0:00:01.523,0:00:02.960 Twice a week, 0:00:02.984,0:00:05.492 I drive from my home near Tijuana, Mexico, 0:00:05.516,0:00:08.674 over the US border,[br]to my office in San Diego. 0:00:08.698,0:00:12.854 The stark contrast between the poverty[br]and desperation on one side of the border 0:00:12.878,0:00:14.737 and the conspicuous wealth on the other 0:00:14.761,0:00:16.449 always feels jarring. 0:00:16.473,0:00:19.203 But what makes this contrast[br]feel even starker 0:00:19.227,0:00:22.514 is when I pass by the building[br]that those of us who work on the border 0:00:22.538,0:00:24.855 unaffectionately refer to[br]as the black hole. 0:00:24.879,0:00:27.316 The black hole is the Customs[br]and Border Protection, 0:00:27.340,0:00:28.641 or CBP facility, 0:00:28.665,0:00:30.466 at the San Ysidro port of entry, 0:00:30.490,0:00:32.879 right next to a luxury outlet mall. 0:00:32.903,0:00:34.975 It's also where, at any one time, 0:00:34.999,0:00:36.791 there's likely 800 immigrants 0:00:36.815,0:00:40.259 locked in freezing, filthy,[br]concrete cells below the building. 0:00:40.609,0:00:43.291 Up top: shopping bags and frappuccinos. 0:00:43.315,0:00:47.093 Downstairs: the reality[br]of the US immigration system. 0:00:47.117,0:00:50.212 And it's where, one day[br]in September of 2018, 0:00:50.236,0:00:52.465 I found myself trying to reach Anna, 0:00:52.489,0:00:56.347 a woman who CBP had recently separated[br]from her seven-year-old son. 0:00:57.101,0:00:58.412 I'm an immigration attorney 0:00:58.436,0:01:01.220 and the policy and litigation director[br]of Al Otro Lado, 0:01:01.244,0:01:05.497 a binational nonprofit helping immigrants[br]on both sides of the US-Mexico border. 0:01:05.982,0:01:09.188 We'd met Anna several weeks earlier[br]at our Tijuana office, 0:01:09.212,0:01:13.196 where she explained that she feared[br]she and her son would be killed in Mexico. 0:01:13.220,0:01:16.871 So we prepared her for the process[br]of turning herself over to CBP 0:01:16.895,0:01:18.220 to ask for asylum. 0:01:19.109,0:01:22.341 A few days after she'd gone[br]to the port of entry to ask for help, 0:01:22.365,0:01:23.947 we received a frantic phone call 0:01:23.971,0:01:26.365 from her family members[br]in the United States, 0:01:26.389,0:01:29.762 telling us that CBP officials[br]had taken Anna's son from her. 0:01:30.357,0:01:32.243 Now, not that this should matter, 0:01:32.267,0:01:34.791 but I knew that Anna's son[br]had special needs. 0:01:34.815,0:01:35.973 And once again, 0:01:35.997,0:01:38.744 this news filled me with the sense[br]of panic and foreboding 0:01:38.768,0:01:41.576 that has unfortunately become[br]a hallmark of my daily work. 0:01:42.020,0:01:44.957 I had a signed authorization[br]to act as Anna's attorney, 0:01:44.981,0:01:46.989 so I rushed over to the port of entry 0:01:47.013,0:01:48.901 to see if I could speak with my client. 0:01:49.259,0:01:52.349 Not only would CBP officials[br]not let me speak to Anna, 0:01:52.373,0:01:54.753 but they wouldn't even tell me[br]if she was there. 0:01:55.063,0:01:57.269 I went from supervisor to supervisor, 0:01:57.293,0:02:00.476 begging to submit evidence[br]of Anna's son's special needs, 0:02:00.500,0:02:02.778 but no one would even[br]talk to me about the case. 0:02:03.133,0:02:06.240 It felt surreal to watch[br]the shoppers strolling idly by 0:02:06.264,0:02:08.860 what felt like a life-and-death situation. 