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Dialogue: 0,0:00:05.84,0:00:07.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hello.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:12.08,0:00:15.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The two of us are starting
Dialogue: 0,0:00:15.13,0:00:19.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a level on a side-effect\Nor side-project or whatever,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:19.62,0:00:22.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,something which \Nis loosely connected to Wikidata,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:22.68,0:00:25.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is open data
Dialogue: 0,0:00:25.20,0:00:28.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we're glad to see you're here.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:28.17,0:00:29.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm Alice Wiegand.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:29.26,0:00:34.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm the project lead for open data\Nin the municipality of Düsseldorf,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:34.91,0:00:38.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and this is Knut Huhne, who is a student.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:38.84,0:00:40.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You may introduce yourself.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:42.17,0:00:44.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah, I'm a software developer by day,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:44.00,0:00:47.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and in my spare time\NI do a lot of work at Code for Germany,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:47.26,0:00:50.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is in community organization\Nthat I'll talk a bit about,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:50.35,0:00:54.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we try to build civic tech tools \Nbased on open data.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:54.27,0:00:57.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah, that's exactly what we need.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:57.17,0:01:01.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so let's see where we are [on this].
Dialogue: 0,0:01:03.33,0:01:06.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[inaudible]
Dialogue: 0,0:01:06.82,0:01:09.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So if we talk about open government data,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:09.15,0:01:11.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this is something where I think
Dialogue: 0,0:01:11.91,0:01:15.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the entire world is much more forward
Dialogue: 0,0:01:15.48,0:01:18.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,than Europe and especially Germany is.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:18.97,0:01:22.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But in Germany,\Nwhere we both come from and live,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:22.97,0:01:27.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this is getting some dynamics \Nbecause laws are changing.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:27.73,0:01:32.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And overall, we have just data\Nwhich is used, produced,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:32.97,0:01:35.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and cared
Dialogue: 0,0:01:35.51,0:01:40.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and maintained by government,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:41.06,0:01:44.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is just a reliable data source,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:44.17,0:01:48.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it's official data with a high value,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:48.35,0:01:51.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it is sometimes \Nreally surprising to see
Dialogue: 0,0:01:51.46,0:01:55.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what kind of data there is,\Nopenly kind of published.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:55.97,0:01:59.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So this is, for example...
Dialogue: 0,0:02:00.83,0:02:02.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I hope it opens soon.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:02.82,0:02:04.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This, for example, is...
Dialogue: 0,0:02:06.51,0:02:10.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's the measure of radioactivity in kale.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:10.48,0:02:12.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I think it's surprising,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:12.82,0:02:16.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I wonder why is it kale \Nand not red cabbage?
Dialogue: 0,0:02:16.84,0:02:19.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I wonder why is this a fixed date?
Dialogue: 0,0:02:19.77,0:02:23.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, 20th of November in 2013.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:23.93,0:02:26.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I wonder why is it that far away?
Dialogue: 0,0:02:26.73,0:02:30.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What are we doing \Nwith radioactivity in kale today?
Dialogue: 0,0:02:30.84,0:02:31.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't know.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:31.84,0:02:35.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So you find a lot \Nof these surprising things
Dialogue: 0,0:02:35.08,0:02:37.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when you start to...
Dialogue: 0,0:02:38.46,0:02:41.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What have I to do, do you know?
Dialogue: 0,0:02:41.04,0:02:44.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,...when you start to \Nlook at open data in Germany.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:49.21,0:02:51.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm confused with this computer.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:51.75,0:02:53.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Oh, yes. Thanks.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:53.82,0:02:57.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah, and this data usually is up to date.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:57.88,0:03:00.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, it should be, of course.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:00.53,0:03:05.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As in all data, we have our gaps there.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:05.22,0:03:11.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And overall if I just look \Non the region I know best,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:11.98,0:03:16.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we have 86
Dialogue: 0,0:03:17.17,0:03:22.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of singular portals \Nwith open data within Germany,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:22.02,0:03:25.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is on municipality level,\Non the country level,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:25.33,0:03:28.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on the federal country level, \Nand on state level.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:28.57,0:03:33.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And in Austria, it's 19;\Nand in Switzerland, it's 6,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:33.57,0:03:35.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and numbers are growing.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:35.77,0:03:38.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, of course, also,\Nquestion is why are we all doing
Dialogue: 0,0:03:38.77,0:03:41.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the same thing on different places?
