WEBVTT 00:00:05.790 --> 00:00:09.672 The Snarky Apologist 00:00:10.733 --> 00:00:19.400 The Greg Stafford - Snarky Apologist Debate 00:00:19.400 --> 00:00:21.549 What we ALL do is IMPORTANT! Can we ALL just Lighten up a bit, 00:00:21.549 --> 00:00:23.236 maybe laugh at ourselves? And let's not take ourselves 00:00:23.252 --> 00:00:28.191 Since Jesus says the father is the only true God in John 17:3, if that is so.. 00:00:28.222 --> 00:00:32.107 what kind of God is Jesus? A false God? Some other kind of God? 00:00:32.154 --> 00:00:35.243 Or did he not really mean only when he said only in John 17:3? 00:00:35.243 --> 00:00:39.705 This guy is.. this was... Bob the tomato. The green guy you are talking about, 00:00:39.705 --> 00:00:45.190 that was Pete the pickle.. was the green guy. 00:00:46.790 --> 00:00:48.582 hum... i'm sorry.. 00:00:49.721 --> 00:00:53.835 uh... what was the question? My bad, i'm sorry. What was the question? 00:00:53.850 --> 00:00:55.842 What kind of God is Jesus? 00:00:55.842 --> 00:00:56.574 What? 00:00:56.574 --> 00:00:57.488 What kind of God is Jesus? 00:00:57.488 --> 00:00:58.310 hďż˝?.. 00:00:58.356 --> 00:00:59.546 What kind of God is Jesus? 00:00:59.715 --> 00:01:01.756 What kind of question is that? 00:01:01.756 --> 00:01:03.761 So the father is the only true God? 00:01:03.761 --> 00:01:06.909 Absolutely, absolutely... in a sense 00:01:06.909 --> 00:01:08.238 And what sense is that? 00:01:08.269 --> 00:01:09.456 I have absolutely no idea. 00:01:12.118 --> 00:01:18.659 I all know is that my pastor tells me this and..you know... 00:01:18.766 --> 00:01:21.238 .. everything he tells me i know is accurate.. 00:01:21.269 --> 00:01:24.906 he's schizophrenic, but everything he tells me is truthful. 00:01:24.906 --> 00:01:28.976 That's an assumption that it refers to both of them collectively and not one individually. 00:01:28.976 --> 00:01:31.479 What king if crank.. what kind of waste critique is that? 00:01:31.587 --> 00:01:33.461 You don't even know the man.. 00:01:33.461 --> 00:01:39.642 But i think the scriptures are clear that Jesus is Yahweh, and you can see that in scriptures 00:01:39.642 --> 00:01:42.462 i think is very clear, it's clear to anybody. 00:01:42.462 --> 00:01:43.165 For you? 00:01:43.165 --> 00:01:43.896 For who? 00:01:43.896 --> 00:01:44.642 For you? 00:01:44.642 --> 00:01:45.326 For me? 00:01:45.326 --> 00:01:46.657 For you? 00:01:46.672 --> 00:01:47.193 I asked you first 00:01:47.193 --> 00:01:52.320 The point is though, is Jesus correct.. the father is the only true God? 00:01:52.320 --> 00:01:53.644 What other kind of God would He be? 00:01:53.660 --> 00:01:55.454 Well...but that's the question. 00:01:55.454 --> 00:01:56.441 What's the question? 00:01:56.441 --> 00:01:57.617 The father is the only true God. 00:01:57.617 --> 00:01:58.885 But that's a statement not a question isn't it? 00:01:58.885 --> 00:02:01.010 Well... but that's the question. 00:02:01.010 --> 00:02:03.358 The question is is that a question or a statement? 00:02:03.358 --> 00:02:05.462 Then what kind of God is Jesus? 00:02:05.462 --> 00:02:07.366 True God? 00:02:07.366 --> 00:02:09.940 We all know what only true God means. 00:02:09.940 --> 00:02:13.283 He's he correct when he said that the father was the only true God? 00:02:13.283 --> 00:02:15.625 I never knew Jesus to be wrong about anything. 00:02:15.625 --> 00:02:18.965 I assume there is one category of true God, and i assume there is one person 00:02:18.965 --> 00:02:21.604 in that category, the father. That was what Jesus said. Do you agree with it? 00:02:21.604 --> 00:02:24.286 Never assume... when you assume you make an ass of yourself. 00:02:24.286 --> 00:02:26.674 That's what my grandfather used to tell me. 00:02:26.674 --> 00:02:28.632 You don't agree with it. 00:02:28.632 --> 00:02:30.938 See! it works! 00:02:30.938 --> 00:02:34.169 How many persons did Jesus placed in the category of true God? 00:02:34.169 --> 00:02:36.124 Don't know. Wasn't there. 00:02:36.124 --> 00:02:40.356 So, i'm still not quite clear. We have a fairly simple statement 00:02:40.356 --> 00:02:42.810 made by Jesus, the father is the only true God. 00:02:42.810 --> 00:02:46.052 We have a category. True God. We have a member, the father. 00:02:46.052 --> 00:02:50.671 Are there any other members to the category of true God according to Jesus statement 00:02:50.671 --> 00:02:52.075 in John 17:3 ? 00:02:52.075 --> 00:02:53.947 You're basing your statements on the assumption that 00:02:53.947 --> 00:02:55.477 you know what you're talking about. 00:02:55.477 --> 00:02:57.047 I'm not assuming any such thing. 