because she was the main reason we were leaving the country. 148 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:13,000 (Laughter) 149 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:16,000 But something strikes you when you move to America 150 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:18,000 and when you travel around the world: 151 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:22,000 Every education system on earth has the same hierarchy of subjects. 152 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,000 Every one. Doesn't matter where you go. 153 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:26,000 You'd think it would be otherwise, but it isn't. 154 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:29,000 At the top are mathematics and languages, 155 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:31,000 then the humanities, and the bottom are the arts. 156 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:33,000 Everywhere on Earth. 157 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:36,000 And in pretty much every system too, 158 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,000 there's a hierarchy within the arts. 159 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:40,000 Art and music are normally given a higher status in schools 160 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:43,000 than drama and dance. There isn't an education system on the planet 161 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:45,000 that teaches dance everyday to children 162 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:48,000 the way we teach them mathematics. Why? 163 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:50,000 Why not? I think this is rather important. 164 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:53,000 I think math is very important, but so is dance. 165 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:56,000 Children dance all the time if they're allowed to, we all do. 166 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:59,000 We all have bodies, don't we? Did I miss a meeting? 167 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:03,000 (Laughter) Truthfully, what happens is, 168 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:05,000 as children grow up, we start to educate them 169 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:08,000 progressively from the waist up. And then we focus on their heads. 170 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:10,000 And slightly to one side. 171 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:14,000 If you were to visit education, as an alien, 172 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:17,000 and say "What's it for, public education?" 173 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:19,000 I think you'd have to conclude -- if you look at the output, 174 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:21,000 who really succeeds by this, 175 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:23,000 who does everything that they should, 176 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:26,000 who gets all the brownie points, who are the winners -- 177 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:29,000 I think you'd have to conclude the whole purpose of public education 178 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:30,000 throughout the world 179 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:34,000 is to produce university professors. Isn't it? 180 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:36,000 They're the people who come out the top. 181 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:40,000 And I used to be one, so there. (Laughter) 182 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:44,000 And I like university professors, but you know, 183 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:48,000 we shouldn't hold them up as the high-water mark of all human achievement. 184 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:50,000 They're just a form of life, 185 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:52,000 another form of life. But they're rather curious, 186 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:54,000 and I say this out of affection for them. 187 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:57,000 There's something curious about professors in my experience -- 188 00:09:57,000 --> 00:10:00,000 not all of them, but typically -- they live in their heads. 189 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,000 They live up there, and slightly to one side. 190 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:06,000 They're disembodied, you know, in a kind of literal way. 191 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:08,000 They look upon their body 192 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:17,000 as a form of transport for their heads, don't they? 193 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:24,000 (Laughter) It's a way of getting their head to meetings. 194 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:27,000 If you want real evidence of out-of-body experiences, 195 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:30,000 by the way, get yourself along to a residential conference 196 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:32,000 of senior academics, 197 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:35,000 and pop into the discotheque on the final night. 198 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:39,000 (Laughter) And there you will see it -- grown men and women 199 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:43,000 writhing uncontrollably, off the beat, 200 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:47,000 waiting until it ends so they can go home and write a paper about it. 201 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:53,000 Now our education system is predicated on the idea of academic ability. 202 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:56,000 And there's a reason. 203 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:58,000 The whole system was invented -- around the world, there were 204 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:00,000 no public systems of education, really, before the 19th century. 205 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:03,000 They all came into being 206 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:04,000 to meet the needs of industrialism. 207 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:07,000 So the hierarchy is rooted on two ideas. 208 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:11,000 Number one, that the most useful subjects for work 209 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:13,000 are at the top. So you were probably steered benignly away 210 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:15,000 from things at school when you were a kid, things you liked, 211 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:17,000 on the grounds that you would 212 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:20,000 never get a job doing that. Is that right? 213 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:22,000 Don't do music, you're not going to be a musician; 214 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:24,000 don't do art, you won't be an artist. 215 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:29,000 Benign advice -- now, profoundly mistaken. The whole world 216 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:30,000 is engulfed in a revolution. 217 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:33,000 And the second is academic ability, which has really come to dominate 218 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:34,000 our view of intelligence, 219 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:37,000 because the universities designed the system in their image. 220 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:39,000 If you think of it, the whole system 221 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:41,000 of public education around the world is a protracted process 222 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:43,000 of university entrance. 