[Script Info] Title: [Events] Format: Layer, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text Dialogue: 0,0:00:01.28,0:00:07.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,okay so I just want to start off with\Nasking if you could tell me your name Dialogue: 0,0:00:07.74,0:00:12.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and your position sure so my name is\NTasha and I'm the director of\Ninformation technology for the College Dialogue: 0,0:00:15.03,0:00:23.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of Engineering okay where did your\Ninvolvement in OSU begin well Dialogue: 0,0:00:23.55,0:00:27.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,my involvement in OSU began as a\Nundergrad student I'm originally from Dialogue: 0,0:00:27.51,0:00:32.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Fairbanks Alaska and I came to Oregon\NState on what was at the time called Dialogue: 0,0:00:32.22,0:00:37.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,national student exchange which was a\Nprogram that allowed me I was a I was\Nenrolled at the University of Alaska Dialogue: 0,0:00:38.19,0:00:41.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Fairbanks\NI came to Oregon State as an exchange Dialogue: 0,0:00:41.10,0:00:45.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,student and it was kind of a cool\Nprogram where I came here but I paid my Dialogue: 0,0:00:45.15,0:00:49.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,home University in-state tuition even\Nthough I was basically an out-of-state Dialogue: 0,0:00:49.47,0:00:53.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,student here and so I did that for a\Nyear I really liked OSU I liked Dialogue: 0,0:00:53.58,0:00:57.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Corvallis and I ended up I was supposed\Nto go back to Alaska and finished off my Dialogue: 0,0:00:57.84,0:01:01.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,education in Alaska but I ended up\Ntransferring to Oregon State the next Dialogue: 0,0:01:01.77,0:01:05.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,year and then was a full time\Nout-of-state student here in Corvallis Dialogue: 0,0:01:05.37,0:01:11.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I finished my degree at OSU I was\Nhired by the University I worked here Dialogue: 0,0:01:11.67,0:01:15.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for a couple years and I took a job with\NApple back in Alaska I was their system Dialogue: 0,0:01:15.42,0:01:22.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,engineer for k-12 education in Alaska\Nand I missed Corvallis and missed OSU a Dialogue: 0,0:01:22.17,0:01:26.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,lot Apple had me traveling four days a\Nweek and I really didn't like that and Dialogue: 0,0:01:26.16,0:01:30.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,OSU asked me if I'd come back I did and\NI've just ever since I've been Dialogue: 0,0:01:30.72,0:01:37.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,consistently kind of working at the\Nliner yeah um just could you tell me a Dialogue: 0,0:01:37.55,0:01:43.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,little bit about your ideology\Nsurrounding data privacy in society sure Dialogue: 0,0:01:43.18,0:01:49.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's a it's a very interesting topic\Nbecause I think we I think would make a Dialogue: 0,0:01:49.79,0:01:53.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,lot of assumptions that vendors who we\Ngive our data to we're going to do a Dialogue: 0,0:01:53.84,0:01:58.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,good job of keeping it secure and if you\Nlook at the number of breaches and Dialogue: 0,0:01:58.19,0:02:06.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,compromises by companies you know\Nwhether its target or or REI or Facebook Dialogue: 0,0:02:06.62,0:02:11.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,her name is on or whomever you know it\Nseems like we see often enough things in Dialogue: 0,0:02:11.93,0:02:16.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the news about breaches where people's\Nidentity their passwords their credit\Ncard numbers whatever have been Dialogue: 0,0:02:18.05,0:02:22.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,compromised you know personally I see\Nthat maybe you see it as well when we\Nget the statements about are the the Dialogue: 0,0:02:24.89,0:02:28.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,things about our car credit card numbers\Nhave been compromised and they send us a Dialogue: 0,0:02:28.97,0:02:32.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,new credit card I mean that's because of\Na data breach data privacy breach Dialogue: 0,0:02:32.15,0:02:35.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,somewhere along the chain so so I think\Nwe make a lot of assumptions that our Dialogue: 0,0:02:35.78,0:02:39.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,data in in with companies of the work\Nwith is secure when in fact if you look\Nat the number of breaches that's not Dialogue: 0,0:02:41.27,0:02:44.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,always the case basically yeah\Nyeah and that's you know some of that's Dialogue: 0,0:02:44.78,0:02:48.