1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,000 这个会场看起来 2 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:04,000 能容纳600人, 3 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:06,000 但事实上这里却有更多人, 4 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:08,000 因为我们中的每一个人 5 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:11,000 都有多重性格。 6 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:14,000 从我还是个小女孩时起,我就有两个主要性格。 7 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:16,000 这两个性格在我体内 8 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:18,000 不断有冲突与对话。 9 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:20,000 我把它们称为“神秘者” 10 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:22,000 和“战士”。 11 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:24,000 我出身于一个 12 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:26,000 在政治上十分活跃 13 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:28,000 并信仰无神论的知识分子家庭。 14 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:31,000 在我家有这样一个公式: 15 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:33,000 如果你有才智, 16 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:36,000 那么你就不会是个精神丰富的人。 17 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:38,000 我是家里的怪人。 18 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:40,000 我是一个奇特的小孩, 19 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:42,000 我想与 20 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:45,000 可能存在的另一个世界展开深入对话, 21 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:48,000 它超越了我们所能感知到的这个世界。 22 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:50,000 我想知道 23 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:52,000 我们人类所看到、 24 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:55,000 听到和想到的, 25 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:57,000 是不是与事物的真相 26 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:59,000 一模一样。 27 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:01,000 为了寻找答案, 28 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:03,000 我做过天主教弥撒; 29 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:05,000 我尾随过我的邻居; 30 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:07,000 我读过萨特和苏格拉底。 31 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:09,000 当我上高中时, 32 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:11,000 一件神奇的事情发生了: 33 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:13,000 东方的精神导师 34 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:16,000 开始席卷美国沿岸。 35 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:18,000 我对自己说, 36 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:20,000 “我想成为他们中的一员。” 37 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:22,000 自从那以后, 38 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:25,000 我一直在神秘的道路上行进, 39 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:27,000 努力摆脱 40 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:29,000 爱因斯坦所说的 41 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:31,000 “日常生活中的 42 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:34,000 错觉幻象。” 43 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:37,000 他这是指什么呢?让我展示给你。 44 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:39,000 请呼吸, 45 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:42,000 吸入房间里的新鲜空气。 46 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:46,000 现在,看到这个奇怪的, 47 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:49,000 生活在水下, 48 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:51,000 看上去像是珊瑚礁的东西了吗? 49 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:54,000 这其实是人的气管。 50 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:56,000 而这些彩色水珠 51 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:58,000 实际上是微生物, 52 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:00,000 它们现在就在这房间里, 53 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:03,000 就在我们周围。 54 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:06,000 如果我们对这种基础的生物学一无所知, 55 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:09,000 想想看我们会错过多少 56 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:12,000 在最微小的亚原子间 57 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:15,000 和在最壮观的宇宙间的发现。 58 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:18,000 我作为一个神秘者的岁月 59 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:20,000 几乎使我对自己所有的假设 60 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:22,000 都产生了疑问。 61 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:25,000 它们让我勇于承认自己的无知。 62 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:28,000 当我身上的神秘部分 63 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:30,000 含糊地这么说时, 64 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:33,000 战士翻了一下眼睛。 65 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:36,000 她现在关心 66 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:39,000 这世上发生的事。 67 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:42,000 她很担忧。 68 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:45,000 她说,“对不起,我很生气, 69 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:47,000 我知道一些事, 70 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:49,000 现在我们最好忙于此事。” 71 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:51,000 我到目前为止都是一个战士, 72 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:53,000 为妇女权利而努力, 73 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:56,000 从事政治活动, 74 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:59,000 成为一名保护环境的积极分子。 75 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:02,000 这可能有点疯狂, 76 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:04,000 让神秘者和战士同时存在 77 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:06,000 于我的身体内。 78 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:09,000 我一直被那些 79 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:11,000 杰出人物所吸引。 80 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:13,000 他们把自己的一生 81 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:15,000 都奉献给人道事业, 82 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:17,000 并能集战士的毅力 83 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:20,000 和神秘者的魅力于一身。 84 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:23,000 像马丁·路德·金, 85 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:25,000 他写道,“我永远无法成为 86 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:27,000 我要成为的人, 87 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:29,000 直到你成为了 88 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:31,000 你想要成为的人。 89 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:34,000 这就是真理之间 90 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:36,000 相互关联的结构。