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relation to activities that today
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relation to activities that today
would not attract a

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relation to activities that today
would not attract a criminal

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would not attract a criminal
sanction. Those things

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would not attract a criminal
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sanction. Those things are covered
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sanction. Those things are covered
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sanction. Those things are covered
off. Once again I thank members

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sanction. Those things are covered
off. Once again I thank members

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off. Once again I thank members for
their questions. I

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off. Once again I thank members for
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their questions. I look forward to
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their questions. I look forward to
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their questions. I look forward to
the ongoing discussion.

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the ongoing discussion.
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the ongoing discussion.
I call the Hon Clare

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the ongoing discussion.
I call the Hon Clare

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the ongoing discussion.
I call the Hon Clare Curran.

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I call the Hon Clare Curran.
Thank

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I call the Hon Clare Curran.
Thank Madam Chair. I feel

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I call the Hon Clare Curran.
Thank Madam Chair. I feel

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Thank Madam Chair. I feel proud and
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Thank Madam Chair. I feel proud and
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Thank Madam Chair. I feel proud and
hum to take a call

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Thank Madam Chair. I feel proud and
hum to take a call

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Thank Madam Chair. I feel proud and
hum to take a call on this

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Thank Madam Chair. I feel proud and
hum to take a call on this bill,

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hum to take a call on this bill,
such

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hum to take a call on this bill,
such

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hum to take a call on this bill,
such a necessary

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hum to take a call on this bill,
such a necessary

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hum to take a call on this bill,
such a necessary piece of

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such a necessary piece of
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such a necessary piece of
legislation in the healing

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such a necessary piece of
legislation in the healing

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such a necessary piece of
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legislation in the healing process
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legislation in the healing process
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legislation in the healing process
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legislation in the healing process
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legislation in the healing process
which continues around this stigma

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legislation in the healing process
which continues around this stigma

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which continues around this stigma
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which continues around this stigma
that has persisted

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which continues around this stigma
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which continues around this stigma
that has persisted despite

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which continues around this stigma
that has persisted despite the

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which continues around this stigma
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that has persisted despite the 1986
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that has persisted despite the 1986
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that has persisted despite the 1986
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that has persisted despite the 1986
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piece of legislation but the stigma
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piece of legislation but the stigma
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piece of legislation but the stigma
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piece of legislation but the stigma
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piece of legislation but the stigma
that has been suffered by

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piece of legislation but the stigma
that has been suffered by

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piece of legislation but the stigma
that has been suffered by people who

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piece of legislation but the stigma
that has been suffered by people who

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that has been suffered by people who
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that has been suffered by people who
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that has been suffered by people who
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are being punished or have felt that
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are being punished or have felt that
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are being punished or have felt that
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are being punished or have felt that
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are being punished or have felt that
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are being punished or have felt that
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they continue to be punished for
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they continue to be punished for
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being themselves by previous
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being themselves by previous
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being themselves by previous
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being themselves by previous
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criminal convictions. I feel proud
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criminal convictions. I feel proud
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criminal convictions. I feel proud
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criminal convictions. I feel proud
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criminal convictions. I feel proud
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criminal convictions. I feel proud
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of the whole of this Parliament and
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of the whole of this Parliament and
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the Parliament of New Zealand that
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the Parliament of New Zealand that
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the Parliament of New Zealand that
we are taking this step.

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the Parliament of New Zealand that
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the Parliament of New Zealand that
we are taking this step. I've got

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the Parliament of New Zealand that
we are taking this step. I've got

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we are taking this step. I've got
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we are taking this step. I've got
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we are taking this step. I've got
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we are taking this step. I've got
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we are taking this step. I've got
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we are taking this step. I've got
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some specific questions around
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some specific questions around
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some specific questions around

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which was inserted at the select
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which was inserted at the select
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which was inserted at the select
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committee process, around the
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committee process, around the
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committee process, around the
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committee process, around the
offence to require or request

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committee process, around the
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committee process, around the
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offence to require or request that
individual disregard expungement.