223 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:46,000 And the consequence is that many highly talented, 224 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:48,000 brilliant, creative people think they're not, 225 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:50,000 because the thing they were good at at school 226 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:54,000 wasn't valued, or was actually stigmatized. 227 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:56,000 And I think we can't afford to go on that way. 228 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,000 In the next 30 years, according to UNESCO, 229 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:01,000 more people worldwide will be graduating 230 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:03,000 through education than since the beginning of history. 231 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:05,000 More people, and it's the combination 232 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:07,000 of all the things we've talked about -- 233 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:10,000 technology and its transformation effect on work, and demography 234 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:12,000 and the huge explosion in population. 235 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:15,000 Suddenly, degrees aren't worth anything. Isn't that true? 236 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:19,000 When I was a student, if you had a degree, you had a job. 237 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:22,000 If you didn't have a job it's because you didn't want one. 238 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:25,000 And I didn't want one, frankly. (Laughter) 239 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:30,000 But now kids with degrees are often 240 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:31,000 heading home to carry on playing video games, 241 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:34,000 because you need an MA where the previous job required a BA, 242 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:37,000 and now you need a PhD for the other. 243 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:39,000 It's a process of academic inflation. 244 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:41,000 And it indicates the whole structure of education 245 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:43,000 is shifting beneath our feet. We need to radically rethink 246 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:44,000 our view of intelligence. 247 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:46,000 We know three things about intelligence. 248 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:49,000 One, it's diverse. We think about the world in all the ways 249 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:51,000 that we experience it. We think visually, 250 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:54,000 we think in sound, we think kinesthetically. 251 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:57,000 We think in abstract terms, we think in movement. 252 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:59,000 Secondly, intelligence is dynamic. 253 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:02,000 If you look at the interactions of a human brain, as we heard 254 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:05,000 yesterday from a number of presentations, 255 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:07,000 intelligence is wonderfully interactive. 256 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:10,000 The brain isn't divided into compartments. 257 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:13,000 In fact, creativity -- which I define as the process 258 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:15,000 of having original ideas that have value -- 259 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:18,000 more often than not comes about through the interaction 260 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:21,000 of different disciplinary ways of seeing things. 261 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:23,000 The brain is intentionally -- by the way, 262 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:26,000 there's a shaft of nerves that joins the two halves of the brain 263 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:28,000 called the corpus callosum. It's thicker in women. 264 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:30,000 Following off from Helen yesterday, I think 265 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:34,000 this is probably why women are better at multi-tasking. 266 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:36,000 Because you are, aren't you? 267 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:39,000 There's a raft of research, but I know it from my personal life. 268 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:41,000 If my wife is cooking a meal at home -- 269 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:45,000 which is not often, thankfully. (Laughter) 270 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:48,000 But you know, she's doing -- no, she's good at some things -- 271 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:50,000 but if she's cooking, you know, 272 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:52,000 she's dealing with people on the phone, 273 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:55,000 she's talking to the kids, she's painting the ceiling, 274 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:58,000 she's doing open-heart surgery over here. 275 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:01,000 If I'm cooking, the door is shut, the kids are out, 276 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:04,000 the phone's on the hook, if she comes in I get annoyed. 277 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:17,000 I say, "Terry, please, I'm trying to fry an egg in here. Give me a break." (Laughter) 278 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:19,000 Actually, you know that old philosophical thing, 279 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:22,000 if a tree falls in a forest and nobody hears it, 280 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:25,000 did it happen? Remember that old chestnut? 281 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:28,000 I saw a great t-shirt really recently which said, "If a man speaks his mind 282 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:31,000 in a forest, and no woman hears him, 283 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:40,000 is he still wrong?" (Laughter) 284 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:42,000 And the third thing about intelligence is, 285 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:45,000 it's distinct. I'm doing a new book at the moment 286 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:47,000 called "Epiphany," which is based on a series of 287 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:49,000 interviews with people about how they discovered 288 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:51,000 their talent. I'm fascinated by how people got to be there. 289 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:54,000 It's really prompted by a conversation I had 290 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:56,000 with a wonderful woman who maybe most people 291 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:58,000 have never heard of; she's called Gillian Lynne -- 292 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:00,000 have you heard of her? Some have. She's a choreographer 293 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,000 and everybody knows her work. 294 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:04,000 She did "Cats" and "Phantom of the Opera." 295 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:08,000 She's wonderful. I used to be on the board of the Royal Ballet in England, 296 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:10,000 as you can see. 297 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:12,000 Anyway, Gillian and I had lunch one day and I said, 298 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:14,000 "Gillian, how'd you get to be a dancer?" And she said 299 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:16,000 it was interesting; when she was at school, 300 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:19,000 she was really hopeless. And the school, in the '30s, 301 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:21,000 wrote to her parents and said, "We think 302 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:23,000 Gillian has a learning disorder." She couldn't concentrate; 303 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:25,000 she was fidgeting. I think now they'd say 304 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:29,000 she had ADHD. Wouldn't you? But this was the 1930s, 305 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:32,000 and ADHD hadn't been invented at this point. 