“ 91 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:39,000 又例如特雷莎修女,另一个神秘家兼战士, 92 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:42,000 她说,“这个世界上的问题 93 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:45,000 是我们对家人的定义 94 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:47,000 太小了。” 95 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:49,000 又比如纳尔逊·曼德拉, 96 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:51,000 他一直都信奉 97 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:53,000 非洲的Ubuntu概念, 98 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:55,000 意思是我需要你 99 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:57,000 才能成为我, 100 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:00,000 你也需要我来完善你自己。 101 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:02,000 我们所有人都爱拿 102 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:04,000 这三个神秘者兼战士举例, 103 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:06,000 好像他们自出生 104 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:08,000 就带有圣徒的印记。 105 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:10,000 但是事实上我们每个人都有 106 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:13,000 和他们一样的能力, 107 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:15,000 我们现在需要 108 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:17,000 继续他们的工作。 109 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:19,000 我对于通过 110 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:22,000 我们自身的文化来妖魔化那些 111 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:25,000 与己不同的文化而深感不安, 112 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:27,000 我们恶语相向, 113 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:30,000 在我们之中造成最大的分歧。 114 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:32,000 听听这些 115 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:34,000 畅销书的书名, 116 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:36,000 它们来自美国政治立场 117 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:38,000 的两方面。 118 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:41,000 《自由主义是一种精神缺陷》 119 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:44,000 《拉什·林堡是个大白痴》 120 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:47,000 《笨蛋与爱国者》 121 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:49,000 《与白痴争论》 122 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:51,000 它们大概是挖苦人的, 123 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:54,000 但这么说却很危险。 124 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:56,000 下面这个书名听上去或许觉得耳熟, 125 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:59,000 但它的作者可能会把你吓一跳: 126 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:01,000 《对抗谎言、愚蠢 127 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:03,000 和胆怯 128 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:05,000 的四年半》 129 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:07,000 这是谁写的? 130 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:09,000 这是阿道夫·希特勒 131 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:12,000 《我的奋斗》的最初书名, 132 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:15,000 一本由纳粹党发行的书。 133 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:17,000 人类历史上最糟糕的年代, 134 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:19,000 无论是在柬埔寨、德国 135 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:21,000 或者卢旺达, 136 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:24,000 都是通过丑化异见人士而开始。 137 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:26,000 这之后就会升级 138 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:29,000 成为暴力的极端主义。 139 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:32,000 这也是我有一个新举动的原因。 140 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:35,000 它对我们所有人都有益处, 141 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:37,000 包括我自己, 142 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:39,000 它可以抵消我们 143 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:41,000 排斥异见者的趋势。 144 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:44,000 我意识到我们都是非常忙的人, 145 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:47,000 所以不必担心,你可以在午休时做这件事。 146 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:49,000 我把这个举动称为 147 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:52,000 “与异见者共进午餐”。 148 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:54,000 如果你是 149 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,000 一个共和党人, 150 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:59,000 你可以和一个民主党人一起吃午饭; 151 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:02,000 又比如说 152 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:04,000 你是个民主党人, 153 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:06,000 那就和一个共和党人一起吃午饭吧。 154 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:09,000 如果和这些人一起吃午饭的想法 155 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:12,000 会使你失去胃口, 156 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:15,000 我建议你从身旁的人开始, 157 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:18,000 因为你的左邻右舍中并不缺少 158 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:21,000 和你意见不同的人。 159 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:23,000 或许是一个 160 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:25,000 在清真寺做礼拜的人; 161 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:28,000 或许是一个基督徒或犹太教徒; 162 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:30,000 或许那个人和你 163 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:33,000 对于堕胎持有不同意见; 164 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:35,000 甚至可能是你姐姐的那位 165 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:38,000 不相信全球变暖的丈夫; 166 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:43,000 或者一个与你的生活方式截然不同的人; 167 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:45,000 或者是一个人,他的观点 168 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:48,000 让你听了后会怒不可遏。 169 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:51,000 几个星期前, 170 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:55,000 我与一个参加茶话会的保守党女人共进午餐。 171 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:59,000 从表面上看,她的观点会让我怒不可遏。 172 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:02,000 她是一个右翼活动家, 173 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:05,000 而我是一个左翼活动家。 174 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:08,000 我们使用一些原则 175 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:10,000 使得我们的对话进行下去, 176 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:12,000 你也可以使用它们, 177 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:14,000 因为我知道大家都会 178 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:16,000 与持有不同观点的人共进午餐。 