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offence to require or request that
individual disregard expungement. I

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individual disregard expungement. I
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individual disregard expungement. I
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individual disregard expungement. I
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individual disregard expungement. I
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note that again the purpose of the
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note that again the purpose of the
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bill to reduce prejudice, still ma
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bill to reduce prejudice, still ma
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bill to reduce prejudice, still ma
and all the other

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bill to reduce prejudice, still ma
and all the other

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bill to reduce prejudice, still ma
and all the other negative effects

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bill to reduce prejudice, still ma
and all the other negative effects

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and all the other negative effects
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and all the other negative effects
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and all the other negative effects
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and all the other negative effects
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and all the other negative effects
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and all the other negative effects
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arising from a conviction for
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arising from a conviction for
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arising from a conviction for
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historical homosexual offence, but
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historical homosexual offence, but
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historical homosexual offence, but
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historical homosexual offence, but
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historical homosexual offence, but
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historical homosexual offence, but
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the select committee obviously felt
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the select committee obviously felt
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the select committee obviously felt
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the select committee obviously felt
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concerned enough to want to insert a
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concerned enough to want to insert a
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concerned enough to want to insert a
new clause. I don't know whether

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concerned enough to want to insert a
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new clause. I don't know whether
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new clause. I don't know whether
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new clause. I don't know whether
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new clause. I don't know whether
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that was as a result of good work
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that was as a result of good work
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that was as a result of good work
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that was as a result of good work
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just by the select committee
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just by the select committee
members, thinking

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members, thinking of the unintended
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members, thinking of the unintended
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members, thinking of the unintended
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members, thinking of the unintended
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consequences or whether this came
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consequences or whether this came
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from submissions, the 37
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from submissions, the 37
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from submissions, the 37
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submissions, but the concern that in
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submissions, but the concern that in
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submissions, but the concern that in
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submissions, but the concern that in
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submissions, but the concern that in
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some situations even if a conviction
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some situations even if a conviction
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some situations even if a conviction
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had been successfully expunged that
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had been successfully expunged that
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people might be required to disclose
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people might be required to disclose
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people might be required to disclose
the fact of the

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people might be required to disclose
the fact of the conviction.

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people might be required to disclose
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people might be required to disclose
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people might be required to disclose
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the fact of the conviction. So the
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the fact of the conviction. So the
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the fact of the conviction. So the
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the fact of the conviction. So the
insertion of clause

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the fact of the conviction. So the
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the fact of the conviction. So the
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the fact of the conviction. So the
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insertion of clause 13 (a) makes it
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insertion of clause 13 (a) makes it
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insertion of clause 13 (a) makes it
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insertion of clause 13 (a) makes it
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an explicit offence to require or
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an explicit offence to require or
request an individual to

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an explicit offence to require or
request an individual to

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request an individual to disregard
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request an individual to disregard
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request an individual to disregard
the effect of expungement under

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request an individual to disregard
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the effect of expungement under this
bill. So

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the effect of expungement under this
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the effect of expungement under this
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the effect of expungement under this
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the effect of expungement under this
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the effect of expungement under this
bill. So my question to the chair,

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bill. So my question to the chair,
to the minister in the

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bill. So my question to the chair,
to the minister in the

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to the minister in the chair is
around

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to the minister in the chair is
around

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to the minister in the chair is
around the problem

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to the minister in the chair is
around the problem

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to the minister in the chair is
around the problem definition around

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to the minister in the chair is
around the problem definition around

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around the problem definition around
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around the problem definition around

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around the problem definition around

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around the problem definition around

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around the problem definition around

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around the problem definition around

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circumstances where in actual cases
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circumstances where in actual cases
where it

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circumstances where in actual cases
where it

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circumstances where in actual cases
where it was concerned

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circumstances where in actual cases
where it was concerned this

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circumstances where in actual cases
where it was concerned this kind of

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circumstances where in actual cases
where it was concerned this kind of

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where it was concerned this kind of
behaviour

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where it was concerned this kind of
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where it was concerned this kind of
behaviour would

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where it was concerned this kind of
behaviour would occur

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where it was concerned this kind of
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where it was concerned this kind of
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behaviour would occur and also what
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behaviour would occur and also what
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behaviour would occur and also what
would be the process

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behaviour would occur and also what
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behaviour would occur and also what
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behaviour would occur and also what
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would be the process for actually
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would be the process for actually
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would be the process for actually

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would be the process for actually

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would be the process for actually

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thought that went into that and I
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thought that went into that and I
will remind

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thought that went into that and I
will remind the

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thought that went into that and I
will remind the

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thought that went into that and I
will remind the House

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thought that went into that and I
will remind the House that

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thought that went into that and I
will remind the House that

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thought that went into that and I
will remind the House that clause

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will remind the House that clause 13
(a) has two

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will remind the House that clause 13
(a) has two parts