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,anecdotal just on what we hear but when\Nyou hear these breaches involving Dialogue: 0,0:02:48.20,0:02:53.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,millions of people you know chances are\Nwe're gonna be part of that as well so Dialogue: 0,0:02:53.74,0:02:58.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know that said there are many\Ndifferent services in the cloud that do Dialogue: 0,0:02:58.55,0:03:03.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a lot of things to enhance our education\Nour research our ability to conduct Dialogue: 0,0:03:03.77,0:03:09.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,business and so we kind of have to rely\Non that these days as a service provider Dialogue: 0,0:03:09.08,0:03:15.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on campus we take data security very\Nvery seriously we do an awful lot to\Nprotect the identity of our students Dialogue: 0,0:03:17.33,0:03:21.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,staff and faculty\Nand you know it's it's it's a Dialogue: 0,0:03:21.27,0:03:26.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,double-edged sword because some of the\Nthings that we do make people's lives\Nmore difficult for example some of the Dialogue: 0,0:03:29.04,0:03:33.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,resources that you have to use a VPN to\Nconnect to there are what there are Dialogue: 0,0:03:33.27,0:03:37.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,things that we could do that would not\Nrequire a VPN I mean I could make it so Dialogue: 0,0:03:37.62,0:03:43.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you could map a network drive off campus\Nwithout requiring a VPN we know there Dialogue: 0,0:03:43.38,0:03:45.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are vulnerabilities in that process\Nthough Dialogue: 0,0:03:45.24,0:03:51.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and so by requiring a VPN we add another\Nlayer of security to that that process Dialogue: 0,0:03:51.27,0:03:55.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we know is prone to be compromised\Nthere are things that we do with Dialogue: 0,0:03:55.83,0:03:59.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,two-factor authentication are you\Nfamiliar with two-factor authentication Dialogue: 0,0:03:59.55,0:04:04.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with duo yeah so you know this spring\Nduo will be required for all staff and Dialogue: 0,0:04:04.86,0:04:08.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,faculty and some point in the future\Nwill be required for students that's a\Nchoice that we've made to try to help to Dialogue: 0,0:04:10.89,0:04:16.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,perfect protect the identity and the\Nsecurity of of our students and staff Dialogue: 0,0:04:16.53,0:04:21.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and faculty on campus related to that\Nand this is kind of like a duo things Dialogue: 0,0:04:21.09,0:04:24.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just on a side note sure my girlfriend\Nnotes actually visiting her over the Dialogue: 0,0:04:24.99,0:04:30.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,weekend and she has duo because she's a\Nemployee of the at her school in Utah\NState and I actually see like a great Dialogue: 0,0:04:35.00,0:04:40.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,problem with it\Njust in the you know the monotony of Dialogue: 0,0:04:40.14,0:04:44.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,logging into like canvas or something\Nneeded to do time and I could see that Dialogue: 0,0:04:44.99,0:04:50.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,barrier there being negative for\Nstudents and definitely like hindering Dialogue: 0,0:04:50.04,0:04:53.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,their you know interaction with the site\Nitself\Ncuz I see her you know I have to go on Dialogue: 0,0:04:56.31,0:05:02.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,your phone logging just to log to the\Nweb site and so I kind of saw that as Dialogue: 0,0:05:02.19,0:05:06.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know personally ease-of-use is\Ndefinitely amazing for me because I'm Dialogue: 0,0:05:06.15,0:05:12.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,able to kind of quickly access\Ninformation and you know I'm more Dialogue: 0,0:05:12.12,0:05:16.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,inclined to access it when it's easier\Nto do yeah so knowing my assignments and Dialogue: 0,0:05:16.98,0:05:22.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,interacting with like school resources\Nis a lot easier for me because you know Dialogue: 0,0:05:22.44,0:05:25.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there's a barrier it's not like I'm\Nwalking to a class Dialogue: 0,0:05:25.41,0:05:31.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yeah adding a barrier to that kind of\Nlike increases the difficulty yeah\Ntotally hit it for you do oh and abled Dialogue: 0,0:05:32.94,0:05:37.