0:02:09.490,0:02:12.506 After several hours[br]of being stonewalled by CBP, 0:02:12.530,0:02:13.918 I left. 0:02:13.942,0:02:15.101 Several days later, 0:02:15.125,0:02:17.704 I found Anna's son[br]in the foster-care system. 0:02:17.728,0:02:19.760 But I didn't know what happened to Anna 0:02:19.784,0:02:21.133 until over a week later, 0:02:21.157,0:02:24.132 when she turned up[br]at a detention camp a few miles east. 0:02:24.458,0:02:26.871 Now, Anna didn't have a criminal record, 0:02:26.895,0:02:29.672 and she followed the law[br]when asking for asylum. 0:02:29.696,0:02:33.353 Still, immigration officials[br]held her for three more months, 0:02:33.377,0:02:35.250 until we could win her release 0:02:35.274,0:02:37.511 and help her reunify with her son. 0:02:37.893,0:02:41.162 Anna's story is not[br]the only story I could tell you. 0:02:41.186,0:02:44.037 There's Mateo, an 18-month-old boy, 0:02:44.061,0:02:46.125 who was ripped from his father's arms 0:02:46.149,0:02:48.831 and sent to a government shelter[br]thousands of miles away, 0:02:48.855,0:02:51.772 where they failed[br]to properly bathe him for months. 0:02:51.796,0:02:52.968 There's Amadou, 0:02:52.992,0:02:54.668 an unaccompanied African child, 0:02:54.692,0:02:59.759 who was held with adults for 28 days[br]in CBP's horrific facilities. 0:03:00.581,0:03:02.799 Most disturbingly, there's Maria, 0:03:02.823,0:03:07.108 a pregnant refugee who begged[br]for medical attention for eight hours 0:03:07.132,0:03:09.599 before she miscarried in CBP custody. 0:03:09.926,0:03:12.982 CBP officials held her[br]for three more weeks 0:03:13.006,0:03:15.069 before they sent her back to Mexico, 0:03:15.093,0:03:17.030 where she is being forced to wait months 0:03:17.054,0:03:19.236 for an asylum hearing[br]in the United States. 0:03:20.331,0:03:23.656 Seeing these horrors[br]day in and day out has changed me. 0:03:23.680,0:03:25.736 I used to be fun at parties, 0:03:25.760,0:03:29.343 but now, I inevitably[br]find myself telling people 0:03:29.367,0:03:32.248 about how our government[br]tortures refugees at the border 0:03:32.272,0:03:34.264 and in the detention camps. 0:03:34.288,0:03:36.074 Now, people try to change the subject 0:03:36.098,0:03:40.488 and congratulate me for the great work[br]I'm doing in helping people like Anna. 0:03:40.512,0:03:42.599 But I don't know[br]how to make them understand 0:03:42.623,0:03:46.179 that unless they start fighting,[br]harder than they ever thought possible, 0:03:46.203,0:03:49.504 we don't know which of us[br]will be the next to suffer Anna's fate. 0:03:50.337,0:03:53.022 Trump's mass separations[br]of refugee families 0:03:53.046,0:03:54.202 at the southern border 0:03:54.226,0:03:55.997 shocked the conscience of the world 0:03:56.021,0:03:58.838 and woke many to the cruelties[br]of the US immigration system. 0:03:59.307,0:04:00.466 It seems like today, 0:04:00.490,0:04:03.791 more people than ever are involved[br]in the fight for immigrant rights. 0:04:03.815,0:04:07.101 But unfortunately, the situation[br]is just not getting better. 0:04:07.749,0:04:10.685 Thousands protested[br]to end family separations, 0:04:10.709,0:04:13.185 but the government[br]is still separating families. 0:04:13.209,0:04:16.050 More than 900 children[br]have been taken from their parents 0:04:16.074,0:04:17.701 since June of 2018. 0:04:18.188,0:04:22.034 Thousands more refugee children[br]have been taken from their grandparents, 0:04:22.058,0:04:24.823 siblings and other[br]family members at the border. 0:04:24.847,0:04:26.432 Since 2017, 0:04:26.456,0:04:30.022 at least two dozen people have died[br]in immigration custody. 