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will remind the House that clause 13
(a) has two parts to it

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will remind the House that clause 13
(a) has two parts to it

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(a) has two parts to it and the
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(a) has two parts to it and the
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(a) has two parts to it and the
first part, the person

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(a) has two parts to it and the
first part, the person

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(a) has two parts to it and the
first part, the person commits an

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(a) has two parts to it and the
first part, the person commits an

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first part, the person commits an
offence if that person

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first part, the person commits an
offence if that person

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first part, the person commits an
offence if that person requires or

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first part, the person commits an
offence if that person requires or

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offence if that person requires or
requests that

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offence if that person requires or
requests that

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offence if that person requires or
requests that an individual

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offence if that person requires or
requests that an individual

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requests that an individual
disregards

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requests that an individual
disregards the

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requests that an individual
disregards the effective expungement

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requests that an individual
disregards the effective expungement

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disregards the effective expungement
under the act, when

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disregards the effective expungement
under the act, when

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disregards the effective expungement
under the act, when answering

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under the act, when answering a
question about

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under the act, when answering a
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question about the individual's
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question about the individual's
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question about the individual's
criminal history

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question about the individual's
criminal history or

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question about the individual's
criminal history or

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question about the individual's
criminal history or disclosing

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criminal history or disclosing
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criminal history or disclosing
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criminal history or disclosing
information concerning convictions

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criminal history or disclosing
information concerning convictions

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information concerning convictions
of the individual or both

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information concerning convictions
of the individual or both

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of the individual or both or that
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of the individual or both or that
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of the individual or both or that
they disregard

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they disregard the effective
expungement

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they disregard the effective
expungement under

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they disregard the effective
expungement under this act.

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they disregard the effective
expungement under this act. So

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they disregard the effective
expungement under this act. So it

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expungement under this act. So it
sounds

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expungement under this act. So it
sounds as if it

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expungement under this act. So it
sounds as if it

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expungement under this act. So it
sounds as if it is

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expungement under this act. So it
sounds as if it is blatant disregard

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sounds as if it is blatant disregard
for

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sounds as if it is blatant disregard
for this legislation,

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sounds as if it is blatant disregard
for this legislation,

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sounds as if it is blatant disregard
for this legislation, what it stands

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sounds as if it is blatant disregard
for this legislation, what it stands

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for this legislation, what it stands
for and there

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for this legislation, what it stands
for and there is

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for this legislation, what it stands
for and there is still the

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for this legislation, what it stands
for and there is still the

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for and there is still the prejudice
that exists

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for and there is still the prejudice
that exists partly

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for and there is still the prejudice
that exists partly

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for and there is still the prejudice
that exists partly in

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that exists partly in this
community, where there

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that exists partly in this
community, where there are

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that exists partly in this
community, where there are people

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that exists partly in this
community, where there are people

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community, where there are people
who

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community, where there are people
who would disregard and

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community, where there are people
who would disregard and if

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community, where there are people
who would disregard and if they did

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community, where there are people
who would disregard and if they did

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who would disregard and if they did
p then, as

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who would disregard and if they did
p then, as

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who would disregard and if they did
p then, as point two, that

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who would disregard and if they did
p then, as point two, that

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who would disregard and if they did
p then, as point two, that a

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p then, as point two, that a person
commits

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p then, as point two, that a person
commits

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p then, as point two, that a person
commits an offence, is liable

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p then, as point two, that a person
commits an offence, is liable

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p then, as point two, that a person
commits an offence, is liable to a

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p then, as point two, that a person
commits an offence, is liable to a

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commits an offence, is liable to a
conviction

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commits an offence, is liable to a
conviction on a fine not

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commits an offence, is liable to a
conviction on a fine not

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commits an offence, is liable to a
conviction on a fine not exceeding

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conviction on a fine not exceeding

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conviction on a fine not exceeding

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conviction on a fine not exceeding

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into how that would be enacted and
what

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into how that would be enacted and
what would

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into how that would be enacted and
what would the

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into how that would be enacted and
what would the recourse be. If

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into how that would be enacted and
what would the recourse be. If

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into how that would be enacted and
what would the recourse be. If they

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what would the recourse be. If they
wanted

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what would the recourse be. If they
wanted to get their

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what would the recourse be. If they
wanted to get their

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what would the recourse be. If they
wanted to get their conviction

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what would the recourse be. If they
wanted to get their conviction they

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wanted to get their conviction they
have

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wanted to get their conviction they
have

