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Dialogue: 0,0:00:18.90,0:00:21.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,<v ->We are at, in the 21st century,</v>
Dialogue: 0,0:00:21.20,0:00:23.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at the head of an ever-expanding past
Dialogue: 0,0:00:23.72,0:00:25.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or an ever-expanding history.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:29.00,0:00:31.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We only move into the 21st century
Dialogue: 0,0:00:31.64,0:00:33.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on the foundation of things
Dialogue: 0,0:00:33.64,0:00:36.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that have been established long, long ago.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:42.96,0:00:44.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The principles that govern the way
Dialogue: 0,0:00:44.76,0:00:48.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,visual representation works \Nare still the same principles
Dialogue: 0,0:00:48.44,0:00:54.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that governed the way they worked 500 years ago, a thousand years ago, two thousands years ago.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:56.88,0:00:58.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Makes perfect sense to me
Dialogue: 0,0:00:58.72,0:01:02.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to go back to the origins of these things
Dialogue: 0,0:01:02.36,0:01:03.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and pick up from there,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:05.40,0:01:06.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to take up the challenge, really,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:06.84,0:01:10.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to find another way to make \Nthese things seem fresh,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:10.52,0:01:11.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,even if they are not.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:21.76,0:01:23.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The painting "Many Mansions,"
Dialogue: 0,0:01:23.12,0:01:26.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which I finished back in 1995,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:26.16,0:01:31.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's very classical structure \Nthat the imagery is hung on.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:34.04,0:01:36.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When I started out, the \Nartists that I really admired,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:36.36,0:01:40.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people like Jericho, that whole \Ngenre of history painting,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:40.52,0:01:42.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that grand narrative style of painting
Dialogue: 0,0:01:42.44,0:01:44.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was something that I really \Nwanted to position my work
Dialogue: 0,0:01:44.76,0:01:46.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in relation to.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:46.84,0:01:50.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so in order to achieve \Na similar kind of authority
Dialogue: 0,0:01:50.00,0:01:51.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that those paintings had,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:51.60,0:01:54.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I had to adopt a similar structural format.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:58.09,0:01:59.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think in general
Dialogue: 0,0:01:59.16,0:02:01.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the paintings have been really well received,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:01.40,0:02:03.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but there's a lingering controversy
Dialogue: 0,0:02:03.56,0:02:07.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,around the sort of unequivocally black,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:07.12,0:02:09.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,kind of emphatically black figures.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:10.76,0:02:12.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I wouldn't have done them if I didn't feel it,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:12.68,0:02:17.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I tend to think having that extreme of color,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:17.68,0:02:20.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that kind of black, is amazingly beautiful.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:22.60,0:02:23.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And powerful.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:34.60,0:02:37.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The first painting I did was way back in 1980,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:37.88,0:02:39.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was a painting called "A Portrait of the Artist
Dialogue: 0,0:02:39.56,0:02:41.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as a Shadow of His Former Self."
Dialogue: 0,0:02:41.60,0:02:46.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it was the first time \NI had used this simplified,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:46.12,0:02:49.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,kind of reductive representation \Nof a black figure.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:49.40,0:02:50.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so that painting was the one
Dialogue: 0,0:02:50.80,0:02:52.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that established the black figure
Dialogue: 0,0:02:52.88,0:02:55.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as a mode of operating for me.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:07.44,0:03:09.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What I was thinking to do with my image
Dialogue: 0,0:03:09.52,0:03:16.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was to reclaim the image of \Nblackness as an emblem of power.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:17.38,0:03:21.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I think it still functions \Npretty much that same way.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:29.76,0:03:44.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(somber organ music)
Dialogue: 0,0:03:44.36,0:03:45.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I do a lot of different things,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:45.52,0:03:47.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I don't find any of them incompatible,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:47.68,0:03:50.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because they all sort of reinforce each other.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:52.92,0:03:56.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's like whether I'm using \Nfilm, video, or anything else,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:57.24,0:03:59.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,either I'm working with a set of conventions
Dialogue: 0,0:03:59.48,0:04:00.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that have already been established,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:00.76,0:04:02.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or I'm working against a set of conventions
Dialogue: 0,0:04:02.60,0:04:03.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that have already been established,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:03.72,0:04:05.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but the primary source
Dialogue: 0,0:04:05.44,0:04:07.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of my ideas about visual representation
Dialogue: 0,0:04:07.84,0:04:10.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,come from pictorial \Nrepresentation through painting.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:11.88,0:04:13.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This light is actually going to sit
Dialogue: 0,0:04:15.36,0:04:18.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,near here with a big sun on it.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:18.96,0:04:22.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(light switch clicks)\NSo it's gonna have its own light source.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:24.92,0:04:26.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hi, can you give me a hand?