0:04:30.046,0:04:32.878 And more will die, including children. 0:04:34.006,0:04:37.387 Now, we lawyers can[br]and will keep filing lawsuits 0:04:37.411,0:04:40.537 to stop the government[br]from brutalizing our clients, 0:04:40.561,0:04:43.265 but we can't keep tinkering[br]around the edges of the law 0:04:43.289,0:04:46.089 if we want migrants[br]to be treated humanely. 0:04:46.614,0:04:50.720 This administration would have you believe[br]that we have to separate families 0:04:50.744,0:04:52.458 and we have to detain children, 0:04:52.482,0:04:55.553 because it will stop more refugees[br]from coming to our borders. 0:04:55.577,0:04:57.220 But we know that this isn't true. 0:04:57.244,0:04:59.149 In fact, in 2019, 0:04:59.173,0:05:01.577 the number of apprehensions[br]at our southern border 0:05:01.601,0:05:03.212 has actually gone up. 0:05:03.236,0:05:05.347 And we tell people[br]every day at the border, 0:05:05.371,0:05:07.514 "If you seek asylum in the United States, 0:05:07.538,0:05:09.212 you risk family separation, 0:05:09.236,0:05:11.560 and you risk being detained indefinitely." 0:05:11.584,0:05:14.909 But for many of them,[br]the alternative is even worse. 0:05:15.862,0:05:19.980 People seek refuge in the United States[br]for a lot of different reasons. 0:05:20.004,0:05:22.941 In Tijuana, we've met refugees[br]from over 50 countries, 0:05:22.965,0:05:24.949 speaking 14 different languages. 0:05:25.267,0:05:28.180 We meet LGBT migrants[br]from all over the world 0:05:28.204,0:05:31.061 who have never been in a country[br]in which they feel safe. 0:05:31.418,0:05:33.323 We meet women from all over the world 0:05:33.347,0:05:35.641 whose own governments[br]refuse to protect them 0:05:35.665,0:05:39.053 from brutal domestic violence[br]or repressive social norms. 0:05:39.619,0:05:41.667 Of course, we meet[br]Central American families 0:05:41.691,0:05:43.484 who are fleeing gang violence. 0:05:43.508,0:05:45.524 But we also meet Russian dissidents, 0:05:45.548,0:05:47.032 Venezuelan activists, 0:05:47.056,0:05:51.016 Christians from China, Muslims from China, 0:05:51.040,0:05:53.436 and thousands and thousands[br]of other refugees 0:05:53.460,0:05:56.006 fleeing all types[br]of persecution and torture. 0:05:56.563,0:06:00.103 Now, a lot of these people[br]would qualify as refugees 0:06:00.127,0:06:02.563 under the international legal definition. 0:06:02.871,0:06:06.196 The Refugee Convention[br]was created after World War II 0:06:06.220,0:06:09.063 to give protection to people[br]fleeing persecution 0:06:09.087,0:06:13.527 based on their race, religion,[br]nationality, political opinion 0:06:13.551,0:06:15.813 or membership[br]in a particular social group. 0:06:16.115,0:06:19.980 But even those who would be refugees[br]under the international definition 0:06:20.004,0:06:22.807 are not going to win asylum[br]in the United States. 0:06:22.831,0:06:25.029 And that's because since 2017, 0:06:25.053,0:06:29.109 the US Attorneys General have made[br]sweeping changes to asylum law, 0:06:29.133,0:06:33.101 to make sure that less people qualify[br]for protection in the United States. 0:06:33.474,0:06:36.244 Now these laws are mostly aimed[br]at Central Americans 0:06:36.268,0:06:38.101 and keeping them out of the country, 0:06:38.125,0:06:41.165 but they affect other types[br]of refugees as well. 0:06:41.498,0:06:45.450 The result is that the US[br]frequently deports refugees 0:06:45.474,0:06:47.541 to their persecution and death. 