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Barry, do you think we should do something on here?
I think I might want to do a tag back over there.

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BARRY MCGEE: Okay.

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[BOTH LAUGHING]


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KILGALLEN: We're nervous. [LAUGHS]

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Ok, you guys can look at something else for a while. [LAUGHS]

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Give her a stick.

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KILGALLEN: You want me to go up there?
MCGEE: Okay.

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KILGALLEN: There are random women who write on trains, but there's one-offs that I might see.

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But, there's a woman who writes 'Judi Wynn' and I think I know where she works.

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There's a woman who writes 'Batwoman' and I think she's from Oregon somewhere.

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Yeah, there's not that many women who do it, at all.
It's definitely mostly men.

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MCGEE: Do you want to go look at the trains?

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[SOUND OF A TRAIN APPROACHING]


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KILGALLEN: Oh shit, Barry, we should be...
They're going to see us then, no?

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MCGEE: It's alright.
KILGALLEN: Alright, let's go walk out then.

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MCGEE: Let's wave to them.


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KILGALLEN: Oh, because these trucks aren't even running.

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[SOUND OF TRAIN HORN]

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KILGALLEN: I do have a lot of heroines,
As well as a lot of heroes too, but...


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I like to paint images of women who I find inspiring,


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And I don't like to choose people that everybody knows.

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I like to choose people that just do small things, and yet somehow hit me in my heart.

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[SOUND OF A VIOLIN, ACOUSTIC GUITAR, AND BANJO GETTING READY TO PLAY]

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I got interested in "old-time" music, particularly the banjo, and

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In the beginning I would hear somebody playing music on a record,

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And then I wouldn't know what they look like at all but I would imagine what they look like, and draw it.

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[SOUND OF BANJO STRUMMING]


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The records I would buy would have no women on them, ever. And Matokie Slaughter, for instance,


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She was the first woman I ever saw on a record, on an old-time record.

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You know, I couldn't believe I had found a woman on there, and I didn't know it was a woman for a while,

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Because the name 'Matokie', I didn't know what gender that was.

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[SOUND OF BANJO STRUMMING CONTINUES]

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Algia Mae Hinton, she plays kind of bluesy guitar.


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[SOUND OF ACOUSTIC GUITAR PLAYING A BLUES RIFF WITH FEET TAPPING ON A STAGE]

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I saw her on a tape all about flat-footing and buck dancing.

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She would do the flat-footing, and then she would turn around and put her guitar on her back,

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And play the guitar, and dance, and it was pretty incredible.

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[SOUND OF ACOUSTIC GUITAR PLAYING A BLUES RIFF WITH FEET TAPPING ON A STAGE CONTINUES]

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She's a single mother and supports her children by playing her music.

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[SOUND OF ACOUSTIC GUITAR AND FEMALE VOCALIST SINGING 'LOS CORONES']


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Or, I used to read a lot about the history of swimming, and...

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The first woman to win the Olympics in 1912 was a woman named Fanny Durack.


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And she was from Australia, and she wore a full wool suit.

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And the reason she won is because she swam the Australian crawl

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And the other women weren't swimming that way.

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[SOUND OF ACOUSTIC GUITAR AND FEMALE VOCALIST CONTINUES]

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When I get down and don't feel like doing art, and I feel like giving it up,

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Then the thing that keeps me going is the fact that
Maybe somebody will learn from what I'm doing.

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When you put your work out there and somebody comes up to you and thanks you for doing it,


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And especially when young people come up and thank me, that is why I do work.

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And I especially hope, you know, to inspire young women.


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Because I often feel like so much emphasis is put on how beautiful you are, and how thin you are,

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and not a lot of emphasis is put on what you can do and how smart you are.

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I'd like to change the emphasis of what's important when looking at a woman