306 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:35,000 It wasn't an available condition. (Laughter) 307 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:39,000 People weren't aware they could have that. 308 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:43,000 Anyway, she went to see this specialist. So, this oak-paneled room, 309 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:46,000 and she was there with her mother, 310 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:49,000 and she was led and sat on this chair at the end, 311 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:51,000 and she sat on her hands for 20 minutes while 312 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:53,000 this man talked to her mother about all 313 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:57,000 the problems Gillian was having at school. And at the end of it -- 314 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:59,000 because she was disturbing people; 315 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:01,000 her homework was always late; and so on, 316 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:04,000 little kid of eight -- in the end, the doctor went and sat 317 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:06,000 next to Gillian and said, "Gillian, 318 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:08,000 I've listened to all these things that your mother's 319 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:10,000 told me, and I need to speak to her privately." 320 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:13,000 He said, "Wait here. We'll be back; we won't be very long," 321 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:15,000 and they went and left her. 322 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:17,000 But as they went out the room, he turned on the radio 323 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:19,000 that was sitting on his desk. And when they 324 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:21,000 got out the room, he said to her mother, 325 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:24,000 "Just stand and watch her." And the minute they left the room, 326 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:28,000 she said, she was on her feet, moving to the music. 327 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:30,000 And they watched for a few minutes 328 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:33,000 and he turned to her mother and said, 329 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:37,000 "Mrs. Lynne, Gillian isn't sick; she's a dancer. 330 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:39,000 Take her to a dance school." 331 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:41,000 I said, "What happened?" 332 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:44,000 She said, "She did. I can't tell you how wonderful it was. 333 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:46,000 We walked in this room and it was full of 334 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:49,000 people like me. People who couldn't sit still. 335 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:52,000 People who had to move to think." Who had to move to think. 336 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:54,000 They did ballet; they did tap; they did jazz; 337 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:56,000 they did modern; they did contemporary. 338 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:59,000 She was eventually auditioned for the Royal Ballet School; 339 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:01,000 she became a soloist; she had a wonderful career 340 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:03,000 at the Royal Ballet. She eventually graduated 341 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:05,000 from the Royal Ballet School and 342 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:08,000 founded her own company -- the Gillian Lynne Dance Company -- 343 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:11,000 met Andrew Lloyd Weber. She's been responsible for 344 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:13,000 some of the most successful musical theater 345 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:18,000 productions in history; she's given pleasure to millions; 346 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:21,000 and she's a multi-millionaire. Somebody else 347 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:25,000 might have put her on medication and told her 348 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:27,000 to calm down. 349 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:30,000 Now, I think ... (Applause) What I think it comes to is this: 350 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:32,000 Al Gore spoke the other night 351 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:35,000 about ecology and the revolution that was triggered by Rachel Carson. 352 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:39,000 I believe our only hope for the future 353 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:42,000 is to adopt a new conception of human ecology, 354 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:46,000 one in which we start to reconstitute our conception 355 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:48,000 of the richness of human capacity. 356 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:52,000 Our education system has mined our minds in the way 357 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:54,000 that we strip-mine the earth: for a particular commodity. 358 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:57,000 And for the future, it won't serve us. 359 00:17:57,000 --> 00:18:00,000 We have to rethink the fundamental principles 360 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:02,000 on which we're educating our children. There was 361 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:06,000 a wonderful quote by Jonas Salk, who said, "If all the insects 362 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:09,000 were to disappear from the earth, 363 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:12,000 within 50 years all life on Earth would end. 364 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:15,000 If all human beings disappeared from the earth, 365 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:19,000 within 50 years all forms of life would flourish." 366 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:21,000 And he's right. 367 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:24,000 What TED celebrates is the gift of the human imagination. 368 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:28,000 We have to be careful now that we use this gift 369 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:31,000 wisely and that we avert some of the scenarios 370 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:34,000 that we've talked about. And the only way 371 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:38,000 we'll do it is by seeing our creative capacities 372 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:40,000 for the richness they are and seeing 373 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:43,000 our children for the hope that they are. And our task 374 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:46,000 is to educate their whole being, so they can face this future. 375 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:49,000 By the way -- we may not see this future, 376 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:52,000 but they will. And our job is to help 377 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:54,000 them make something of it. Thank you very much.