1 00:00:05,790 --> 00:00:09,672 The Snarky Apologist 2 00:00:10,733 --> 00:00:19,400 The Greg Stafford - Snarky Apologist Debate 3 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:21,549 What we ALL do is IMPORTANT! Can we ALL just Lighten up a bit, 4 00:00:21,549 --> 00:00:23,236 maybe laugh at ourselves? And let's not take ourselves 5 00:00:23,252 --> 00:00:28,191 Since Jesus says the father is the only true God in John 17:3, if that is so.. 6 00:00:28,222 --> 00:00:32,107 what kind of God is Jesus? A false God? Some other kind of God? 7 00:00:32,154 --> 00:00:35,243 Or did he not really mean only when he said only in John 17:3? 8 00:00:35,243 --> 00:00:39,705 This guy is.. this was... Bob the tomato. The green guy you are talking about, 9 00:00:39,705 --> 00:00:45,190 that was Pete the pickle.. was the green guy. 10 00:00:46,790 --> 00:00:48,582 hum... i'm sorry.. 11 00:00:49,721 --> 00:00:53,835 uh... what was the question? My bad, i'm sorry. What was the question? 12 00:00:53,850 --> 00:00:55,842 What kind of God is Jesus? 13 00:00:55,842 --> 00:00:56,574 What? 14 00:00:56,574 --> 00:00:57,488 What kind of God is Jesus? 15 00:00:57,488 --> 00:00:58,310 hďż˝?.. 16 00:00:58,356 --> 00:00:59,546 What kind of God is Jesus? 17 00:00:59,715 --> 00:01:01,756 What kind of question is that? 18 00:01:01,756 --> 00:01:03,761 So the father is the only true God? 19 00:01:03,761 --> 00:01:06,909 Absolutely, absolutely... in a sense 20 00:01:06,909 --> 00:01:08,238 And what sense is that? 21 00:01:08,269 --> 00:01:09,456 I have absolutely no idea. 22 00:01:12,118 --> 00:01:18,659 I all know is that my pastor tells me this and..you know... 23 00:01:18,766 --> 00:01:21,238 .. everything he tells me i know is accurate.. 24 00:01:21,269 --> 00:01:24,906 he's schizophrenic, but everything he tells me is truthful. 25 00:01:24,906 --> 00:01:28,976 That's an assumption that it refers to both of them collectively and not one individually. 26 00:01:28,976 --> 00:01:31,479 What king if crank.. what kind of waste critique is that? 27 00:01:31,587 --> 00:01:33,461 You don't even know the man.. 28 00:01:33,461 --> 00:01:39,642 But i think the scriptures are clear that Jesus is Yahweh, and you can see that in scriptures 29 00:01:39,642 --> 00:01:42,462 i think is very clear, it's clear to anybody. 30 00:01:42,462 --> 00:01:43,165 For you? 31 00:01:43,165 --> 00:01:43,896 For who? 32 00:01:43,896 --> 00:01:44,642 For you? 33 00:01:44,642 --> 00:01:45,326 For me? 34 00:01:45,326 --> 00:01:46,657 For you? 35 00:01:46,672 --> 00:01:47,193 I asked you first 36 00:01:47,193 --> 00:01:52,320 The point is though, is Jesus correct.. the father is the only true God? 37 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:53,644 What other kind of God would He be? 38 00:01:53,660 --> 00:01:55,454 Well...but that's the question. 39 00:01:55,454 --> 00:01:56,441 What's the question? 40 00:01:56,441 --> 00:01:57,617 The father is the only true God. 41 00:01:57,617 --> 00:01:58,885 But that's a statement not a question isn't it? 42 00:01:58,885 --> 00:02:01,010 Well... but that's the question. 43 00:02:01,010 --> 00:02:03,358 The question is is that a question or a statement? 44 00:02:03,358 --> 00:02:05,462 Then what kind of God is Jesus? 45 00:02:05,462 --> 00:02:07,366 True God? 46 00:02:07,366 --> 00:02:09,940 We all know what only true God means. 