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Dialogue: 0,0:00:32.45,0:00:36.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and welcome to the wall exchange my name
Dialogue: 0,0:00:36.96,0:00:39.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is Janice Sarah and I'm the director of
Dialogue: 0,0:00:39.39,0:00:41.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Peterborough Institute for Advanced
Dialogue: 0,0:00:41.10,0:00:43.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Studies and a professor of law the Royal
Dialogue: 0,0:00:43.80,0:00:46.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Exchange is a series of downtown
Dialogue: 0,0:00:46.29,0:00:48.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,lectures sponsored by the Peter wah
Dialogue: 0,0:00:48.03,0:00:50.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Institute of Advanced Studies at the
Dialogue: 0,0:00:50.13,0:00:52.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,University of British Columbia and it's
Dialogue: 0,0:00:52.41,0:00:54.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,really dedicated to trying to advance
Dialogue: 0,0:00:54.17,0:00:57.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,innovative and fundamental research by
Dialogue: 0,0:00:57.12,0:00:59.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,bringing people together in a fulsome
Dialogue: 0,0:00:59.37,0:01:01.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,conversation about timely topics that
Dialogue: 0,0:01:01.77,0:01:04.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are highly important to us as members of
Dialogue: 0,0:01:04.26,0:01:06.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,society and certainly tonight's
Dialogue: 0,0:01:06.69,0:01:09.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,conversation promises I think to
Dialogue: 0,0:01:09.18,0:01:12.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,generate a provocative and stimulating
Dialogue: 0,0:01:12.12,0:01:14.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,debate I'd like to thank the Georgia
Dialogue: 0,0:01:14.16,0:01:16.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Strait magazine for co-sponsoring this
Dialogue: 0,0:01:16.68,0:01:19.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,event and to thank CBC Radio one ideas
Dialogue: 0,0:01:19.59,0:01:22.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,program its producer Kathleen flattery
Dialogue: 0,0:01:22.29,0:01:25.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,en
Dialogue: 0,0:01:31.95,0:01:36.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I would ask you to please turn your cell
Dialogue: 0,0:01:36.69,0:01:38.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,phone ringer Soph I know people might be
Dialogue: 0,0:01:38.81,0:01:41.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,tweeting and things but we'd really like
Dialogue: 0,0:01:41.91,0:01:46.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not to have the noise so just briefly to
Dialogue: 0,0:01:46.11,0:01:48.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,talk about the program this evening dr.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:48.27,0:01:50.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Butler is going to speak for about 50
Dialogue: 0,0:01:50.82,0:01:53.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,minutes Charlie Smith will then serve as
Dialogue: 0,0:01:53.67,0:01:56.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,moderator for a 45-minute question and
Dialogue: 0,0:01:56.25,0:01:58.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,answer period Charlie Smith is an
Dialogue: 0,0:01:58.47,0:02:00.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,accomplished journalist senior editor of
Dialogue: 0,0:02:00.78,0:02:02.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Georgia Strait and former associate
Dialogue: 0,0:02:02.76,0:02:06.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,producer of CBC Radio one it gives me
Dialogue: 0,0:02:06.00,0:02:08.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,great pleasure to introduce Judith
Dialogue: 0,0:02:08.43,0:02:12.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Butler dr. Butler is the Maxine Elliot
Dialogue: 0,0:02:12.09,0:02:13.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,professor in the department's of
Dialogue: 0,0:02:13.62,0:02:16.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,rhetoric and comparative literature and
Dialogue: 0,0:02:16.16,0:02:18.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,co-director of the program of critical
Dialogue: 0,0:02:18.39,0:02:20.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,theory at the University of California
Dialogue: 0,0:02:20.70,0:02:23.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Berkeley she holds the Hannah Aaron
Dialogue: 0,0:02:23.13,0:02:26.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,chair at the European Graduate School in
Dialogue: 0,0:02:26.16,0:02:28.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Switzerland she received her PhD in
Dialogue: 0,0:02:28.89,0:02:31.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,philosophy from Yale University and has
Dialogue: 0,0:02:31.23,0:02:33.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,been awarded the brudno Prize for
Dialogue: 0,0:02:33.45,0:02:36.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,lifetime achievement at that University
Dialogue: 0,0:02:36.05,0:02:39.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Judith Butler has been called simply one
Dialogue: 0,0:02:39.48,0:02:41.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the most probing challenging and
Dialogue: 0,0:02:41.70,0:02:44.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,influential thinkers of our time one of
Dialogue: 0,0:02:44.07,0:02:46.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,America's pre-eminent philosophers she
Dialogue: 0,0:02:46.68,0:02:48.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,has challenged the financial beliefs
Dialogue: 0,0:02:48.42,0:02:50.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that anchor our cultural norms a
Dialogue: 0,0:02:50.52,0:02:53.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,prolific scholar of diverse interests
Dialogue: 0,0:02:53.28,0:02:55.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,she has published significant works on
Dialogue: 0,0:02:55.68,0:02:57.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,feminist and queer theory literary
Dialogue: 0,0:02:57.99,0:03:01.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,theory modern philosophy political
Dialogue: 0,0:03:01.05,0:03:04.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ethics warning and a course war
Dialogue: 0,0:03:04.13,0:03:06.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,dr. Butler applies her extraordinary
Dialogue: 0,0:03:06.68,0:03:09.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,theoretical knowledge to real-world
Dialogue: 0,0:03:09.14,0:03:12.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,situations and her ideas and insights
Dialogue: 0,0:03:12.06,0:03:14.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have both informed and transformed
Dialogue: 0,0:03:14.79,0:03:17.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,current thought she currently holds the
Dialogue: 0,0:03:17.10,0:03:19.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Andrew Mellon Award for distinguished
Dialogue: 0,0:03:19.11,0:03:22.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,academic achievement in humanities in
Dialogue: 0,0:03:22.02,0:03:25.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,her recent article in title dr. Butler
Dialogue: 0,0:03:25.17,0:03:27.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,wrote on precarity embodiment in the
Dialogue: 0,0:03:27.63,0:03:30.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,politics of public space to quote her
Dialogue: 0,0:03:30.27,0:03:32.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when bodies gather as they do they
Dialogue: 0,0:03:32.67,0:03:34.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,express their to express their
Dialogue: 0,0:03:34.38,0:03:36.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,indignation and to enact their plural
Dialogue: 0,0:03:36.57,0:03:38.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,existence in public space they are also
Dialogue: 0,0:03:38.85,0:03:41.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,making broader demands they are
Dialogue: 0,0:03:41.25,0:03:43.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,demanding to be recognized and to be
Dialogue: 0,0:03:43.32,0:03:45.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,valued they are exercised
Dialogue: 0,0:03:45.18,0:03:47.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a right to appear and to exercise
Dialogue: 0,0:03:47.16,0:03:49.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,freedom they are calling for a livable
Dialogue: 0,0:03:49.86,0:03:50.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,life
Dialogue: 0,0:03:50.43,0:03:52.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,these values are presupposed by
Dialogue: 0,0:03:52.47,0:03:54.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,particular demands but they also demand
Dialogue: 0,0:03:54.72,0:03:57.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a more fundamental restructuring of our
Dialogue: 0,0:03:57.15,0:03:59.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,socio-economic and political order
Dialogue: 0,0:03:59.37,0:04:04.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,please join me in welcoming dr. Butler
Dialogue: 0,0:04:19.77,0:04:22.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thank you
Dialogue: 0,0:04:31.97,0:04:33.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thank you very much
Dialogue: 0,0:04:33.78,0:04:36.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm enormous ly pleased to be here in
Dialogue: 0,0:04:36.93,0:04:39.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Vancouver today and I want first of all
Dialogue: 0,0:04:39.99,0:04:43.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to thank the Peter Wall Institute for
Dialogue: 0,0:04:43.32,0:04:47.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this wonderful invitation I'd like also
Dialogue: 0,0:04:47.76,0:04:50.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to acknowledge that we are on the
Dialogue: 0,0:04:50.52,0:04:52.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,traditional lands of the Coast Salish
Dialogue: 0,0:04:52.56,0:04:55.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,peoples
Dialogue: 0,0:05:00.34,0:05:08.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm particularly grateful to Joanna
Dialogue: 0,0:05:08.99,0:05:11.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Forbes and Janice Sara of the Peter wall
Dialogue: 0,0:05:11.51,0:05:13.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Institute the wall family including
Dialogue: 0,0:05:13.70,0:05:16.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sonja wall who I believe is with us this
Dialogue: 0,0:05:16.43,0:05:19.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,evening and the kind people at the vogue
Dialogue: 0,0:05:19.04,0:05:21.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,see her at Georgia Strait and of course
Dialogue: 0,0:05:21.80,0:05:24.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the fabulous people of Vancouver thank
Dialogue: 0,0:05:24.65,0:05:28.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you I have said that I would speak about
Dialogue: 0,0:05:28.52,0:05:31.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,bodies in the street and that is surely
Dialogue: 0,0:05:31.13,0:05:33.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what I plan to address but I want to
Dialogue: 0,0:05:33.80,0:05:36.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,take a moment with you to pause and
Dialogue: 0,0:05:36.44,0:05:39.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,think about what such a lecture can be
Dialogue: 0,0:05:39.59,0:05:43.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,an attempt to set aside some of the
Dialogue: 0,0:05:43.09,0:05:46.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,misconceptions that can easily arise
Dialogue: 0,0:05:46.01,0:05:49.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from such a title it may be thought that
Dialogue: 0,0:05:49.85,0:05:52.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I will say that bodies in the street are
Dialogue: 0,0:05:52.67,0:05:55.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a good thing that we should celebrate
Dialogue: 0,0:05:55.70,0:05:58.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,mass demonstrations and that bodies
Dialogue: 0,0:05:58.07,0:06:00.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,together on the street form a certain
Dialogue: 0,0:06:00.68,0:06:03.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ideal of community or even a new
Dialogue: 0,0:06:03.14,0:06:06.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,politics worthy of praise though
Dialogue: 0,0:06:06.02,0:06:08.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sometimes bodies assembled on the street
Dialogue: 0,0:06:08.42,0:06:12.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are clearly cause for joy even for hope
Dialogue: 0,0:06:12.10,0:06:15.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,let us remember that the phrase bodies
Dialogue: 0,0:06:15.62,0:06:18.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on the street can refer equally well to
Dialogue: 0,0:06:18.67,0:06:22.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,right-wing demonstrations as military
Dialogue: 0,0:06:22.28,0:06:24.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,soldiers assembled to quell
Dialogue: 0,0:06:24.16,0:06:27.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,demonstrations and two forms of military
Dialogue: 0,0:06:27.23,0:06:30.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,occupation so from the start we have to
Dialogue: 0,0:06:30.71,0:06:33.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,be prepared to ask under what conditions
Dialogue: 0,0:06:33.65,0:06:36.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,do we find bodies assembled on the
Dialogue: 0,0:06:36.77,0:06:40.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,street to be cause for celebration or
Dialogue: 0,0:06:40.25,0:06:42.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what forms of assembly actually work in
Dialogue: 0,0:06:42.80,0:06:46.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the service of realizing greater ideals
Dialogue: 0,0:06:46.04,0:06:50.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of justice and equality minimally we can
Dialogue: 0,0:06:50.42,0:06:53.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,say that those demonstrations that seek
Dialogue: 0,0:06:53.03,0:06:55.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to realize justice and equality are
Dialogue: 0,0:06:55.97,0:06:59.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,worthy of praise but even then we are
Dialogue: 0,0:06:59.00,0:07:02.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,called upon to define our terms since as
Dialogue: 0,0:07:02.42,0:07:06.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we know there are conflicting views
Dialogue: 0,0:07:11.13,0:07:14.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about justice to be sure and there are
Dialogue: 0,0:07:14.35,0:07:16.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sure then there are many disparate ways
Dialogue: 0,0:07:16.69,0:07:21.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of thinking and valuing equality to more
Dialogue: 0,0:07:21.19,0:07:24.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,problems immediately present themselves
Dialogue: 0,0:07:24.55,0:07:27.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in certain parts of the world political
Dialogue: 0,0:07:27.25,0:07:31.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,asylum alliances do not or cannot take
Dialogue: 0,0:07:31.06,0:07:33.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the form of Street assemblies think
Dialogue: 0,0:07:33.82,0:07:35.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about conditions of intense police
Dialogue: 0,0:07:35.83,0:07:38.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,surveillance or military occupation
Dialogue: 0,0:07:38.49,0:07:41.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,crowds cannot swell on the streets
Dialogue: 0,0:07:41.02,0:07:43.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,without risking imprisonment injury or
Dialogue: 0,0:07:43.75,0:07:46.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,death and so alliances are sometimes
Dialogue: 0,0:07:46.30,0:07:49.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,made in other forms ones that seek to
Dialogue: 0,0:07:49.12,0:07:51.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,minimize Bottle the exposure to violence
Dialogue: 0,0:07:51.34,0:07:54.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at the same time that demands for
Dialogue: 0,0:07:54.13,0:07:57.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,justice are made hunger strikes within
Dialogue: 0,0:07:57.85,0:08:00.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,prisons as we recently saw in Palestine
Dialogue: 0,0:08:00.49,0:08:03.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,our forms of resistance that must take
Dialogue: 0,0:08:03.22,0:08:06.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,place in spaces of enforced confinement
Dialogue: 0,0:08:06.76,0:08:10.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they are themselves bodily demands for
Dialogue: 0,0:08:10.06,0:08:14.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,public space and public freedom so let
Dialogue: 0,0:08:14.29,0:08:16.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,us remember that heightened bodily
Dialogue: 0,0:08:16.75,0:08:19.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,exposure is not always a political good
Dialogue: 0,0:08:19.75,0:08:22.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or at least not always the most
Dialogue: 0,0:08:22.18,0:08:24.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,successful strategy the Israeli
Dialogue: 0,0:08:24.73,0:08:26.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,occupation of Palestine is a case in
Dialogue: 0,0:08:26.95,0:08:30.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,point further we have to consider as
Dialogue: 0,0:08:30.19,0:08:32.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,well that some forms of political
Dialogue: 0,0:08:32.53,0:08:35.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,assembly do not take place on the street
Dialogue: 0,0:08:35.47,0:08:37.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or in the square precisely because
Dialogue: 0,0:08:37.83,0:08:41.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,streets are not at the center of that
Dialogue: 0,0:08:41.05,0:08:44.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,political action for instance a movement
Dialogue: 0,0:08:44.20,0:08:46.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,may be galvanized for the purposes of
Dialogue: 0,0:08:46.48,0:08:50.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,establishing adequate infrastructure we
Dialogue: 0,0:08:50.47,0:08:52.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can think about the continuing shanty
Dialogue: 0,0:08:52.54,0:08:56.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,towns of South Africa Kenya Pakistan in
Dialogue: 0,0:08:56.17,0:08:58.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sites constructed outside the border of
Dialogue: 0,0:08:58.60,0:09:01.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Europe but also the Barrios of Venezuela
Dialogue: 0,0:09:01.66,0:09:05.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or the baracus of Portugal these are
Dialogue: 0,0:09:05.26,0:09:07.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,more often than not groups of people
Dialogue: 0,0:09:07.51,0:09:10.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,immigrants squatters and/or Roma who are
Dialogue: 0,0:09:10.33,0:09:13.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,struggling precisely for running water
Dialogue: 0,0:09:13.24,0:09:17.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,working toilets paved streets for work
Dialogue: 0,0:09:17.14,0:09:20.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and provisions indeed the street is not
Dialogue: 0,0:09:20.20,0:09:21.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the only site that
Dialogue: 0,0:09:21.22,0:09:23.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we can take for granted for certain
Dialogue: 0,0:09:23.29,0:09:25.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,kinds of public assemblies because the
Dialogue: 0,0:09:25.63,0:09:28.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,street is also a public good for which
Dialogue: 0,0:09:28.30,0:09:30.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people fight an infrastructural
Dialogue: 0,0:09:30.73,0:09:33.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,necessity that forms one of the demands
Dialogue: 0,0:09:33.28,0:09:36.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of certain forms of mobilization and I
Dialogue: 0,0:09:36.64,0:09:38.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,would add certain forms of mobilization
Dialogue: 0,0:09:38.70,0:09:43.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,against precarity and yet I think we can
Dialogue: 0,0:09:43.54,0:09:46.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,see that in such situations with or
Dialogue: 0,0:09:46.24,0:09:49.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,without streets some basic requirements
Dialogue: 0,0:09:49.66,0:09:51.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the body are at the center of
Dialogue: 0,0:09:51.85,0:09:54.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,political mobilizations
Dialogue: 0,0:09:54.10,0:09:56.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we could certainly make a list of those
Dialogue: 0,0:09:56.88,0:09:59.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,bodies require food and shelter
Dialogue: 0,0:09:59.20,0:10:01.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,protection from injury and destruction
Dialogue: 0,0:10:01.47,0:10:07.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,freedom to move employment healthcare
Dialogue: 0,0:10:07.30,0:10:10.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,bodies require other bodies for support
Dialogue: 0,0:10:10.24,0:10:13.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for passion for survival and it matters
Dialogue: 0,0:10:13.51,0:10:16.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what age those bodies are and whether
Dialogue: 0,0:10:16.00,0:10:18.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they are able-bodied since in all forms
Dialogue: 0,0:10:18.70,0:10:21.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of dependency bodies require not just
Dialogue: 0,0:10:21.70,0:10:24.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one other person but social systems of
Dialogue: 0,0:10:24.97,0:10:27.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,support that are complexly human and
Dialogue: 0,0:10:27.67,0:10:31.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,technical but if I say this then another
Dialogue: 0,0:10:31.30,0:10:35.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,set of questions emerge emerges are we
Dialogue: 0,0:10:35.14,0:10:38.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,speaking only about human bodies and can
Dialogue: 0,0:10:38.44,0:10:40.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we speak about bodies at all without the
Dialogue: 0,0:10:40.56,0:10:43.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,environments of the machines and the
Dialogue: 0,0:10:43.03,0:10:44.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,complex systems of social
Dialogue: 0,0:10:44.64,0:10:47.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,interdependence e upon which they rely
Dialogue: 0,0:10:47.28,0:10:49.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which form the conditions of their
Dialogue: 0,0:10:49.84,0:10:53.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,existence and survival and finally even
Dialogue: 0,0:10:53.68,0:10:56.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if we come to understand and enumerate
Dialogue: 0,0:10:56.08,0:10:58.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the requirements of the body do we
Dialogue: 0,0:10:58.63,0:11:01.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,struggle only for those requirements to
Dialogue: 0,0:11:01.18,0:11:04.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,be met or do we struggle as well for
Dialogue: 0,0:11:04.54,0:11:07.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,bodies to thrive it is one thing to
Dialogue: 0,0:11:07.33,0:11:09.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,demand that bodies have what they need
Dialogue: 0,0:11:09.13,0:11:11.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to survive and indeed survival is a
Dialogue: 0,0:11:11.71,0:11:14.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,precondition for all the other claims we
Dialogue: 0,0:11:14.35,0:11:16.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,might make and yet it seems that we
Dialogue: 0,0:11:16.81,0:11:19.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,survive precisely in order to live and
Dialogue: 0,0:11:19.69,0:11:22.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,life as much as it requires survival
Dialogue: 0,0:11:22.66,0:11:25.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,must be more than survival in order to
Dialogue: 0,0:11:25.60,0:11:28.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,be livable so how do we think about a
Dialogue: 0,0:11:28.66,0:11:31.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,livable life without positing a single
Dialogue: 0,0:11:31.54,0:11:34.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or uniform ideal for that life
Dialogue: 0,0:11:34.35,0:11:37.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it is not a matter in my view of finding
Dialogue: 0,0:11:37.47,0:11:40.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,out what the human really is or what the
Dialogue: 0,0:11:40.71,0:11:42.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,human really should be since it has
Dialogue: 0,0:11:42.99,0:11:45.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,surely been made plain that humans are
Dialogue: 0,0:11:45.33,0:11:47.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,animals too and that they're very bodily
Dialogue: 0,0:11:47.91,0:11:50.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,existence depends upon systems of
Dialogue: 0,0:11:50.40,0:11:53.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,support that include human and non-human
Dialogue: 0,0:11:53.18,0:11:57.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,dimensions so to a certain extent I
Dialogue: 0,0:11:57.15,0:11:59.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,follow my colleague Donna Haraway
Dialogue: 0,0:11:59.25,0:12:01.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in asking us to think about the complex
Dialogue: 0,0:12:01.98,0:12:04.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,relation a letís that constitute bodily
Dialogue: 0,0:12:04.86,0:12:07.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,life and to suggest that we do not need
Dialogue: 0,0:12:07.80,0:12:11.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,any more ideal forms of the human but
Dialogue: 0,0:12:11.16,0:12:14.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,rather complex ways of understanding
Dialogue: 0,0:12:14.73,0:12:18.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,those sets of relations without which we
Dialogue: 0,0:12:18.03,0:12:20.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,do not exist at all
Dialogue: 0,0:12:20.66,0:12:23.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,perhaps I've gotten ahead of myself
Dialogue: 0,0:12:23.88,0:12:26.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or perhaps I keep lagging behind the
Dialogue: 0,0:12:26.28,0:12:28.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,topic that forms the purpose of my
Dialogue: 0,0:12:28.74,0:12:31.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,remarks this evening but I wanted to
Dialogue: 0,0:12:31.59,0:12:34.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,pause at the beginning to make sure that
Dialogue: 0,0:12:34.20,0:12:36.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there are no unnecessary
Dialogue: 0,0:12:36.74,0:12:39.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,misunderstandings although there are
Dialogue: 0,0:12:39.63,0:12:41.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,those who will say that active bodies
Dialogue: 0,0:12:41.91,0:12:44.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,assembled on the street constitute a
Dialogue: 0,0:12:44.37,0:12:47.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,surging multitude one that in itself
Dialogue: 0,0:12:47.46,0:12:51.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,constitutes a radical Democratic event
Dialogue: 0,0:12:51.18,0:12:54.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or action I am only partially in
Dialogue: 0,0:12:54.24,0:12:56.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,agreement with that view there are all
Dialogue: 0,0:12:56.85,0:12:59.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sorts of surging multitudes I don't want
Dialogue: 0,0:12:59.76,0:13:02.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to endorse and they would include racist
Dialogue: 0,0:13:02.37,0:13:04.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or fascist congregations and mass
Dialogue: 0,0:13:04.50,0:13:07.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,movements I don't think the point of
Dialogue: 0,0:13:07.38,0:13:10.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,politics is simply to surge forth
Dialogue: 0,0:13:10.59,0:13:13.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,together constituting a new sense of the
Dialogue: 0,0:13:13.17,0:13:15.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people although sometimes for the
Dialogue: 0,0:13:15.27,0:13:18.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,purposes of radical Democratic Change
Dialogue: 0,0:13:18.50,0:13:21.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which I do endorse and for which I
Dialogue: 0,0:13:21.48,0:13:24.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,struggle it is important to surge forth
Dialogue: 0,0:13:24.30,0:13:26.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in ways that claim and alter the
Dialogue: 0,0:13:26.61,0:13:30.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,attention of the world something has to
Dialogue: 0,0:13:30.42,0:13:33.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hold together such a group some demand
Dialogue: 0,0:13:33.84,0:13:37.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,some felt sense of injustice some lived
Dialogue: 0,0:13:37.41,0:13:40.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,experience of the possibility of change