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on campus not right now okay so one\Nthing you would find here on campus is Dialogue: 0,0:05:37.29,0:05:41.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we do not require it for campus\Nmm-hmm and that was that's another one Dialogue: 0,0:05:41.31,0:05:46.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of those kind of interesting use cases\Nbecause some of the feedback we got from Dialogue: 0,0:05:46.14,0:05:50.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,faculty members had to do with not\Nallowing students to take their phones Dialogue: 0,0:05:50.22,0:05:53.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,into class then if you have an\Nassignment that requires getting on\Ncanvas or a quiz or an exam then that Dialogue: 0,0:05:55.89,0:06:01.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,becomes a problem if you are requiring\Npeople to use that device so at least on Dialogue: 0,0:06:01.02,0:06:05.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,our campus and it's different everywhere\Nbut we're first degree it's the security Dialogue: 0,0:06:05.07,0:06:09.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,issue yeah yeah so for students who are\Ndo have enabled canvas is not protected Dialogue: 0,0:06:09.78,0:06:19.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,mm-hmm\Nthat's a that's a trade-off yeah okay so Dialogue: 0,0:06:19.76,0:06:29.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on a daily basis what does your work can\Nconsist of all sorts of things I do in Dialogue: 0,0:06:29.91,0:06:32.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,our College of Engineering we have\Nroughly twelve thousand users we're Dialogue: 0,0:06:32.91,0:06:37.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about a third at the University I manage\Na staff of 13 full-time professionals\Nand around 60 student workers we're Dialogue: 0,0:06:41.82,0:06:45.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,responsible for the day-to-day IT\Ncomputing needs for all those Dialogue: 0,0:06:45.27,0:06:50.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,individuals and so it takes an entire\Nteam effort to take care of that Dialogue: 0,0:06:50.52,0:06:55.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so I'm responding to user requests I you\Nknow this morning for example I just Dialogue: 0,0:06:55.68,0:07:01.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,before you came in I was listening to a\Npanel discussion of new hire on campus Dialogue: 0,0:07:01.89,0:07:04.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we're interviewing for the chief\Ninformation security officer for the Dialogue: 0,0:07:04.98,0:07:09.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,university so I was kind of paying\Nattention to that I was talking to a\Nfaculty member who wants to buy into one Dialogue: 0,0:07:10.80,0:07:14.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of our computing clusters they're part\Nof college of engineering in Bend and Dialogue: 0,0:07:14.82,0:07:19.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we're talking with them about buying\Nsome new nodes for our cluster so really Dialogue: 0,0:07:19.59,0:07:23.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,kind of helping faculty members think\Nabout what kind of computing needs they Dialogue: 0,0:07:23.16,0:07:27.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,need to take care of their research is a\Nbig part of a bigger part of what I do I Dialogue: 0,0:07:27.36,0:07:30.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,interact a lot with different vendors\Nand different partners that we have this\Nmorning Dialogue: 0,0:07:31.87,0:07:36.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and another vendor that was here at nine\No'clock were down in the first floor Dialogue: 0,0:07:36.37,0:07:40.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Kelly Engineering Center we're looking\Nto a remodel of of one of our conference Dialogue: 0,0:07:40.15,0:07:43.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,rooms and so I had a vendor that was in\Nwe were talking about ideas and kind of Dialogue: 0,0:07:43.84,0:07:46.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,use cases and how people want to use the\Nfacility and then they're gonna come Dialogue: 0,0:07:46.87,0:07:52.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,back to us with a proposal on how we\Nmight do that so I I do an awful lot to Dialogue: 0,0:07:52.75,0:07:56.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,represent the college of engineering or\Nstudents staff and faculty within with Dialogue: 0,0:07:56.56,0:08:02.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,different IT groups on campus with with\Npartners with vendors with donors you Dialogue: 0,0:08:02.44,0:08:06.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,know I tend to be the external face for\Nour group for our college when it comes Dialogue: 0,0:08:06.67,0:08:19.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to IT matters how does in your eyes have\Nthis cloud technology evolved education Dialogue: 0,0:08:21.96,0:08:27.