Dialogue: 0,0:03:42.22,0:03:45.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It doesn't seem to be that efficient,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:45.66,0:03:49.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm not sure, but this is how\Nour world today works.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:49.62,0:03:53.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So now I find the right key, thanks.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:54.02,0:03:59.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And there are a lot of challenges\Nwhich we have to face
Dialogue: 0,0:03:59.08,0:04:04.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and kind of a huge gap \Nbetween wish and reality.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:04.42,0:04:07.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, after all, I do think there is a huge,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:07.86,0:04:12.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know, kind of [friendliness]
Dialogue: 0,0:04:12.93,0:04:15.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,between open data and Wikidata.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:15.53,0:04:18.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's all about essential data.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:18.11,0:04:24.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is about being as actual \Nor being as up to date as possible.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:24.60,0:04:29.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But in the end, when we look\Nat the open data platforms
Dialogue: 0,0:04:29.90,0:04:32.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in mostly Europe,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:32.33,0:04:35.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we find incompatible licenses.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:35.53,0:04:41.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So usually mainly municipalities
Dialogue: 0,0:04:41.42,0:04:43.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,choose a BY license,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:43.66,0:04:49.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because they think it would be good\Nto know where this data came from
Dialogue: 0,0:04:49.24,0:04:51.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and to be named there.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:51.51,0:04:54.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And this is really a crazy thing.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:54.48,0:04:56.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I looked at open data portals,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:56.53,0:05:01.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we have a portal in Düsseldorf \Nfor two years now
Dialogue: 0,0:05:01.55,0:05:06.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and by design, we choose the 0 license.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:06.73,0:05:09.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I found that open data in Zurich--
Dialogue: 0,0:05:09.77,0:05:12.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Okay, it's not Germany, but it's Zurich--
Dialogue: 0,0:05:12.31,0:05:15.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they are doing \Na lot of cool stuff there as well.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:15.66,0:05:18.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And they also use the 0 license.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:18.52,0:05:25.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But usually municipalities\Nlike CC BY licenses, sadly.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:25.95,0:05:29.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And another thing we have to face
Dialogue: 0,0:05:29.31,0:05:34.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is that, especially in municipalities,\Nthis kind of task to publish
Dialogue: 0,0:05:34.80,0:05:38.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this internal data \Non a free and open license,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:38.60,0:05:40.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on a platform, wherever,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:40.47,0:05:45.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is just given to a person \Nwho usually does something else.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:45.24,0:05:48.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it's not, you know, a 100 person task
Dialogue: 0,0:05:48.33,0:05:51.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for this person to do,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:51.01,0:05:55.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but something to do, you know,\Nwith all the other things.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:57.62,0:06:00.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Overall, I think we can say
Dialogue: 0,0:06:00.11,0:06:06.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that of course there are people\Nwho are really doing a great job.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:06.31,0:06:11.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Usually, we don't find \Nthat level of expertise
Dialogue: 0,0:06:11.08,0:06:15.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on data analysis and data management
Dialogue: 0,0:06:15.06,0:06:20.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we would need to\Nto really find high-quality data
Dialogue: 0,0:06:20.75,0:06:24.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,within the open data \Nwhich comes from governances.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:24.82,0:06:27.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I think this is a problem,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:27.73,0:06:31.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I realized also\Nthat there's a language issue.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:31.22,0:06:35.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So if I just think about \Nputting my colleagues into this room,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:35.42,0:06:39.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,into the session we had just before, \Nabout data quality,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:40.71,0:06:43.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it would be problematic \Nto find a common language,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:43.91,0:06:48.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to figure out how we can start\Nto improve our data quality
Dialogue: 0,0:06:48.73,0:06:54.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so that Wikidata's data quality\Nis also improved.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:54.42,0:06:58.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Another thing \Nis that we have no standards
Dialogue: 0,0:06:58.42,0:07:02.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the name of anthologies,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:02.04,0:07:06.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the name of how we prepare data.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:06.33,0:07:09.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is a metadata standard,\Nwhich is great,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:09.06,0:07:13.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but this, after all, does not mean\Nthat we all do the same thing
Dialogue: 0,0:07:13.15,0:07:15.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that we find the same kind of data,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:15.71,0:07:18.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just because it is named in the same way.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:19.13,0:07:22.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But, overall, it's a lot of official data.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:22.11,0:07:24.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can get from open data.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:25.77,0:07:31.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I made an example here\Nwhich is about street names,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:31.40,0:07:34.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and usually you find a lot