47 00:02:09,940 --> 00:02:13,283 He's he correct when he said that the father was the only true God? 48 00:02:13,283 --> 00:02:15,625 I never knew Jesus to be wrong about anything. 49 00:02:15,625 --> 00:02:18,965 I assume there is one category of true God, and i assume there is one person 50 00:02:18,965 --> 00:02:21,604 in that category, the father. That was what Jesus said. Do you agree with it? 51 00:02:21,604 --> 00:02:24,286 Never assume... when you assume you make an ass of yourself. 52 00:02:24,286 --> 00:02:26,674 That's what my grandfather used to tell me. 53 00:02:26,674 --> 00:02:28,632 You don't agree with it. 54 00:02:28,632 --> 00:02:30,938 See! it works! 55 00:02:30,938 --> 00:02:34,169 How many persons did Jesus placed in the category of true God? 56 00:02:34,169 --> 00:02:36,124 Don't know. Wasn't there. 57 00:02:36,124 --> 00:02:40,356 So, i'm still not quite clear. We have a fairly simple statement 58 00:02:40,356 --> 00:02:42,810 made by Jesus, the father is the only true God. 59 00:02:42,810 --> 00:02:46,052 We have a category. True God. We have a member, the father. 60 00:02:46,052 --> 00:02:50,671 Are there any other members to the category of true God according to Jesus statement 61 00:02:50,671 --> 00:02:52,075 in John 17:3 ? 62 00:02:52,075 --> 00:02:53,947 You're basing your statements on the assumption that 63 00:02:53,947 --> 00:02:55,477 you know what you're talking about. 64 00:02:55,477 --> 00:02:57,047 I'm not assuming any such thing. 65 00:02:57,047 --> 00:02:59,855 Are rightfully so.. imagine.. dragging me down here in the middle of the afternoon 66 00:02:59,855 --> 00:03:02,537 when i should be taking my nap.. what's the matter with this? What's the world coming to? 67 00:03:02,537 --> 00:03:06,114 If i had an yard stick i would beat you in every inch of your life. 68 00:03:06,114 --> 00:03:08,192 Disgusting that what is is. 69 00:03:08,192 --> 00:03:10,097 Now, what was the question again? 70 00:03:10,097 --> 00:03:14,114 Are there any other members in the category of the true God other than the father 71 00:03:14,114 --> 00:03:15,849 according to Jesus in John 17:3? 72 00:03:15,849 --> 00:03:17,517 Who is that question for? 73 00:03:17,517 --> 00:03:18,219 For you. 74 00:03:18,219 --> 00:03:18,940 Me? 75 00:03:18,940 --> 00:03:19,793 You. 76 00:03:20,978 --> 00:03:23,708 That's a good question, can i comeback here next week? 77 00:03:24,184 --> 00:03:28,354 Who is identified as the only true God according to Jesus in John 17:3 ? 78 00:03:28,354 --> 00:03:30,493 Wrong! who's on first. 79 00:03:30,493 --> 00:03:33,167 You're making an argument on a different point. 80 00:03:33,167 --> 00:03:34,638 You're the one that brought it up! 81 00:03:34,638 --> 00:03:38,186 My point is that on John 17:3 we're talking about the true, 82 00:03:38,186 --> 00:03:40,860 the only true God. Monotheism. 83 00:03:40,860 --> 00:03:45,239 Who is identified as the only true God? The father. 84 00:03:49,823 --> 00:03:54,103 And you knew that all along.. he knew that all along too didn't he? You're a tricky devil. 85 00:03:54,103 --> 00:03:56,420 You've got to watch this guy 86 00:03:59,144 --> 00:04:02,460 So... what's it to you arius? Were are you going with this? 87 00:04:02,460 --> 00:04:06,571 If the father is the one identified as the only true God 88 00:04:06,571 --> 00:04:10,187 and that's monotheistic, on what basis do you change 89 00:04:10,187 --> 00:04:13,964 the categorization of the father is the only true God by Jesus? 