Dialogue: 0,0:13:40.05,0:13:43.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that change has to be fueled by a
Dialogue: 0,0:13:43.74,0:13:45.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,resistance to
Dialogue: 0,0:13:45.52,0:13:48.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,minimally existing and expanding
Dialogue: 0,0:13:48.19,0:13:51.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,inequalities ever increasing conditions
Dialogue: 0,0:13:51.16,0:13:54.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of precarity for many populations both
Dialogue: 0,0:13:54.16,0:13:57.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,locally and globally resistance to forms
Dialogue: 0,0:13:57.94,0:14:00.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of authoritarian and security and
Dialogue: 0,0:14:00.52,0:14:03.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,control that seek to suppress democratic
Dialogue: 0,0:14:03.49,0:14:07.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,movements on the one hand there are
Dialogue: 0,0:14:07.03,0:14:09.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,bodies that assemble on the street or
Dialogue: 0,0:14:09.10,0:14:11.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,online or through other less visible
Dialogue: 0,0:14:11.47,0:14:14.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,networks of solidarity especially in
Dialogue: 0,0:14:14.26,0:14:16.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,prisons whose political claims are made
Dialogue: 0,0:14:16.81,0:14:18.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,through language action gesture and
Dialogue: 0,0:14:18.97,0:14:21.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,movement through linking arms the
Dialogue: 0,0:14:21.31,0:14:23.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,refusing to move to forming bodily modes
Dialogue: 0,0:14:23.89,0:14:25.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of obstruction to police and state
Dialogue: 0,0:14:25.75,0:14:29.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,authorities in making contact in ways
Dialogue: 0,0:14:29.14,0:14:32.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that are difficult to trace and in this
Dialogue: 0,0:14:32.44,0:14:35.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sense we can say that these bodies form
Dialogue: 0,0:14:35.05,0:14:37.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,networks of resistance together
Dialogue: 0,0:14:37.44,0:14:40.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,remembering that bodies are not just
Dialogue: 0,0:14:40.08,0:14:43.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,active agents of resistance but also
Dialogue: 0,0:14:43.56,0:14:47.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,fundamentally in need of support so
Dialogue: 0,0:14:47.44,0:14:49.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,those movements when they work provide
Dialogue: 0,0:14:49.96,0:14:51.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,provisional support in order to
Dialogue: 0,0:14:51.97,0:14:54.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,facilitate the broader demand for forms
Dialogue: 0,0:14:54.58,0:14:59.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of support that make life livable so on
Dialogue: 0,0:14:59.29,0:15:01.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the one hand bodies assemble precisely
Dialogue: 0,0:15:01.21,0:15:04.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to show that they are bodies and they
Dialogue: 0,0:15:04.00,0:15:05.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,let it be known politically what it
Dialogue: 0,0:15:05.68,0:15:09.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,means to persist as a body in this world
Dialogue: 0,0:15:09.42,0:15:12.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what requirements must be met for bodies
Dialogue: 0,0:15:12.40,0:15:14.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to survive and what conditions make of
Dialogue: 0,0:15:14.77,0:15:17.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,bodily life which is the only life we
Dialogue: 0,0:15:17.11,0:15:21.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have finally livable so on the one hand
Dialogue: 0,0:15:21.55,0:15:25.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as I'm saying bodies form in networks of
Dialogue: 0,0:15:25.87,0:15:28.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,resistance on the other hand as I hope
Dialogue: 0,0:15:28.36,0:15:31.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to make clear bodies form in order to
Dialogue: 0,0:15:31.24,0:15:33.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,produce not only structures of support
Dialogue: 0,0:15:33.73,0:15:36.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and in dependency but to events or enact
Dialogue: 0,0:15:36.79,0:15:39.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ideas of community and equality for
Dialogue: 0,0:15:39.55,0:15:43.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which the movement struggles it's not
Dialogue: 0,0:15:43.51,0:15:46.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,only or primarily as abstract subjects
Dialogue: 0,0:15:46.42,0:15:47.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,bearing rights that we take to the
Dialogue: 0,0:15:47.98,0:15:50.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,streets we take to the streets because
Dialogue: 0,0:15:50.47,0:15:53.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we need to walk or move there we need
Dialogue: 0,0:15:53.14,0:15:55.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,streets to be structured so that whether
Dialogue: 0,0:15:55.93,0:15:58.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or not we are in a chair we can move
Dialogue: 0,0:15:58.61,0:16:00.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we can move there without
Dialogue: 0,0:16:00.20,0:16:02.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,obstruction harassment administrative
Dialogue: 0,0:16:02.51,0:16:06.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,detention fear of injury or death if we
Dialogue: 0,0:16:06.14,0:16:08.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are on the street it is because we are
Dialogue: 0,0:16:08.03,0:16:10.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,bodies that require infrastructural
Dialogue: 0,0:16:10.85,0:16:14.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,support for our continuing existence and
Dialogue: 0,0:16:14.21,0:16:18.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for living a life that matters so if I
Dialogue: 0,0:16:18.86,0:16:21.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,caution against an easy celebration of
Dialogue: 0,0:16:21.71,0:16:22.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,active bodies
Dialogue: 0,0:16:22.91,0:16:26.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm also cautioning against the idea
Dialogue: 0,0:16:26.12,0:16:29.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that activism requires that we think of
Dialogue: 0,0:16:29.57,0:16:33.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the body only as active as a Gentek if
Dialogue: 0,0:16:33.62,0:16:37.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the body were by definition active then
Dialogue: 0,0:16:37.40,0:16:39.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we would not need to struggle for the
Dialogue: 0,0:16:39.11,0:16:41.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,conditions that allow the body it's free
Dialogue: 0,0:16:41.81,0:16:43.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,activity in the name of social and
Dialogue: 0,0:16:43.85,0:16:46.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,economic justice and though I do not
Dialogue: 0,0:16:46.76,0:16:49.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,want to rest easily with an idea of the
Dialogue: 0,0:16:49.70,0:16:53.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,body as vulnerable or indeed as passive
Dialogue: 0,0:16:53.45,0:16:56.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I do think that we cannot understand the
Dialogue: 0,0:16:56.39,0:16:59.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,forms of interrelation allottee that
Dialogue: 0,0:16:59.30,0:17:02.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,constitute our bodily lives if we do not
Dialogue: 0,0:17:02.75,0:17:06.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,understand the complex relation between
Dialogue: 0,0:17:06.16,0:17:08.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,vulnerability and those forms of
Dialogue: 0,0:17:08.30,0:17:11.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,activity that come to constitute our
Dialogue: 0,0:17:11.12,0:17:15.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,political resistance indeed even in the
Dialogue: 0,0:17:15.26,0:17:18.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,moment of appearing on the street we are
Dialogue: 0,0:17:18.23,0:17:21.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,vulnerable this is especially true for
Dialogue: 0,0:17:21.02,0:17:22.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,those who appear on the street without
Dialogue: 0,0:17:22.76,0:17:25.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,permits who are opposing the police or
Dialogue: 0,0:17:25.55,0:17:28.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the military or other security forces
Dialogue: 0,0:17:28.24,0:17:31.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one is shorn of protection to be sure
Dialogue: 0,0:17:31.97,0:17:34.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but this does not mean that one is
Dialogue: 0,0:17:34.01,0:17:37.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,reduced to some sort of bare life on the
Dialogue: 0,0:17:37.58,0:17:40.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,contrary to be shorn of protection is a
Dialogue: 0,0:17:40.64,0:17:43.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,form of political exposure at once
Dialogue: 0,0:17:43.37,0:17:46.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,concretely vulnerable and potentially
Dialogue: 0,0:17:46.07,0:17:48.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,defiant how do we understand this
Dialogue: 0,0:17:48.74,0:17:51.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,connection between vulnerability and
Dialogue: 0,0:17:51.50,0:17:56.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,defiance within activism of course
Dialogue: 0,0:17:56.72,0:18:00.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,feminist theorists have for a long time
Dialogue: 0,0:18:00.20,0:18:03.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,argued that women suffer social
Dialogue: 0,0:18:03.11,0:18:06.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,vulnerability disproportionately and
Dialogue: 0,0:18:06.08,0:18:08.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,though there is always a risk in
Dialogue: 0,0:18:08.15,0:18:09.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,claiming that women are especially
Dialogue: 0,0:18:09.86,0:18:12.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,vulnerable given how many of
Dialogue: 0,0:18:12.29,0:18:14.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,groups can certainly make that claim
Dialogue: 0,0:18:14.96,0:18:17.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there is perhaps something important to
Dialogue: 0,0:18:17.66,0:18:19.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,be taken from this tradition of
Dialogue: 0,0:18:19.87,0:18:23.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,argumentation the claim can sometimes be
Dialogue: 0,0:18:23.63,0:18:25.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,taken to mean that women have an
Dialogue: 0,0:18:25.64,0:18:28.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,unchanging and defining vulnerability
Dialogue: 0,0:18:28.28,0:18:30.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that and that kind of argument makes
Dialogue: 0,0:18:30.59,0:18:33.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the case for paternalistic protection if
Dialogue: 0,0:18:33.92,0:18:36.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,women are especially vulnerable then
Dialogue: 0,0:18:36.38,0:18:38.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they seek protection it becomes the
Dialogue: 0,0:18:38.39,0:18:40.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,responsibility of the state or other
Dialogue: 0,0:18:40.19,0:18:42.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,paternal powers to provide that
Dialogue: 0,0:18:42.44,0:18:45.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,protection on that model feminist
Dialogue: 0,0:18:45.23,0:18:48.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,activism not only petitions paternal
Dialogue: 0,0:18:48.02,0:18:50.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Authority for special dispensations and
Dialogue: 0,0:18:50.39,0:18:53.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,protections but affirms that inequality
Dialogue: 0,0:18:53.54,0:18:55.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of power that situates women in a
Dialogue: 0,0:18:55.76,0:18:58.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,powerless position and by implication
Dialogue: 0,0:18:58.07,0:19:01.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,men in a more powerful one or it invests
Dialogue: 0,0:19:01.70,0:19:04.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the state with the responsibility for
Dialogue: 0,0:19:04.97,0:19:07.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,facilitating the achievement of feminist
Dialogue: 0,0:19:07.79,0:19:11.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,goals such a view is very different from
Dialogue: 0,0:19:11.06,0:19:14.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one from one that claims for instance
Dialogue: 0,0:19:14.21,0:19:17.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that women are vulnerable and capable of
Dialogue: 0,0:19:17.39,0:19:19.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,resistance that vulnerability and
Dialogue: 0,0:19:19.70,0:19:22.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,resistance can and do happen at the same
Dialogue: 0,0:19:22.49,0:19:25.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,time as we see in certain forms of
Dialogue: 0,0:19:25.64,0:19:28.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,feminist self-defense or even in certain
Dialogue: 0,0:19:28.49,0:19:30.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,openly political movements of women in
Dialogue: 0,0:19:30.86,0:19:32.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the public sphere where they are not
Dialogue: 0,0:19:32.84,0:19:36.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,generally allowed to appear we can think
Dialogue: 0,0:19:36.05,0:19:38.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the walks or we can think about
Dialogue: 0,0:19:38.75,0:19:41.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,those who oppose harassment or injury by
Dialogue: 0,0:19:41.99,0:19:44.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,virtue of appearing as they do this
Dialogue: 0,0:19:44.21,0:19:46.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,would in my mind also include Muslim
Dialogue: 0,0:19:46.97,0:19:49.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,women wearing full veils in France who
Dialogue: 0,0:19:49.46,0:19:55.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are unjustly subject to to arrest and
Dialogue: 0,0:19:55.55,0:20:00.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and and and fines of course there are
Dialogue: 0,0:20:00.26,0:20:02.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,good reasons to argue for the
Dialogue: 0,0:20:02.12,0:20:04.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,differential vulnerability of women they
Dialogue: 0,0:20:04.70,0:20:06.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,do suffer disproportionately from
Dialogue: 0,0:20:06.50,0:20:10.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,poverty and literacy two very important
Dialogue: 0,0:20:10.22,0:20:12.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,dimensions of any global analysis of
Dialogue: 0,0:20:12.59,0:20:15.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,women's condition so when I'm asked for
Dialogue: 0,0:20:15.08,0:20:18.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,instance are you a post feminist I say
Dialogue: 0,0:20:18.20,0:20:20.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,well as long as women suffer
Dialogue: 0,0:20:20.63,0:20:23.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,disproportionately from from poverty and
Dialogue: 0,0:20:23.45,0:20:25.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,literacy and our disproportionate
Dialogue: 0,0:20:25.70,0:20:28.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,vulnerable to violence I'm still a
Dialogue: 0,0:20:28.25,0:20:38.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,feminist so the question that emerges
Dialogue: 0,0:20:38.45,0:20:42.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and forms the focus of my question here
Dialogue: 0,0:20:42.38,0:20:44.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is how to think about the vulnerability
Dialogue: 0,0:20:44.78,0:20:46.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of women in conjunction with feminist
Dialogue: 0,0:20:46.73,0:20:49.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,modes of agency and how to think both in
Dialogue: 0,0:20:49.37,0:20:51.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,light of global conditions and emerging
Dialogue: 0,0:20:51.77,0:20:54.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,possibilities of Global Alliance this
Dialogue: 0,0:20:54.95,0:20:57.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,task is made all the more difficult as
Dialogue: 0,0:20:57.80,0:20:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,state structures and institutions of
Dialogue: 0,0:20:59.99,0:21:02.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,social welfare lose their own resources
Dialogue: 0,0:21:02.84,0:21:05.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thus exposing more populations to
Dialogue: 0,0:21:05.27,0:21:08.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,homelessness unemployment illiteracy and
Dialogue: 0,0:21:08.48,0:21:11.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,inadequate health care so the struggle
Dialogue: 0,0:21:11.18,0:21:13.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in my view is how to make the feminists
Dialogue: 0,0:21:13.52,0:21:16.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,claim effectively that such institutions
Dialogue: 0,0:21:16.19,0:21:19.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are crucial to sustaining lives at the
Dialogue: 0,0:21:19.43,0:21:22.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,same time that feminists resist modes of
Dialogue: 0,0:21:22.25,0:21:24.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,paternalism that reinstate relations of
Dialogue: 0,0:21:24.95,0:21:28.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,inequality in some ways vulnerability
Dialogue: 0,0:21:28.58,0:21:30.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,has been regarded as a value in feminist
Dialogue: 0,0:21:30.92,0:21:32.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,theory in politics
Dialogue: 0,0:21:32.27,0:21:34.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this means neither that women are more
Dialogue: 0,0:21:34.64,0:21:37.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,vulnerable than men nor that women value
Dialogue: 0,0:21:37.46,0:21:40.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,vulnerability more than men do rather
Dialogue: 0,0:21:40.31,0:21:42.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,certain kinds of gender defining
Dialogue: 0,0:21:42.83,0:21:45.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,attributes like vulnerability and
Dialogue: 0,0:21:45.53,0:21:48.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,invulnerability are distributed
Dialogue: 0,0:21:48.14,0:21:51.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,unequally and for purposes of shoring up
Dialogue: 0,0:21:51.77,0:21:53.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,certain regimes of power that
Dialogue: 0,0:21:53.87,0:21:56.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,disenfranchised women we think about
Dialogue: 0,0:21:56.72,0:21:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,goods as as distributed unequally under
Dialogue: 0,0:21:59.99,0:22:03.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,capitalism we think about opportunities
Dialogue: 0,0:22:03.46,0:22:06.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,distributed unequally under capitalism
Dialogue: 0,0:22:06.23,0:22:08.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we think about natural resources
Dialogue: 0,0:22:08.27,0:22:11.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,especially water distributed unequally
Dialogue: 0,0:22:11.30,0:22:14.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but we should also surely consider that
Dialogue: 0,0:22:14.45,0:22:17.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one way of managing populations is to
Dialogue: 0,0:22:17.27,0:22:20.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,distribute vulnerability unequally in
Dialogue: 0,0:22:20.15,0:22:23.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,such a way that vulnerable populations
Dialogue: 0,0:22:23.57,0:22:25.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are established within discourse and
Dialogue: 0,0:22:25.73,0:22:29.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,policy more recently we note that social
Dialogue: 0,0:22:29.48,0:22:32.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,movements and policy analysts refer to
Dialogue: 0,0:22:32.24,0:22:34.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,precarious populations and that
Dialogue: 0,0:22:34.76,0:22:36.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,political strategies are accordingly
Dialogue: 0,0:22:36.83,0:22:38.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,devised to think
Dialogue: 0,0:22:38.20,0:22:40.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about ameliorating conditions of
Dialogue: 0,0:22:40.33,0:22:43.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,precarity as we extend the economic
Dialogue: 0,0:22:43.57,0:22:45.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,notion of unequal distribution to
Dialogue: 0,0:22:45.88,0:22:48.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,broader social and cultural spheres we
Dialogue: 0,0:22:48.82,0:22:51.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are also confronted especially during
Dialogue: 0,0:22:51.25,0:22:54.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,times of war with the uneven grieve
Dialogue: 0,0:22:54.43,0:22:58.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ability of populations that is the idea
Dialogue: 0,0:22:58.39,0:23:01.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that certain lives if lost are more
Dialogue: 0,0:23:01.03,0:23:03.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,worthy of memorialization and public
Dialogue: 0,0:23:03.58,0:23:06.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,grieving than others populations
Dialogue: 0,0:23:06.43,0:23:09.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,targeted for injury and destruction in
Dialogue: 0,0:23:09.04,0:23:12.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,war are often considered unbelievable
Dialogue: 0,0:23:12.13,0:23:14.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from the start but so too are
Dialogue: 0,0:23:14.68,0:23:17.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,populations whose labor is episodic and
Dialogue: 0,0:23:17.86,0:23:20.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,precarious or who are considered
Dialogue: 0,0:23:20.11,0:23:23.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,abandoned through systematic forms of
Dialogue: 0,0:23:23.04,0:23:27.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,negligence when vulnerability is
Dialogue: 0,0:23:27.25,0:23:30.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,distributed unequally then certain
Dialogue: 0,0:23:30.19,0:23:32.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,populations are effectively targeted as
Dialogue: 0,0:23:32.83,0:23:37.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,endurable with impunity or disposable
Dialogue: 0,0:23:37.05,0:23:41.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,without reparation this kind of explicit
Dialogue: 0,0:23:41.11,0:23:44.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or implicit marking can work to justify
Dialogue: 0,0:23:44.20,0:23:46.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the infliction of injury upon them as we
Dialogue: 0,0:23:46.84,0:23:49.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,see in times of war or in state violence
Dialogue: 0,0:23:49.39,0:23:52.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,against undocumented citizens or we can
Dialogue: 0,0:23:52.81,0:23:55.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,see such populations as responsible for
Dialogue: 0,0:23:55.36,0:23:58.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,their own position or conversely in need
Dialogue: 0,0:23:58.03,0:24:00.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of protection from the state or other
Dialogue: 0,0:24:00.16,0:24:03.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,institutions of civil society it's
Dialogue: 0,0:24:03.64,0:24:06.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,important to note that when such
Dialogue: 0,0:24:06.27,0:24:09.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,redistributive strategies abound than
Dialogue: 0,0:24:09.37,0:24:11.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,other populations usually the ones
Dialogue: 0,0:24:11.92,0:24:14.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,orchestrating or affecting the processes
Dialogue: 0,0:24:14.35,0:24:18.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of redistribution posit themselves as
Dialogue: 0,0:24:18.21,0:24:21.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,invulnerable if not impermeable and
Dialogue: 0,0:24:21.58,0:24:24.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,without any such needs of protection
Dialogue: 0,0:24:24.58,0:24:27.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this approach takes vulnerability and
Dialogue: 0,0:24:27.46,0:24:30.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,invulnerability as political effects
Dialogue: 0,0:24:30.46,0:24:33.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,unequally distributed effects of a field
Dialogue: 0,0:24:33.37,0:24:35.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of power that acts on and through bodies
Dialogue: 0,0:24:35.83,0:24:38.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if vulnerability has been culturally
Dialogue: 0,0:24:38.59,0:24:40.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,coded feminine then how are certain
Dialogue: 0,0:24:40.99,0:24:43.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,populations effectively feminized when
Dialogue: 0,0:24:43.84,0:24:46.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,designated as vulnerable and others
Dialogue: 0,0:24:46.18,0:24:48.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,construed as masculine when laying claim
Dialogue: 0,0:24:48.55,0:24:50.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to impermeable
Dialogue: 0,0:24:50.54,0:24:53.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,once again these are not essential
Dialogue: 0,0:24:53.24,0:24:56.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,features of men or women but processes
Dialogue: 0,0:24:56.60,0:25:00.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of gender formation effects of power
Dialogue: 0,0:25:00.32,0:25:03.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that have as one of their aims the
Dialogue: 0,0:25:03.17,0:25:05.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,production of gender differences along
Dialogue: 0,0:25:05.78,0:25:08.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,lines of inequality this has led
Dialogue: 0,0:25:08.84,0:25:11.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,psychoanalytic feminists to remark that
Dialogue: 0,0:25:11.57,0:25:14.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the masculine position construed in such
Dialogue: 0,0:25:14.12,0:25:16.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a way is effectively built through a
Dialogue: 0,0:25:16.88,0:25:18.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,denial of its own constitutive
Dialogue: 0,0:25:18.97,0:25:22.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,vulnerability this denial or disavowal
Dialogue: 0,0:25:22.28,0:25:25.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,requires the political institution of
Dialogue: 0,0:25:25.21,0:25:27.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,oblivion or forgetfulness
Dialogue: 0,0:25:27.56,0:25:30.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,more specifically the forgetting of
Dialogue: 0,0:25:30.38,0:25:33.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one's own vulnerability its projection
Dialogue: 0,0:25:33.53,0:25:37.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and displacement elsewhere the one who
Dialogue: 0,0:25:37.19,0:25:39.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,achieves this impermeability
Dialogue: 0,0:25:39.05,0:25:43.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,erases or externalizes all trace of a
Dialogue: 0,0:25:43.22,0:25:46.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,memory of vulnerability the person who
Dialogue: 0,0:25:46.10,0:25:49.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,considers himself by definition to be
Dialogue: 0,0:25:49.07,0:25:52.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,invulnerable aspect effectively says I
Dialogue: 0,0:25:52.01,0:25:55.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was never vulnerable and if I was it
Dialogue: 0,0:25:55.04,0:25:58.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,wasn't true and I have no memory of that
Dialogue: 0,0:25:58.04,0:26:02.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,condition an obviously contradictory
Dialogue: 0,0:26:02.09,0:26:04.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,statement it nevertheless shows us
Dialogue: 0,0:26:04.10,0:26:06.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,something of the political syntax of
Dialogue: 0,0:26:06.68,0:26:09.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,disavowal but it also tells us something
Dialogue: 0,0:26:09.44,0:26:12.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about how histories can be told in order
Dialogue: 0,0:26:12.77,0:26:15.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to support an ideal of the self one
Dialogue: 0,0:26:15.68,0:26:16.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,wishes were true
Dialogue: 0,0:26:16.97,0:26:19.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,such histories depend on disavowal for