Dialogue: 0,0:04:26.96,0:04:28.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because I want to push this back.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:28.84,0:04:30.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These houses actually are \Npart of a project I'm doing
Dialogue: 0,0:04:30.88,0:04:32.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for a show at the Columbus Museum,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:32.60,0:04:34.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,entitled "Illusions of Eden."
Dialogue: 0,0:04:35.28,0:04:38.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The theme I've chosen to work \Nwith is the theme of home,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:39.04,0:04:41.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and essentially staged it.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:41.64,0:04:43.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What I'm looking at, in a way,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:43.72,0:04:48.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is how impenetrable those places are
Dialogue: 0,0:04:48.08,0:04:51.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to people who are not on the inside.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:52.52,0:04:57.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The whole idea of us really being
Dialogue: 0,0:04:57.72,0:05:00.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in some ways obsessed at this point
Dialogue: 0,0:05:00.00,0:05:01.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with penetrating that wall,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:03.08,0:05:05.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,finding out what other people are doing,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:05.76,0:05:06.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what's going on in their lives,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:06.92,0:05:08.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what's going on in their houses.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:08.64,0:05:10.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And is what's going on in their houses
Dialogue: 0,0:05:10.52,0:05:13.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what we expect to be there?
Dialogue: 0,0:05:19.52,0:05:28.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(train rattling)
Dialogue: 0,0:05:38.52,0:05:41.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is, it's live, all the way live.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:41.64,0:05:42.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,<v Guest>It is.</v>\N(overlapping chatter)
Dialogue: 0,0:05:42.84,0:05:43.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,<v ->This is the Bruce household.</v>
Dialogue: 0,0:05:43.44,0:05:47.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,<v Guest>Oh, yeah.</v>\N(overlapping chatter)
Dialogue: 0,0:05:47.15,0:05:50.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,<v ->Oh!</v>\N(guests laughing)
Dialogue: 0,0:05:50.35,0:05:52.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,<v Kerry>Somebody's got to \Ntake up for your mother.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:52.46,0:05:53.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,<v ->Yes.</v>\NThere we go.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:53.76,0:05:55.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I didn't know it at first.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:55.28,0:05:57.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,<v Guest>Now, Kerry, I don't have them.</v>
Dialogue: 0,0:05:57.46,0:05:58.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,<v Guest>Go ahead. Go on.</v>
Dialogue: 0,0:05:58.08,0:05:59.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,<v Kerry>That's a favorite.</v>
Dialogue: 0,0:05:59.64,0:06:01.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Kerry laughing)
Dialogue: 0,0:06:01.24,0:06:07.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,<v ->This was for my 74th birthday from Kerry,</v>
Dialogue: 0,0:06:07.44,0:06:12.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it says, "What did you \Nget Super T for her birthday?"
Dialogue: 0,0:06:12.11,0:06:15.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You see how super I am?
Dialogue: 0,0:06:15.08,0:06:16.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Super T!
Dialogue: 0,0:06:16.92,0:06:18.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It says, "Lots of love."
Dialogue: 0,0:06:18.84,0:06:21.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Lots of love," and I like that.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:21.24,0:06:24.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,<v ->The defining experience I had</v>
Dialogue: 0,0:06:24.12,0:06:25.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that made me understand
Dialogue: 0,0:06:25.92,0:06:28.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that being an artist was what I wanted to be
Dialogue: 0,0:06:28.68,0:06:31.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was that my kindergarten teacher
Dialogue: 0,0:06:31.28,0:06:35.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,kept a scrapbook of old photographs
Dialogue: 0,0:06:35.32,0:06:36.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,she had clipped out of magazines,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:36.76,0:06:40.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Christmas cards, Valentines cards, you know,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:41.24,0:06:43.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all manner of greeting cards, advertisements,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:43.44,0:06:46.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and things like that, and she kept that scrapbook,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:46.12,0:06:48.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it was something that she only made available
Dialogue: 0,0:06:48.48,0:06:51.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the kid who was best behaved that day.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:52.36,0:06:53.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And if you were really well-behaved,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:53.80,0:06:55.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you got to look at that scrapbook
Dialogue: 0,0:06:55.28,0:06:57.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,while everybody else took their nap after recess.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:58.68,0:07:00.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it really was that book.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:00.08,0:07:02.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's like the day I got a \Nchance to look at that book,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:02.40,0:07:03.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it really changed my life,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:03.84,0:07:05.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because I sat there looking at the book.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:05.44,0:07:08.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, with tears in my eyes,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:08.28,0:07:10.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, literally with tears in my eyes,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:10.52,0:07:13.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thinking that, "Wow, this is just so amazing,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:13.60,0:07:15.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that's what I want to do.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:15.08,0:07:16.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I want to make pictures like these.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:16.72,0:07:18.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I want to make pictures that affect other people
Dialogue: 0,0:07:18.92,0:07:20.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the way these pictures are affecting me."