Dialogue: 0,0:07:34.01,0:07:39.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of different forms and street names.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:39.68,0:07:42.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sometimes something like the Karlsplatz
Dialogue: 0,0:07:42.57,0:07:47.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's written with a C, \Nor with a K, or separated,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:47.31,0:07:51.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and sometimes this is also developing
Dialogue: 0,0:07:51.34,0:07:52.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,over the time.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:52.86,0:07:56.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And in the end, there's just\Nonly one official name
Dialogue: 0,0:07:56.70,0:07:58.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of a place or of a street,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:58.95,0:08:04.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it's the municipality \Nwhich can give you that name.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:04.04,0:08:07.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And this part, like a list\Nof official street names
Dialogue: 0,0:08:07.48,0:08:10.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is something which is regularly published
Dialogue: 0,0:08:10.37,0:08:14.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by a lot of municipalities \Nin their open data portals.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:14.66,0:08:19.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I think that at all \Nis a good start to figure out
Dialogue: 0,0:08:19.89,0:08:24.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what we can do with this \Nin Wikidata as well.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:24.46,0:08:27.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So this is my short introduction,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:27.45,0:08:32.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I'm happy to hear about\Ncommunity work with open data.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:34.17,0:08:37.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah, I thought I would just kind of give\Na quick introduction from the other side,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:37.91,0:08:41.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of movement from the community side.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:41.08,0:08:44.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, as I said, I work in my spare time
Dialogue: 0,0:08:44.24,0:08:46.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for an organization\Ncalled Code for Germany.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:47.11,0:08:49.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We've been running since about five years
Dialogue: 0,0:08:49.77,0:08:52.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where we have labs, \Nthat is groups of people
Dialogue: 0,0:08:52.44,0:08:57.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that meet once a week,\Nsome once a month in Germany
Dialogue: 0,0:08:57.85,0:09:00.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in local, what we call labs.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:00.15,0:09:03.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we try to build tools\Nthat somehow make it easier
Dialogue: 0,0:09:03.86,0:09:05.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for people to participate in politics,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:05.93,0:09:08.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to get an understanding \Nof the environment around them,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:08.33,0:09:11.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to collect data about air pollution.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:11.42,0:09:14.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And, of course, we'd like to use
Dialogue: 0,0:09:14.20,0:09:17.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,governmentally provided\Nopen data for that,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:17.05,0:09:20.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but we've also realized\Nthat there's difficulties with that,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:20.57,0:09:24.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that sometimes the data isn't there,\Nit's under a difficult license,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:24.87,0:09:29.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is kind of how we found our way \Nto Wikidata also, I think.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:29.68,0:09:32.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We also happened to meet in Berlin
Dialogue: 0,0:09:32.02,0:09:34.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the offices of Wikimedia Deutschland,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:34.38,0:09:38.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so this kind of brought us\Nvery close to Wikidata.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:38.98,0:09:40.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I think it's cool to see
Dialogue: 0,0:09:40.23,0:09:44.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we're kind of strengthening\Nthe relationship
Dialogue: 0,0:09:44.42,0:09:49.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,between the Wikidata community in Germany \Nand the Code for Germany community.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:49.74,0:09:52.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We also would like to work \Neven closer with the government,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:52.82,0:09:54.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but talking about bridging gaps.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:54.79,0:09:59.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, there's very basic problems \Nsuch as us meeting after we work
Dialogue: 0,0:09:59.88,0:10:03.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the people for the government \Nwanting to meet when they work.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:04.08,0:10:08.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I think when we think about \Nhow these communities can work together,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:08.02,0:10:11.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there's very mundane things,\Nsuch as working times,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:11.22,0:10:13.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we need to keep in mind.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:15.06,0:10:20.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So just a quick introduction \Nto what we do at Code for Germany
Dialogue: 0,0:10:20.22,0:10:22.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,especially with regards to Wikidata.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:22.92,0:10:26.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We've had a couple of hackathons now\Nwithin the last years
Dialogue: 0,0:10:26.21,0:10:28.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where people from the Wikidata community
Dialogue: 0,0:10:28.02,0:10:31.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the Code for Germany community
Dialogue: 0,0:10:31.48,0:10:33.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,kind of came together to meet
Dialogue: 0,0:10:33.98,0:10:38.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and just spend a weekend\Nto work on Wikidata.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:38.20,0:10:41.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we've done\Nall kinds of different things.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:42.02,0:10:45.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We've usually been very interested\Nin political data,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:45.04,0:10:47.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so we've been importing a lot of data