Dialogue: 0,0:26:19.55,0:26:22.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,their coherence and this coherence is
Dialogue: 0,0:26:22.04,0:26:26.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,also thereby rendered suspect although
Dialogue: 0,0:26:26.71,0:26:28.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,psychoanalytic perspectives such as
Dialogue: 0,0:26:28.88,0:26:31.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,these are important as a way of gaining
Dialogue: 0,0:26:31.25,0:26:34.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,insight into this particular way that
Dialogue: 0,0:26:34.07,0:26:36.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,vulnerability is distributed along
Dialogue: 0,0:26:36.53,0:26:39.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,gender lines it only goes part of the
Dialogue: 0,0:26:39.05,0:26:41.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,way toward the kind of analysis needed
Dialogue: 0,0:26:41.66,0:26:45.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,here since if we say that some person or
Dialogue: 0,0:26:45.68,0:26:49.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,some group denies vulnerability we are
Dialogue: 0,0:26:49.76,0:26:51.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,assuming not only that the vulnerability
Dialogue: 0,0:26:51.80,0:26:55.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was already there but also that it is in
Dialogue: 0,0:26:55.70,0:27:00.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,some sense deniable of course one cannot
Dialogue: 0,0:27:00.26,0:27:03.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,make an easy analogy between in
Dialogue: 0,0:27:03.14,0:27:06.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,vidual and group formations and yet
Dialogue: 0,0:27:06.02,0:27:08.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,modes of denial or disavowal can be seen
Dialogue: 0,0:27:08.96,0:27:12.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to traverse them both for instance to
Dialogue: 0,0:27:12.95,0:27:14.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,certain defenders of the military
Dialogue: 0,0:27:14.99,0:27:16.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,rationale for the destruction of
Dialogue: 0,0:27:16.73,0:27:19.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,targeted groups or populations we might
Dialogue: 0,0:27:19.52,0:27:22.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,say you act as if you yourself were not
Dialogue: 0,0:27:22.88,0:27:25.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,vulnerable to the kind of destruction
Dialogue: 0,0:27:25.25,0:27:28.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you caused or to defenders of certain
Dialogue: 0,0:27:28.49,0:27:31.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,forms of neoliberal economics you act as
Dialogue: 0,0:27:31.61,0:27:34.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you yourself could never belong to a
Dialogue: 0,0:27:34.37,0:27:37.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,population whose work and life is
Dialogue: 0,0:27:37.01,0:27:40.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,considered disposable precarious who can
Dialogue: 0,0:27:40.88,0:27:43.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,suddenly be deprived a base of basic
Dialogue: 0,0:27:43.16,0:27:45.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,rights of access to housing or health
Dialogue: 0,0:27:45.68,0:27:49.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,care or who lives with anxiety about how
Dialogue: 0,0:27:49.16,0:27:52.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and whether work will ever arrive in
Dialogue: 0,0:27:52.49,0:27:55.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this way then we assume that those who
Dialogue: 0,0:27:55.49,0:27:58.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,seek to expose others to such positions
Dialogue: 0,0:27:58.34,0:28:00.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of Honor ability or those who seek
Dialogue: 0,0:28:00.95,0:28:03.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,deposit and maintain a position of
Dialogue: 0,0:28:03.62,0:28:07.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,invulnerability for themselves deny a
Dialogue: 0,0:28:07.88,0:28:09.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,vulnerability by which they are in fact
Dialogue: 0,0:28:09.98,0:28:13.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,bound to the ones they seek to subjugate
Dialogue: 0,0:28:13.81,0:28:16.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this last claim it's a claim I'm willing
Dialogue: 0,0:28:16.70,0:28:19.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to make moves in the direction of a
Dialogue: 0,0:28:19.43,0:28:22.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,common or shared vulnerability but this
Dialogue: 0,0:28:22.58,0:28:25.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,has meant less as an existential thesis
Dialogue: 0,0:28:25.49,0:28:28.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,than as a general claim about how bodies
Dialogue: 0,0:28:28.94,0:28:33.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are invariably dependent upon enduring
Dialogue: 0,0:28:33.08,0:28:36.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,viable social relations and institutions
Dialogue: 0,0:28:36.05,0:28:40.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for their survival and their well-being
Dialogue: 0,0:28:40.06,0:28:43.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,although this claim can be understood as
Dialogue: 0,0:28:43.10,0:28:46.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,an existential one it belongs in my view
Dialogue: 0,0:28:46.13,0:28:49.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,more properly to the articulation of a
Dialogue: 0,0:28:49.16,0:28:52.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,social ontology that I am trying in a
Dialogue: 0,0:28:52.01,0:28:54.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,preliminary way to suggest can become
Dialogue: 0,0:28:54.86,0:28:58.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the basis for new forms of coalition one
Dialogue: 0,0:28:58.19,0:29:01.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we see episodically instanced in
Dialogue: 0,0:29:01.04,0:29:04.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the contemporary politics of the street
Dialogue: 0,0:29:04.42,0:29:07.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,even though i see the two levels of this
Dialogue: 0,0:29:07.34,0:29:09.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,analysis i want to suggest that these
Dialogue: 0,0:29:09.92,0:29:12.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are not two forms of vulnerability
Dialogue: 0,0:29:12.37,0:29:15.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,rather i want to argue that for
Dialogue: 0,0:29:15.68,0:29:18.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,bodily vulnerability presupposes a
Dialogue: 0,0:29:18.83,0:29:21.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,social world that we are as bodies
Dialogue: 0,0:29:21.53,0:29:24.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,vulnerable to others and to institutions
Dialogue: 0,0:29:24.56,0:29:27.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that this vulnerability constitutes
Dialogue: 0,0:29:27.20,0:29:29.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one aspect of the social modality
Dialogue: 0,0:29:29.99,0:29:33.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,through which bodies persist and then
Dialogue: 0,0:29:33.26,0:29:35.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,secondly I want to suggest that the
Dialogue: 0,0:29:35.72,0:29:39.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,issue of my vulnerability or your
Dialogue: 0,0:29:39.28,0:29:42.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,vulnerability implicates us in a broader
Dialogue: 0,0:29:42.38,0:29:45.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,political problem of equality and
Dialogue: 0,0:29:45.35,0:29:48.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,inequality since vulnerability can be
Dialogue: 0,0:29:48.44,0:29:51.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,projected and denied psychological
Dialogue: 0,0:29:51.17,0:29:53.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,categories but also exploited and
Dialogue: 0,0:29:53.90,0:29:56.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,manipulated social and economic
Dialogue: 0,0:29:56.42,0:29:59.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,categories in the production of
Dialogue: 0,0:29:59.05,0:30:02.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,inequality this is what is meant by the
Dialogue: 0,0:30:02.48,0:30:06.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,unequal distribution of vulnerability
Dialogue: 0,0:30:06.46,0:30:09.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,vulnerability constitutes one aspect of
Dialogue: 0,0:30:09.47,0:30:12.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the political modality of the body where
Dialogue: 0,0:30:12.05,0:30:14.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the body is surely human understood as a
Dialogue: 0,0:30:14.75,0:30:17.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,human animal vulnerability to one
Dialogue: 0,0:30:17.87,0:30:20.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,another that is to say even when
Dialogue: 0,0:30:20.57,0:30:24.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,conceived as reciprocal marks a pre
Dialogue: 0,0:30:24.20,0:30:26.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,contractual dimension of our social
Dialogue: 0,0:30:26.84,0:30:29.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,relations this means as well that at
Dialogue: 0,0:30:29.96,0:30:32.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,some level it defies the instrumental
Dialogue: 0,0:30:32.63,0:30:35.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,logic that claims I will only protect
Dialogue: 0,0:30:35.75,0:30:38.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,your vulnerability if you protect mine
Dialogue: 0,0:30:38.92,0:30:41.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,according to which politics becomes a
Dialogue: 0,0:30:41.45,0:30:44.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,matter of brokering a deal or making a
Dialogue: 0,0:30:44.74,0:30:48.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,calculation or strategically entering
Dialogue: 0,0:30:48.02,0:30:51.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,into a contract in fact it constitutes
Dialogue: 0,0:30:51.47,0:30:53.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the conditions of sociality and
Dialogue: 0,0:30:53.48,0:30:56.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,politically fit of political life that I
Dialogue: 0,0:30:56.27,0:30:58.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,would argue cannot be contractually
Dialogue: 0,0:30:58.66,0:31:01.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,stipulated and whose denial and
Dialogue: 0,0:31:01.16,0:31:03.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,manipulable 'ti constitutes an effort to
Dialogue: 0,0:31:03.98,0:31:06.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,destroy or manage a condition of
Dialogue: 0,0:31:06.85,0:31:11.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,potential equality I don't mean to
Dialogue: 0,0:31:11.33,0:31:14.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,suggest by this last formulation that
Dialogue: 0,0:31:14.03,0:31:16.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there's a single subject sovereign who
Dialogue: 0,0:31:16.97,0:31:19.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,allocates vulnerability differentially
Dialogue: 0,0:31:19.52,0:31:23.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or unequally these modes of allocation
Dialogue: 0,0:31:23.33,0:31:26.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and even disavowal can be built into
Dialogue: 0,0:31:26.02,0:31:28.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,institutional rationalities and stress
Dialogue: 0,0:31:28.52,0:31:31.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,oh geez and so become forms of power
Dialogue: 0,0:31:31.82,0:31:34.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that operate without this the conceit of
Dialogue: 0,0:31:34.70,0:31:40.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a single deciding subject and so efforts
Dialogue: 0,0:31:40.97,0:31:43.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to challenge and contest these issues
Dialogue: 0,0:31:43.36,0:31:45.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,something that happens more often than
Dialogue: 0,0:31:45.56,0:31:48.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not under the name of precarity takes
Dialogue: 0,0:31:48.77,0:31:50.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,aim not only at individuals who make
Dialogue: 0,0:31:50.87,0:31:53.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,policy but more fundamentally at the
Dialogue: 0,0:31:53.99,0:31:56.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,forms of rationality representation and
Dialogue: 0,0:31:56.54,0:32:01.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,strategy that inform this condition so
Dialogue: 0,0:32:01.13,0:32:03.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the way this differential allocation of
Dialogue: 0,0:32:03.80,0:32:05.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,vulnerability works doesn't always
Dialogue: 0,0:32:05.66,0:32:09.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,presuppose a dyadic frame one person or
Dialogue: 0,0:32:09.41,0:32:12.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,group does something to another on those
Dialogue: 0,0:32:12.74,0:32:14.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,occasions when there are groups who do
Dialogue: 0,0:32:14.84,0:32:17.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not appear at all or who do not count
Dialogue: 0,0:32:17.21,0:32:19.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whose bodies do not matter then the
Dialogue: 0,0:32:19.60,0:32:22.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,institutionalized forms of a Faceman at
Dialogue: 0,0:32:22.10,0:32:24.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,issue cannot readily be described
Dialogue: 0,0:32:24.38,0:32:26.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,through recourse to the category of the
Dialogue: 0,0:32:26.96,0:32:29.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,subject so it's not that one subject
Dialogue: 0,0:32:29.99,0:32:32.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,does this to another whether the subject
Dialogue: 0,0:32:32.15,0:32:35.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is understood is singular or plural it's
Dialogue: 0,0:32:35.48,0:32:41.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,rather that a set of strategies produce
Dialogue: 0,0:32:41.60,0:32:44.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the situation in which a population
Dialogue: 0,0:32:44.26,0:32:48.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,cannot appear as a subject at all in the
Dialogue: 0,0:32:48.83,0:32:50.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,US for instance the history of Native
Dialogue: 0,0:32:50.84,0:32:52.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,peoples tends to fall into this category
Dialogue: 0,0:32:52.97,0:32:55.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the history in Canada is of course
Dialogue: 0,0:32:55.73,0:32:59.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,related yet distinct Native peoples are
Dialogue: 0,0:32:59.21,0:33:01.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,described and given discursive life
Dialogue: 0,0:33:01.10,0:33:03.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,through national narratives about the
Dialogue: 0,0:33:03.23,0:33:05.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,founding of the Americas and yet this
Dialogue: 0,0:33:05.48,0:33:08.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,very description these very narratives
Dialogue: 0,0:33:08.06,0:33:10.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,more often than not become the means of
Dialogue: 0,0:33:10.76,0:33:14.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,effacement as we know since Spain was an
Dialogue: 0,0:33:14.39,0:33:17.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,imperial power before the u.s. that the
Dialogue: 0,0:33:17.03,0:33:19.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,colonization of the Americas brought
Dialogue: 0,0:33:19.04,0:33:21.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with it acts of slaughter and killing
Dialogue: 0,0:33:21.41,0:33:23.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that are regularly denied on what is
Dialogue: 0,0:33:23.87,0:33:26.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,still called in the u.s. Columbus Day
Dialogue: 0,0:33:26.54,0:33:31.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and now of course there is a popular
Dialogue: 0,0:33:31.58,0:33:34.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,movement that has achieved rather
Dialogue: 0,0:33:34.46,0:33:37.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,widespread success in renaming that day
Dialogue: 0,0:33:37.81,0:33:40.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,indigenous peoples day
Dialogue: 0,0:33:40.53,0:33:42.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when we speak about a face meant we are
Dialogue: 0,0:33:42.99,0:33:45.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,also speaking about the regulation of
Dialogue: 0,0:33:45.45,0:33:47.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,memory and entering into another
Dialogue: 0,0:33:47.40,0:33:53.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,formulation of disavowal there was no
Dialogue: 0,0:33:53.88,0:33:56.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,slaughter for radical dispossession and
Dialogue: 0,0:33:56.46,0:33:59.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,even if there were I do not remember it
Dialogue: 0,0:33:59.43,0:34:02.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or there is no reliable archive or it is
Dialogue: 0,0:34:02.52,0:34:04.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not among the histories that any of us
Dialogue: 0,0:34:04.41,0:34:07.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,know or tell but if we were to enter
Dialogue: 0,0:34:07.05,0:34:10.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that history into a comparative study of
Dialogue: 0,0:34:10.53,0:34:13.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,genocide or a comparative history of
Dialogue: 0,0:34:13.08,0:34:15.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,forcible displacement then would we we
Dialogue: 0,0:34:15.42,0:34:19.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,would see how the killing of whole
Dialogue: 0,0:34:19.26,0:34:21.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,populations in Congo and Nazi Germany
Dialogue: 0,0:34:21.78,0:34:23.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and Armenia in the early part of the
Dialogue: 0,0:34:23.43,0:34:25.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,20th century or the more recent
Dialogue: 0,0:34:25.32,0:34:27.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,histories of the disappeared in Chile
Dialogue: 0,0:34:27.78,0:34:30.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Argentina or even the political murders
Dialogue: 0,0:34:30.33,0:34:32.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of Franco's Spain regularly become
Dialogue: 0,0:34:32.91,0:34:35.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,matters for historians to dispute will
Dialogue: 0,0:34:35.91,0:34:38.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there be an institutionalized memory or
Dialogue: 0,0:34:38.61,0:34:41.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not and in such cases it's not a matter
Dialogue: 0,0:34:41.64,0:34:43.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of memory as something that is held in
Dialogue: 0,0:34:43.98,0:34:46.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the mind by someone who has experienced
Dialogue: 0,0:34:46.23,0:34:49.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this destruction directly rather it is a
Dialogue: 0,0:34:49.62,0:34:51.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,memory that is maintained through
Dialogue: 0,0:34:51.72,0:34:54.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,historical record through discursive and
Dialogue: 0,0:34:54.17,0:34:56.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,transmittable means through
Dialogue: 0,0:34:56.40,0:34:59.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,documentation image and archive to
Dialogue: 0,0:34:59.43,0:35:01.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,preserve the memory of the vulnerability
Dialogue: 0,0:35:01.86,0:35:04.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of bodies under such conditions requires
Dialogue: 0,0:35:04.80,0:35:07.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a form of memorialization that must be
Dialogue: 0,0:35:07.44,0:35:10.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,repeated and re-established over time
Dialogue: 0,0:35:10.08,0:35:12.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and space and this means that there is
Dialogue: 0,0:35:12.63,0:35:15.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,no one memory that memory is not finally
Dialogue: 0,0:35:15.51,0:35:18.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a property of cognition but rather that
Dialogue: 0,0:35:18.45,0:35:21.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,memory is socially maintained and
Dialogue: 0,0:35:21.11,0:35:23.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,transmitted through certain forms of
Dialogue: 0,0:35:23.25,0:35:26.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,documentation and exhibition through
Dialogue: 0,0:35:26.79,0:35:30.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,media in this sense we might say that
Dialogue: 0,0:35:30.06,0:35:32.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the historical vulnerability of those
Dialogue: 0,0:35:32.34,0:35:33.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who were exploited whose land was
Dialogue: 0,0:35:33.93,0:35:36.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,confiscated or whose lives were lost is
Dialogue: 0,0:35:36.75,0:35:40.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,always at risk of disappearing this is
Dialogue: 0,0:35:40.23,0:35:43.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,why Walter benjamine thought there that
Dialogue: 0,0:35:43.53,0:35:46.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there that a struggle must be waged for
Dialogue: 0,0:35:46.35,0:35:49.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the history of the oppressed precisely
Dialogue: 0,0:35:49.11,0:35:51.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because under modern conditions that
Dialogue: 0,0:35:51.75,0:35:53.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,history runs the risk of
Dialogue: 0,0:35:53.78,0:35:58.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,appearing always into oblivion it is
Dialogue: 0,0:35:58.04,0:36:00.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this Benjamin Ian Maxim that was and is
Dialogue: 0,0:36:00.53,0:36:03.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,enacted by the madres de Plaza de Mayo
Dialogue: 0,0:36:03.29,0:36:06.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who beginning in 1977 started to meet
Dialogue: 0,0:36:06.83,0:36:09.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,every Thursday in that large square in
Dialogue: 0,0:36:09.89,0:36:12.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Buenos Aires the site of Argentina's
Dialogue: 0,0:36:12.29,0:36:15.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,government publicly to protest the
Dialogue: 0,0:36:15.23,0:36:17.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,disappearance of their children those
Dialogue: 0,0:36:17.57,0:36:19.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,suspected of activism against the
Dialogue: 0,0:36:19.88,0:36:23.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,dictatorship illegally and persistently
Dialogue: 0,0:36:23.42,0:36:26.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they walked in nonviolent demonstrations
Dialogue: 0,0:36:26.66,0:36:29.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,taking back public space and even making
Dialogue: 0,0:36:29.78,0:36:32.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,use of their public exposure as mothers
Dialogue: 0,0:36:32.54,0:36:35.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,precisely to defy the regime as they
Dialogue: 0,0:36:35.87,0:36:39.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,walked they chanted we want our children
Dialogue: 0,0:36:39.08,0:36:42.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we want them to tell us where they are
Dialogue: 0,0:36:42.40,0:36:45.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the moderates said no matter what our
Dialogue: 0,0:36:45.68,0:36:47.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,children think they should not be
Dialogue: 0,0:36:47.69,0:36:49.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,tortured they should have charges
Dialogue: 0,0:36:49.67,0:36:52.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,brought before them we should be able to
Dialogue: 0,0:36:52.43,0:36:56.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,see them visit them the movement and
Dialogue: 0,0:36:56.84,0:36:58.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,numbers of women whose children had
Dialogue: 0,0:36:58.61,0:37:01.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,disappeared grew and in their weekly
Dialogue: 0,0:37:01.36,0:37:03.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,demonstrations in those demonstrations
Dialogue: 0,0:37:03.71,0:37:05.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,some carried pictures of the missing
Dialogue: 0,0:37:05.93,0:37:08.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,children later they wore white scarves
Dialogue: 0,0:37:08.66,0:37:11.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to sell it to symbolize the white dove
Dialogue: 0,0:37:11.24,0:37:14.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of peace which they argued can unite all
Dialogue: 0,0:37:14.06,0:37:16.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,women and yet this movement was neither
Dialogue: 0,0:37:16.97,0:37:20.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,primarily identitarian nor maternal list
Dialogue: 0,0:37:20.54,0:37:23.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it opposed the brutality of the regime
Dialogue: 0,0:37:23.09,0:37:26.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and even when the regime finally fell in
Dialogue: 0,0:37:26.35,0:37:29.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,1983 they continued weekly and even
Dialogue: 0,0:37:29.96,0:37:32.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,continue now with other generations
Dialogue: 0,0:37:32.45,0:37:35.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,joining them to protest any forgetting
Dialogue: 0,0:37:35.30,0:37:37.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of that brutality and for trials that
Dialogue: 0,0:37:37.85,0:37:40.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,will bring all the torturers to justice
Dialogue: 0,0:37:40.72,0:37:42.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,suffering a moralization
Dialogue: 0,0:37:42.86,0:37:45.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and political resistance mark that
Dialogue: 0,0:37:45.59,0:37:48.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ongoing public demonstration and yet it
Dialogue: 0,0:37:48.86,0:37:51.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is also a demonstration that claimed
Dialogue: 0,0:37:51.53,0:37:54.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,public space when it was forbidden and
Dialogue: 0,0:37:54.29,0:37:57.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,claims it still maintaining it as a
Dialogue: 0,0:37:57.20,0:38:04.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,political right so I hope I am now able
Dialogue: 0,0:38:04.00,0:38:07.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to make clear at least two points about
Dialogue: 0,0:38:07.40,0:38:07.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Valle
Dialogue: 0,0:38:07.79,0:38:10.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ability that seek neither to idealize
Dialogue: 0,0:38:10.67,0:38:16.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,nor to discount its political importance
Dialogue: 0,0:38:17.92,0:38:20.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the first is that vulnerability cannot
Dialogue: 0,0:38:20.87,0:38:23.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,be associated exclusively with injure
Dialogue: 0,0:38:23.66,0:38:27.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ability that all responsiveness to what
Dialogue: 0,0:38:27.29,0:38:29.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,happens including the responsiveness of
Dialogue: 0,0:38:29.81,0:38:31.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,those who document the losses of the
Dialogue: 0,0:38:31.58,0:38:34.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,past is a function and effect of
Dialogue: 0,0:38:34.39,0:38:37.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,vulnerability of being open to a history
Dialogue: 0,0:38:37.58,0:38:40.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that is not told or being open to what
Dialogue: 0,0:38:40.22,0:38:43.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,another body undergoes we can say that
Dialogue: 0,0:38:43.52,0:38:45.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,these are matters of empathy but I want
Dialogue: 0,0:38:45.98,0:38:48.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to suggest that part of what a body does
Dialogue: 0,0:38:48.26,0:38:51.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to use the phrase of Delors derived from
Dialogue: 0,0:38:51.47,0:38:54.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,his reading of Spinoza is to open onto
Dialogue: 0,0:38:54.35,0:38:56.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the body of another or asset of others
Dialogue: 0,0:38:56.84,0:39:00.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and for that reason bodies are not self
Dialogue: 0,0:39:00.14,0:39:03.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,enclosed kinds of entities they are
Dialogue: 0,0:39:03.62,0:39:06.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,always in some sense outside themselves
Dialogue: 0,0:39:06.82,0:39:09.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,exploring or navigating their
Dialogue: 0,0:39:09.02,0:39:11.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,environment extended and even sometimes
Dialogue: 0,0:39:11.83,0:39:15.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,dispossessed through the senses if we