0:06:48.689,0:06:52.839 The US is also using detention[br]to try to deter refugees 0:06:52.863,0:06:55.448 and make it harder for them[br]to win their cases. 0:06:55.472,0:07:00.321 Today, there are over 55,000 immigrants[br]detained in the United States, 0:07:00.345,0:07:02.797 many in remote detention facilities, 0:07:02.821,0:07:04.551 far from any type of legal help. 0:07:04.575,0:07:06.577 And this is very important. 0:07:06.601,0:07:09.616 Because it's civil[br]and not criminal detention, 0:07:09.640,0:07:11.918 there is no public defender system, 0:07:11.942,0:07:14.831 so most detained immigrants[br]are not going to have an attorney 0:07:14.855,0:07:16.354 to help them with their cases. 0:07:16.768,0:07:18.823 An immigrant who has an attorney 0:07:18.847,0:07:21.863 is up to 10 times more likely[br]to win their case 0:07:21.887,0:07:23.287 than one who doesn't. 0:07:23.760,0:07:26.862 And as you've seen, I hate[br]to be the bearer of bad news, 0:07:26.886,0:07:30.220 but the situation is even worse[br]for refugee families today 0:07:30.244,0:07:32.673 than it was during family separation. 0:07:32.697,0:07:35.189 Since January of 2019, 0:07:35.213,0:07:36.991 the US has implemented a policy 0:07:37.015,0:07:41.038 that's forced over 40,000 refugees[br]to wait in Mexico 0:07:41.062,0:07:44.000 for asylum hearings in the United States. 0:07:44.024,0:07:46.849 These refugees, many of whom are families, 0:07:46.873,0:07:49.999 are trapped in some of the most[br]dangerous cities in the world, 0:07:50.023,0:07:51.985 where they're being raped, kidnapped 0:07:52.009,0:07:54.180 and extorted by criminal groups. 0:07:54.204,0:07:57.815 And if they survive for long enough[br]to make it to their asylum hearing, 0:07:57.839,0:08:01.179 less than one percent of them[br]are able to find an attorney 0:08:01.203,0:08:03.203 to help them with their cases. 0:08:04.363,0:08:08.923 The US government will point[br]to the lowest asylum approval rates 0:08:08.947,0:08:11.455 to argue that these people[br]are not really refugees, 0:08:11.479,0:08:15.185 when in fact, US asylum law[br]is an obstacle course 0:08:15.209,0:08:16.994 designed to make them fail. 0:08:17.018,0:08:19.967 Now not every migrant[br]at the border is a refugee. 0:08:19.991,0:08:22.078 I meet plenty of economic migrants. 0:08:22.102,0:08:25.197 For example, people who want to go[br]to the United States to work, 0:08:25.221,0:08:27.007 to pay medical bills for a parent 0:08:27.031,0:08:29.674 or school fees for a child back home. 0:08:29.698,0:08:32.709 Increasingly, I'm also meeting[br]climate refugees. 0:08:32.733,0:08:36.543 In particular, I'm meeting[br]a lot of indigenous Central Americans 0:08:36.567,0:08:39.313 who can no longer[br]sustain themselves by farming, 0:08:39.337,0:08:41.526 due to catastrophic drought in the region. 0:08:42.061,0:08:43.799 We know that today, 0:08:43.823,0:08:46.561 people are migrating[br]because of climate change, 0:08:46.585,0:08:48.776 and that more will do so in the future, 0:08:48.800,0:08:52.513 but we simply don't have a legal system[br]to deal with this type of migration. 0:08:53.522,0:08:56.841 So, it would make sense, as a start, 0:08:56.865,0:08:58.704 to expand the refugee definition 0:08:58.728,0:09:01.585 to include climate refugees, for example. 