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's it's had a huge impact on the way\Nthat we're able to provide services to Dialogue: 0,0:08:27.94,0:08:33.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,students you know I'll give you a couple\Nof examples of that and it's it's not Dialogue: 0,0:08:33.28,0:08:38.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just education it's kind of more than\Nthat we used to be a blackboard school Dialogue: 0,0:08:38.17,0:08:44.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,before canvas and blackboard was hosted\Non campus with servers on campus and we Dialogue: 0,0:08:44.83,0:08:48.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,would see often that those services are\Nbeing overloaded particularly at the Dialogue: 0,0:08:48.76,0:08:53.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,beginning of the quarter and then during\Ndead in finals week when we moved to Dialogue: 0,0:08:53.65,0:08:59.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,canvas we moved to a cloud provider and\Nwhat's great about canvas is that Dialogue: 0,0:08:59.38,0:09:02.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they're able to scale the computing\Nresources that they have based on our Dialogue: 0,0:09:02.71,0:09:07.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,needs so we don't have to provide\Nservers on campus to provide the Dialogue: 0,0:09:07.24,0:09:13.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,functionality of canvas it's all cloud\Nhosted they you know they they manage Dialogue: 0,0:09:13.48,0:09:17.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that they're the professionals at it and\NI think that's kind of been that's been\None of the biggest things is that we pay Dialogue: 0,0:09:21.88,0:09:26.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,cloud providers to do a really good job\Nat what they do we're not able to do Dialogue: 0,0:09:26.35,0:09:29.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that on campus and we shouldn't we\Nshould not kid ourselves and think that Dialogue: 0,0:09:29.26,0:09:36.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we can so if you look at services like\Nbox like WebEx like Google Dialogue: 0,0:09:36.19,0:09:41.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was like those are those are big\Ncompanies they specialize in doing that\Nwe should not even begin to kid Dialogue: 0,0:09:43.60,0:09:47.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ourselves to think that we can compete\Nwith them there are other areas where we Dialogue: 0,0:09:47.23,0:09:52.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can and we do a better job of things\Nthat are hosted on campus but for those Dialogue: 0,0:09:52.69,0:09:56.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,services that like that's their job\Nthat's how they make their money if Dialogue: 0,0:09:56.98,0:10:00.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they're offline that's really bad for\Nthere just aren't holders in their Dialogue: 0,0:10:00.22,0:10:02.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,business\Nwe should not kid ourselves to think Dialogue: 0,0:10:02.98,0:10:07.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we can do a better job than they\Ncan where we should really be very Dialogue: 0,0:10:07.63,0:10:11.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,careful those around the data security\Npiece and making sure that they are Dialogue: 0,0:10:11.35,0:10:15.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,properly vetted that we understand their\Npractices around data security that we Dialogue: 0,0:10:15.49,0:10:19.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,understand that they understand FERPA\Nand some of the other other federal Dialogue: 0,0:10:19.60,0:10:24.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,regulations and you have to deal with\Nbecause you know we're still vulnerable Dialogue: 0,0:10:24.09,0:10:29.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I the services that they provide in\Nthe cloud are far better than anything Dialogue: 0,0:10:29.98,0:10:34.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we could do on campus and you know we\Nhope that by exposing students to those Dialogue: 0,0:10:34.66,0:10:38.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and faculty members and building them\Ninto curriculum that that you as a Dialogue: 0,0:10:38.71,0:10:42.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,student are able to do great things and\Nthat you're able to collaborate with Dialogue: 0,0:10:42.07,0:10:46.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,others and you're able to innovate that\Nyou're able to study for your exam to\Nlearn new topics through those cloud Dialogue: 0,0:10:48.25,0:10:56.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,providers their big party education yeah\Nyeah that's awesome especially with Dialogue: 0,0:10:56.29,0:11:03.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,vetting services around I guess yeah\Nwhen did oh s you start to build the Dialogue: 0,0:11:03.25,0:11:12.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,largely did digital infrastructure we've\Nhad bits and pieces of that for a long Dialogue: 0,0:11:12.49,0:11:22.