Dialogue: 0,0:39:15.50,0:39:18.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can become lost in another or if our
Dialogue: 0,0:39:18.62,0:39:22.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,tactile or visual or auditory capacities
Dialogue: 0,0:39:22.13,0:39:25.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,comport us beyond ourselves that is
Dialogue: 0,0:39:25.97,0:39:28.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because the body does not stay in its
Dialogue: 0,0:39:28.37,0:39:30.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,own place and because dispossession of
Dialogue: 0,0:39:30.92,0:39:34.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this kind characterizes bodily life more
Dialogue: 0,0:39:34.28,0:39:37.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,generally it is also why we have to
Dialogue: 0,0:39:37.22,0:39:40.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,speak sometimes about the regulation of
Dialogue: 0,0:39:40.01,0:39:43.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the senses as a political matter there
Dialogue: 0,0:39:43.43,0:39:45.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are certain photographs of injury or
Dialogue: 0,0:39:45.68,0:39:48.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,destruction of bodies in war that are
Dialogue: 0,0:39:48.32,0:39:50.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,often forbidden to be seen precisely
Dialogue: 0,0:39:50.99,0:39:53.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because there is a fear on the part of
Dialogue: 0,0:39:53.90,0:39:56.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the state that regulates such matters
Dialogue: 0,0:39:56.45,0:39:59.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that some body will feel something about
Dialogue: 0,0:39:59.51,0:40:02.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what those other bodies underwent or
Dialogue: 0,0:40:02.12,0:40:04.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that some body in its sensory
Dialogue: 0,0:40:04.82,0:40:07.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,comportment outside itself will not
Dialogue: 0,0:40:07.55,0:40:11.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,remain enclosed monadic and individual
Dialogue: 0,0:40:11.02,0:40:13.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,indeed we might ask what kind of
Dialogue: 0,0:40:13.70,0:40:16.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,regulation of the senses what I would
Dialogue: 0,0:40:16.55,0:40:18.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,call modes of ecstatic relationality
Dialogue: 0,0:40:18.71,0:40:20.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,might have to be regular
Dialogue: 0,0:40:20.75,0:40:22.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,related for individualism to be
Dialogue: 0,0:40:22.79,0:40:26.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,maintained as an ontology required for
Dialogue: 0,0:40:26.06,0:40:29.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,both economics and politics this is also
Dialogue: 0,0:40:29.24,0:40:30.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,why certain forms of public
Dialogue: 0,0:40:30.97,0:40:34.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,documentation in print and media in
Dialogue: 0,0:40:34.10,0:40:37.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,museums and art spaces or even the art
Dialogue: 0,0:40:37.40,0:40:40.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,space of the street become important in
Dialogue: 0,0:40:40.40,0:40:44.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the battle against historical oblivion
Dialogue: 0,0:40:44.50,0:40:47.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,my last point here is that the body can
Dialogue: 0,0:40:47.66,0:40:49.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and does become a site where the
Dialogue: 0,0:40:49.67,0:40:52.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,memories of others are transmitted no
Dialogue: 0,0:40:52.37,0:40:54.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,memory is preserved without a mode of
Dialogue: 0,0:40:54.38,0:40:57.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,transmission and the body is a point of
Dialogue: 0,0:40:57.17,0:40:59.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,transfer in which your history becomes
Dialogue: 0,0:40:59.69,0:41:02.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,mine or where your history passes
Dialogue: 0,0:41:02.24,0:41:05.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,through mine I do not have to experience
Dialogue: 0,0:41:05.24,0:41:08.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,your history history - to transmit
Dialogue: 0,0:41:08.00,0:41:10.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,something of your history the
Dialogue: 0,0:41:10.49,0:41:13.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,temporality of your life can and does
Dialogue: 0,0:41:13.10,0:41:16.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,cross my own and a certain operation of
Dialogue: 0,0:41:16.07,0:41:19.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,translation makes that possible one that
Dialogue: 0,0:41:19.73,0:41:22.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,does not purport to translate everything
Dialogue: 0,0:41:22.60,0:41:25.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it is also because we are or can be
Dialogue: 0,0:41:25.88,0:41:27.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,bound up with one another
Dialogue: 0,0:41:27.95,0:41:29.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is very different from being
Dialogue: 0,0:41:29.81,0:41:34.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,bounded as individual subjects thus the
Dialogue: 0,0:41:34.28,0:41:36.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,possibility of transmitting a memory
Dialogue: 0,0:41:36.53,0:41:38.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,under political threat the political
Dialogue: 0,0:41:38.84,0:41:41.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,threat of oblivion depends upon the
Dialogue: 0,0:41:41.51,0:41:44.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,transitivity of that memory its taking
Dialogue: 0,0:41:44.18,0:41:47.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,shape and exercising an effect on bodies
Dialogue: 0,0:41:47.06,0:41:49.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that were not there and could not be
Dialogue: 0,0:41:49.46,0:41:52.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there this is not the same as the kind
Dialogue: 0,0:41:52.01,0:41:53.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of testimony given by those who were
Dialogue: 0,0:41:53.90,0:41:57.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there but it does suggest that testimony
Dialogue: 0,0:41:57.05,0:42:00.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,depends upon transmission to survive in
Dialogue: 0,0:42:00.35,0:42:04.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,time thus we might see the ways that the
Dialogue: 0,0:42:04.04,0:42:06.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,memories of others arrive for us or even
Dialogue: 0,0:42:06.26,0:42:10.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in us as a mode of relationality we
Dialogue: 0,0:42:10.22,0:42:12.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,might further understand this capacity
Dialogue: 0,0:42:12.29,0:42:14.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to receive and convey what the other
Dialogue: 0,0:42:14.51,0:42:17.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,documents about history as a function of
Dialogue: 0,0:42:17.24,0:42:19.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,our own corporeal relatedness across
Dialogue: 0,0:42:19.91,0:42:22.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,time and space to those whose words we
Dialogue: 0,0:42:22.91,0:42:26.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,carry we carry them in ourselves those
Dialogue: 0,0:42:26.51,0:42:28.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,history become part those histories
Dialogue: 0,0:42:28.88,0:42:31.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,become part of who we are but we also
Dialogue: 0,0:42:31.49,0:42:34.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,carry them in spite of ourselves
Dialogue: 0,0:42:34.66,0:42:38.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so we're not just as bodies these
Dialogue: 0,0:42:38.06,0:42:41.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,spatial and bounded creatures we can
Dialogue: 0,0:42:41.06,0:42:44.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,never transcend that boundary completely
Dialogue: 0,0:42:44.06,0:42:47.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I agree but we are also the histories
Dialogue: 0,0:42:47.39,0:42:49.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we never lived but which we
Dialogue: 0,0:42:49.46,0:42:51.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,nevertheless transmit in the name of the
Dialogue: 0,0:42:51.62,0:42:53.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,struggle to preserve the history of the
Dialogue: 0,0:42:53.69,0:42:56.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,oppressed and to mobilize that history
Dialogue: 0,0:42:56.51,0:42:58.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in our struggle for justice in the
Dialogue: 0,0:42:58.46,0:43:01.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,present when for instance the Israeli
Dialogue: 0,0:43:01.94,0:43:03.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,government prohibits prohibits any
Dialogue: 0,0:43:03.80,0:43:06.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,mention or memorialization of the Nakba
Dialogue: 0,0:43:06.79,0:43:10.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the forcible dispossession of more than
Dialogue: 0,0:43:10.42,0:43:13.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,750,000 Palestinians from their homes in
Dialogue: 0,0:43:13.22,0:43:16.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,1948 often in the middle of their meals
Dialogue: 0,0:43:16.85,0:43:19.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or in the middle of their night with no
Dialogue: 0,0:43:19.22,0:43:22.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,warning and no justification in order to
Dialogue: 0,0:43:22.13,0:43:24.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,produce domiciles for Jewish citizens of
Dialogue: 0,0:43:24.65,0:43:27.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the new state what precisely are they
Dialogue: 0,0:43:27.53,0:43:30.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,doing they are surely seeking through
Dialogue: 0,0:43:30.77,0:43:33.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,passing a law to regulate memory to
Dialogue: 0,0:43:33.95,0:43:36.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,consign an historical and persisting
Dialogue: 0,0:43:36.44,0:43:38.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,form of dispossession and suffering to
Dialogue: 0,0:43:38.93,0:43:41.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,oblivion and to refuse the historically
Dialogue: 0,0:43:41.51,0:43:43.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,demonstrated link between the forcible
Dialogue: 0,0:43:43.91,0:43:46.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,dispossession of one people in order to
Dialogue: 0,0:43:46.49,0:43:49.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,produce a Liberatore narrative for
Dialogue: 0,0:43:49.07,0:43:52.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,founding a nation for another it would
Dialogue: 0,0:43:52.07,0:43:53.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,be one thing if the dispossession
Dialogue: 0,0:43:53.81,0:43:56.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,happened once but it inaugurated forms
Dialogue: 0,0:43:56.75,0:43:58.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of land confiscation and transfer that
Dialogue: 0,0:43:58.91,0:44:01.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,happened continually and as we see in
Dialogue: 0,0:44:01.82,0:44:03.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the expansion and legalization of the
Dialogue: 0,0:44:03.74,0:44:06.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,illegal of the illegal settlements
Dialogue: 0,0:44:06.41,0:44:08.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,indeed all their settlements are illegal
Dialogue: 0,0:44:08.81,0:44:11.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the redrawing of territorial lines and
Dialogue: 0,0:44:11.75,0:44:14.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the new demands for loyalty oaths on the
Dialogue: 0,0:44:14.36,0:44:16.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,part of Palestinians to Israel as a
Dialogue: 0,0:44:16.40,0:44:19.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Jewish nation and even in in the now
Dialogue: 0,0:44:19.64,0:44:22.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,very public debate about transferring
Dialogue: 0,0:44:22.16,0:44:24.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,those Palestinians who still live within
Dialogue: 0,0:44:24.32,0:44:26.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the boundaries of Israel to the occupied
Dialogue: 0,0:44:26.93,0:44:30.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,territories of course there are many
Dialogue: 0,0:44:30.32,0:44:32.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,different histories to be told here and
Dialogue: 0,0:44:32.45,0:44:35.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I cannot do justice to that to any of
Dialogue: 0,0:44:35.63,0:44:38.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,them this evening but what I want to
Dialogue: 0,0:44:38.81,0:44:41.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,suggest in a more modest way is that in
Dialogue: 0,0:44:41.96,0:44:44.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all of these struggles the body is
Dialogue: 0,0:44:44.06,0:44:46.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,central as it is central
Dialogue: 0,0:44:46.69,0:44:51.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the fight for the history of the
Dialogue: 0,0:44:51.28,0:44:54.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,oppressed the fight against oblivion
Dialogue: 0,0:44:54.21,0:44:56.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what has happened to bodies is being
Dialogue: 0,0:44:56.77,0:44:58.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,transmitted through various media and
Dialogue: 0,0:44:58.75,0:45:01.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,those who openly struggle against the
Dialogue: 0,0:45:01.03,0:45:03.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,faced past are themselves in a bodily
Dialogue: 0,0:45:03.28,0:45:05.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,position of vulnerability being
Dialogue: 0,0:45:05.98,0:45:08.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,impressed upon by a history and in this
Dialogue: 0,0:45:08.32,0:45:11.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sense being outside themselves even in
Dialogue: 0,0:45:11.02,0:45:13.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,spite of themselves as they carry what
Dialogue: 0,0:45:13.51,0:45:16.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,belongs to others no history can be
Dialogue: 0,0:45:16.39,0:45:18.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,inscribed on a body or conveyed through
Dialogue: 0,0:45:18.79,0:45:22.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it without vulnerability an inscription
Dialogue: 0,0:45:22.24,0:45:25.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,makes the body bend cave suffer and
Dialogue: 0,0:45:25.90,0:45:29.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,respond even take new form in light of
Dialogue: 0,0:45:29.08,0:45:32.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that pressure the body then is not is to
Dialogue: 0,0:45:32.77,0:45:34.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,be thought not as substance and
Dialogue: 0,0:45:34.72,0:45:38.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,enclosure but perhaps as site of injury
Dialogue: 0,0:45:38.14,0:45:41.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ability receptivity passionate exposure
Dialogue: 0,0:45:41.74,0:45:46.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,even ethical transport so I propose to
Dialogue: 0,0:45:46.96,0:45:48.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,return now to the question of
Dialogue: 0,0:45:48.64,0:45:51.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,vulnerability and to understand what
Dialogue: 0,0:45:51.25,0:45:53.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,relation it might have to contemporary
Dialogue: 0,0:45:53.74,0:45:56.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,coalition's and how the body figures
Dialogue: 0,0:45:56.29,0:45:59.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,prominently in any idea of coalition we
Dialogue: 0,0:45:59.47,0:46:02.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,may imagine for the present although we
Dialogue: 0,0:46:02.50,0:46:04.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,often speak this way I do not think we
Dialogue: 0,0:46:04.78,0:46:07.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can consider vulnerability as a purely
Dialogue: 0,0:46:07.78,0:46:11.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,contingent circumstance of course it's
Dialogue: 0,0:46:11.26,0:46:13.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,always possible to say oh I was
Dialogue: 0,0:46:13.66,0:46:15.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,vulnerable then but I'm not vulnerable
Dialogue: 0,0:46:15.79,0:46:18.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,anymore sometimes that's even true and
Dialogue: 0,0:46:18.97,0:46:21.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we say that in relation to specific
Dialogue: 0,0:46:21.27,0:46:23.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,situations in which we felt ourselves to
Dialogue: 0,0:46:23.98,0:46:26.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,be at risk or enjoyable they can be
Dialogue: 0,0:46:26.86,0:46:29.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,economic or financial situations when we
Dialogue: 0,0:46:29.89,0:46:32.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,feel that we might be exploited lose
Dialogue: 0,0:46:32.23,0:46:34.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,work find ourselves in conditions of
Dialogue: 0,0:46:34.69,0:46:37.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,poverty or they can be emotional
Dialogue: 0,0:46:37.09,0:46:39.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,situations certainly the political ones
Dialogue: 0,0:46:39.49,0:46:41.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are emotional or the economic ones are
Dialogue: 0,0:46:41.17,0:46:43.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,deeply emotional to in which we are very
Dialogue: 0,0:46:43.90,0:46:46.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,much vulnerable to rejection but later
Dialogue: 0,0:46:46.27,0:46:47.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,find that we have lost that
Dialogue: 0,0:46:47.47,0:46:50.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,vulnerability it makes sense that we
Dialogue: 0,0:46:50.41,0:46:53.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,speak this way vulnerability seems
Dialogue: 0,0:46:53.28,0:46:57.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,episodic it also makes sense that we
Dialogue: 0,0:46:57.01,0:46:59.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,treat with caution the seductions of
Dialogue: 0,0:46:59.47,0:47:00.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ordinary just
Dialogue: 0,0:47:00.37,0:47:03.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,course at such moments since though we
Dialogue: 0,0:47:03.55,0:47:05.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,may feel that we are vulnerable in some
Dialogue: 0,0:47:05.41,0:47:07.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,instances and not in others the
Dialogue: 0,0:47:07.57,0:47:10.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,condition of our vulnerability is itself
Dialogue: 0,0:47:10.27,0:47:13.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not precisely changeable at most there
Dialogue: 0,0:47:13.48,0:47:15.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are times when our vulnerability becomes
Dialogue: 0,0:47:15.37,0:47:17.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,apparent to us but that is not the same
Dialogue: 0,0:47:17.86,0:47:20.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as saying that we are only vulnerable at
Dialogue: 0,0:47:20.17,0:47:23.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,those times we can be vulnerable without
Dialogue: 0,0:47:23.05,0:47:25.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,knowing it and indeed that not knowing
Dialogue: 0,0:47:25.57,0:47:29.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it is part of vulnerability itself
Dialogue: 0,0:47:29.31,0:47:31.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,vulnerability cannot be understood
Dialogue: 0,0:47:31.66,0:47:34.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,restrictive ly as an effect restricted
Dialogue: 0,0:47:34.33,0:47:37.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to a contingent situation nor can it be
Dialogue: 0,0:47:37.09,0:47:38.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,understood merely as a subjective
Dialogue: 0,0:47:38.100,0:47:42.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,disposition as a condition that is I
Dialogue: 0,0:47:42.13,0:47:44.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,would suggest coextensive with human
Dialogue: 0,0:47:44.74,0:47:47.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,life understood a social life understood
Dialogue: 0,0:47:47.65,0:47:50.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as creaturely life and is bound to the
Dialogue: 0,0:47:50.23,0:47:53.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,problem of precarity vulnerability is
Dialogue: 0,0:47:53.05,0:47:55.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the name for a certain way of opening
Dialogue: 0,0:47:55.12,0:47:57.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,onto the world in this sense it's not
Dialogue: 0,0:47:57.58,0:48:00.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know not only designates a relation
Dialogue: 0,0:48:00.04,0:48:02.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the world but it asserts our very
Dialogue: 0,0:48:02.20,0:48:05.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,existence as a relational one to say
Dialogue: 0,0:48:05.65,0:48:08.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that any of us are vulnerable beings is
Dialogue: 0,0:48:08.11,0:48:11.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to establish our radical dependency not
Dialogue: 0,0:48:11.92,0:48:14.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,only on others but on a sustaining
Dialogue: 0,0:48:14.65,0:48:17.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sustainable world this has implications
Dialogue: 0,0:48:17.71,0:48:20.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for understanding who we are as
Dialogue: 0,0:48:20.41,0:48:23.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,passionate beings as sexual as bound up
Dialogue: 0,0:48:23.56,0:48:26.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with others of necessity but also as
Dialogue: 0,0:48:26.56,0:48:28.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,beings who seek to persist and whose
Dialogue: 0,0:48:28.93,0:48:32.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,persistence can and is can be and is
Dialogue: 0,0:48:32.55,0:48:34.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,imperiled when social economic and
Dialogue: 0,0:48:34.99,0:48:40.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,political structures exploit or fail us
Dialogue: 0,0:48:40.02,0:48:42.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,drawing on the work of Hannah Arendt
Dialogue: 0,0:48:42.16,0:48:44.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,adriana cavarero the italian philosopher
Dialogue: 0,0:48:44.82,0:48:47.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,tells us that one of the key moments of
Dialogue: 0,0:48:47.35,0:48:50.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,politics what we might even identify as
Dialogue: 0,0:48:50.47,0:48:53.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,its constitutive ethical moment is the
Dialogue: 0,0:48:53.32,0:48:57.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,emergence of the question who are you we
Dialogue: 0,0:48:57.37,0:48:59.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,asked this question implicitly or
Dialogue: 0,0:48:59.44,0:49:02.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,explicitly when we seek to bring a
Dialogue: 0,0:49:02.26,0:49:04.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,population into discourse or establish a
Dialogue: 0,0:49:04.96,0:49:07.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,language of representation it's not
Dialogue: 0,0:49:07.54,0:49:10.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,necessarily a single person who poses
Dialogue: 0,0:49:10.30,0:49:13.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this question an institution a dis
Dialogue: 0,0:49:13.19,0:49:16.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,course an economic system that asks who
Dialogue: 0,0:49:16.40,0:49:17.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are you
Dialogue: 0,0:49:17.33,0:49:19.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,seeks to establish a space of appearance
Dialogue: 0,0:49:19.97,0:49:23.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for the other to ask who are you is to
Dialogue: 0,0:49:23.42,0:49:25.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,avow that one does not know in advance
Dialogue: 0,0:49:25.43,0:49:28.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who you are that one is open to what
Dialogue: 0,0:49:28.01,0:49:30.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,comes from the other and that one
Dialogue: 0,0:49:30.05,0:49:32.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,expects that no pre-established category
Dialogue: 0,0:49:32.69,0:49:36.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,will be able to answer in advance the
Dialogue: 0,0:49:36.08,0:49:38.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,question that is posed indeed I would
Dialogue: 0,0:49:38.60,0:49:41.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,suggest in a certain of a nasty way the
Dialogue: 0,0:49:41.87,0:49:44.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,question who are you has to remain an
Dialogue: 0,0:49:44.27,0:49:47.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,infinitely open question unanswerable in
Dialogue: 0,0:49:47.57,0:49:52.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,order to remain an ethical one it will
Dialogue: 0,0:49:52.10,0:49:54.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,be important to keep active the
Dialogue: 0,0:49:54.23,0:49:56.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,relationship between the various
Dialogue: 0,0:49:56.36,0:49:59.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,meanings of the precarious if we are to
Dialogue: 0,0:49:59.42,0:50:02.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,think how vulnerable 'ti relates to
Dialogue: 0,0:50:02.30,0:50:05.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,coalition during this time
Dialogue: 0,0:50:05.23,0:50:07.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,precariousness is a function of our
Dialogue: 0,0:50:07.49,0:50:10.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,social vulnerability the condition of
Dialogue: 0,0:50:10.01,0:50:12.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,our exposure that always assumes some
Dialogue: 0,0:50:12.50,0:50:15.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,political form precarity is
Dialogue: 0,0:50:15.16,0:50:17.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,differentially distributed and so one
Dialogue: 0,0:50:17.63,0:50:19.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,important dimension of the unequal
Dialogue: 0,0:50:19.73,0:50:23.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,distribution of conditions required for
Dialogue: 0,0:50:23.45,0:50:27.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a livable life precariat ization is also
Dialogue: 0,0:50:27.68,0:50:30.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,an ongoing process as Isabel Isabel
Dialogue: 0,0:50:30.47,0:50:33.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Laurie has argued precariat ization
Dialogue: 0,0:50:33.23,0:50:35.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,allows us to think about what Lauryn
Dialogue: 0,0:50:35.87,0:50:38.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Berlin has called the slow death
Dialogue: 0,0:50:38.21,0:50:40.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,undergone by targeted or neglected
Dialogue: 0,0:50:40.70,0:50:42.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,populations under conditions of
Dialogue: 0,0:50:42.92,0:50:46.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,neoliberalism and it is surely a form of
Dialogue: 0,0:50:46.31,0:50:48.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,power without a subject prokaryote
Dialogue: 0,0:50:48.62,0:50:51.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ization which is to say that there is no
Dialogue: 0,0:50:51.11,0:50:53.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one Center which propels its direction
Dialogue: 0,0:50:53.27,0:50:57.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and force of destruction if we only
Dialogue: 0,0:50:57.26,0:50:59.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,considered the term precariat ization
Dialogue: 0,0:50:59.45,0:51:01.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm not sure we could account for the
Dialogue: 0,0:51:01.70,0:51:03.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,structure of effect that is named by
Dialogue: 0,0:51:03.86,0:51:06.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,precarity and if we decided to rally
Dialogue: 0,0:51:06.83,0:51:09.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,under the name of the precarious as a
Dialogue: 0,0:51:09.35,0:51:13.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,new identity or community formation we
Dialogue: 0,0:51:13.13,0:51:15.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,might then be we might then draw
Dialogue: 0,0:51:15.89,0:51:18.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,attention away from the globally
Dialogue: 0,0:51:18.41,0:51:20.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,specific ways that precarity has lived
Dialogue: 0,0:51:20.69,0:51:23.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as a social political condition cloaking
Dialogue: 0,0:51:23.99,0:51:26.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,some way that form of power