Dialogue: 0,0:10:47.37,0:10:50.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,regarding politicians \Nand regarding elections.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:50.57,0:10:54.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We've thought about how to model\Nelection data in Wikidata a lot
Dialogue: 0,0:10:54.26,0:10:58.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we've also had a lot of people\Nthat built games with Wikidata.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:59.40,0:11:01.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One of the nice examples for this
Dialogue: 0,0:11:01.34,0:11:04.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,would be the Wikidata card game, \Nwhere you can put in any Q number
Dialogue: 0,0:11:04.64,0:11:07.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you get a nice trading card game.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:07.62,0:11:08.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You might have seen that.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:08.65,0:11:11.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If not, I encourage you to look for that.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:11.46,0:11:16.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think that's a really cool way\Nto sell Wikidata to other people.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:19.11,0:11:21.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Selling-- this is also \Nsomething that we've realized
Dialogue: 0,0:11:21.84,0:11:23.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when we talk to data providers,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:23.46,0:11:26.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that often they're quite scared \Nto give data to you
Dialogue: 0,0:11:26.66,0:11:28.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with the traditional argument
Dialogue: 0,0:11:28.52,0:11:32.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of "Our data is so complicated, \Nyou won't understand it,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:32.53,0:11:36.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you'll build bad applications\Nthat will make us look bad."
Dialogue: 0,0:11:37.08,0:11:42.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And our strategy usually\Nis to just take the data anyway,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:42.42,0:11:46.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,build an application share it with them,\Nand then their response is usually,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:46.55,0:11:49.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Oh, this is pretty cool. \NCan we link to that from our website?"
Dialogue: 0,0:11:50.84,0:11:52.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then, at some point,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:52.11,0:11:54.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,maybe you can start having\Na discussion with them.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:55.88,0:11:58.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But, yeah, I think this is kind\Nof what we can do as a community.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:58.48,0:12:02.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We can build little small games\Nand tools to showcase.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:02.88,0:12:04.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Okay, there is Wikidata,\Nand it's pretty cool,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:04.75,0:12:07.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you have open data,\Nand we can build cool things with it,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:07.57,0:12:09.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but you'll need to give it to us,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:09.28,0:12:12.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you'll need to publish it \Nunder a license that we can work with.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:13.31,0:12:17.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And this is one of the things \Nthat we try to do at Code for Germany.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:18.80,0:12:20.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[inaudible], thanks.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:23.31,0:12:25.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(applause)
Dialogue: 0,0:12:27.26,0:12:28.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah, thank you.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:28.66,0:12:31.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Before we open \Nthe room for questions from you,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:31.55,0:12:37.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we would like to just open\Nor ask some questions to you.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:38.44,0:12:40.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think that Knut has really described
Dialogue: 0,0:12:40.76,0:12:43.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the challenges we face quite well.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:43.63,0:12:49.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But, still, I do think there's a lot\Nof opportunities in these data,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:49.16,0:12:54.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we just need to kind of harvest it\Nbetter than we do it right now.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:54.75,0:12:58.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so my questions--\Nand maybe it helps you a bit
Dialogue: 0,0:12:58.84,0:13:03.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to think about that-- \Nis how could we integrate
Dialogue: 0,0:13:03.17,0:13:07.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,more open government data \Ninto Wikidata in a more structured way.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:07.33,0:13:12.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just keeping in mind that the people \Nwho are kind of providing these data
Dialogue: 0,0:13:12.83,0:13:16.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are not the experts you may expect.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:16.82,0:13:18.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And at the same time,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:19.10,0:13:22.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there already is a WikiProject, \Nopen government data,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:22.80,0:13:27.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I'm not sure if you, Christina\Nhad opened it quite a while ago.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:27.44,0:13:31.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I wonder in which way we can
Dialogue: 0,0:13:31.06,0:13:37.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,kind of reanimate it \Nand make the best out of it
Dialogue: 0,0:13:37.37,0:13:41.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because we still have this place,\Nand we have people
Dialogue: 0,0:13:41.86,0:13:45.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who are engaged\Nin the municipalities, in governments,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:45.40,0:13:47.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to open up data.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:47.60,0:13:50.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And maybe it's an opportunity
Dialogue: 0,0:13:50.53,0:13:55.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to just match these different
Dialogue: 0,0:13:55.06,0:13:57.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,languages and expectations.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:57.82,0:14:01.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, yeah, I'm open\Nfor any ideas to do that,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:01.46,0:14:04.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I'm happy to engage\Na bit in that as well.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:04.64,0:14:06.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, questions?