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,time you know back in the back in the\Nearly 90s we did class registration Dialogue: 0,0:11:22.05,0:11:26.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,electronically a very different look\Nvery different than it does now but you Dialogue: 0,0:11:26.98,0:11:32.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,know I would say early 90s and moving\Nforward progressively data networking on Dialogue: 0,0:11:32.02,0:11:36.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,campus has been a real big issue\Nin bringing all of our buildings up to Dialogue: 0,0:11:36.10,0:11:41.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,appropriate specifications for data\Ncapacities and speeds and wireless and Dialogue: 0,0:11:41.00,0:11:45.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know the whole pushed towards\Nwireless access points and mobile Dialogue: 0,0:11:45.20,0:11:50.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,devices that really spurred us to do a\Nlot for providing good wireless service Dialogue: 0,0:11:50.45,0:11:54.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in and you know now we have we were\Nrated this past fall is the number one Dialogue: 0,0:11:54.74,0:12:00.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,fastest Wi-Fi in the country yeah for\Nany public university or any public or Dialogue: 0,0:12:00.08,0:12:04.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,private university that's a pretty big\Ndeal and that is a that's the that's the\Nresult of a progression of us taking Dialogue: 0,0:12:06.89,0:12:13.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this very seriously and adding more and\Nmore into our portfolio with with in so Dialogue: 0,0:12:13.13,0:12:17.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know when I think of digital that\Nthat's a pretty wide wide spectrum but Dialogue: 0,0:12:17.36,0:12:22.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yeah if you look at any one piece of\Nthat it takes an entire team to build Dialogue: 0,0:12:22.58,0:12:26.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that and so it's on top of itself yeah\Nexactly so you know for example if you Dialogue: 0,0:12:26.75,0:12:30.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,look at just Wireless as a piece of that\Nthere's a wireless access point outside Dialogue: 0,0:12:30.56,0:12:35.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,my office the infrastructure and the\Ndifferent groups on campus that are Dialogue: 0,0:12:35.75,0:12:39.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,required to come together for that is\Npretty extreme because there's the Dialogue: 0,0:12:39.23,0:12:42.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,access point out there it runs through a\Nnetwork it plugs into a switch it then Dialogue: 0,0:12:42.77,0:12:45.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,runs through some fiber it plugs into a\Nrouter it runs through some more fiber Dialogue: 0,0:12:45.77,0:12:49.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it goes through our controller through a\Nfirewall and then it goes through some Dialogue: 0,0:12:49.34,0:12:52.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,more fiber and it goes out to a router\Nwhich then connects us to the Internet Dialogue: 0,0:12:52.88,0:12:57.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know that's a that involves multiple\Ngroups on campus the people that that Dialogue: 0,0:12:57.02,0:13:01.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,build the fibre that specify where the X\Npoint access point needs to be that run Dialogue: 0,0:13:01.28,0:13:04.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the routers that run the firewalls that\Nrun all the different configuration Dialogue: 0,0:13:04.16,0:13:08.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,things that's that's that's a number of\Ndifferent people from a number of Dialogue: 0,0:13:08.15,0:13:13.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,different groups and over time as as the\Nkind of the digital sense of the Dialogue: 0,0:13:13.64,0:13:17.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,university has increased we've had to\Nstep up in each of those areas as well Dialogue: 0,0:13:17.35,0:13:21.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and now we're at a point where we're\Nit's pretty cool because we we have a Dialogue: 0,0:13:21.41,0:13:25.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,good we have really good people that the\Neach of those areas that were able to Dialogue: 0,0:13:25.32,0:13:33.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,work together and then more on the you\Nknow the third party side with Amazon Dialogue: 0,0:13:33.12,0:13:40.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,however Amazon Web Services integrated\Nwith OSU sure yeah so about a year ago Dialogue: 0,0:13:40.11,0:13:44.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we signed what's called an enterprise\Nagreement with Amazon which means that Dialogue: 0,0:13:44.25,0:13:47.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we're able to officially do business\Nwith them we have a contract in place Dialogue: 0,0:13:47.01,0:13:53.