0:09:01.609,0:09:04.490 But those of us in a position[br]to advocate for those changes 0:09:04.514,0:09:06.371 are too busy suing our government 0:09:06.395,0:09:10.410 to keep the meager legal protections[br]that refugees enjoy under the current law. 0:09:10.434,0:09:12.467 And we are exhausted, 0:09:12.491,0:09:14.691 and it's almost too late to help. 0:09:15.760,0:09:16.918 And we know now 0:09:16.942,0:09:19.221 that this isn't America's problem alone. 0:09:19.245,0:09:22.490 From Australia's brutal[br]offshore detention camps 0:09:22.514,0:09:27.807 to Italy's criminalization of aid[br]to migrants drowning in the Mediterranean, 0:09:27.831,0:09:30.641 first-world countries[br]have gone to deadly lengths 0:09:30.665,0:09:33.260 to keep refugees from reaching our shores. 0:09:33.640,0:09:36.985 But they've done more[br]than restrict the refugee definition. 0:09:37.009,0:09:40.350 They've created parallel,[br]fascist-style legal systems 0:09:40.374,0:09:44.469 in which migrants have none of the rights[br]that form the basis of a democracy, 0:09:44.493,0:09:48.207 the alleged foundation of the countries[br]in which they're seeking refuge. 0:09:48.776,0:09:50.721 History shows us that the first group 0:09:50.745,0:09:54.538 to be vilified and stripped[br]of their rights is rarely the last, 0:09:54.562,0:09:57.054 and many Americans and Europeans 0:09:57.078,0:10:01.239 seem to accept an opaque[br]and unjust legal system for noncitizens, 0:10:01.263,0:10:03.001 because they think they are immune. 0:10:03.025,0:10:04.231 But eventually, 0:10:04.255,0:10:07.889 these authoritarian ideals bleed over[br]and affect citizens as well. 0:10:08.644,0:10:10.149 I learned this firsthand 0:10:10.173,0:10:13.172 when the US government placed me[br]on an illegal watch list 0:10:13.196,0:10:15.744 for my work helping[br]immigrants at the border. 0:10:16.411,0:10:18.363 One day, in January of 2019, 0:10:18.387,0:10:20.298 I was leaving my office in San Diego 0:10:20.322,0:10:22.950 and crossing the border[br]to go back to my home in Mexico. 0:10:23.609,0:10:26.912 Mexican officials, although they had[br]given me a valid visa, 0:10:26.936,0:10:29.675 stopped me and told me[br]that I couldn't enter the country 0:10:29.699,0:10:33.523 because a foreign government[br]had placed a travel alert on my passport, 0:10:33.547,0:10:36.229 designating me[br]as a national security risk. 0:10:36.253,0:10:39.993 I was detained and interrogated[br]in a filthy room for hours. 0:10:40.017,0:10:41.493 I begged the Mexican officials 0:10:41.517,0:10:44.389 to let me go back to Mexico[br]and pick up my son, 0:10:44.413,0:10:46.699 who was only 10 months old at the time. 0:10:47.515,0:10:48.675 But they refused, 0:10:48.699,0:10:51.141 and instead, they turned me over[br]to CBP officials, 0:10:51.165,0:10:53.910 where I was forced back[br]into the United States. 0:10:53.934,0:10:57.406 It took me weeks to get another visa[br]so that I could go back to Mexico, 0:10:57.430,0:11:00.065 and I went to the border, visa in hand. 0:11:00.089,0:11:02.136 But again, I was detained and interrogated 0:11:02.160,0:11:05.033 because there was still[br]a travel alert on my passport. 0:11:05.597,0:11:06.871 Shortly after, 0:11:06.895,0:11:08.928 leaked internal CBP documents 0:11:08.952,0:11:11.006 confirmed that my own government 0:11:11.030,0:11:14.174 had been complicit in issuing[br]this travel alert against me. 0:11:14.538,0:11:17.506 And since then, I haven't traveled[br]to any other countries, 0:11:17.530,0:11:19.403 because I'm afraid I'll be detained 0:11:19.427,0:11:21.760 and deported from those countries as well. 0:11:22.228,0:11:24.514 These travel restrictions, detentions 0:11:24.538,0:11:26.625 and separation from my infant son 0:11:26.649,0:11:30.727 are things I never thought[br]I would experience as a US citizen, 0:11:30.751,0:11:34.703 but I'm far from the only person[br]being criminalized for helping immigrants. 