Dialogue: 0,0:14:10.68,0:14:12.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(person 1) Hi, thank you, guys.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:12.51,0:14:14.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Maybe an idea is one
Dialogue: 0,0:14:14.89,0:14:17.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we could be taking\Nfrom the Wikipedia beginnings,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:17.55,0:14:19.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where I think it was Matthias Schindler,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:19.62,0:14:22.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who started\Nwith his Content Liberation Army.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:22.54,0:14:25.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the idea that,\Nyou know, you have to really go in,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:25.91,0:14:28.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the data is there.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:28.95,0:14:31.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But for example, \NI had a project with a student
Dialogue: 0,0:14:31.61,0:14:32.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where we were looking
Dialogue: 0,0:14:32.69,0:14:35.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at where the trees\Nare geolocated in Berlin,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:35.33,0:14:39.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and this is sometimes on paper,\Nit's sometimes on a stupid database.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:39.31,0:14:41.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We were accused of being terrorists
Dialogue: 0,0:14:41.75,0:14:44.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by the people who didn't want\Nto give us the data.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:44.46,0:14:48.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We had to get really, really \Npicky about this and point to the laws
Dialogue: 0,0:14:48.80,0:14:52.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,saying, "This is open data, \Nand you have to give it to us."
Dialogue: 0,0:14:52.04,0:14:55.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but we have to sort of go in friendly,\Nas you were saying
Dialogue: 0,0:14:55.84,0:14:58.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and try and explain to them\Nwhat they will have from it.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:58.55,0:15:01.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Many of them don't see\Nthat they have a use of it
Dialogue: 0,0:15:01.17,0:15:03.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because it's more work for them\Nhaving to deal with us.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:03.82,0:15:07.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think that's one\Nof the main kind of fears
Dialogue: 0,0:15:07.51,0:15:12.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is there are coming people\Nwho are just putting more work onto us.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:12.64,0:15:17.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And at the same time,\Nthere's so little understanding
Dialogue: 0,0:15:17.08,0:15:20.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that this is just part\Nof what they are doing already.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:20.91,0:15:25.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that they can really also
Dialogue: 0,0:15:25.26,0:15:28.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,learn and get a lot of input
Dialogue: 0,0:15:28.04,0:15:30.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from the people \Nwho are asking about that data.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:30.66,0:15:32.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But this is really culture change,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:32.55,0:15:35.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a cultural change \Nespecially here in Germany.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:35.57,0:15:38.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we are working on it.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:38.84,0:15:43.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We are working hard,\Nbut it's really kind of a tough thing.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:43.33,0:15:44.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Maybe I can add? \N- Yes.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:44.82,0:15:46.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think what's also \Nreally interesting to see
Dialogue: 0,0:15:46.64,0:15:47.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from the community's perspective
Dialogue: 0,0:15:47.96,0:15:49.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is that when we talk to different cities,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:49.70,0:15:52.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it so depends on who happens\Nto work in the cities.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:52.06,0:15:54.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Like we have this very small city of Moers
Dialogue: 0,0:15:54.44,0:15:55.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that is very unknown,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:55.91,0:15:58.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but if you talk to people\Nin the open data community,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:58.41,0:15:59.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,everyone will know it
Dialogue: 0,0:15:59.87,0:16:03.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because they happen to pay someone\Nto do work on open data.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:05.08,0:16:08.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And when I talk to people\Nfrom the government in Berlin,
Dialogue: 0,0:16:08.15,0:16:12.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they tell me, "Okay, I now know\NI have to publish open data,
Dialogue: 0,0:16:12.44,0:16:17.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I don't know how, for whom, or why.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:18.56,0:16:20.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I think this is actually
Dialogue: 0,0:16:24.45,0:16:27.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a chance for the smaller cities\Nto kind of champion this idea
Dialogue: 0,0:16:27.75,0:16:29.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because it's so much easier for them
Dialogue: 0,0:16:29.93,0:16:33.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to kind of get a movement \Nand to liberate some data
Dialogue: 0,0:16:33.17,0:16:36.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where if we talk in Berlin,\Nwe always need to talk to 12 districts,
Dialogue: 0,0:16:36.55,0:16:39.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they'll never align \Non what data they want to publish.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:47.00,0:16:48.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(person 2) And we have a remote comment
Dialogue: 0,0:16:48.62,0:16:50.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from Beat Estermann
Dialogue: 0,0:16:50.15,0:16:54.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who wants to point out\Nhe has some links in Etherpad
Dialogue: 0,0:16:54.12,0:16:57.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about "Interest in open government data \Nhelps Swiss authorities
Dialogue: 0,0:16:57.62,0:17:00.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,prioritize base registers\Nand controlled vocabularies."