90 00:04:15,902 --> 00:04:18,442 I didn't changed nothing men, i'm just.. 91 00:04:18,442 --> 00:04:22,002 listening to you blammering and eat my apple. 92 00:04:24,402 --> 00:04:28,765 And that one i hold against you. 93 00:04:28,765 --> 00:04:31,619 Jesus can tell the truth as an incarnated person 94 00:04:31,619 --> 00:04:34,731 that He can certainly say that the true God is more than one person. 95 00:04:34,731 --> 00:04:37,703 He didn't. Do you accept His statement or not? 96 00:04:37,703 --> 00:04:42,903 97 00:04:42,903 --> 00:04:44,861 How about His statement that the father is the only true God? 98 00:04:44,861 --> 00:04:49,876 You seem like a broken record.. listen.. either you change the subject or i'll go take a nap. 99 00:04:49,953 --> 00:04:53,719 We get the same result with each question. 100 00:04:53,719 --> 00:04:57,502 What is the name given to Jesus in Philippians 2:9 to 11, that is above every "other" name? 101 00:04:57,502 --> 00:04:58,735 or every name? 102 00:04:58,735 --> 00:05:02,784 Yes... Paul is writing to the church in Philadelphia. 103 00:05:02,784 --> 00:05:07,998 and i went there to a Phillies game. They have a beautiful stadium 104 00:05:07,998 --> 00:05:12,424 But it's actually the name is Jesus. Jesus is the name that is above all names. 105 00:05:12,424 --> 00:05:15,792 Don't go put the "other" in there. 106 00:05:15,792 --> 00:05:18,232 You guys got a hand slap before 107 00:05:18,232 --> 00:05:20,237 So the name Jesus is above every name? 108 00:05:20,237 --> 00:05:24,430 I think i just said that didn't i? Jesus is the name above every name... yes obviously. 109 00:05:24,430 --> 00:05:25,689 It's in the Bible. 110 00:05:25,689 --> 00:05:27,108 You must have missed that part. 111 00:05:27,108 --> 00:05:29,027 What part have i missing? 112 00:05:29,027 --> 00:05:30,912 From Genesis and beyond... 113 00:05:30,912 --> 00:05:35,252 This is the highest name in the universe even above the tetragramaton? 114 00:05:35,252 --> 00:05:36,090 What? 115 00:05:36,090 --> 00:05:36,992 The tetragramaton.. 116 00:05:36,992 --> 00:05:37,819 The what? 117 00:05:37,819 --> 00:05:38,582 The tetragramaton. 118 00:05:38,582 --> 00:05:40,055 grama... mega.... what? 119 00:05:40,055 --> 00:05:41,409 The tetragramaton. 120 00:05:41,409 --> 00:05:42,623 ..mega... tron... 121 00:05:42,623 --> 00:05:43,686 The tetragramaton. 122 00:05:43,686 --> 00:05:45,164 Megagraviton? 123 00:05:45,164 --> 00:05:47,932 Wasn't he one of the transformers? 124 00:05:47,932 --> 00:05:51,755 So... if.. the human.. if... so.. if.. 125 00:05:51,786 --> 00:05:54,878 I have no idea what you just said. What's he saying? 126 00:05:54,878 --> 00:05:59,387 So... if.. the human.. if... so.. if.. did he still possess... 127 00:05:59,402 --> 00:06:01,938 I have no idea what that man has just said. 128 00:06:01,938 --> 00:06:05,715 That's my point... i'm sorry... "last question".. 129 00:06:05,715 --> 00:06:08,757 that was the last question? "it's 10 seconds".. ah ok. 130 00:06:08,757 --> 00:06:16,086 I'm just gonna end in that point because we don't have the time for a significant follow up.