179 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:19,000 首先,确定一个目标: 180 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:21,000 那就是要去了解一个人, 181 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:25,000 并且你对他所在的团体有成见。 182 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:28,000 然后,在你们见面之前, 183 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:30,000 就这些基本原则达成一致。 184 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:33,000 我的午饭伙伴和我 185 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:35,000 一同想出这些原则: 186 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:37,000 不要试图说服、捍卫 187 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:39,000 或者中途打断。 188 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:41,000 要保有好奇, 189 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:43,000 要有真诚的交流, 190 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:45,000 要聆听。 191 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:47,000 达成一致后,我们用下面几个问题 192 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:49,000 开始深入交流: 193 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:52,000 请和我分享一些你的生活经历。 194 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:54,000 你最关注 195 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:56,000 哪些事件? 196 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:58,000 你一直想从与你不同的人 197 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:01,000 身上了解什么? 198 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:03,000 我和我午饭伙伴 199 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:05,000 得出一些重要的启示, 200 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:08,000 我想和大家分享其中的一个。 201 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:10,000 我想这个观点 202 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:12,000 与人们之间的问题 203 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:14,000 无论何时何地都有关联。 204 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:17,000 我问她为什么她所在的阵营 205 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:19,000 对我们进行无理的指控 206 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:22,000 以及编造谎言。 207 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,000 她想知道具体的例子。 208 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:26,000 “好像我们是一群 209 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:28,000 道德败坏 210 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:30,000 爱好恐怖主义的精英。” 211 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:32,000 她相当震惊。 212 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:34,000 她认为是我们 213 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:37,000 更经常地抨击他们。 214 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:39,000 比如我们称他们为无脑的 215 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:42,000 持枪种族主义者。 216 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:44,000 我们都惊讶于 217 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:46,000 这些标签 218 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:48,000 不适用于 219 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:50,000 我们认识的任何一个人。 220 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:52,000 因为我们已建立起某种信任, 221 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:55,000 我们相信彼此的真诚。 222 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:59,000 我们都同意当下次 223 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:01,000 在自己所在的阵营里听到 224 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:03,000 可能造成伤害或过于偏执 225 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:05,000 甚至被别有用心的人利用 226 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:07,000 进而煽动人群的排他言论时, 227 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:10,000 我们要出言制止 228 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:12,000 这种情况。 229 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:14,000 在我们的午餐结束时, 230 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:16,000 我们感谢彼此的坦诚。 231 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:19,000 我们谁也不试图去改变对方。 232 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:22,000 但我们也不必假装 233 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:25,000 彼此间的差异会随着午餐而 234 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:27,000 消失不见。 235 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:32,000 相反,我们一同 236 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:34,000 迈出了第一步, 237 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:36,000 突破我们的下意识反应, 238 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:38,000 来到一个Ubuntu的境界, 239 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:40,000 只有这样, 240 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:42,000 我们才能找到 241 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:46,000 解决表面上最棘手的问题 242 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:48,000 的方法。 243 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:51,000 那么你会和谁共进午餐呢? 244 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:53,000 下一次当你碰到 245 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:55,000 某种排他行为时, 246 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:57,000 那会是一个提示。 247 00:09:57,000 --> 00:10:00,000 在你午饭时会发生什么? 248 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,000 天堂会敞开吗? 249 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:05,000 音响里会传来“四海一家”的音乐吗? 250 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:07,000 很可能不会。 251 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:09,000 因为Ubuntu的进程十分缓慢, 252 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:11,000 并且很难。 253 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:13,000 要有两个人 254 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:15,000 解除无所不知 255 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:17,000 的伪装; 256 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:19,000 要有两个人, 257 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:21,000 两个战士, 258 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:23,000 放下他们的武器 259 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:26,000 彼此互相接近。 260 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:29,000 伟大的波斯诗人鲁米是这么说的: 261 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:33,000 “超越思想上的 262 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:36,000 坏与好, 263 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:38,000 有一片天地, 264 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:40,000 你我将会相遇。” 265 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:47,000 (掌声)