Dialogue: 0,0:17:00.95,0:17:02.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I'm told he just came in
Dialogue: 0,0:17:02.95,0:17:05.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,while I'm reading his Etherpad entry.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:05.89,0:17:09.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So if you could just take the mic from me.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:11.70,0:17:13.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(person 2) Go on.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:13.47,0:17:15.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Beat) Okay, thank you.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:15.51,0:17:17.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I missed the first introduction.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:19.15,0:17:20.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What did you start on?
Dialogue: 0,0:17:20.46,0:17:23.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- (person 2) I was just reading--\N- (Beat) Oh, you were reading. Okay.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:23.22,0:17:26.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we're currently running--
Dialogue: 0,0:17:26.15,0:17:28.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In Switzerland, we're running a survey
Dialogue: 0,0:17:30.64,0:17:35.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to kind of prioritize data\Nfrom within the government.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:35.64,0:17:39.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There are like base registers\Nor controlled vocabularies.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:39.71,0:17:42.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because we think \Nthat they would be crucial
Dialogue: 0,0:17:42.54,0:17:46.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to actually promote and boost \Nthe publication of linked open data
Dialogue: 0,0:17:46.48,0:17:48.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,across the public authorities,
Dialogue: 0,0:17:48.28,0:17:51.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so we're running a server \Nto prioritize them.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:51.61,0:17:56.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And for some authorities \Nto know which ones to publish now
Dialogue: 0,0:17:56.73,0:17:58.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and for others--
Dialogue: 0,0:17:59.00,0:18:01.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for the community to know \Nwhere to put pressure on
Dialogue: 0,0:18:01.86,0:18:03.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and how to actually,
Dialogue: 0,0:18:04.55,0:18:07.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yeah, argue why they should publish it.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:07.22,0:18:09.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We're also collecting use cases.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:09.62,0:18:13.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I posted the link to the Etherpad.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:13.48,0:18:17.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's in German and French only,\Nthe questionnaires.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:17.06,0:18:20.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm sorry we're still not like up
Dialogue: 0,0:18:20.13,0:18:23.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,five language count here,\Nbut you said four languages-
Dialogue: 0,0:18:24.08,0:18:25.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(person 3) Just switch to English.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:25.55,0:18:28.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Beat) Yeah, we could switch\Nto English, right.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:29.71,0:18:31.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah, so that's one point.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:31.80,0:18:34.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The other point I think is we could...
Dialogue: 0,0:18:35.51,0:18:37.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I'll put a little bit more love
Dialogue: 0,0:18:37.86,0:18:41.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,into kind of documenting\Nthe whole Wiki project,
Dialogue: 0,0:18:42.81,0:18:44.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,open common data,
Dialogue: 0,0:18:44.08,0:18:47.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that's something\Nwe're not really doing
Dialogue: 0,0:18:47.13,0:18:50.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you compare it \Nto what is going on in GLAM.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:53.31,0:18:55.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think that is definitely something
Dialogue: 0,0:18:55.82,0:18:59.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which I probably will try to figure out
Dialogue: 0,0:18:59.68,0:19:03.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,after my vacation time,
Dialogue: 0,0:19:03.66,0:19:07.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is starting on Monday.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:08.11,0:19:11.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is this WikiProject,
Dialogue: 0,0:19:11.15,0:19:15.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we need to figure out\Nwho is interested in it
Dialogue: 0,0:19:15.43,0:19:17.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what can we do there,
Dialogue: 0,0:19:17.75,0:19:20.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and how can we motivate people
Dialogue: 0,0:19:20.66,0:19:25.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from kind of [out] the Wikidata community
Dialogue: 0,0:19:25.31,0:19:28.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to add this important information to that.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:28.97,0:19:32.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I do think there is a huge opportunity
Dialogue: 0,0:19:32.47,0:19:36.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to figure out how we can include
Dialogue: 0,0:19:36.42,0:19:42.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,more of this really, really valuable \Nand reliable data into Wikidata.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:42.71,0:19:46.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But overall, there's a lot\Nof challenges as well,