Dialogue: 0,0:07:20.80,0:07:22.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,<v ->I don't have a date on this card,</v>
Dialogue: 0,0:07:22.96,0:07:26.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it's an early collage, just says "beautiful,"
Dialogue: 0,0:07:27.44,0:07:29.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it has a black figure.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:31.56,0:07:33.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I remember asking Kerry
Dialogue: 0,0:07:33.92,0:07:35.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,did he mean to have that spot there.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:35.88,0:07:37.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But he did.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:37.20,0:07:38.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(all laughing)
Dialogue: 0,0:07:38.56,0:07:43.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so that's how I began to understand
Dialogue: 0,0:07:43.00,0:07:45.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the many complexities.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:59.44,0:08:02.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,<v ->When I was in junior high school,</v>
Dialogue: 0,0:08:02.40,0:08:06.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I got a summer scholarship to take a drawing class
Dialogue: 0,0:08:06.08,0:08:07.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at the Otis Art Institute.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:09.16,0:08:11.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The drawing teacher had a book
Dialogue: 0,0:08:11.80,0:08:13.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that he put on the opaque projector.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:13.88,0:08:16.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was "Images of Dignity: The \NDrawings of Charles White."
Dialogue: 0,0:08:18.32,0:08:19.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he showed us those drawings,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:19.84,0:08:23.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I had never seen anything like it before,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:23.08,0:08:25.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because prior to that, almost all of the artists
Dialogue: 0,0:08:25.80,0:08:28.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I had encountered in art \Nhistory books were European.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:28.72,0:08:31.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I thought, "Wow, this is just amazing."
Dialogue: 0,0:08:32.88,0:08:33.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He says, "Well, you know,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:33.64,0:08:37.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Charles White's got a studio upstairs."
Dialogue: 0,0:08:37.16,0:08:39.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he said it was okay for \Nus to go into the studio
Dialogue: 0,0:08:39.80,0:08:41.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and see some work in progress.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:43.10,0:08:45.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You got to see the process.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:45.84,0:08:48.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You got to see how ugly a drawing can look
Dialogue: 0,0:08:48.80,0:08:50.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,before it was brought to this point
Dialogue: 0,0:08:50.16,0:08:52.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of refinement and finish.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:53.72,0:08:55.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That was what was really interesting to me.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:55.68,0:08:59.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, seeing these stages.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:05.14,0:09:07.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then, yeah, that's...
Dialogue: 0,0:09:07.58,0:09:09.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(both laughing)\NLet's see what happens.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:09.14,0:09:12.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,<v Student>Are you sure?</v>\NWell, you got nothing to lose.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:12.69,0:09:14.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,<v Artist>The initial images, \Nthe underlaying images
Dialogue: 0,0:09:14.56,0:09:18.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all come from photographs of my family in Cuba.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:19.16,0:09:25.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They start at about '38 and \Ngo right up to the revolution.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:25.06,0:09:27.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,<v Kerry>How do you intend now to incorporate</v>
Dialogue: 0,0:09:27.40,0:09:28.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the present moment?
Dialogue: 0,0:09:28.48,0:09:29.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is that important at all?