Dialogue: 0,0:51:26.93,0:51:30.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,works so maybe precarious is what we
Dialogue: 0,0:51:30.68,0:51:33.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,feel or would rather not feel and then
Dialogue: 0,0:51:33.71,0:51:35.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,its analysis has to be linked to the
Dialogue: 0,0:51:35.57,0:51:38.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,impetus to become impermeable as so
Dialogue: 0,0:51:38.87,0:51:41.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,often happens within the discourse of
Dialogue: 0,0:51:41.00,0:51:43.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,military nationalism and the rhetoric of
Dialogue: 0,0:51:43.46,0:51:46.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,security and self-defense and yet it
Dialogue: 0,0:51:46.61,0:51:49.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,will be important to call precarious
Dialogue: 0,0:51:49.07,0:51:51.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,those bonds that support forms of life
Dialogue: 0,0:51:51.86,0:51:54.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,those that should be structured by the
Dialogue: 0,0:51:54.17,0:51:56.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,condition of mutual need and exposure
Dialogue: 0,0:51:56.42,0:51:59.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that bring us to forms of political
Dialogue: 0,0:51:59.60,0:52:02.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,organization that sustain living beings
Dialogue: 0,0:52:02.18,0:52:05.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on terms of equality or at least dispose
Dialogue: 0,0:52:05.45,0:52:08.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,them toward equality as an ideal worth
Dialogue: 0,0:52:08.75,0:52:12.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,struggling for what seems finally more
Dialogue: 0,0:52:12.08,0:52:14.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,important than any form of existential
Dialogue: 0,0:52:14.18,0:52:18.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,individualism is the idea that a bond is
Dialogue: 0,0:52:18.02,0:52:21.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,flawed or afraid or that it is lost or
Dialogue: 0,0:52:21.55,0:52:24.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,irrecoverable and we see this I think
Dialogue: 0,0:52:24.23,0:52:28.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,very prominently when for instance the
Dialogue: 0,0:52:28.07,0:52:30.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Tea Party politicians in the United
Dialogue: 0,0:52:30.83,0:52:37.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,States overtly rejoice over rejoice
Dialogue: 0,0:52:37.22,0:52:39.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about the idea that individuals who have
Dialogue: 0,0:52:39.62,0:52:41.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,failed to take responsibility for their
Dialogue: 0,0:52:41.93,0:52:44.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,own health care may well face death and
Dialogue: 0,0:52:44.93,0:52:47.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,disease as a result apparently this was
Dialogue: 0,0:52:47.72,0:52:50.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this was mentioned at a at a tea party
Dialogue: 0,0:52:50.92,0:52:54.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,congregation people who don't take
Dialogue: 0,0:52:54.53,0:52:56.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,responsibility for their own health care
Dialogue: 0,0:52:56.54,0:52:58.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,will face death and disease as a
Dialogue: 0,0:52:58.97,0:53:00.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,consequence of their lack of
Dialogue: 0,0:53:00.44,0:53:03.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,responsibility and the group rose up and
Dialogue: 0,0:53:03.55,0:53:07.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,clapped joyously joyous clapping
Dialogue: 0,0:53:07.37,0:53:11.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,rejoicing rejoicing we have to think
Dialogue: 0,0:53:11.12,0:53:13.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about that particular effect may be the
Dialogue: 0,0:53:13.64,0:53:17.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,effect studies people will help us
Dialogue: 0,0:53:18.22,0:53:21.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,okay at such moments I want to say I
Dialogue: 0,0:53:21.49,0:53:25.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,want to say at such moments a social
Dialogue: 0,0:53:25.61,0:53:28.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,bond has been cut or destroyed in ways
Dialogue: 0,0:53:28.70,0:53:33.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that deny a shared precariousness the
Dialogue: 0,0:53:33.62,0:53:36.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,very particular ethos and politics that
Dialogue: 0,0:53:36.08,0:53:41.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ideally should follow from from that is
Dialogue: 0,0:53:41.00,0:53:44.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one that underscores local and global
Dialogue: 0,0:53:44.51,0:53:47.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,interdependence II and actively resists
Dialogue: 0,0:53:47.75,0:53:49.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the radical radically unequal
Dialogue: 0,0:53:49.88,0:53:52.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,distribution of precarity and grieve
Dialogue: 0,0:53:52.49,0:53:55.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ability okay so it's I mean of course
Dialogue: 0,0:53:55.34,0:53:58.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yes we need to think about sadistic
Dialogue: 0,0:53:58.70,0:54:01.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,forms of joy at the thought of other
Dialogue: 0,0:54:01.04,0:54:03.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people lacking healthcare and dying as a
Dialogue: 0,0:54:03.56,0:54:06.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,consequence but but what we really need
Dialogue: 0,0:54:06.26,0:54:09.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to see I think in that moment is that
Dialogue: 0,0:54:09.04,0:54:12.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the precarity of the one who takes that
Dialogue: 0,0:54:12.23,0:54:15.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sadistic joy is also denied as well as
Dialogue: 0,0:54:15.11,0:54:17.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the bond the the bond of interdependency
Dialogue: 0,0:54:17.93,0:54:20.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with the one whose death is being
Dialogue: 0,0:54:20.60,0:54:25.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,joyously imagined such a struggle would
Dialogue: 0,0:54:25.22,0:54:27.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,be at once opposed to forms of security
Dialogue: 0,0:54:27.59,0:54:30.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,rien logics as well as the old and new
Dialogue: 0,0:54:30.20,0:54:32.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,paternalism that are now linked to the
Dialogue: 0,0:54:32.18,0:54:35.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,promise of security but this resistance
Dialogue: 0,0:54:35.15,0:54:37.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can happen only if modes of coalition
Dialogue: 0,0:54:37.33,0:54:42.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,grounded in interdependency the in the
Dialogue: 0,0:54:42.50,0:54:44.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,stem struggles against precarity and for
Dialogue: 0,0:54:44.99,0:54:48.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,equality exercised power in ways that
Dialogue: 0,0:54:48.23,0:54:51.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,break with the lure of paternalism this
Dialogue: 0,0:54:51.95,0:54:54.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,cannot mean refusing all forms of state
Dialogue: 0,0:54:54.26,0:54:56.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and institutional support that form of
Dialogue: 0,0:54:56.99,0:54:58.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,anti institutional politics
Dialogue: 0,0:54:58.76,0:55:00.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,unfortunately allows with the
Dialogue: 0,0:55:00.77,0:55:02.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,destruction of social democratic goods
Dialogue: 0,0:55:02.81,0:55:05.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the idea of economic rights and
Dialogue: 0,0:55:05.27,0:55:07.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,these forms of destruction the
Dialogue: 0,0:55:07.43,0:55:09.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,destruction of those goods and rights
Dialogue: 0,0:55:09.47,0:55:11.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are precisely those that are being of
Dialogue: 0,0:55:11.96,0:55:15.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,course undertaken and produced by
Dialogue: 0,0:55:15.08,0:55:17.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,neoliberalism and secured terian
Dialogue: 0,0:55:17.30,0:55:20.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,politics alike so yes one must struggle
Dialogue: 0,0:55:20.57,0:55:24.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for social democracy but in the context
Dialogue: 0,0:55:24.32,0:55:26.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I would suggest of a radical Democratic
Dialogue: 0,0:55:26.90,0:55:28.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,politics and they are
Dialogue: 0,0:55:28.72,0:55:30.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,friend we cannot presume that
Dialogue: 0,0:55:30.70,0:55:33.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,interdependency is some beautiful state
Dialogue: 0,0:55:33.13,0:55:35.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of coexistence it's not the same as
Dialogue: 0,0:55:35.53,0:55:36.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,social harmony
Dialogue: 0,0:55:36.66,0:55:39.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,inevitably we rail against those on whom
Dialogue: 0,0:55:39.64,0:55:42.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we are most dependent and there is no
Dialogue: 0,0:55:42.40,0:55:44.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,way to dissociate dependency from
Dialogue: 0,0:55:44.86,0:55:48.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,aggression once and for all these may
Dialogue: 0,0:55:48.31,0:55:51.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not even be happy alliances or or
Dialogue: 0,0:55:51.64,0:55:54.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,particularly joyous coalition's but they
Dialogue: 0,0:55:54.40,0:55:57.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are constituted from the insight I would
Dialogue: 0,0:55:57.49,0:56:01.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,say the insight from the from the from
Dialogue: 0,0:56:01.18,0:56:05.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,look from the condition of a pre
Dialogue: 0,0:56:05.08,0:56:07.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,contractual set of relations that
Dialogue: 0,0:56:07.69,0:56:10.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,pertain to social embodiment we require
Dialogue: 0,0:56:10.81,0:56:13.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one another to live this means that our
Dialogue: 0,0:56:13.63,0:56:16.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,survival and well-being both are
Dialogue: 0,0:56:16.99,0:56:19.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,invariably negotiated in the social
Dialogue: 0,0:56:19.69,0:56:22.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,economic and political spheres indeed
Dialogue: 0,0:56:22.93,0:56:25.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,our negotiations are the very sites
Dialogue: 0,0:56:25.06,0:56:27.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where those spheres converge and lose
Dialogue: 0,0:56:27.49,0:56:30.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,their distinctness we can make this idea
Dialogue: 0,0:56:30.97,0:56:33.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,popular by seeking recourse to broad
Dialogue: 0,0:56:33.73,0:56:36.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,existential and humanist claims well
Dialogue: 0,0:56:36.16,0:56:39.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,everyone is precarious but once we ask
Dialogue: 0,0:56:39.19,0:56:41.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about what this means or what forms
Dialogue: 0,0:56:41.59,0:56:44.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,precarity assumes we see that we have
Dialogue: 0,0:56:44.83,0:56:46.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from the start left the existential
Dialogue: 0,0:56:46.72,0:56:49.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,domain to consider our social existence
Dialogue: 0,0:56:49.54,0:56:51.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as bodily beings who depend upon one
Dialogue: 0,0:56:51.88,0:56:54.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,another for shelter and sustenance and
Dialogue: 0,0:56:54.28,0:56:56.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who therefore are at risk of
Dialogue: 0,0:56:56.61,0:56:58.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,statelessness homelessness and
Dialogue: 0,0:56:58.90,0:57:01.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,destitution under unjust and unequal
Dialogue: 0,0:57:01.86,0:57:04.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,political conditions in other words
Dialogue: 0,0:57:04.66,0:57:07.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,precarious defines our existence as
Dialogue: 0,0:57:07.84,0:57:10.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,political beings our survival depends
Dialogue: 0,0:57:10.96,0:57:13.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,upon political arrangements and politics
Dialogue: 0,0:57:13.81,0:57:16.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,especially as it becomes bio politics
Dialogue: 0,0:57:16.87,0:57:19.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the managing of populations is
Dialogue: 0,0:57:19.15,0:57:21.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,concerned with the question of whose
Dialogue: 0,0:57:21.64,0:57:23.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,lives will be preserved protected and
Dialogue: 0,0:57:23.95,0:57:26.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,valued and eventually mourned or
Dialogue: 0,0:57:26.35,0:57:29.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,regarded in advance as potentially more
Dialogue: 0,0:57:29.17,0:57:32.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,noble and whose lives will be considered
Dialogue: 0,0:57:32.13,0:57:35.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,disposable and unbreathing all in this
Dialogue: 0,0:57:35.29,0:57:38.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,way our precarity is to a large extent
Dialogue: 0,0:57:38.07,0:57:40.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,dependent upon the organization of
Dialogue: 0,0:57:40.36,0:57:41.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,economic and
Dialogue: 0,0:57:41.20,0:57:43.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,social relations the presence or absence
Dialogue: 0,0:57:43.66,0:57:46.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of sustaining infrastructures and social
Dialogue: 0,0:57:46.87,0:57:49.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and political institutions modes of
Dialogue: 0,0:57:49.51,0:57:51.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,struggling for them that produce and
Dialogue: 0,0:57:51.82,0:57:56.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sustain alliances so what I'm trying to
Dialogue: 0,0:57:56.32,0:57:58.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,suggest is that precarity is indecisive
Dialogue: 0,0:57:58.81,0:58:01.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all form that dimension of politics that
Dialogue: 0,0:58:01.51,0:58:03.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,addresses the organization and
Dialogue: 0,0:58:03.31,0:58:06.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,protection of bodily needs precarity
Dialogue: 0,0:58:06.55,0:58:09.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,exposes our sociality the fragile and
Dialogue: 0,0:58:09.85,0:58:11.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,necessary dimensions of our
Dialogue: 0,0:58:11.23,0:58:13.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,interdependency and this has
Dialogue: 0,0:58:13.45,0:58:15.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,implications for how we join together in
Dialogue: 0,0:58:15.70,0:58:18.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,struggle when we do no one escapes the
Dialogue: 0,0:58:18.94,0:58:21.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,precarious dimension of social life that
Dialogue: 0,0:58:21.22,0:58:23.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is we might say our common
Dialogue: 0,0:58:23.86,0:58:27.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,non-foundation indeed nothing founds us
Dialogue: 0,0:58:27.70,0:58:30.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,outside of a struggle to establish those
Dialogue: 0,0:58:30.88,0:58:35.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,bonds by which we are sustained so when
Dialogue: 0,0:58:35.41,0:58:37.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people take to the streets together they
Dialogue: 0,0:58:37.33,0:58:39.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,form something of a body politic and
Dialogue: 0,0:58:39.94,0:58:42.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,even if that body politic does not speak
Dialogue: 0,0:58:42.76,0:58:45.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in a single voice even when it does not
Dialogue: 0,0:58:45.07,0:58:48.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,speak at all or make any claims it still
Dialogue: 0,0:58:48.16,0:58:51.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,forms asserting its presence as a plural
Dialogue: 0,0:58:51.46,0:58:55.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and obdurate bodily life what is the
Dialogue: 0,0:58:55.63,0:58:57.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,political significance of assembling as
Dialogue: 0,0:58:57.85,0:59:00.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,bodies stopping traffic or claiming
Dialogue: 0,0:59:00.07,0:59:02.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,attention or moving not as stray and
Dialogue: 0,0:59:02.89,0:59:05.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,separate individuals but as a social
Dialogue: 0,0:59:05.41,0:59:08.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,movement of some kind it does not have
Dialogue: 0,0:59:08.35,0:59:10.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to be organized from on high the
Dialogue: 0,0:59:10.84,0:59:13.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Leninist presumption and it does not
Dialogue: 0,0:59:13.06,0:59:15.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,need to have a single message the logo
Dialogue: 0,0:59:15.61,0:59:19.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,centric can seat 4 assembled bodies to
Dialogue: 0,0:59:19.09,0:59:22.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,exercise a certain performative force in
Dialogue: 0,0:59:22.27,0:59:26.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the public domain the we are here that
Dialogue: 0,0:59:26.62,0:59:29.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,translates that collective bodily
Dialogue: 0,0:59:29.23,0:59:32.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,presence might be read as we are still
Dialogue: 0,0:59:32.20,0:59:34.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,here meaning we have not yet been
Dialogue: 0,0:59:34.93,0:59:38.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,disposed of such bodies are precarious
Dialogue: 0,0:59:38.23,0:59:40.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and persisting which is why I think we
Dialogue: 0,0:59:40.81,0:59:43.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have always to link precarity with forms
Dialogue: 0,0:59:43.51,0:59:46.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of social and political agency where
Dialogue: 0,0:59:46.03,0:59:48.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that is possible when the bodies of
Dialogue: 0,0:59:48.85,0:59:51.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,those deemed disposable assemble into
Dialogue: 0,0:59:51.01,0:59:53.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,public view they are saying
Dialogue: 0,0:59:53.14,0:59:55.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we have not slipped quietly into the
Dialogue: 0,0:59:55.24,0:59:57.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,shadows of public life we have not
Dialogue: 0,0:59:57.46,0:59:59.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,become the glaring absence that
Dialogue: 0,0:59:59.35,1:00:02.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,structures your ordinary life in a way
Dialogue: 0,1:00:02.68,1:00:04.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the collective assembling of bodies is
Dialogue: 0,1:00:04.69,1:00:07.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,an exercise of the popular will and a
Dialogue: 0,1:00:07.54,1:00:10.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,way of asserting in corporeal form one
Dialogue: 0,1:00:10.45,1:00:12.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the most basic presuppositions of
Dialogue: 0,1:00:12.64,1:00:15.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,democracy namely that political and
Dialogue: 0,1:00:15.04,1:00:17.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,public institutions are bound to
Dialogue: 0,1:00:17.38,1:00:19.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,represent the people and to do so in
Dialogue: 0,1:00:19.90,1:00:22.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ways that establish equality as a
Dialogue: 0,1:00:22.20,1:00:24.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,presupposition of social and political
Dialogue: 0,1:00:24.55,1:00:28.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,existence so when those institutions
Dialogue: 0,1:00:28.18,1:00:31.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,become structured in ways in such a way
Dialogue: 0,1:00:31.87,1:00:33.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that certain populations become
Dialogue: 0,1:00:33.94,1:00:37.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,disposable or are interpolated as
Dialogue: 0,1:00:37.54,1:00:40.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,disposable deprived of a future of
Dialogue: 0,1:00:40.18,1:00:42.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Education of stable and fulfilling work
Dialogue: 0,1:00:42.34,1:00:44.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of even knowing what space one can call
Dialogue: 0,1:00:44.92,1:00:47.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a home then surely the Assemblies
Dialogue: 0,1:00:47.44,1:00:49.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,fulfill another function not only the
Dialogue: 0,1:00:49.93,1:00:52.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,expression of justifiable rage but the
Dialogue: 0,1:00:52.99,1:00:55.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,assertion in their very social
Dialogue: 0,1:00:55.09,1:00:57.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,organization of principles of equality
Dialogue: 0,1:00:57.43,1:01:02.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the midst of precarity I am aware
Dialogue: 0,1:01:02.32,1:01:04.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that the fate of the Egyptian revolution
Dialogue: 0,1:01:04.12,1:01:06.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,remains uncertain and sometimes
Dialogue: 0,1:01:06.70,1:01:09.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,extremely dispiriting especially as the
Dialogue: 0,1:01:09.70,1:01:11.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,transitional military government refuses
Dialogue: 0,1:01:11.86,1:01:14.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to honor its deadlines for ceding to
Dialogue: 0,1:01:14.59,1:01:17.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,civil rule even in the midst of our
Dialogue: 0,1:01:17.29,1:01:19.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,elections whether the elections we're
Dialogue: 0,1:01:19.45,1:01:20.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,seeing right now
Dialogue: 0,1:01:20.23,1:01:22.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,indeed it continues to unleash its
Dialogue: 0,1:01:22.72,1:01:25.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,police force on demonstrators and retain
Dialogue: 0,1:01:25.33,1:01:28.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,power over who may or may not run for
Dialogue: 0,1:01:28.21,1:01:30.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,election who may or may not be accepted
Dialogue: 0,1:01:30.88,1:01:33.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as elected I want to underscore
Dialogue: 0,1:01:33.70,1:01:35.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,nevertheless two aspects of the
Dialogue: 0,1:01:35.98,1:01:38.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,revolutionary demonstrations in Tahrir
Dialogue: 0,1:01:38.20,1:01:40.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Square that emerged so clearly in the
Dialogue: 0,1:01:40.63,1:01:42.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,winter before last and which still
Dialogue: 0,1:01:42.79,1:01:45.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,despite all odds continue to this day
Dialogue: 0,1:01:45.45,1:01:48.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the first has to do with the way a
Dialogue: 0,1:01:48.25,1:01:50.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,certain sociability was established
Dialogue: 0,1:01:50.44,1:01:52.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,within the square a division of labor
Dialogue: 0,1:01:52.42,1:01:55.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that broke down gender difference that
Dialogue: 0,1:01:55.15,1:01:57.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,involved rotating who would speak and
Dialogue: 0,1:01:57.07,1:01:58.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who would clean the areas where people
Dialogue: 0,1:01:58.54,1:02:00.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,slept in eight developing a work
Dialogue: 0,1:02:00.97,1:02:02.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,schedule for everyone to maintain the
Dialogue: 0,1:02:02.89,1:02:04.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,environment and to clean the toy
Dialogue: 0,1:02:04.59,1:02:07.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in short what some would call horizontal
Dialogue: 0,1:02:07.89,1:02:10.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,relations among the protesters formed
Dialogue: 0,1:02:10.67,1:02:13.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,methodically and even easily introducing
Dialogue: 0,1:02:13.53,1:02:15.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,relations of equality into the very form
Dialogue: 0,1:02:15.87,1:02:18.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of resistance those included an equal
Dialogue: 0,1:02:18.72,1:02:20.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,division of labor between the sexes and
Dialogue: 0,1:02:20.79,1:02:23.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,became part of the very resistance to
Dialogue: 0,1:02:23.10,1:02:25.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Mubarak regime and its entrenched
Dialogue: 0,1:02:25.32,1:02:27.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hierarchies including the extraordinary
Dialogue: 0,1:02:27.57,1:02:29.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,differentials of wealth between the
Dialogue: 0,1:02:29.58,1:02:31.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,military and corporate sponsors of the
Dialogue: 0,1:02:31.35,1:02:34.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,regime and the working people and those
Dialogue: 0,1:02:34.05,1:02:36.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,subject to the violence of police forces
Dialogue: 0,1:02:36.09,1:02:39.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and to the belt Ageha hired thugs that
Dialogue: 0,1:02:39.27,1:02:41.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,do the government's dirty work
Dialogue: 0,1:02:41.30,1:02:43.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so the social form of the resistance
Dialogue: 0,1:02:43.89,1:02:45.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,began to incorporate principles of
Dialogue: 0,1:02:45.72,1:02:48.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,equality that governed not only how and
Dialogue: 0,1:02:48.45,1:02:50.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when people spoken acted for the media
Dialogue: 0,1:02:50.70,1:02:53.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and against the regime but how people
Dialogue: 0,1:02:53.01,1:02:54.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,cared for their very their various
Dialogue: 0,1:02:54.78,1:02:57.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,quarters within the square the beds on
Dialogue: 0,1:02:57.24,1:02:59.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,pavement the makeshift medical stations
Dialogue: 0,1:02:59.46,1:03:01.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and bathrooms the places where people
Dialogue: 0,1:03:01.44,1:03:03.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ate the places where people were exposed
Dialogue: 0,1:03:03.45,1:03:05.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to violence from the outside these
Dialogue: 0,1:03:05.97,1:03:08.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,actions were all political by breaking
Dialogue: 0,1:03:08.64,1:03:10.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,down conventional distinctions between
Dialogue: 0,1:03:10.91,1:03:14.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,public and private in order to establish
Dialogue: 0,1:03:14.01,1:03:16.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,relations of interdependency that were
Dialogue: 0,1:03:16.16,1:03:19.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,supportive and sustaining and in this
Dialogue: 0,1:03:19.23,1:03:21.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sense they were incorporating into the
Dialogue: 0,1:03:21.15,1:03:23.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,very social form of resistance the
Dialogue: 0,1:03:23.34,1:03:24.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,principles for which they were
Dialogue: 0,1:03:24.66,1:03:28.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,struggling on the street and for the
Dialogue: 0,1:03:28.11,1:03:32.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,future the second the second dimension