Dialogue: 0,0:19:46.33,0:19:52.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and still it's kind of\Na different crowd of people,
Dialogue: 0,0:19:52.06,0:19:55.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we need to figure out\Nhow to bring them together.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:58.07,0:19:59.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Any idea is welcome.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:59.60,0:20:01.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Beat) Yeah, there is another point
Dialogue: 0,0:20:01.08,0:20:02.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which we're currently not focusing on
Dialogue: 0,0:20:02.80,0:20:05.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with this base register\Nand vocabulary thing.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:05.76,0:20:08.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But what I have had as a request
Dialogue: 0,0:20:08.93,0:20:11.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is to be able \Nto actually store tabular data
Dialogue: 0,0:20:11.51,0:20:14.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and to be able to pull it.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:14.91,0:20:16.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because it does not make sense
Dialogue: 0,0:20:16.93,0:20:21.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to put like 200 years \Nof population statistics from Zurich
Dialogue: 0,0:20:21.95,0:20:25.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,into that Wikidata item for Zurich.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:27.88,0:20:33.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Maybe I just pick it up \Nand just an anecdote from my day work.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:33.77,0:20:38.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I started to introduce Wikidata\Nto my colleagues.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:38.40,0:20:41.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We are a small team doing open data,
Dialogue: 0,0:20:41.08,0:20:47.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it was fine, \Nand they were really, really interested,
Dialogue: 0,0:20:47.06,0:20:53.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but in the end we started \Nto add some of the population dates,
Dialogue: 0,0:20:53.11,0:20:56.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then, you know, there isn't any order.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:56.46,0:21:01.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it's so hard to figure out \Nif you find a population date
Dialogue: 0,0:21:01.60,0:21:06.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for year Y or X or something,\Nand if it is still missing.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:06.82,0:21:11.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, of course,\Nthere are still a lot of things
Dialogue: 0,0:21:11.02,0:21:13.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to improve in Wikidata as well,
Dialogue: 0,0:21:13.06,0:21:17.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and tabular data could be one of it also.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:18.11,0:21:20.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(person 4) [inaudible] Is it working?
Dialogue: 0,0:21:20.84,0:21:23.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have a comment on the tabular data.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:23.47,0:21:26.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I remember we had also discussions
Dialogue: 0,0:21:26.04,0:21:29.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with a canton and the city\Nof Zurich about this,
Dialogue: 0,0:21:29.31,0:21:33.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that it might make sense to start
Dialogue: 0,0:21:33.05,0:21:37.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,discussions on whether\Nwe should maybe consider
Dialogue: 0,0:21:37.15,0:21:42.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,setting up a Wikibase\Nfor open governmental data
Dialogue: 0,0:21:42.22,0:21:46.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and having such kind of datasets
Dialogue: 0,0:21:46.17,0:21:51.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then link them to Wikidata\Nor link them from Wikidata to them,
Dialogue: 0,0:21:51.08,0:21:55.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because mostly \Nthe linked open data technology
Dialogue: 0,0:21:55.42,0:21:57.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is actually enabling that
Dialogue: 0,0:21:57.05,0:22:00.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and is one of the key advantages \Nof this technology.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:00.19,0:22:04.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is, of course, something \Nthat doesn't relate only to OGD data,
Dialogue: 0,0:22:04.71,0:22:09.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's a global divide \Nin the whole Wikidata community.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:09.08,0:22:14.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because the larger we make\Nthe central endpoint or the graph
Dialogue: 0,0:22:15.28,0:22:19.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the more difficult it is to handle it--\NI think we all agree on that.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:19.04,0:22:24.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I think there should be\Na deeper conversation and discussion
Dialogue: 0,0:22:24.22,0:22:27.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on whether we should\Nstart building this network.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:27.55,0:22:30.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, actually, there is already\Na network of Wikibases.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:30.44,0:22:35.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We also work in the university\Nwith publications and research data
Dialogue: 0,0:22:35.55,0:22:38.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with our own Wikibase.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:39.17,0:22:43.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah, and then another comment \Nabout the Wiki projects.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:43.15,0:22:48.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we continued working\Nand documenting the materials
Dialogue: 0,0:22:48.40,0:22:49.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the events,