00:02:57.047 --> 00:02:59.855 Are rightfully so.. imagine.. dragging me down here in the middle of the afternoon 00:02:59.855 --> 00:03:02.537 when i should be taking my nap.. what's the matter with this? What's the world coming to? 00:03:02.537 --> 00:03:06.114 If i had an yard stick i would beat you in every inch of your life. 00:03:06.114 --> 00:03:08.192 Disgusting that what is is. 00:03:08.192 --> 00:03:10.097 Now, what was the question again? 00:03:10.097 --> 00:03:14.114 Are there any other members in the category of the true God other than the father 00:03:14.114 --> 00:03:15.849 according to Jesus in John 17:3? 00:03:15.849 --> 00:03:17.517 Who is that question for? 00:03:17.517 --> 00:03:18.219 For you. 00:03:18.219 --> 00:03:18.940 Me? 00:03:18.940 --> 00:03:19.793 You. 00:03:20.978 --> 00:03:23.708 That's a good question, can i comeback here next week? 00:03:24.184 --> 00:03:28.354 Who is identified as the only true God according to Jesus in John 17:3 ? 00:03:28.354 --> 00:03:30.493 Wrong! who's on first. 00:03:30.493 --> 00:03:33.167 You're making an argument on a different point. 00:03:33.167 --> 00:03:34.638 You're the one that brought it up! 00:03:34.638 --> 00:03:38.186 My point is that on John 17:3 we're talking about the true, 00:03:38.186 --> 00:03:40.860 the only true God. Monotheism. 00:03:40.860 --> 00:03:45.239 Who is identified as the only true God? The father. 00:03:49.823 --> 00:03:54.103 And you knew that all along.. he knew that all along too didn't he? You're a tricky devil. 00:03:54.103 --> 00:03:56.420 You've got to watch this guy 00:03:59.144 --> 00:04:02.460 So... what's it to you arius? Were are you going with this? 00:04:02.460 --> 00:04:06.571 If the father is the one identified as the only true God 00:04:06.571 --> 00:04:10.187 and that's monotheistic, on what basis do you change 00:04:10.187 --> 00:04:13.964 the categorization of the father is the only true God by Jesus? 00:04:15.902 --> 00:04:18.442 I didn't changed nothing men, i'm just.. 00:04:18.442 --> 00:04:22.002 listening to you blammering and eat my apple. 00:04:24.402 --> 00:04:28.765 And that one i hold against you. 00:04:28.765 --> 00:04:31.619 Jesus can tell the truth as an incarnated person 00:04:31.619 --> 00:04:34.731 that He can certainly say that the true God is more than one person. 00:04:34.731 --> 00:04:37.703 He didn't. Do you accept His statement or not? 00:04:37.703 --> 00:04:42.903 00:04:42.903 --> 00:04:44.861 How about His statement that the father is the only true God? 00:04:44.861 --> 00:04:49.876 You seem like a broken record.. listen.. either you change the subject or i'll go take a nap. 00:04:49.953 --> 00:04:53.719 We get the same result with each question. 00:04:53.719 --> 00:04:57.502 What is the name given to Jesus in Philippians 2:9 to 11, that is above every "other" name? 00:04:57.502 --> 00:04:58.735 or every name? 00:04:58.735 --> 00:05:02.784 Yes... Paul is writing to the church in Philadelphia. 00:05:02.784 --> 00:05:07.998 and i went there to a Phillies game. They have a beautiful stadium 00:05:07.998 --> 00:05:12.424 But it's actually the name is Jesus. Jesus is the name that is above all names. 00:05:12.424 --> 00:05:15.792 Don't go put the "other" in there. 00:05:15.792 --> 00:05:18.232 You guys got a hand slap before 00:05:18.232 --> 00:05:20.237 So the name Jesus is above every name? 00:05:20.237 --> 00:05:24.430 I think i just said that didn't i? Jesus is the name above every name... yes obviously. 00:05:24.430 --> 00:05:25.689 It's in the Bible. 00:05:25.689 --> 00:05:27.108 You must have missed that part. 00:05:27.108 --> 00:05:29.027 What part have i missing? 00:05:29.027 --> 00:05:30.912 From Genesis and beyond... 00:05:30.912 --> 00:05:35.252 This is the highest name in the universe even above the tetragramaton? 00:05:35.252 --> 00:05:36.090 What? 00:05:36.090 --> 00:05:36.992 The tetragramaton.. 00:05:36.992 --> 00:05:37.819 The what? 00:05:37.819 --> 00:05:38.582 The tetragramaton. 00:05:38.582 --> 00:05:40.055 grama... mega.... what? 00:05:40.055 --> 00:05:41.409 The tetragramaton. 00:05:41.409 --> 00:05:42.623 ..mega... tron... 00:05:42.623 --> 00:05:43.686 The tetragramaton. 00:05:43.686 --> 00:05:45.164 Megagraviton? 00:05:45.164 --> 00:05:47.932 Wasn't he one of the transformers? 00:05:47.932 --> 00:05:51.755 So... if.. the human.. if... so.. if.. 00:05:51.786 --> 00:05:54.878 I have no idea what you just said. What's he saying? 00:05:54.878 --> 00:05:59.387 So... if.. the human.. if... so.. if.. did he still possess... 00:05:59.402 --> 00:06:01.938 I have no idea what that man has just said. 00:06:01.938 --> 00:06:05.715 That's my point... i'm sorry... "last question".. 00:06:05.715 --> 00:06:08.757 that was the last question? "it's 10 seconds".. ah ok. 00:06:08.757 --> 00:06:16.086 I'm just gonna end in that point because we don't have the time for a significant follow up.