Dialogue: 0,1:03:32.07,1:03:35.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of of of that assembly I want to call
Dialogue: 0,1:03:35.19,1:03:37.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,attention to is the careful relation to
Dialogue: 0,1:03:37.71,1:03:40.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,violence when up against violent attack
Dialogue: 0,1:03:40.38,1:03:42.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or extreme threats many people chanted
Dialogue: 0,1:03:42.78,1:03:45.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the words sumia which comes from the
Dialogue: 0,1:03:45.96,1:03:48.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,root verb Salima which means to be safe
Dialogue: 0,1:03:48.96,1:03:52.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and sound unharmed unimpaired intact
Dialogue: 0,1:03:52.83,1:03:56.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,safe and secure but also interestingly
Dialogue: 0,1:03:56.58,1:04:00.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the unobjectionable blameless
Dialogue: 0,1:04:00.15,1:04:03.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,faultless and yet also to be certain
Dialogue: 0,1:04:03.71,1:04:07.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,established clearly proven the term
Dialogue: 0,1:04:07.44,1:04:10.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,comes from the noun seen si l M which
Dialogue: 0,1:04:10.80,1:04:14.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,means peace but also interchangeably and
Dialogue: 0,1:04:14.25,1:04:17.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,significantly the religion of Islam one
Dialogue: 0,1:04:17.82,1:04:18.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,variant
Dialogue: 0,1:04:18.51,1:04:22.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the term is of us soon which is
Dialogue: 0,1:04:22.80,1:04:27.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Arabic for pacifism most usually the
Dialogue: 0,1:04:27.12,1:04:30.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,chanting of Samia comes across as a
Dialogue: 0,1:04:30.00,1:04:33.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,gentle exhortation peaceful peaceful
Dialogue: 0,1:04:33.69,1:04:36.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,although the Revolution was for the most
Dialogue: 0,1:04:36.24,1:04:38.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,part nonviolent it was not necessarily
Dialogue: 0,1:04:38.52,1:04:40.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,led by a principled opposition to
Dialogue: 0,1:04:40.80,1:04:43.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,violence rather the collective chant was
Dialogue: 0,1:04:43.68,1:04:45.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a way of encouraging people to resist
Dialogue: 0,1:04:45.60,1:04:48.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the mimetic pull of military aggression
Dialogue: 0,1:04:48.21,1:04:51.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the aggression of the gangs by
Dialogue: 0,1:04:51.57,1:04:54.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,keeping in mind the larger goal radical
Dialogue: 0,1:04:54.39,1:04:57.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Democratic change to be swept into a
Dialogue: 0,1:04:57.45,1:04:59.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,violent exchange of the moment was to
Dialogue: 0,1:04:59.61,1:05:01.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,lose the patience needed to realize the
Dialogue: 0,1:05:01.98,1:05:04.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,revolution what interests me here is the
Dialogue: 0,1:05:04.89,1:05:07.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,chant the way in which language worked
Dialogue: 0,1:05:07.14,1:05:09.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not to incite an action but rather to
Dialogue: 0,1:05:09.81,1:05:12.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,restrain one the chant structures effect
Dialogue: 0,1:05:12.99,1:05:14.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the direction of community and
Dialogue: 0,1:05:14.70,1:05:17.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,non-violence calling for an enacting a
Dialogue: 0,1:05:17.58,1:05:21.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,nonviolent mode of politics of course an
Dialogue: 0,1:05:21.12,1:05:24.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ambiguity emerges precisely there since
Dialogue: 0,1:05:24.15,1:05:26.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,resisting a violent attack does take
Dialogue: 0,1:05:26.58,1:05:29.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,some force one has to sometimes forcibly
Dialogue: 0,1:05:29.73,1:05:32.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,resist a forcible attack and this means
Dialogue: 0,1:05:32.58,1:05:34.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that non-violence is not a form of
Dialogue: 0,1:05:34.41,1:05:37.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,passivity but rather the thoughtful
Dialogue: 0,1:05:37.02,1:05:40.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,cultivation of forceful resistance that
Dialogue: 0,1:05:40.23,1:05:43.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,refuses to replicate the aggression it
Dialogue: 0,1:05:43.44,1:05:47.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,opposes and where restraint itself must
Dialogue: 0,1:05:47.67,1:05:49.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,be understood as the nonviolent
Dialogue: 0,1:05:49.91,1:05:54.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,cultivation of force although some may
Dialogue: 0,1:05:54.15,1:05:56.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,wager that under conditions of new media
Dialogue: 0,1:05:56.19,1:05:58.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or social networking the exercise of
Dialogue: 0,1:05:58.77,1:06:00.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,rights now takes place quite at the
Dialogue: 0,1:06:00.66,1:06:02.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,expense of bodies on the street that
Dialogue: 0,1:06:02.88,1:06:05.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Twitter and other virtual technologies
Dialogue: 0,1:06:05.01,1:06:07.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have led to a disembodiment of the
Dialogue: 0,1:06:07.77,1:06:11.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,public sphere I disagree and as I've
Dialogue: 0,1:06:11.58,1:06:14.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,argued elsewhere I want to suggest that
Dialogue: 0,1:06:14.04,1:06:16.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the media requires those bodies on the
Dialogue: 0,1:06:16.08,1:06:18.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,street to have an event even as the
Dialogue: 0,1:06:18.24,1:06:20.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,street requires the media to exist in a
Dialogue: 0,1:06:20.70,1:06:23.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,global arena but under conditions when
Dialogue: 0,1:06:23.52,1:06:26.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,those with cameras or internet compress
Dialogue: 0,1:06:26.28,1:06:28.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and or tortured or deported then the use
Dialogue: 0,1:06:28.83,1:06:31.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the technology effectively implicates
Dialogue: 0,1:06:31.17,1:06:32.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the body
Dialogue: 0,1:06:32.34,1:06:34.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not only must someone's hand tap and
Dialogue: 0,1:06:34.68,1:06:37.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,send but someone's body is on the line
Dialogue: 0,1:06:37.11,1:06:39.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if that tapping and sending gets traced
Dialogue: 0,1:06:39.81,1:06:43.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in other words localization is hardly
Dialogue: 0,1:06:43.17,1:06:45.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,overcome through the use of a media that
Dialogue: 0,1:06:45.60,1:06:48.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,potentially transmits globally and if
Dialogue: 0,1:06:48.78,1:06:51.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this conjuncture of street and media
Dialogue: 0,1:06:51.27,1:06:53.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,constitutes a very contemporary version
Dialogue: 0,1:06:53.64,1:06:56.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the public sphere then bodies on the
Dialogue: 0,1:06:56.13,1:06:58.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,line have to be thought as both there
Dialogue: 0,1:06:58.38,1:07:01.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and here now and then transported in
Dialogue: 0,1:07:01.50,1:07:03.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,stationary with very different political
Dialogue: 0,1:07:03.80,1:07:06.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,consequences following from these two
Dialogue: 0,1:07:06.63,1:07:09.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ways of being positioned in space and
Dialogue: 0,1:07:09.18,1:07:14.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,time finally then bodies on the street
Dialogue: 0,1:07:14.16,1:07:17.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are precarious they're exposed to police
Dialogue: 0,1:07:17.13,1:07:18.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,force and sometimes endure physical
Dialogue: 0,1:07:18.93,1:07:22.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,suffering as a result the risk is there
Dialogue: 0,1:07:22.05,1:07:24.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it seems to be increasing now that
Dialogue: 0,1:07:24.15,1:07:26.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,police regularly clear out the
Dialogue: 0,1:07:26.22,1:07:27.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,encampments of the Occupy movement
Dialogue: 0,1:07:27.66,1:07:31.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,through forcible means or or clamp down
Dialogue: 0,1:07:31.83,1:07:39.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on free assembly supported by laws and
Dialogue: 0,1:07:39.27,1:07:42.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,policies that claim that free assemblies
Dialogue: 0,1:07:42.03,1:07:45.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are security risks one way to obliterate
Dialogue: 0,1:07:45.87,1:07:49.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a fundamental right those bodies are
Dialogue: 0,1:07:49.35,1:07:51.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,also obdurate and persisting they insist
Dialogue: 0,1:07:51.96,1:07:54.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on their continuing and collective their
Dialogue: 0,1:07:54.24,1:07:57.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,nasur hereness and in these recent forms
Dialogue: 0,1:07:57.81,1:07:59.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,organizing themselves without hierarchy
Dialogue: 0,1:07:59.79,1:08:02.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and so exemplifying the principles of
Dialogue: 0,1:08:02.52,1:08:04.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,equal treatment they are demanding of
Dialogue: 0,1:08:04.71,1:08:08.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,public institutions in this way in this
Dialogue: 0,1:08:08.10,1:08:10.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,way those bodies enact the message
Dialogue: 0,1:08:10.79,1:08:13.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,performative Lee even when they sleep in
Dialogue: 0,1:08:13.68,1:08:15.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,public or when they organize collective
Dialogue: 0,1:08:15.60,1:08:17.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,methods for cleaning the grounds they
Dialogue: 0,1:08:17.46,1:08:20.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,occupy as happened both interior and
Dialogue: 0,1:08:20.19,1:08:23.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Zuccotti Park if there's a we who
Dialogue: 0,1:08:23.37,1:08:26.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,assembles there at that precise space
Dialogue: 0,1:08:26.10,1:08:28.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and time there's also a we that forms
Dialogue: 0,1:08:28.17,1:08:30.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,across the media that calls for the
Dialogue: 0,1:08:30.18,1:08:32.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,demonstrations and broadcasts its event
Dialogue: 0,1:08:32.73,1:08:35.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so some set of global connections are
Dialogue: 0,1:08:35.19,1:08:37.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,being articulated a different sense of
Dialogue: 0,1:08:37.53,1:08:39.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the global from the globalized market
Dialogue: 0,1:08:39.87,1:08:42.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and some set of values are being enacted
Dialogue: 0,1:08:42.72,1:08:45.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the form of a collective resistance
Dialogue: 0,1:08:45.61,1:08:47.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a defense of our collective precarity
Dialogue: 0,1:08:47.50,1:08:49.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and persistence in the making of
Dialogue: 0,1:08:49.84,1:08:52.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,equality and the many voiced and
Dialogue: 0,1:08:52.09,1:08:54.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,unvoiced ways of refusing to become
Dialogue: 0,1:08:54.85,1:08:59.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,disposable when this happens we act from
Dialogue: 0,1:08:59.26,1:09:02.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a sense of precarity we also act against
Dialogue: 0,1:09:02.23,1:09:05.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a sense of precarity reacting coalition
Dialogue: 0,1:09:05.38,1:09:10.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and often in unchosen proximities to
Dialogue: 0,1:09:10.06,1:09:12.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people we've never chosen to be close to
Dialogue: 0,1:09:12.48,1:09:15.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,indeed in a situation where a pre
Dialogue: 0,1:09:15.67,1:09:18.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,contractual interdependency is at work
Dialogue: 0,1:09:18.42,1:09:20.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sometimes this is experienced as a
Dialogue: 0,1:09:20.92,1:09:23.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,relief and an exhilaration sometimes it
Dialogue: 0,1:09:23.95,1:09:26.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is uneasy and conflicted but it is in my
Dialogue: 0,1:09:26.98,1:09:30.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,view always necessary and sometimes
Dialogue: 0,1:09:30.87,1:09:35.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,promising and alive thank you
Dialogue: 0,1:09:44.49,1:09:47.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thank you
Dialogue: 0,1:09:52.65,1:09:55.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thank you
Dialogue: 0,1:10:05.64,1:10:09.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank You dr. Butler my name is Charlie
Dialogue: 0,1:10:09.19,1:10:10.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Smith I'm editor if the charges straight
Dialogue: 0,1:10:10.96,1:10:14.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we have two microphones one on the
Dialogue: 0,1:10:14.38,1:10:17.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,left and one on the right so if people
Dialogue: 0,1:10:17.08,1:10:19.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,want to ask questions they can go to the
Dialogue: 0,1:10:19.66,1:10:22.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,microphone and I'll just start with one
Dialogue: 0,1:10:22.93,1:10:25.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,question to get things going
Dialogue: 0,1:10:25.29,1:10:29.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,dr. Butler why is it that so many people
Dialogue: 0,1:10:29.83,1:10:33.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in North America seem to have difficulty
Dialogue: 0,1:10:33.43,1:10:42.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,acknowledging their own precarity agree
Dialogue: 0,1:10:42.07,1:10:47.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with well it's not very much fun is it I
Dialogue: 0,1:10:50.34,1:10:54.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can follow up with another question
Dialogue: 0,1:10:56.13,1:11:00.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,um no I'm happy to answer your question
Dialogue: 0,1:11:00.96,1:11:03.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,although I'm not sure I could answer in
Dialogue: 0,1:11:03.43,1:11:08.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a satisfying way but but but but but
Dialogue: 0,1:11:08.02,1:11:11.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,certainly I mean I do think that there
Dialogue: 0,1:11:11.53,1:11:16.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are forms of amassing wealth and
Dialogue: 0,1:11:16.44,1:11:21.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,economic and political security and
Dialogue: 0,1:11:21.88,1:11:25.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,protection that are very much about
Dialogue: 0,1:11:25.32,1:11:28.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,producing the possibility of lives that
Dialogue: 0,1:11:28.54,1:11:32.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,will not be touched by other lives or
Dialogue: 0,1:11:32.73,1:11:36.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,lives that will be impermeable to
Dialogue: 0,1:11:36.96,1:11:39.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,incursion right we can think about gated
Dialogue: 0,1:11:39.31,1:11:41.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,communities but we can also think more
Dialogue: 0,1:11:41.71,1:11:48.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,generally about forms of of militarism
Dialogue: 0,1:11:48.28,1:11:51.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or nationalism that are stoked by the
Dialogue: 0,1:11:51.88,1:11:55.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ideal of of never being attacked are
Dialogue: 0,1:11:55.84,1:12:00.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,never never having anyone come into
Dialogue: 0,1:12:00.82,1:12:04.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one's territory who might do harm and I
Dialogue: 0,1:12:04.36,1:12:06.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,think one can find it as well in
Dialogue: 0,1:12:06.28,1:12:12.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,virulent anti-immigration discourses and
Dialogue: 0,1:12:12.93,1:12:15.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I'm not
Dialogue: 0,1:12:15.11,1:12:18.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sure that most people would understand
Dialogue: 0,1:12:18.17,1:12:21.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,themselves as dealing with a situation
Dialogue: 0,1:12:21.71,1:12:25.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of precarity at such moments but in fact
Dialogue: 0,1:12:25.25,1:12:31.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think that there's there's a specter
Dialogue: 0,1:12:31.28,1:12:33.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of being destroyed or being destabilized
Dialogue: 0,1:12:33.32,1:12:39.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or of being penetrated or aggressed upon
Dialogue: 0,1:12:39.11,1:12:46.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that does suggest a level of enormous
Dialogue: 0,1:12:46.16,1:12:50.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,political anxiety that that that focuses
Dialogue: 0,1:12:50.33,1:12:55.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on on the body and and and the capacity
Dialogue: 0,1:12:55.64,1:12:59.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the body to be suddenly aggressed
Dialogue: 0,1:12:59.12,1:13:06.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,upon or to be entered to be - - to have
Dialogue: 0,1:13:06.56,1:13:10.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,its its solidity and control threatened
Dialogue: 0,1:13:10.61,1:13:18.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at a very fundamental level and and and
Dialogue: 0,1:13:18.02,1:13:20.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I and I do think that it is a political
Dialogue: 0,1:13:20.36,1:13:25.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,strategy - to effectively externalize
Dialogue: 0,1:13:25.22,1:13:29.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and deposit that felt sense of precarity
Dialogue: 0,1:13:29.26,1:13:32.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in in other populations and to try to
Dialogue: 0,1:13:32.66,1:13:35.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,keep other populations precarious
Dialogue: 0,1:13:35.12,1:13:39.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,especially those who are who are in some
Dialogue: 0,1:13:39.62,1:13:43.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sense feared or loathed and of course
Dialogue: 0,1:13:43.42,1:13:46.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people in dominant in dominant positions
Dialogue: 0,1:13:46.49,1:13:49.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who do that know that they are also all
Dialogue: 0,1:13:49.82,1:13:51.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the more subject to aggression from
Dialogue: 0,1:13:51.92,1:13:53.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,those they subjugate so what they
Dialogue: 0,1:13:53.81,1:13:56.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,actually end up doing is increasing
Dialogue: 0,1:13:56.45,1:13:58.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,their own felt sense of precarity
Dialogue: 0,1:13:58.94,1:14:01.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,through a mode of subjugation that is
Dialogue: 0,1:14:01.43,1:14:04.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,unlivable for those who who who live it
Dialogue: 0,1:14:04.78,1:14:10.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so you know I I think we could we could
Dialogue: 0,1:14:10.30,1:14:12.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,answer the question at both the
Dialogue: 0,1:14:12.59,1:14:14.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,psychological and a political level but
Dialogue: 0,1:14:14.60,1:14:18.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,my my my wager is that the psychological
Dialogue: 0,1:14:18.50,1:14:22.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the political work in tandem it's
Dialogue: 0,1:14:22.70,1:14:24.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not always easy to show how that works
Dialogue: 0,1:14:24.77,1:14:26.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm not interested in the kind of group
Dialogue: 0,1:14:26.21,1:14:29.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,psychology exactly but I
Dialogue: 0,1:14:29.11,1:14:32.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I am interested in seeing how that
Dialogue: 0,1:14:32.63,1:14:34.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can work out I don't I don't know if I
Dialogue: 0,1:14:34.85,1:14:44.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,answered your question okay so what I
Dialogue: 0,1:14:44.53,1:14:48.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,would say you did I mean I'll try again
Dialogue: 0,1:14:48.74,1:14:50.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yeah happy to know well there is the
Dialogue: 0,1:14:50.60,1:14:54.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,psychological aspects - yes that failure
Dialogue: 0,1:14:54.41,1:14:58.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to acknowledge but what I'll do is we
Dialogue: 0,1:14:58.52,1:15:00.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have people who want to ask questions
Dialogue: 0,1:15:00.14,1:15:03.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and where what I would ask each person
Dialogue: 0,1:15:03.95,1:15:06.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who asks a question if you could keep it
Dialogue: 0,1:15:06.41,1:15:09.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,relatively concise so that we can get
Dialogue: 0,1:15:09.59,1:15:11.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,more questions in the amount of time
Dialogue: 0,1:15:11.33,1:15:14.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,available so we'll start on the right
Dialogue: 0,1:15:14.35,1:15:16.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one of the chants I heard at the Occupy
Dialogue: 0,1:15:16.61,1:15:19.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,movements in Vancouver the people United
Dialogue: 0,1:15:19.19,1:15:21.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,will never be defeated and if there's
Dialogue: 0,1:15:21.41,1:15:22.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one thing I learned it's that in that
Dialogue: 0,1:15:22.85,1:15:25.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,instance the people were defeated and
Dialogue: 0,1:15:25.06,1:15:27.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,maybe you might disagree with me but we
Dialogue: 0,1:15:27.35,1:15:28.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,need only refer to our mutual friend
Dialogue: 0,1:15:28.88,1:15:31.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hegel and the battle between the law of
Dialogue: 0,1:15:31.43,1:15:32.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the heart in the way of the world to
Dialogue: 0,1:15:32.84,1:15:35.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,graph onto this see what I think can be
Dialogue: 0,1:15:35.57,1:15:37.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,characterized is the fact that we we
Dialogue: 0,1:15:37.64,1:15:40.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have the law of the heart the occupiers
Dialogue: 0,1:15:40.48,1:15:42.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,keeping in reserve the virtue the fact
Dialogue: 0,1:15:42.86,1:15:44.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that the people will never be defeated
Dialogue: 0,1:15:44.36,1:15:45.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,well the way of the world will always
Dialogue: 0,1:15:45.98,1:15:47.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,triumph over that because of the nature
Dialogue: 0,1:15:47.96,1:15:49.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of it being a sham fight to this extent
Dialogue: 0,1:15:49.64,1:15:51.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,my question is is this kegeling
Dialogue: 0,1:15:51.89,1:15:53.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,characterization correct and if so to
Dialogue: 0,1:15:53.90,1:15:56.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what extent will these occupiers and
Dialogue: 0,1:15:56.72,1:15:58.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,these carceral archipelagos need to
Dialogue: 0,1:15:58.91,1:16:01.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,traverse the fantasy that non-violence
Dialogue: 0,1:16:01.19,1:16:02.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can actually edify radical Democratic
Dialogue: 0,1:16:02.81,1:16:06.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Change okay you know I my guess is that
Dialogue: 0,1:16:06.41,1:16:07.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,others heard you better you were
Dialogue: 0,1:16:07.97,1:16:09.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,standing just a little bit too far away
Dialogue: 0,1:16:09.86,1:16:12.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from that microphone for me but I
Dialogue: 0,1:16:12.70,1:16:15.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I and I understand it but I got it that
Dialogue: 0,1:16:15.91,1:16:22.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it was very articulate but I'm just but
Dialogue: 0,1:16:22.84,1:16:23.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm sorry
Dialogue: 0,1:16:23.32,1:16:25.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what I understand you to have said is
Dialogue: 0,1:16:25.27,1:16:27.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that the the the the so-called occupiers
Dialogue: 0,1:16:27.67,1:16:31.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,were falsely believed that if they
Dialogue: 0,1:16:31.57,1:16:33.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,remain united they would not be defeated
Dialogue: 0,1:16:33.79,1:16:36.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but indeed they were defeated which
Dialogue: 0,1:16:36.31,1:16:38.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,means that there's something wrong with
Dialogue: 0,1:16:38.14,1:16:40.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the tactic but what I don't understand
Dialogue: 0,1:16:40.36,1:16:42.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is what you're you're claiming is wrong
Dialogue: 0,1:16:42.61,1:16:43.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with the tactic what I'm claiming is
Dialogue: 0,1:16:43.99,1:16:46.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that the the movement is subject to a
Dialogue: 0,1:16:46.90,1:16:49.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,fantasy that nonviolent change can
Dialogue: 0,1:16:49.00,1:16:52.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,actually edify radical Democratic Change
Dialogue: 0,1:16:52.69,1:16:56.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is that correct and if it is not correct
Dialogue: 0,1:16:56.19,1:17:09.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where am I going wrong well look first
Dialogue: 0,1:17:09.13,1:17:11.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of all as far as I'm concerned the
Dialogue: 0,1:17:11.29,1:17:18.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Occupy movement is not over and but the
Dialogue: 0,1:17:18.97,1:17:23.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Occupy movement is has to work through
Dialogue: 0,1:17:23.37,1:17:28.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,certain kinds of in in in in in an
Dialogue: 0,1:17:28.84,1:17:34.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,episodic way and the encampment episode
Dialogue: 0,1:17:34.48,1:17:36.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,has been an extremely important one the
Dialogue: 0,1:17:36.94,1:17:38.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,end of encampments is not the end of the
Dialogue: 0,1:17:38.83,1:17:43.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Occupy movement and the real question is
Dialogue: 0,1:17:43.60,1:17:46.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what are the new strategies and and and
Dialogue: 0,1:17:46.24,1:17:49.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what are the new ways of occupying
Dialogue: 0,1:17:49.57,1:17:54.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,buildings temporarily or producing