Dialogue: 0,0:22:49.48,0:22:52.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so we actually now have\Ntwo upcoming events in November.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:52.76,0:22:56.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have a full weekend \Ntechnical training on Wikidata
Dialogue: 0,0:22:56.71,0:22:59.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in collaboration \Nwith the open data Zurich people
Dialogue: 0,0:22:59.06,0:23:00.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the canton of Zurich,
Dialogue: 0,0:23:00.46,0:23:04.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and also Wikimedia Switzerland,\Nand we have a hackathon.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:04.02,0:23:07.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I totally agree that it would be great
Dialogue: 0,0:23:07.00,0:23:09.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to start having conversations\Nwith all the participants
Dialogue: 0,0:23:09.67,0:23:12.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that have been listed already\Nin the project,
Dialogue: 0,0:23:12.06,0:23:13.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and start more discussions,
Dialogue: 0,0:23:13.66,0:23:17.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,especially with all the countries\Nthat have many good initiatives,
Dialogue: 0,0:23:17.66,0:23:20.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like Germany, like what you described
Dialogue: 0,0:23:20.21,0:23:22.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and start documenting
Dialogue: 0,0:23:22.44,0:23:25.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what are the specific needs\Nof these institutions,
Dialogue: 0,0:23:25.17,0:23:26.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what are the problems,
Dialogue: 0,0:23:26.31,0:23:29.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and what specific tools\Nwe need to develop, or procedures,
Dialogue: 0,0:23:29.91,0:23:33.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we can help them import\Nor link data in Wikidata.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:36.46,0:23:39.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think we're out of time.\NOne last question.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:41.28,0:23:44.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(person 5) So a proposal \Nto use Wikibase for that?
Dialogue: 0,0:23:44.31,0:23:46.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm not sure whether\Nthat actually would solve
Dialogue: 0,0:23:46.37,0:23:49.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this tabular data problem.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:49.15,0:23:53.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And when thinking of statistical data,\Nlike population data,
Dialogue: 0,0:23:53.40,0:23:56.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that is not data\Nthat we want to really edit,
Dialogue: 0,0:23:56.67,0:23:58.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's data we just want to consume.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:59.84,0:24:02.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it means we have to ask ourselves
Dialogue: 0,0:24:02.95,0:24:06.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whether we want to build in\Nthe capability to actually pull data
Dialogue: 0,0:24:06.86,0:24:10.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,directly from external third-party\NSPARQL endpoints,
Dialogue: 0,0:24:10.15,0:24:14.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and not just from\Nwithin this Wikibase ecosystem
Dialogue: 0,0:24:14.64,0:24:16.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we're planning to build up as well.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:16.72,0:24:19.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(person 4) So I agree\Nthat it doesn't solve the tabular data,
Dialogue: 0,0:24:19.44,0:24:20.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but what I was trying to say
Dialogue: 0,0:24:20.88,0:24:23.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is that the information\Nthat is more specific,
Dialogue: 0,0:24:23.51,0:24:26.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it might be the case that we want \Nto export it to something else
Dialogue: 0,0:24:26.62,0:24:32.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I see Wikibase also\Nas a very good data modeling example.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:32.97,0:24:37.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So not only because you want \Nto have humans editing,
Dialogue: 0,0:24:37.77,0:24:42.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but also because the whole data modeling \Nhappening in Wikidata
Dialogue: 0,0:24:42.04,0:24:44.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with all the qualifiers and references
Dialogue: 0,0:24:44.13,0:24:47.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,adds a lot to all the datasets.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:47.42,0:24:50.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So if we would do it from scratch in RDF
Dialogue: 0,0:24:51.42,0:24:53.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we would be missing these features
Dialogue: 0,0:24:53.42,0:24:56.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that Wikidata has, \Nand I see it has an advantage.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:56.48,0:24:59.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So that was a reason why I mentioned
Dialogue: 0,0:24:59.30,0:25:01.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that it would be very helpful\Nto maybe think of
Dialogue: 0,0:25:01.40,0:25:03.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for the Wikibases around the OGD data.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:04.97,0:25:08.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(moderator) So, I'm sorry,\Nbut I think we just ran out of time,
Dialogue: 0,0:25:08.37,0:25:11.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I encourage you\Nto keep talking with our speakers,
Dialogue: 0,0:25:11.15,0:25:13.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[inaudible] during all the conference
Dialogue: 0,0:25:13.02,0:25:15.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and please, a round of applause for them.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:15.37,0:25:17.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(applause)
Dialogue: 0,0:25:19.63,0:25:20.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you.