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that allows us to do this that protects\Nboth groups right now most of our spend Dialogue: 0,0:13:53.88,0:13:58.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on Amazon is on the research side of the\Nhouse so research computing so you're a Dialogue: 0,0:13:58.47,0:14:02.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,faculty member or a grad student you\Nhave a need for computing resources and Dialogue: 0,0:14:02.60,0:14:06.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you make the decision that you want to\Nspend that up in Amazon instead of Dialogue: 0,0:14:06.51,0:14:11.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,buying hardware that we would post here\Non campus and so most of our spend right Dialogue: 0,0:14:11.13,0:14:14.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,now is on the research side of the house\Nwe do have a couple of things so there Dialogue: 0,0:14:14.52,0:14:19.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are more infrastructures so for example\Nthere's a service that we run called Dialogue: 0,0:14:19.14,0:14:23.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,single sign-on and that's the kind of\Nthe familiar place where regardless if Dialogue: 0,0:14:23.37,0:14:29.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you're going to sign into box or Google\Nor one or WebEx there's or canvas Dialogue: 0,0:14:29.34,0:14:34.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there's a login screen that comes up and\Nyou enter your onid credentials up until Dialogue: 0,0:14:34.50,0:14:40.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't know six months or so ago all of\Nthat single sign-on piece was held on Dialogue: 0,0:14:40.14,0:14:44.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,campus and what that meant was if we\Never had a really bad internet outage\Nand the campus was disconnected then Dialogue: 0,0:14:46.47,0:14:51.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,even though you had services in the\Ncloud like canvas and in Google and Dialogue: 0,0:14:51.11,0:14:55.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,inbox you would not be able to access\Nthem because you first had to come back Dialogue: 0,0:14:55.17,0:14:59.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to campus for that single sign-on\Npiece.we now hosts one of our single Dialogue: 0,0:14:59.07,0:15:05.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sign-on servers in amazon and if my\Nsecond backup yeah as a real-time backup Dialogue: 0,0:15:05.31,0:15:09.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so if the university were to be\Ndisconnected from the internet whether Dialogue: 0,0:15:09.51,0:15:14.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that was through a tape act of terrorism\Nor an earthquake or a natural hazard Dialogue: 0,0:15:14.61,0:15:18.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we'd still be able to access these\Nservices that are cloud hosted because Dialogue: 0,0:15:18.36,0:15:21.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,instead of having to come back to campus\Nwe're able to host that single sign-on Dialogue: 0,0:15:21.84,0:15:26.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,piece in the Amazon Cloud that's pretty\Ncool it's a nice note of resiliency for Dialogue: 0,0:15:26.85,0:15:31.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,us and gives us some options without\Nhaving the\Ncontract and pieces of parts in place we Dialogue: 0,0:15:33.44,0:15:37.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,would not have been able to do that okay\Nso that's just one kind of practical Dialogue: 0,0:15:37.49,0:15:44.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,example for you of how Amazon was able\Nto accomplish what we do so in addition Dialogue: 0,0:15:44.72,0:15:51.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to that what specific and information is\Ncollected by Amazon the specific Dialogue: 0,0:15:51.83,0:15:56.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,information collected by Amazon really\Ndepends on the service that we spent up\Nin the Amazon Dialogue: 0,0:15:57.74,0:16:03.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so as Amazon Web Services as a whole\Nthey collect email address from us and\Nour billing index so that we know how to Dialogue: 0,0:16:06.08,0:16:11.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,route filling back and forth people who\Nbuild services in Amazon though they\Nmight collect different pieces of data Dialogue: 0,0:16:13.19,0:16:18.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so if I'm running a research project and\NI build a service in Amazon then I'm Dialogue: 0,0:16:18.71,0:16:22.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,running that server and I might be\Ncollecting different pieces of data but\Nas far as Amazon themselves there's very Dialogue: 0,0:16:24.86,0:16:31.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,little about us that they collect but\Nthey have it there you know like the Dialogue: 0,0:16:31.61,0:16:35.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,data is stored with them correct the\Ndata is stored with them it's encrypted Dialogue: 0,0:16:35.09,0:16:39.