Dialogue: 0,1:17:54.61,1:17:57.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,demonstrations or continuing to get the
Dialogue: 0,1:17:57.67,1:18:03.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,word out in in different ways so so you
Dialogue: 0,1:18:03.01,1:18:04.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,know I think we have certain ideas of
Dialogue: 0,1:18:04.42,1:18:06.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what success is Oh Occupy movement
Dialogue: 0,1:18:06.81,1:18:10.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,failed because police power came in and
Dialogue: 0,1:18:10.21,1:18:14.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,wiped them out and they were defenseless
Dialogue: 0,1:18:14.44,1:18:17.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,against police power now you could say
Dialogue: 0,1:18:17.20,1:18:19.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,oh they needed to take arms or what we
Dialogue: 0,1:18:19.54,1:18:21.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,need is a armed revolutionary struggle
Dialogue: 0,1:18:21.61,1:18:24.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or or something along those lines
Dialogue: 0,1:18:24.86,1:18:29.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I think I think in fact what we are
Dialogue: 0,1:18:29.88,1:18:32.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,seeing is the common the contours of a
Dialogue: 0,1:18:32.97,1:18:36.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,new form of the conflict to remember
Dialogue: 0,1:18:36.18,1:18:39.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what what really began as a movement
Dialogue: 0,1:18:39.69,1:18:43.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that was trying to draw attention to
Dialogue: 0,1:18:43.58,1:18:50.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,differential levels of wealth and in
Dialogue: 0,1:18:50.01,1:18:52.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,particular showing that the rich are
Dialogue: 0,1:18:52.89,1:18:55.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,getting richer and fewer and the poor
Dialogue: 0,1:18:55.56,1:19:00.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are getting larger and poorer suddenly
Dialogue: 0,1:19:00.63,1:19:02.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,found itself up against police power
Dialogue: 0,1:19:02.91,1:19:06.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,right and that the analysis of police
Dialogue: 0,1:19:06.30,1:19:08.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,power and the resistance to police power
Dialogue: 0,1:19:08.22,1:19:09.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was not at the forefront of the movement
Dialogue: 0,1:19:09.84,1:19:14.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and suddenly became at the forefront of
Dialogue: 0,1:19:14.16,1:19:17.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the movement when public space was taken
Dialogue: 0,1:19:17.94,1:19:22.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,back by the state time and again through
Dialogue: 0,1:19:22.41,1:19:27.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,forcible police action so no and and it
Dialogue: 0,1:19:27.00,1:19:30.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,seems to me that in in many of the
Dialogue: 0,1:19:30.42,1:19:33.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,student movements as well which are to a
Dialogue: 0,1:19:33.66,1:19:35.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,certain degree linked to occupy and to a
Dialogue: 0,1:19:35.61,1:19:38.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,certain degree independent we're also
Dialogue: 0,1:19:38.10,1:19:42.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,seeing police action against free
Dialogue: 0,1:19:42.54,1:19:45.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,assembly and I gather the new montreal
Dialogue: 0,1:19:45.63,1:19:49.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,law has actually now effectively
Dialogue: 0,1:19:49.32,1:19:54.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,criminalized protests as as a kind of
Dialogue: 0,1:19:54.12,1:19:56.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,security threat which is to me extremely
Dialogue: 0,1:19:56.70,1:20:00.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,frightening so the real question for me
Dialogue: 0,1:20:00.87,1:20:05.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is okay what's what now we're not just
Dialogue: 0,1:20:05.97,1:20:07.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,dealing with differentials in wealth
Dialogue: 0,1:20:07.47,1:20:13.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we're also dealing with a state a set of
Dialogue: 0,1:20:13.07,1:20:15.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,economic and state powers that are
Dialogue: 0,1:20:15.92,1:20:20.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,invested in the destruction of dissent
Dialogue: 0,1:20:20.25,1:20:25.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and legal assembly through using the
Dialogue: 0,1:20:25.32,1:20:27.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,violent arm of the state which is the
Dialogue: 0,1:20:27.78,1:20:31.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,police and and that point and those
Dialogue: 0,1:20:31.08,1:20:32.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,police forces are increasingly in
Dialogue: 0,1:20:32.94,1:20:36.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,several cities as we know
Dialogue: 0,1:20:37.53,1:20:40.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,being trained by military forces so we
Dialogue: 0,1:20:40.35,1:20:42.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,actually have the militarization of the
Dialogue: 0,1:20:42.24,1:20:45.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,police and the criminalization of
Dialogue: 0,1:20:45.24,1:20:47.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,protests happening at the same time
Dialogue: 0,1:20:47.73,1:20:49.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which means that the analysis of power
Dialogue: 0,1:20:49.89,1:20:52.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the ways of resisting that power are
Dialogue: 0,1:20:52.62,1:20:55.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,going to have to adapt but we're in the
Dialogue: 0,1:20:55.05,1:20:57.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,middle of a process we're in the middle
Dialogue: 0,1:20:57.66,1:21:01.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of a process and and and it's also a
Dialogue: 0,1:21:01.56,1:21:05.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,problem because traditional modes of
Dialogue: 0,1:21:05.42,1:21:08.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,civil disobedience and nonviolent
Dialogue: 0,1:21:08.58,1:21:09.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,resistance are no longer being
Dialogue: 0,1:21:09.99,1:21:13.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,recognized as legitimate so for instance
Dialogue: 0,1:21:13.32,1:21:15.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on the Berkeley campus when people and
Dialogue: 0,1:21:15.60,1:21:18.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know they actually you know gave the
Dialogue: 0,1:21:18.87,1:21:22.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,police their wrists thinking okay you
Dialogue: 0,1:21:22.74,1:21:25.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,know a handcuffed me take me away this
Dialogue: 0,1:21:25.38,1:21:27.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is what's done this is what happened in
Dialogue: 0,1:21:27.84,1:21:30.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the civil rights movement they were
Dialogue: 0,1:21:30.30,1:21:33.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thrown to the ground and beaten which
Dialogue: 0,1:21:33.30,1:21:35.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is an historically really
Dialogue: 0,1:21:35.07,1:21:37.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,important moment given free speech at
Dialogue: 0,1:21:37.68,1:21:40.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Berkeley because what it what it
Dialogue: 0,1:21:40.89,1:21:44.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,effectively said it says is that
Dialogue: 0,1:21:44.36,1:21:49.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,traditions governing non nonviolent
Dialogue: 0,1:21:49.17,1:21:51.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,civil disobedience are no longer being
Dialogue: 0,1:21:51.21,1:21:55.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,honored it seems to me that the only way
Dialogue: 0,1:21:55.50,1:21:59.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to overcome that kind of militarization
Dialogue: 0,1:21:59.49,1:22:01.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and criminalization of protest is
Dialogue: 0,1:22:01.44,1:22:06.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,through making protest more amenable
Dialogue: 0,1:22:06.02,1:22:09.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,making it larger making it global making
Dialogue: 0,1:22:09.60,1:22:13.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it overwhelming so that the the actual
Dialogue: 0,1:22:13.26,1:22:16.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,legitimacy of the state is called into
Dialogue: 0,1:22:16.89,1:22:21.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,question I think there I I think we
Dialogue: 0,1:22:21.81,1:22:23.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,would have to have a longer discussion
Dialogue: 0,1:22:23.25,1:22:25.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about violence and non-violence and what
Dialogue: 0,1:22:25.53,1:22:27.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was trying to suggest briefly today is
Dialogue: 0,1:22:27.54,1:22:30.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that non-violence is not just passivity
Dialogue: 0,1:22:30.21,1:22:32.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it is the cultivation of the force of
Dialogue: 0,1:22:32.37,1:22:36.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,resistance and and in that sense it in
Dialogue: 0,1:22:36.00,1:22:38.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it involves bodily action pressure and
Dialogue: 0,1:22:38.61,1:22:43.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and presence and it is not simply taking
Dialogue: 0,1:22:43.20,1:22:49.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it but I we need more time for that
Dialogue: 0,1:22:55.91,1:22:57.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,okay I don't know if this is a big
Dialogue: 0,1:22:57.99,1:22:59.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,question or if it's actually a pretty
Dialogue: 0,1:22:59.25,1:23:01.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,straightforward question but just
Dialogue: 0,1:23:01.62,1:23:03.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thinking about leftist politics it is
Dialogue: 0,1:23:03.09,1:23:04.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,related to the last question on occupy
Dialogue: 0,1:23:04.59,1:23:07.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,um any kind of leftist or progressive
Dialogue: 0,1:23:07.05,1:23:08.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,politics whatever we want to call it um
Dialogue: 0,1:23:08.76,1:23:11.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it seems to obviously be in when it's up
Dialogue: 0,1:23:11.31,1:23:12.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,against right-wing politics it's
Dialogue: 0,1:23:12.84,1:23:14.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,necessarily fragmented because of our
Dialogue: 0,1:23:14.64,1:23:17.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,recognition of difference within a group
Dialogue: 0,1:23:17.31,1:23:19.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then I've often thought of your
Dialogue: 0,1:23:19.11,1:23:21.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,notion of strategic essentialism in
Dialogue: 0,1:23:21.24,1:23:22.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,terms of a way of bringing a group
Dialogue: 0,1:23:22.74,1:23:24.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,together and then something like occupy
Dialogue: 0,1:23:24.24,1:23:26.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I just kind of want to ask you with some
Dialogue: 0,1:23:26.31,1:23:30.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with kind of a phrase we are the 99% as
Dialogue: 0,1:23:30.33,1:23:32.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a kind of example of what I understand
Dialogue: 0,1:23:32.13,1:23:34.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to be strategic essentialism I would ask
Dialogue: 0,1:23:34.98,1:23:36.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if do you think that that has proven a
Dialogue: 0,1:23:36.78,1:23:39.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,kind of politically efficacious form of
Dialogue: 0,1:23:39.81,1:23:42.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the use of strategic essentialism or do
Dialogue: 0,1:23:42.60,1:23:44.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we lose something in something like we
Dialogue: 0,1:23:44.91,1:23:53.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are the 99% well I don't think we are
Dialogue: 0,1:23:53.31,1:23:56.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the 99% is strategic essentialism
Dialogue: 0,1:23:56.82,1:24:00.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because it doesn't say that our being
Dialogue: 0,1:24:00.11,1:24:05.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,99% is essential to who we are or is the
Dialogue: 0,1:24:05.10,1:24:09.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,only basis on which we mobilize together
Dialogue: 0,1:24:09.50,1:24:15.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think in fact it seeks to be a kind of
Dialogue: 0,1:24:15.42,1:24:17.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,umbrella term that is supposed to
Dialogue: 0,1:24:17.75,1:24:20.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,actually include all kinds of
Dialogue: 0,1:24:20.25,1:24:24.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,differences without asserting economic
Dialogue: 0,1:24:24.96,1:24:27.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,oppression as more primary than all
Dialogue: 0,1:24:27.06,1:24:29.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,other forms of oppression so I saw it as
Dialogue: 0,1:24:29.64,1:24:33.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,trying to circumvent the more classical
Dialogue: 0,1:24:33.30,1:24:38.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,leftist effort to to make economic
Dialogue: 0,1:24:38.13,1:24:39.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,oppression primary and then to have
Dialogue: 0,1:24:39.99,1:24:43.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,secondary oppressions but of course as
Dialogue: 0,1:24:43.44,1:24:45.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we know within many of the encampments
Dialogue: 0,1:24:45.63,1:24:46.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and within the movements there are
Dialogue: 0,1:24:46.92,1:24:49.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,struggles about race about sexuality
Dialogue: 0,1:24:49.65,1:24:53.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about gender and and and I guess I want
Dialogue: 0,1:24:53.91,1:24:57.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to say that those struggles are
Dialogue: 0,1:24:57.15,1:25:00.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,absolutely necessary
Dialogue: 0,1:25:00.10,1:25:02.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that we shouldn't lament them I
Dialogue: 0,1:25:02.08,1:25:04.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,don't think we should we should think oh
Dialogue: 0,1:25:04.33,1:25:05.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's too bad we're still having those
Dialogue: 0,1:25:05.80,1:25:07.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,struggles and we're not yet unified I
Dialogue: 0,1:25:07.45,1:25:09.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,think if we're having those struggles
Dialogue: 0,1:25:09.10,1:25:11.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that is what Unity means Unity means
Dialogue: 0,1:25:11.40,1:25:17.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,struggling right and so you know I I
Dialogue: 0,1:25:17.56,1:25:22.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,tend to kind of resist the the language
Dialogue: 0,1:25:22.54,1:25:25.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of fragmentation even though sometimes
Dialogue: 0,1:25:25.06,1:25:27.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's exactly right right that groups do
Dialogue: 0,1:25:27.79,1:25:30.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,leave they can't be in coalition
Dialogue: 0,1:25:30.28,1:25:33.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,together it's impossible and yet
Dialogue: 0,1:25:33.55,1:25:37.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it seems to me that hanging in hanging
Dialogue: 0,1:25:37.69,1:25:41.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in in coalition's where it's not easy
Dialogue: 0,1:25:41.89,1:25:44.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and when where those issues continue to
Dialogue: 0,1:25:44.05,1:25:46.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,remain open and where there's there's
Dialogue: 0,1:25:46.45,1:25:49.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,open conflict and struggle that's that's
Dialogue: 0,1:25:49.57,1:25:51.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what we can that's what is meant by
Dialogue: 0,1:25:51.87,1:25:55.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,unity unity is not uniformity unity is
Dialogue: 0,1:25:55.78,1:25:57.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,agreeing to stay in and struggle or
Dialogue: 0,1:25:57.43,1:25:58.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,finding that the struggle is worth it
Dialogue: 0,1:25:58.93,1:26:02.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not just because different groups need
Dialogue: 0,1:26:02.38,1:26:04.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to recognize each other or understand
Dialogue: 0,1:26:04.30,1:26:05.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,each other better
Dialogue: 0,1:26:05.05,1:26:07.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but because the stakes are really really
Dialogue: 0,1:26:07.75,1:26:10.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,high because what is happening
Dialogue: 0,1:26:10.11,1:26:12.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,economically and politically is is
Dialogue: 0,1:26:12.72,1:26:14.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,absolutely unacceptable and one has to
Dialogue: 0,1:26:14.98,1:26:17.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,keep that in mind at the same time that
Dialogue: 0,1:26:17.56,1:26:18.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one is engaged in that open-ended
Dialogue: 0,1:26:18.94,1:26:27.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,struggle I first of all I never I never
Dialogue: 0,1:26:27.64,1:26:29.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,felt so vulnerable that asking a
Dialogue: 0,1:26:29.26,1:26:34.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,question you're you're safe with me
Dialogue: 0,1:26:35.49,1:26:39.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just the vulnerability asset choice and
Dialogue: 0,1:26:39.55,1:26:41.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,being a student here as an immigrant and
Dialogue: 0,1:26:41.95,1:26:44.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a queer migrant the the first thing that
Dialogue: 0,1:26:44.74,1:26:46.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was told when I attended a student
Dialogue: 0,1:26:46.71,1:26:48.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,international student meeting was never
Dialogue: 0,1:26:48.58,1:26:50.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to attend a protest or any sort of
Dialogue: 0,1:26:50.98,1:26:55.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,social or political event and waste of
Dialogue: 0,1:26:55.39,1:26:59.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like some the tactics of fear applied to
Dialogue: 0,1:26:59.35,1:27:01.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by the state but also by the
Dialogue: 0,1:27:01.27,1:27:04.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,institutions to depolarize migrants as a
Dialogue: 0,1:27:04.60,1:27:07.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,way of preventing any action to happen
Dialogue: 0,1:27:07.63,1:27:10.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's one of and but also the
Dialogue: 0,1:27:10.78,1:27:12.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,vulnerability as a choice so every time
Dialogue: 0,1:27:12.43,1:27:13.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I go to a protest
Dialogue: 0,1:27:13.51,1:27:15.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which I do all the time there's a choice
Dialogue: 0,1:27:15.31,1:27:18.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of me of being a greater choice of
Dialogue: 0,1:27:18.31,1:27:20.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,actually being deported if anything goes
Dialogue: 0,1:27:20.80,1:27:22.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,wrong so there's that that there's
Dialogue: 0,1:27:22.57,1:27:24.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,always that fear but also vulnerability
Dialogue: 0,1:27:24.73,1:27:26.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as a as a place of birth of any
Dialogue: 0,1:27:26.68,1:27:30.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,resistance so how do you play that
Dialogue: 0,1:27:30.19,1:27:31.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,performative side of performativity
Dialogue: 0,1:27:31.96,1:27:34.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,within like the tactics that are applied
Dialogue: 0,1:27:34.32,1:27:37.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by the state and by the institutions to
Dialogue: 0,1:27:37.60,1:27:40.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,deploy to ties migrants mm-hmm good
Dialogue: 0,1:27:40.81,1:27:43.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,question
Dialogue: 0,1:27:43.69,1:27:45.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,seems like you could probably tell me
Dialogue: 0,1:27:45.43,1:27:47.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,more about that question that I could
Dialogue: 0,1:27:47.35,1:27:54.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,tell you but I do I do think that the
Dialogue: 0,1:27:54.73,1:27:58.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that the the effort to depoliticize
Dialogue: 0,1:27:58.11,1:28:01.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,migrants as you've described it is also
Dialogue: 0,1:28:01.60,1:28:04.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a certain kind of training in good
Dialogue: 0,1:28:04.66,1:28:05.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,citizenship
Dialogue: 0,1:28:05.53,1:28:09.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,right and we have to ask what version of
Dialogue: 0,1:28:09.49,1:28:11.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,citizenship is being inculcated at such
Dialogue: 0,1:28:11.98,1:28:16.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,moments and whether whether you're also
Dialogue: 0,1:28:16.69,1:28:22.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,being asked to accept implicit forms of
Dialogue: 0,1:28:22.06,1:28:24.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,censorship as the precondition of your
Dialogue: 0,1:28:24.67,1:28:28.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,membership and and that's that's really
Dialogue: 0,1:28:28.93,1:28:30.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,tricky you don't even need a law to say
Dialogue: 0,1:28:30.85,1:28:33.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you you know you may I mean of course
Dialogue: 0,1:28:33.48,1:28:35.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there's the problem of the law but there
Dialogue: 0,1:28:35.89,1:28:37.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,doesn't even have to be an explicit
Dialogue: 0,1:28:37.60,1:28:48.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,censoring but I think in fact one I had
Dialogue: 0,1:28:48.19,1:28:52.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,these conversations with with students
Dialogue: 0,1:28:52.99,1:28:55.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on the on the East Coast in the US who
Dialogue: 0,1:28:55.42,1:28:58.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,did a number of public public actions
Dialogue: 0,1:28:58.21,1:28:59.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they were undocumented and they did
Dialogue: 0,1:28:59.77,1:29:03.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,public actions that did put them in a
Dialogue: 0,1:29:03.34,1:29:05.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,precarious position but also drew
Dialogue: 0,1:29:05.11,1:29:07.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,attention to the precarious position
Dialogue: 0,1:29:07.39,1:29:09.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they were in and which was for them not
Dialogue: 0,1:29:09.31,1:29:13.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,acceptable right and and so we have to
Dialogue: 0,1:29:13.60,1:29:16.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,think about both dimensions of that and
Dialogue: 0,1:29:16.15,1:29:18.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what was interesting is that certain
Dialogue: 0,1:29:18.13,1:29:21.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,students could do it and those were the
Dialogue: 0,1:29:21.58,1:29:24.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ones who for whatever reason felt that
Dialogue: 0,1:29:24.79,1:29:27.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,their chances of deportation were
Dialogue: 0,1:29:27.10,1:29:29.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or that they were possibly protected by
Dialogue: 0,1:29:29.29,1:29:31.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the institutions they were part of or
Dialogue: 0,1:29:31.57,1:29:33.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who are willing to take the risk for
Dialogue: 0,1:29:33.85,1:29:35.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whatever reason and others felt they
Dialogue: 0,1:29:35.65,1:29:37.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,could not do that but wanted to support
Dialogue: 0,1:29:37.99,1:29:39.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the effort in ways that didn't
Dialogue: 0,1:29:39.73,1:29:41.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,necessarily put their own bodies on the
Dialogue: 0,1:29:41.98,1:29:44.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,line and let's remember that every
Dialogue: 0,1:29:44.50,1:29:47.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,public demonstration requires its non
Dialogue: 0,1:29:47.74,1:29:51.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,public support system right there's a
Dialogue: 0,1:29:51.34,1:29:54.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,non public support system and there's a
Dialogue: 0,1:29:54.04,1:29:58.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,way to be supportive and to be you know
Dialogue: 0,1:29:58.18,1:30:03.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to be to be assisting and to be active
Dialogue: 0,1:30:03.57,1:30:08.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in in in in ways that that that feel
Dialogue: 0,1:30:08.04,1:30:10.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,manageable depending on what the level
Dialogue: 0,1:30:10.36,1:30:16.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of political risk really is for the
Dialogue: 0,1:30:16.06,1:30:17.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,individual or for the four other groups
Dialogue: 0,1:30:17.95,1:30:21.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so so I don't think there's one I don't
Dialogue: 0,1:30:21.28,1:30:24.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,think there's simply one form of of
Dialogue: 0,1:30:24.96,1:30:27.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,being mobilized on that issue
Dialogue: 0,1:30:27.40,1:30:29.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and one has to and and who no one can
Dialogue: 0,1:30:29.86,1:30:31.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,prescribe no one can prescribe to you
Dialogue: 0,1:30:31.96,1:30:34.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what risk to take but if someone tells
Dialogue: 0,1:30:34.12,1:30:36.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you never to take a risk then you know
Dialogue: 0,1:30:36.76,1:30:38.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you have to wonder what norm is being
Dialogue: 0,1:30:38.86,1:30:42.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,inculcated at such a moment
Dialogue: 0,1:30:45.51,1:30:47.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,allowing permanent like permanent
Dialogue: 0,1:30:47.68,1:30:50.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,residents can no like can be actually
Dialogue: 0,1:30:50.02,1:30:52.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,deported if they're like even citizens
Dialogue: 0,1:30:52.96,1:30:55.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that went through process of refugee or
Dialogue: 0,1:30:55.42,1:30:57.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,permanent resident before yes could be
Dialogue: 0,1:30:57.82,1:30:59.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,deported like there's no it the status
Dialogue: 0,1:30:59.86,1:31:02.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of permanent resident or our citizen is
Dialogue: 0,1:31:02.59,1:31:04.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not even like it goes farther than just
Dialogue: 0,1:31:04.75,1:31:07.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,being a I am aware I'm we we now have
Dialogue: 0,1:31:07.69,1:31:11.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,retractable forms of citizenship yes
Dialogue: 0,1:31:11.41,1:31:13.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,these are the retractable conditions of
Dialogue: 0,1:31:13.42,1:31:16.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,citizenship and they are expanding and
Dialogue: 0,1:31:16.48,1:31:21.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and and and that is that is that that is
Dialogue: 0,1:31:21.99,1:31:25.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hugely worrisome and and and very very
Dialogue: 0,1:31:25.09,1:31:32.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,difficult I understand that hi dr.