Dialogue: 0,0:09:29.36,0:09:30.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,<v ->That's a good question.</v>
Dialogue: 0,0:09:31.72,0:09:32.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Probably a dumb thing to say,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:32.68,0:09:35.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I hadn't really thought \Nthat all the way through yet.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:35.00,0:09:36.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,<v ->That's not a dumb thing to say,</v>
Dialogue: 0,0:09:36.60,0:09:37.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it's just the kinds of questions
Dialogue: 0,0:09:37.88,0:09:40.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I would be interested in asking
Dialogue: 0,0:09:40.04,0:09:43.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and hearing some reflection on.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:48.92,0:09:50.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Part of what I'm always interested in seeing
Dialogue: 0,0:09:50.96,0:09:52.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when I come to the museum
Dialogue: 0,0:09:52.20,0:09:56.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is not really how refined or \Nhow finished a work can be,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:56.16,0:09:57.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I'm really interested in showing,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:58.68,0:10:00.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,especially to my students,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:00.88,0:10:03.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,evidence of the artists' thinking
Dialogue: 0,0:10:03.04,0:10:05.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and evidence of the artists' process.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:09.00,0:10:11.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Some of what's evident in a painting like this,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:11.40,0:10:13.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,an unfinished painting, is that it always,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:13.64,0:10:18.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it reminds me of just how \Ndifficult making a painting is.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:23.20,0:10:26.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It confirms the suspicion that I always had
Dialogue: 0,0:10:26.92,0:10:29.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that these things don't come \Ninto existence by magic.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:35.00,0:10:39.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm gonna take this out, partly because,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:39.40,0:10:42.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when you're thinking about the \Nway to organize the painting,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:42.08,0:10:43.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there's some structural considerations
Dialogue: 0,0:10:43.52,0:10:45.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you have to keep in mind.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:45.88,0:10:48.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is definitely the kinds \Nof images you're working with.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:49.17,0:10:51.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They will actually tell you \Nhow to make your painting.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:54.84,0:10:58.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is essentially how I work on my stuff.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:58.88,0:11:00.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm always referring to some other source
Dialogue: 0,0:11:00.96,0:11:04.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to give me some clues to how things in my own work
Dialogue: 0,0:11:04.00,0:11:07.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can be organized better.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:26.32,0:11:29.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, what I'm doing right now is actually
Dialogue: 0,0:11:29.68,0:11:34.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm actually doing a comic strip in newspaper form
Dialogue: 0,0:11:34.16,0:11:36.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that I could use for a particular installation
Dialogue: 0,0:11:36.68,0:11:37.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at the Carnegie.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:40.48,0:11:45.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What I hit on as a subject was this idea
Dialogue: 0,0:11:45.52,0:11:47.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that when you go to the \Nmuseums to see African art,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:47.84,0:11:50.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,those symbolic representations
Dialogue: 0,0:11:50.24,0:11:52.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the heroes seem pretty inert.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:52.64,0:11:55.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The tradition from which they come
Dialogue: 0,0:11:55.00,0:11:57.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,doesn't have the same kind of currency
Dialogue: 0,0:11:57.84,0:12:03.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that the tradition of Greek \Nmythological heroes has,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:03.36,0:12:06.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,although there are parallels \Nbetween those two traditions.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:08.76,0:12:10.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so I thought what I would do
Dialogue: 0,0:12:10.28,0:12:13.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,would be to take those African sculptures
Dialogue: 0,0:12:13.32,0:12:16.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and re-animate them, in a sense,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:16.00,0:12:18.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And make them into the super heroes
Dialogue: 0,0:12:19.45,0:12:21.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to become like a new Luke Skywalker
Dialogue: 0,0:12:21.66,0:12:26.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or a new Darth Vader or a \Nnew Batman or a new Superman.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:27.40,0:12:30.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, when I was growing up reading Marvel comics,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:32.52,0:12:35.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the X-Men, the mighty Hulk, Spider-Man,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:35.72,0:12:39.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all of those characters were \Namazing characters to me.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:39.08,0:12:40.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so what I'm actually doing
Dialogue: 0,0:12:40.40,0:12:43.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is kind of reverting back \Nto my childhood, I guess.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:48.52,0:12:51.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I thought what I would do with this project
Dialogue: 0,0:12:51.04,0:12:53.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was to take a form that's in some ways
Dialogue: 0,0:12:53.45,0:12:55.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,already undervalued in America,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:57.12,0:12:59.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,take a subject that's under-represented
Dialogue: 0,0:13:01.04,0:13:02.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and try to find a way in which
Dialogue: 0,0:13:02.36,0:13:04.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we can carry these traditions into the future
Dialogue: 0,0:13:04.72,0:13:08.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so that they don't have to just dissipate and die.