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they do not have access to it okay\Nso it's a very interesting thing because Dialogue: 0,0:16:39.76,0:16:45.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you're familiar with the concept of a\Ndata center where big building lots of Dialogue: 0,0:16:45.20,0:16:50.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,servers Amazon controls access to the\Ndata center so they make sure that Dialogue: 0,0:16:50.60,0:16:55.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,somebody off the street can't come in\Nand just steal servers we control access\Nto the data and the services that we Dialogue: 0,0:16:57.65,0:17:02.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,build upon the data center and that's\Nsomething that Amazon makes very clear Dialogue: 0,0:17:02.06,0:17:06.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is that they don't have access to the\Nservices that we provide they only have Dialogue: 0,0:17:06.80,0:17:11.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,access to the physical data center ok so\Nit's a it's a kind of a different way of Dialogue: 0,0:17:11.69,0:17:16.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thinking because if we're spitting up\Nservices in Amazon we have to be very Dialogue: 0,0:17:16.19,0:17:20.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,very careful about what type of data we\Ncollect and who we open that up to and Dialogue: 0,0:17:20.84,0:17:25.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the security policies that we enforce\Nbecause you know it's completely Dialogue: 0,0:17:25.67,0:17:31.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,possible for you to create an account in\NAmazon spin up a service spin up a Dialogue: 0,0:17:31.19,0:17:34.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,server and collect data from people and\Nnot have Dialogue: 0,0:17:34.03,0:17:37.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,encrypted hmm so there's a lot of\Nresponsibility that comes back to the Dialogue: 0,0:17:37.93,0:17:42.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,end-user to you or me or who's ever\Nbuilding services in Amazon to Dialogue: 0,0:17:42.27,0:17:46.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,understand how that works to understand\Nthe data security pieces and to make Dialogue: 0,0:17:46.72,0:17:50.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,very wise decisions okay\Nthat's we take that very very seriously Dialogue: 0,0:17:50.65,0:17:55.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and any time that we are spinning up\Nservices or we're providing service to\NAmazon that's a discussion that we have Dialogue: 0,0:17:56.83,0:18:01.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yeah that's important it's very very\Nimportant yeah Dialogue: 0,0:18:01.50,0:18:07.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,do you think OSU is transparent enough\Nwhen it comes to which company's process Dialogue: 0,0:18:07.33,0:18:14.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and store student data I have to think\Nso mostly because the companies that we Dialogue: 0,0:18:14.77,0:18:20.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,use you as a students see every day so\Nyou see the canvas the Google the Box Dialogue: 0,0:18:20.71,0:18:24.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you see the type of data that goes in\Nthere because you have your it's Dialogue: 0,0:18:24.25,0:18:26.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,interactive and you're you're\Ninteracting it with every with it every Dialogue: 0,0:18:26.59,0:18:31.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,day you know to take canvas as an\Nexample you see the type of class Dialogue: 0,0:18:31.09,0:18:34.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,information that's there because you see\Nyour course curriculum you see the Dialogue: 0,0:18:34.96,0:18:39.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,assignments the presentations you know\Nthat's the type of data that each of Dialogue: 0,0:18:39.07,0:18:43.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,those companies hold for us and you have\Ndirect access into it what a student be Dialogue: 0,0:18:43.21,0:18:50.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,able to attend OSU but abstain from\Nusing services from third parties I Dialogue: 0,0:18:50.92,0:18:54.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,think it would be really difficult these\Ndays hmm I mean what would you like be\Nwithout canvas yeah or BOTS or Google I Dialogue: 0,0:18:58.06,0:19:03.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,mean I presume you have worked on their\Ndocument together in Google you know I Dialogue: 0,0:19:03.19,0:19:08.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,emailed you from yeah you emailed me\Nfrom Google I think it'd be pretty hard Dialogue: 0,0:19:08.17,0:19:12.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yeah what do you what do you think I\Nthat's that's the thing it's like it Dialogue: 0,0:19:12.88,0:19:19.