Dialogue: 0,1:31:32.17,1:31:34.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Butler I don't have a specific question
Dialogue: 0,1:31:34.21,1:31:36.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I was wondering if you could speak
Dialogue: 0,1:31:36.73,1:31:40.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to what you said earlier in your lecture
Dialogue: 0,1:31:40.66,1:31:45.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about the link between feminization of
Dialogue: 0,1:31:45.06,1:31:50.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,different nations and I'm totally
Dialogue: 0,1:31:50.62,1:31:53.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,drawing a blank here
Dialogue: 0,1:31:53.01,1:31:55.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,vulnerability of those nations so just
Dialogue: 0,1:31:55.45,1:31:56.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the link between the two I was wondering
Dialogue: 0,1:31:56.89,1:31:59.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you could speak briefly about those
Dialogue: 0,1:31:59.29,1:32:02.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because I was curious about that um well
Dialogue: 0,1:32:02.86,1:32:07.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I suppose um you know let me just you
Dialogue: 0,1:32:07.87,1:32:13.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,know clarify that I think you know in a
Dialogue: 0,1:32:13.36,1:32:16.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,way I'm I'm I'm saying two things at the
Dialogue: 0,1:32:16.81,1:32:18.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,same time and I want to be able to say
Dialogue: 0,1:32:18.58,1:32:22.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,them both and one is that vulnerability
Dialogue: 0,1:32:22.75,1:32:24.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is something like a shared condition
Dialogue: 0,1:32:24.40,1:32:26.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that cannot be denied and I also want to
Dialogue: 0,1:32:26.68,1:32:28.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,say that vulnerability is a condition
Dialogue: 0,1:32:28.99,1:32:34.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that is denied all the time and and and
Dialogue: 0,1:32:34.48,1:32:38.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I I do i I don't think we can deny what
Dialogue: 0,1:32:38.05,1:32:41.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is not in some sense there the link that
Dialogue: 0,1:32:41.20,1:32:43.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was making in my own mind was one of
Dialogue: 0,1:32:43.36,1:32:45.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,physical safety I don't know what
Dialogue: 0,1:32:45.40,1:32:48.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,physical safety yeah because physical
Dialogue: 0,1:32:48.37,1:32:52.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,safety is a concern for many women I
Dialogue: 0,1:32:52.21,1:32:54.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,mean it's a concern for everybody
Dialogue: 0,1:32:54.51,1:32:55.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I was wondering if that was
Dialogue: 0,1:32:55.98,1:32:57.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,something that you were thinking of when
Dialogue: 0,1:32:57.63,1:33:00.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you made this whoa what I did have in
Dialogue: 0,1:33:00.15,1:33:01.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,mind
Dialogue: 0,1:33:01.11,1:33:06.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is that certain forms of torture that
Dialogue: 0,1:33:06.87,1:33:10.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that took place under the Bush
Dialogue: 0,1:33:10.26,1:33:16.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,administration involved involved efforts
Dialogue: 0,1:33:16.20,1:33:25.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to feminize the the bodies of of Arab
Dialogue: 0,1:33:25.65,1:33:32.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,men in in out sourced prisons and and I
Dialogue: 0,1:33:32.85,1:33:36.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,think that it's a very complex issue the
Dialogue: 0,1:33:36.78,1:33:42.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,way in which torture work to to
Dialogue: 0,1:33:42.41,1:33:47.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,emasculate at the same time that it
Dialogue: 0,1:33:47.75,1:33:52.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,identified or consolidated the idea that
Dialogue: 0,1:33:52.37,1:33:55.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that those who are tortured are
Dialogue: 0,1:33:55.82,1:33:59.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,homosexual or women like you become a
Dialogue: 0,1:33:59.82,1:34:01.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,homosexual you become a woman
Dialogue: 0,1:34:01.62,1:34:03.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by being tortured and that the effect of
Dialogue: 0,1:34:03.81,1:34:05.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the torture was to do that so it it was
Dialogue: 0,1:34:05.88,1:34:09.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,operating within that idea that the
Dialogue: 0,1:34:09.30,1:34:11.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,worst possible social position or the
Dialogue: 0,1:34:11.19,1:34:13.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,position of intense vulnerability would
Dialogue: 0,1:34:13.83,1:34:20.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,be that of a homosexual or of a woman so
Dialogue: 0,1:34:20.31,1:34:23.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that kind of subservience well that kind
Dialogue: 0,1:34:23.67,1:34:27.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of inability to protect yourself against
Dialogue: 0,1:34:27.59,1:34:36.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,violent assault okay thank you we've got
Dialogue: 0,1:34:36.09,1:34:40.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,three more okay I just thank you I just
Dialogue: 0,1:34:40.92,1:34:42.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,wanted to know what your thoughts were
Dialogue: 0,1:34:42.87,1:34:45.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on the connection between physical
Dialogue: 0,1:34:45.57,1:34:48.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,violence in protests whether on the side
Dialogue: 0,1:34:48.66,1:34:52.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of protestors or the authorities and its
Dialogue: 0,1:34:52.98,1:34:56.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,connection with the vulnerability so for
Dialogue: 0,1:34:56.01,1:34:58.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,example could it displace the
Dialogue: 0,1:34:58.89,1:35:00.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,vulnerability of those protesters or
Dialogue: 0,1:35:00.75,1:35:03.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,does it rather reveal the vulnerability
Dialogue: 0,1:35:03.12,1:35:05.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of both the protesters and
Dialogue: 0,1:35:05.61,1:35:08.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,otherwise impermeable authorities at the
Dialogue: 0,1:35:08.97,1:35:10.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,same time or just what your thoughts
Dialogue: 0,1:35:10.53,1:35:12.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,were generally between the connection on
Dialogue: 0,1:35:12.14,1:35:14.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,physical violence in protests and the
Dialogue: 0,1:35:14.97,1:35:20.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,vulnerability which you spoke of okay
Dialogue: 0,1:35:21.59,1:35:24.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,um
Dialogue: 0,1:35:31.40,1:35:38.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in general I think I am
Dialogue: 0,1:35:38.00,1:35:41.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I support non non violent forms of
Dialogue: 0,1:35:41.30,1:35:47.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,resistance at the same time I want to
Dialogue: 0,1:35:47.48,1:35:50.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,say that one of the most important
Dialogue: 0,1:35:50.30,1:35:56.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,things for me as a and indeed for many
Dialogue: 0,1:35:56.03,1:35:59.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people in my generation was learning
Dialogue: 0,1:35:59.60,1:36:05.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,forms of of self-defense and that I
Dialogue: 0,1:36:05.48,1:36:08.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,wouldn't be okay on the street if I
Dialogue: 0,1:36:08.21,1:36:11.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,didn't know that I had skills of
Dialogue: 0,1:36:11.84,1:36:15.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,self-defense when we think about
Dialogue: 0,1:36:15.23,1:36:17.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,self-defense and we think about it on
Dialogue: 0,1:36:17.15,1:36:18.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the street we think about it in
Dialogue: 0,1:36:18.47,1:36:20.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,demonstrations we think about it what
Dialogue: 0,1:36:20.03,1:36:22.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when a when a policeman is coming at you
Dialogue: 0,1:36:22.25,1:36:25.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with a baton or when you were being
Dialogue: 0,1:36:25.03,1:36:30.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sprayed of course there's a right to
Dialogue: 0,1:36:30.56,1:36:32.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,self-defense and the question is what
Dialogue: 0,1:36:32.18,1:36:37.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,form does that take and what I'm most
Dialogue: 0,1:36:37.37,1:36:40.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,interested in our collective forms of
Dialogue: 0,1:36:40.46,1:36:43.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,support at moments of police attack so
Dialogue: 0,1:36:43.88,1:36:47.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that people they link together to make
Dialogue: 0,1:36:47.03,1:36:48.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it difficult for the attack to take
Dialogue: 0,1:36:48.86,1:36:51.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,place or they support one another or
Dialogue: 0,1:36:51.41,1:36:57.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they actually catch each other or or
Dialogue: 0,1:36:57.14,1:36:59.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,interpose themselves in front of one
Dialogue: 0,1:36:59.30,1:37:01.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,another there are there ways of thinking
Dialogue: 0,1:37:01.46,1:37:03.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about self-defense not just as an
Dialogue: 0,1:37:03.05,1:37:06.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,individual practice which many of us had
Dialogue: 0,1:37:06.83,1:37:09.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to learn but also as a kind of
Dialogue: 0,1:37:09.23,1:37:14.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,collective practice and it is it's a
Dialogue: 0,1:37:14.03,1:37:18.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,delicate and difficult practice and I
Dialogue: 0,1:37:18.62,1:37:20.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,don't think anyone can completely
Dialogue: 0,1:37:20.15,1:37:22.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,prescribe it in advance although there
Dialogue: 0,1:37:22.37,1:37:23.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are a lot of people who have worked on
Dialogue: 0,1:37:23.87,1:37:26.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this for a very very long time and there
Dialogue: 0,1:37:26.39,1:37:28.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are other social movements too to
Dialogue: 0,1:37:28.55,1:37:30.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,reference at this moment especially in
Dialogue: 0,1:37:30.95,1:37:36.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,South Africa so I think using the body
Dialogue: 0,1:37:36.83,1:37:42.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as a force to stop a blow or to
Dialogue: 0,1:37:42.15,1:37:46.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to deflect a blow is extremely important
Dialogue: 0,1:37:46.26,1:37:48.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at what point does that become a blow
Dialogue: 0,1:37:48.74,1:37:51.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what's what's the defense and what's the
Dialogue: 0,1:37:51.39,1:37:54.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what's that what's the the act I want to
Dialogue: 0,1:37:54.09,1:37:56.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,say that there's force on all sides of
Dialogue: 0,1:37:56.37,1:37:59.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that and that there's no way especially
Dialogue: 0,1:37:59.55,1:38:01.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the confrontation with the police
Dialogue: 0,1:38:01.53,1:38:04.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we can eradicate the field of force
Dialogue: 0,1:38:04.50,1:38:07.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we can only navigate the field of force
Dialogue: 0,1:38:07.14,1:38:11.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as ethically and and carefully and as we
Dialogue: 0,1:38:11.49,1:38:16.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can and sometimes our ex of self-defense
Dialogue: 0,1:38:16.83,1:38:18.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,will be called provocation they will be
Dialogue: 0,1:38:18.60,1:38:20.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,renamed after the fact and videos
Dialogue: 0,1:38:20.85,1:38:22.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,brought like oh that's a provocation
Dialogue: 0,1:38:22.41,1:38:24.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,well it seemed to me that person is
Dialogue: 0,1:38:24.15,1:38:26.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,being beaten or that's a price don't you
Dialogue: 0,1:38:26.34,1:38:28.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,see the left you know but there's no way
Dialogue: 0,1:38:28.71,1:38:31.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to control it especially in the visual
Dialogue: 0,1:38:31.29,1:38:34.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know documentation there's no way to
Dialogue: 0,1:38:34.02,1:38:37.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,fully control how it will signify and
Dialogue: 0,1:38:37.71,1:38:42.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that is of course a huge problem and I'm
Dialogue: 0,1:38:42.00,1:38:44.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,also aware that politically self-defense
Dialogue: 0,1:38:44.52,1:38:48.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,works in some ways that I don't agree
Dialogue: 0,1:38:48.78,1:38:52.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with right so that highly militarized
Dialogue: 0,1:38:52.68,1:38:55.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,nations can say they had to assault a
Dialogue: 0,1:38:55.41,1:38:59.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,population out of self-defense or they
Dialogue: 0,1:38:59.10,1:39:01.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,use self-defense to legitimate every act
Dialogue: 0,1:39:01.74,1:39:03.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of aggression so self-defense can become
Dialogue: 0,1:39:03.93,1:39:07.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,an alibi for aggression so that I don't
Dialogue: 0,1:39:07.53,1:39:09.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't have a good answer for you all I
Dialogue: 0,1:39:09.09,1:39:12.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,want to say is that it's a very vigilant
Dialogue: 0,1:39:12.00,1:39:15.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,practice to to insist on self-defense
Dialogue: 0,1:39:15.69,1:39:19.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and to make sure or to try as hard as
Dialogue: 0,1:39:19.08,1:39:24.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,possible for it not to be an alibi for
Dialogue: 0,1:39:24.50,1:39:27.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for the kind of violence we are opposing
Dialogue: 0,1:39:27.33,1:39:29.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,right because the whole point is not to
Dialogue: 0,1:39:29.58,1:39:32.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,replicate the violence one opposes just
Dialogue: 0,1:39:32.13,1:39:34.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it but to stop the violence right
Dialogue: 0,1:39:34.38,1:39:36.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that that's it
Dialogue: 0,1:39:36.31,1:39:43.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was just wondering if you could
Dialogue: 0,1:39:43.69,1:39:46.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,explain when you say that the Tea Party
Dialogue: 0,1:39:46.90,1:39:49.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for example has vicious appreciation for
Dialogue: 0,1:39:49.90,1:39:54.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the vulnerability of the other of those
Dialogue: 0,1:39:54.37,1:39:57.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who are not going to be able to afford
Dialogue: 0,1:39:57.22,1:39:59.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,health care and such and you say that
Dialogue: 0,1:39:59.23,1:40:01.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that actually exemplifies their own
Dialogue: 0,1:40:01.63,1:40:03.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,vulnerability and the fragility of their
Dialogue: 0,1:40:03.61,1:40:06.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,own states I'm wondering why then you
Dialogue: 0,1:40:06.07,1:40:08.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,included right-wing protests in your
Dialogue: 0,1:40:08.29,1:40:10.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,caveat as to why not all bodies on the
Dialogue: 0,1:40:10.78,1:40:12.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,street are positive and you included
Dialogue: 0,1:40:12.19,1:40:15.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,them with violence and with military and
Dialogue: 0,1:40:15.37,1:40:18.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with three percussive bodies on the
Dialogue: 0,1:40:18.04,1:40:21.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,street um just just tell me that again
Dialogue: 0,1:40:21.55,1:40:23.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what well the question is why why do you
Dialogue: 0,1:40:23.89,1:40:25.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,include right-wing protests and
Dialogue: 0,1:40:25.66,1:40:28.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,right-wing demonstrations in your caveat
Dialogue: 0,1:40:28.84,1:40:31.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about why not all bodies on the street
Dialogue: 0,1:40:31.03,1:40:34.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are a positive thing why is it it seemed
Dialogue: 0,1:40:34.45,1:40:36.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to me that you are saying that left-wing
Dialogue: 0,1:40:36.40,1:40:38.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,protests that Occupy movements and such
Dialogue: 0,1:40:38.80,1:40:41.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are a good thing to have and yet it
Dialogue: 0,1:40:41.56,1:40:45.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,seems that you think things I see
Dialogue: 0,1:40:45.73,1:40:47.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,protest like tea party and things aren't
Dialogue: 0,1:40:47.92,1:40:49.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,positive things to have I see what
Dialogue: 0,1:40:49.90,1:40:51.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you're saying okay I'm sorry
Dialogue: 0,1:40:51.40,1:40:53.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's okay it's a good question because
Dialogue: 0,1:40:53.02,1:40:59.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it helps me clarify something I I am I
Dialogue: 0,1:40:59.83,1:41:02.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,am in favor of the freedom of assembly I
Dialogue: 0,1:41:02.92,1:41:05.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,am very anxious right now that the
Dialogue: 0,1:41:05.68,1:41:07.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,freedom of assembly is being taken away
Dialogue: 0,1:41:07.42,1:41:11.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in many parts of the globe and that
Dialogue: 0,1:41:11.11,1:41:16.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,security Rhian logics and and and and
Dialogue: 0,1:41:16.42,1:41:18.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,state and economic interests are very
Dialogue: 0,1:41:18.64,1:41:22.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,interested in quelling freedom of
Dialogue: 0,1:41:22.57,1:41:25.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,assembly so I am in favor of freedom of
Dialogue: 0,1:41:25.72,1:41:27.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,assembly which means that I want the
Dialogue: 0,1:41:27.34,1:41:29.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,right to be enjoyed by people who are on
Dialogue: 0,1:41:29.11,1:41:32.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the left and the right and I probably
Dialogue: 0,1:41:32.11,1:41:33.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,even defend the right of some pretty
Dialogue: 0,1:41:33.91,1:41:36.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,horrible people to collect and you know
Dialogue: 0,1:41:36.58,1:41:38.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on the street okay but the fact that I
Dialogue: 0,1:41:38.80,1:41:41.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,defend the right of right-wing people to
Dialogue: 0,1:41:41.44,1:41:42.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,collect on the street of including the
Dialogue: 0,1:41:42.94,1:41:45.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Tea Party as I absolutely do because you
Dialogue: 0,1:41:45.79,1:41:48.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,know there's a big liberal core to my
Dialogue: 0,1:41:48.28,1:41:50.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,left ism
Dialogue: 0,1:41:52.17,1:41:54.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,well you know I mean we are what we are
Dialogue: 0,1:41:54.79,1:41:57.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,right we come out of I would come out of
Dialogue: 0,1:41:57.16,1:41:59.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,complex histories but anyway there is
Dialogue: 0,1:41:59.38,1:42:02.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one I do defend their right and I would
Dialogue: 0,1:42:02.22,1:42:04.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,right against it and I would a pour it
Dialogue: 0,1:42:04.93,1:42:06.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I would hate it but I wouldn't take
Dialogue: 0,1:42:06.64,1:42:09.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the right away right and and that's
Dialogue: 0,1:42:09.31,1:42:15.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's the line that's the line so and
Dialogue: 0,1:42:15.46,1:42:17.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when I started the talk I said look I'm
Dialogue: 0,1:42:17.62,1:42:20.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not rejoicing I'm not gonna rejoice
Dialogue: 0,1:42:20.47,1:42:22.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about the Tea Party on the street
Dialogue: 0,1:42:22.30,1:42:25.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm not going to oppose it legally and
Dialogue: 0,1:42:25.03,1:42:28.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm going to oppose any legal effort to
Dialogue: 0,1:42:28.39,1:42:32.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,restrain them from from from going on
Dialogue: 0,1:42:32.35,1:42:33.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the street but I'm not gonna I'm not
Dialogue: 0,1:42:33.88,1:42:36.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,gonna I'm not gonna celebrate that's all
Dialogue: 0,1:42:36.82,1:42:39.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,okay basically out of time but you've
Dialogue: 0,1:42:39.79,1:42:41.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,been very patient so if we can make this
Dialogue: 0,1:42:41.92,1:42:46.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,really quick that would be terrific okay
Dialogue: 0,1:42:46.84,1:42:50.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,well I I was interested in you're
Dialogue: 0,1:42:50.14,1:42:52.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,talking about vulnerability as a pre
Dialogue: 0,1:42:52.30,1:42:59.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,contractual thing that we share okay ah
Dialogue: 0,1:42:59.32,1:43:03.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there okay sorry so you you were
Dialogue: 0,1:43:03.93,1:43:06.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,saying that vulnerability is a pre
Dialogue: 0,1:43:06.37,1:43:09.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,contractual shared State I'm interested
Dialogue: 0,1:43:09.52,1:43:13.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in thinking about the language of
Dialogue: 0,1:43:13.81,1:43:17.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,contracts in the context of what you're
Dialogue: 0,1:43:17.23,1:43:18.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,saying cuz it seems in a certain way
Dialogue: 0,1:43:18.37,1:43:19.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,contracts our way of denying
Dialogue: 0,1:43:19.99,1:43:23.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,vulnerability in that they imply we have
Dialogue: 0,1:43:23.32,1:43:27.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,control like we get to say this is what
Dialogue: 0,1:43:27.76,1:43:28.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we're entering into and then we're
Dialogue: 0,1:43:28.75,1:43:30.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,taking responsibility of what happens to
Dialogue: 0,1:43:30.49,1:43:31.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,us
Dialogue: 0,1:43:31.51,1:43:34.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it caught allows for a just world
Dialogue: 0,1:43:34.21,1:43:38.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hypothesis and it this sort of
Dialogue: 0,1:43:38.47,1:43:41.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,contractual 'ti which easily ends up in
Dialogue: 0,1:43:41.25,1:43:44.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,shoring up neoliberalism often invades
Dialogue: 0,1:43:44.86,1:43:47.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,language of consent whatever sort of
Dialogue: 0,1:43:47.26,1:43:50.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,consent sexual consents medical consent
Dialogue: 0,1:43:50.62,1:43:57.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I think that they're sorry
Dialogue: 0,1:43:58.37,1:44:00.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,obviously there's something really
Dialogue: 0,1:44:00.18,1:44:01.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,important ethically about consensual 'ti
Dialogue: 0,1:44:01.98,1:44:04.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and about consensus and I'm wondering if
Dialogue: 0,1:44:04.65,1:44:10.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you have any insight into how we should
Dialogue: 0,1:44:10.17,1:44:13.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,talk about that that gets away from this
Dialogue: 0,1:44:13.56,1:44:15.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,problematic element of contractual 'ti
Dialogue: 0,1:44:15.75,1:44:18.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yeah thank you
Dialogue: 0,1:44:18.54,1:44:20.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've been I've been working on that
Dialogue: 0,1:44:20.49,1:44:23.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,issue in the last weeks I gave us
Dialogue: 0,1:44:23.73,1:44:26.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,seminar on sexual consent actually in
Dialogue: 0,1:44:26.76,1:44:28.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,France where we we talked a bit about
Dialogue: 0,1:44:28.86,1:44:32.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Dominique strauss-kahn issue and and
Dialogue: 0,1:44:32.64,1:44:35.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and and how consent was projected and
Dialogue: 0,1:44:35.40,1:44:40.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what consent means so there's lots to be
Dialogue: 0,1:44:40.62,1:44:43.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,said but but let me let me just say two
Dialogue: 0,1:44:43.38,1:44:45.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,things that I think are relevant for us
Dialogue: 0,1:44:45.92,1:44:49.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this evening the first is how do we
Dialogue: 0,1:44:49.77,1:44:53.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,think about global obligations of
Dialogue: 0,1:44:53.12,1:44:56.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,obligations that we we have to one
Dialogue: 0,1:44:56.64,1:45:02.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,another as inhabitants of the of the
Dialogue: 0,1:45:02.97,1:45:08.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,globe when when we're not necessarily
Dialogue: 0,1:45:08.01,1:45:09.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,part of the same nation state or we're
Dialogue: 0,1:45:09.69,1:45:11.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not necessarily part of the same
Dialogue: 0,1:45:11.19,1:45:13.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,community or we've never entered into an
Dialogue: 0,1:45:13.80,1:45:18.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,explicit contract with one another and
Dialogue: 0,1:45:18.03,1:45:21.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it seems to me that it cannot be the
Dialogue: 0,1:45:21.12,1:45:22.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,case that were only ethically obligated
Dialogue: 0,1:45:22.65,1:45:25.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to those with whom we are already
Dialogue: 0,1:45:25.04,1:45:30.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,contracted ie those who belong to the
Dialogue: 0,1:45:30.78,1:45:33.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,same nation state that we have agreed to
Dialogue: 0,1:45:33.54,1:45:37.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,join or that or that we've been born
Dialogue: 0,1:45:37.02,1:45:42.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,into and and and legalized within we we
Dialogue: 0,1:45:42.51,1:45:45.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have to think about ethical obligations
Dialogue: 0,1:45:45.66,1:45:47.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and political obligations in ways that
Dialogue: 0,1:45:47.67,1:45:51.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,exceed the terms of contract it's also
Dialogue: 0,1:45:51.81,1:45:55.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,true that most forms of contract not all
Dialogue: 0,1:45:55.67,1:45:58.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,tend to individualize those who enter
Dialogue: 0,1:45:58.86,1:46:02.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,into them or certain forms of social
Dialogue: 0,1:46:02.01,1:46:04.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,contract tend to produce ideas of a
Dialogue: 0,1:46:04.56,1:46:07.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,nation-state which are exclusionary so
Dialogue: 0,1:46:07.07,1:46:09.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that Purdue
Dialogue: 0,1:46:09.00,1:46:11.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- two problems well what are my extra
Dialogue: 0,1:46:11.85,1:46:14.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,national obligations and Who am I
Dialogue: 0,1:46:14.73,1:46:17.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when I am NOT just an individual am I
Dialogue: 0,1:46:17.04,1:46:21.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not related to others in ways for which
Dialogue: 0,1:46:21.36,1:46:24.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I need a different kind of political
Dialogue: 0,1:46:24.00,1:46:28.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,vocabulary so so that seems terribly
Dialogue: 0,1:46:28.46,1:46:31.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,important but you know it's always
Dialogue: 0,1:46:31.17,1:46:39.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,possible to say well I mean if you think
Dialogue: 0,1:46:39.24,1:46:41.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about what happens in sexually
Dialogue: 0,1:46:41.31,1:46:43.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,progressive circles where people they
Dialogue: 0,1:46:43.62,1:46:46.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,make arrangements to have this or that
Dialogue: 0,1:46:46.41,1:46:48.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,kind of sexual relationship and they
Dialogue: 0,1:46:48.30,1:46:50.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,come enter into a contract and everyone
Dialogue: 0,1:46:50.34,1:46:52.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,agrees and then you know something
Dialogue: 0,1:46:52.95,1:46:55.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,happens and someone finds that they're
Dialogue: 0,1:46:55.02,1:46:56.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,horribly vulnerable in a way that they
Dialogue: 0,1:46:56.46,1:47:00.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,had no idea they they didn't expect it
Dialogue: 0,1:47:00.12,1:47:01.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all and they can't be in that contract
Dialogue: 0,1:47:01.68,1:47:03.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and whatever made them think they could
Dialogue: 0,1:47:03.54,1:47:11.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,be in that contract and I mean it's
Dialogue: 0,1:47:11.16,1:47:15.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,something we all know right and and it's
Dialogue: 0,1:47:15.33,1:47:17.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a kind of and I also think it's a kind
Dialogue: 0,1:47:17.34,1:47:20.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of leftist conceit but oh well we can
Dialogue: 0,1:47:20.31,1:47:23.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,find the ideal form and then we we
Dialogue: 0,1:47:23.31,1:47:25.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,consent to the ideal form and then we
Dialogue: 0,1:47:25.20,1:47:26.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,live the ideal form because we think
Dialogue: 0,1:47:26.76,1:47:28.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's right and then we find that it's
Dialogue: 0,1:47:28.20,1:47:35.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,radically unlivable so so what would it
Dialogue: 0,1:47:35.04,1:47:37.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,mean what would it mean say in a context
Dialogue: 0,1:47:37.47,1:47:39.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like that to return to a different kind
Dialogue: 0,1:47:39.30,1:47:41.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of question like what are the conditions
Dialogue: 0,1:47:41.40,1:47:44.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of livability right what are the
Dialogue: 0,1:47:44.91,1:47:46.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,conditions of livability and how to
Dialogue: 0,1:47:46.77,1:47:48.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,communicate them and how to live them
Dialogue: 0,1:47:48.60,1:47:51.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,right which without going back to
Dialogue: 0,1:47:51.65,1:47:54.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,completely conservative structures or
Dialogue: 0,1:47:54.69,1:47:56.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thinking oh I guess that Social Forum is
Dialogue: 0,1:47:56.79,1:47:59.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,actually right no I mean it's really -
Dialogue: 0,1:47:59.58,1:48:01.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,instead of asking what what it is
Dialogue: 0,1:48:01.53,1:48:03.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,rationally I believe I should be able to
Dialogue: 0,1:48:03.33,1:48:06.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,do what are the concrete conditions of
Dialogue: 0,1:48:06.00,1:48:07.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,livability I want to say that this
Dialogue: 0,1:48:07.83,1:48:09.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,question is something that not only
Dialogue: 0,1:48:09.15,1:48:11.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,pertains to sexual life and the
Dialogue: 0,1:48:11.31,1:48:13.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,organization of sexuality but it does
Dialogue: 0,1:48:13.59,1:48:17.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,pertain to the organization of our our
Dialogue: 0,1:48:17.22,1:48:21.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ethical and our political bonds
Dialogue: 0,1:48:21.92,1:48:24.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,especially with those you know we don't
Dialogue: 0,1:48:24.95,1:48:28.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,know or never chose right I mean in a
Dialogue: 0,1:48:28.13,1:48:31.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,way we are we are vulnerable in ways
Dialogue: 0,1:48:31.19,1:48:34.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we can't that can't be accommodated
Dialogue: 0,1:48:34.93,1:48:42.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by ideas of of choice and knowledge that
Dialogue: 0,1:48:42.26,1:48:44.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are presupposed by contract we are we
Dialogue: 0,1:48:44.78,1:48:48.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are already and before any question of
Dialogue: 0,1:48:48.41,1:48:52.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,choice vulnerable to others in ways that
Dialogue: 0,1:48:52.15,1:48:55.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that that in effect define us as bodily
Dialogue: 0,1:48:55.82,1:48:58.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and social beings and I'm trying to
Dialogue: 0,1:48:58.19,1:49:00.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,think what does that say about our
Dialogue: 0,1:49:00.20,1:49:02.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,global responsibilities and how might we
Dialogue: 0,1:49:02.57,1:49:05.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,rethink ourselves as as global creatures
Dialogue: 0,1:49:05.87,1:49:08.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in in light of such a claim thank you
Dialogue: 0,1:49:08.99,1:49:11.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for your attention
Dialogue: 0,1:49:38.66,1:49:41.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Judith
Dialogue: 0,1:49:46.56,1:49:50.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,judith on behalf of all of us thank you
Dialogue: 0,1:49:50.52,1:49:52.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for an extraordinary evening an
Dialogue: 0,1:49:52.83,1:49:54.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,extraordinary conversation Thank You
Dialogue: 0,1:49:54.99,1:49:57.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,charlie in the Georgia Strait and on
Dialogue: 0,1:49:57.48,1:49:59.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,behalf of the Peter wall stitute for
Dialogue: 0,1:49:59.46,1:50:01.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Advanced Studies thank you to all of you
Dialogue: 0,1:50:01.86,1:50:05.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for joining in the conversation and
Dialogue: 0,1:50:05.03,1:50:07.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thank you for coming and safe travels
Dialogue: 0,1:50:07.80,1:50:11.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,back and stay posted for future lectures
Dialogue: 0,1:50:11.46,1:50:14.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the wall exchange ones coming up in
Dialogue: 0,1:50:14.28,1:50:17.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,October about the cosmic universe in the
Dialogue: 0,1:50:17.43,0:00:00.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,21st century but thank you again tutor