0:11:34.727,0:11:38.489 The US and other countries[br]have made it a crime to save lives, 0:11:38.513,0:11:41.442 and those of us who are simply[br]trying to do our jobs 0:11:41.466,0:11:44.914 are being forced to choose[br]between our humanity and our freedom. 0:11:45.498,0:11:47.410 And the thing that makes me so desperate 0:11:47.434,0:11:49.998 is that all of you[br]are facing the same choice, 0:11:50.022,0:11:51.903 but you don't understand it yet. 0:11:52.553,0:11:54.895 And I know there are[br]good people out there. 0:11:54.919,0:11:56.831 I saw thousands of you in the streets, 0:11:56.855,0:11:58.788 protesting family separation. 0:11:59.268,0:12:02.910 And that largely helped[br]bring about an end to the official policy. 0:12:03.588,0:12:06.461 But we know that the government[br]is still separating children. 0:12:06.485,0:12:08.525 And things are actually getting worse. 0:12:08.549,0:12:11.368 Today, the US government[br]is fighting for the right 0:12:11.392,0:12:14.826 to detain refugee children[br]indefinitely in prison camps. 0:12:15.538,0:12:16.958 This isn't over. 0:12:16.982,0:12:20.196 We cannot allow ourselves[br]to become numb or look away. 0:12:21.077,0:12:23.291 Those of us who are citizens of countries 0:12:23.315,0:12:27.220 whose policies cause detention,[br]separation and death, 0:12:27.244,0:12:29.869 need to very quickly decide[br]which side we're on. 0:12:30.401,0:12:35.259 We need to demand that our laws respect[br]the inherent dignity of all human beings, 0:12:35.283,0:12:38.584 especially refugees[br]seeking help at our borders, 0:12:38.608,0:12:41.997 but including economic migrants[br]and climate refugees. 0:12:42.719,0:12:45.501 We need to demand[br]that refugees get a fair shot 0:12:45.525,0:12:47.680 at seeking protection in our countries 0:12:47.704,0:12:50.076 by ensuring that they have[br]access to council 0:12:50.100,0:12:51.926 and by creating independent courts 0:12:51.950,0:12:55.315 that are not subject[br]to the political whims of the president. 0:12:56.069,0:12:57.847 I know it's overwhelming, 0:12:57.871,0:13:00.228 and I know this sounds cliché, but ... 0:13:01.267,0:13:03.722 we need to call[br]our elected representatives 0:13:03.746,0:13:05.412 and demand these changes. 0:13:06.094,0:13:07.674 I know you've heard this before, 0:13:07.698,0:13:09.587 but have you made the call? 0:13:09.611,0:13:11.746 We know these calls make a difference. 0:13:12.897,0:13:16.635 The dystopian immigration systems[br]being built up in first-world countries 0:13:16.659,0:13:19.223 are a test of citizens 0:13:19.247,0:13:22.545 to see how far you're willing[br]to let the government go 0:13:22.569,0:13:26.545 in taking away other people's rights[br]when you think it won't happen to you. 0:13:27.427,0:13:29.966 But when you let the government[br]take people's children 0:13:29.990,0:13:31.625 without due process 0:13:31.649,0:13:34.831 and detain people indefinitely[br]without access to council, 0:13:34.855,0:13:36.522 you are failing the test. 0:13:37.109,0:13:39.276 What's happening to immigrants now 0:13:39.300,0:13:42.934 is a preview of where we're all headed[br]if we fail to act. 0:13:43.442,0:13:44.610 Thank you. 0:13:44.634,0:13:49.730 (Applause)