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,would be almost impossible to manage\Nfinancial statements from you know\Nstudent the student tab to look at you Dialogue: 0,0:19:22.93,0:19:28.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,know courses to see homework it would be\Nor schedule an advising appointed get a\Nsyllabus yeah you can't you can't give Dialogue: 0,0:19:30.52,0:19:33.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it like they don't hand that physic\Nsyllabi I know Dialogue: 0,0:19:33.32,0:19:40.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so it's it's it seems that education\Nisn't instead of a single entity it's Dialogue: 0,0:19:40.82,0:19:49.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know placing part of itself and\Ngrowing in other places and it's you you Dialogue: 0,0:19:49.34,0:19:55.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have to make that trade-off yeah\Nand before you I guess in historically Dialogue: 0,0:19:55.60,0:20:03.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it was you know buying books or\Nfinancially like you'd have to trade Dialogue: 0,0:20:03.77,0:20:11.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,your money to access education now it's\Ntrading information and money it's kind Dialogue: 0,0:20:11.48,0:20:17.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of it's and there's always been that\Ntrade-off so it's it's interesting it's Dialogue: 0,0:20:17.15,0:20:26.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not it's not really it's not your choice\Nyeah so it's it's pretty in with the Dialogue: 0,0:20:26.39,0:20:32.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,value of education yeah it it really\Nopens up yeah issues yeah Dialogue: 0,0:20:32.21,0:20:36.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just as on processes I think it'd be\Nit'd be really hard mm-hmm to come to Dialogue: 0,0:20:36.74,0:20:41.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,school and not use your Gmail and to\Nyou'd be at a serious disadvantage yeah Dialogue: 0,0:20:41.39,0:20:49.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm not quite sure how that was working\Nyeah um also quizzes yeah literally and Dialogue: 0,0:20:49.43,0:20:54.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just couldn't take quizzes yeah\Nso that's something else you know I will Dialogue: 0,0:20:54.29,0:20:58.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I will add one thought to that though\Nsomething that I don't you may bring it Dialogue: 0,0:20:58.04,0:21:02.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,up but something that we're pretty\Ncareful about though are the services Dialogue: 0,0:21:02.87,0:21:07.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we subscribe to and their ability\Nto provide services to disabled students Dialogue: 0,0:21:07.76,0:21:13.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because I think it's pretty easy for you\Nand I to use our laptop and access Dialogue: 0,0:21:13.28,0:21:17.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,things on the internet someone who's\Nblind or can't hear or he and talk Dialogue: 0,0:21:17.24,0:21:21.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,though as as a very very different game\Nyou know a very different experience and Dialogue: 0,0:21:21.29,0:21:27.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so we make sure that that the services\Nthat we do subscribe to our applicable Dialogue: 0,0:21:27.83,0:21:31.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to students with any type of disability\Nand they're there there are different Dialogue: 0,0:21:31.34,0:21:35.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,certifications that these companies have\Nto go through difficult to prove that so Dialogue: 0,0:21:35.47,0:21:38.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know it's pretty easy for you and I\Nto pick up our phones and do things\Nsomeone who can't see though that's a Dialogue: 0,0:21:41.03,0:21:43.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,very\Nball game from him so you know just kind Dialogue: 0,0:21:43.91,0:21:48.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of just that's just gonna random but it\Nbaby I know that's it yeah that though Dialogue: 0,0:21:48.56,0:21:54.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and with disabilities and health\Ninformation you know that's that's also Dialogue: 0,0:21:54.26,0:21:59.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,stored with the school and I assume on\Nyou know is transmitted through Amazon Dialogue: 0,0:21:59.06,0:22:04.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or infrastructure because where this\Nstored Dialogue: 0,0:22:04.04,0:22:09.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yeah those particular things are not\Nstored in the cloud okay that that Dialogue: 0,0:22:09.23,0:22:13.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,particular type of information is scored\Nis stored in something called banner Dialogue: 0,0:22:13.42,0:22:17.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is a which is our big student\Ndatabase for student information and\Nthat is on campus okay so that kind of Dialogue: 0,0:22:19.73,0:22:22.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thing is