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wanted to get their conviction they
have to apply,

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wanted to get their conviction they
have to apply, am

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wanted to get their conviction they
have to apply, am I correct,

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wanted to get their conviction they
have to apply, am I correct,

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wanted to get their conviction they
have to apply, am I correct, to the

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wanted to get their conviction they
have to apply, am I correct, to the

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have to apply, am I correct, to the
minister and how

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have to apply, am I correct, to the
minister and how

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have to apply, am I correct, to the
minister and how do

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have to apply, am I correct, to the
minister and how do you

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minister and how do you get that
offence

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minister and how do you get that
offence

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minister and how do you get that

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minister and how do you get that

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through the minister to be referred
to

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through the minister to be referred
to the court or

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through the minister to be referred
to the court or

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through the minister to be referred
to the court or is there some other

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to the court or is there some other

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to the court or is there some other

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to the court or is there some other

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question I have for the chair on
this

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question I have for the chair on
this bill.

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question I have for the chair on
this bill. I

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question I have for the chair on
this bill. I

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question I have for the chair on
this bill. I certainly

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question I have for the chair on
this bill. I certainly am not

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this bill. I certainly am not
disagreeing

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this bill. I certainly am not
disagreeing with

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this bill. I certainly am not
disagreeing with

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this bill. I certainly am not
disagreeing with clause 13

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this bill. I certainly am not
disagreeing with clause 13

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disagreeing with clause 13 (a), it
obviously

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disagreeing with clause 13 (a), it
obviously

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disagreeing with clause 13 (a), it
obviously showed good thinking by

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disagreeing with clause 13 (a), it
obviously showed good thinking by

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obviously showed good thinking by
the

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obviously showed good thinking by
the select

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obviously showed good thinking by
the select committee members, but

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obviously showed good thinking by
the select committee members, but

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the select committee members, but I,
on reading

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the select committee members, but I,
on reading

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the select committee members, but I,
on reading through it, and

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the select committee members, but I,
on reading through it, and

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on reading through it, and of course
not having

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on reading through it, and of course
not having

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on reading through it, and of course
not having been at the

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on reading through it, and of course
not having been at the

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not having been at the select
committee, am

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not having been at the select
committee, am unsure

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not having been at the select
committee, am unsure about

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not having been at the select
committee, am unsure about how

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committee, am unsure about how that
actually played out.

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committee, am unsure about how that
actually played out.

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committee, am unsure about how that
actually played out. Other

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actually played out. Other than
that,

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actually played out. Other than
that,

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actually played out. Other than
that, this is t

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actually played out. Other than
that, this is t

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that, this is t other than having
that

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that, this is t other than having
that question

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that, this is t other than having
that question answered, this

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that, this is t other than having
that question answered, this

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that, this is t other than having
that question answered, this is

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that, this is t other than having
that question answered, this is an

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that, this is t other than having
that question answered, this is an

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that question answered, this is an
extremely important

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that question answered, this is an
extremely important

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extremely important piece of
legislation,

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extremely important piece of
legislation,

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extremely important piece of
legislation, part

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legislation, part of the healing
process. I

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legislation, part of the healing
process. I

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legislation, part of the healing
process. I commend it to the House.

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legislation, part of the healing
process. I commend it to the House.

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process. I commend it to the House.
I

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process. I commend it to the House.
I call

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process. I commend it to the House.
I call Dr

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process. I commend it to the House.
I call Dr Duncan Webb. Madam

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process. I commend it to the House.
I call Dr Duncan Webb. Madam

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process. I commend it to the House.
I call Dr Duncan Webb. Madam Chair

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I call Dr Duncan Webb. Madam Chair
it's a short point I

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I call Dr Duncan Webb. Madam Chair
it's a short point I

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it's a short point I would like to
put

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it's a short point I would like to
put

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it's a short point I would like to
put to the minister. It

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it's a short point I would like to
put to the minister. It

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it's a short point I would like to
put to the minister. It is around

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it's a short point I would like to
put to the minister. It is around

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put to the minister. It is around
clause 5

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put to the minister. It is around
clause 5 of

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put to the minister. It is around
clause 5 of the act

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put to the minister. It is around
clause 5 of the act

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put to the minister. It is around
clause 5 of the act which defines

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put to the minister. It is around
clause 5 of the act which defines

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clause 5 of the act which defines
historical homosexual offences.

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clause 5 of the act which defines
historical homosexual offences. My

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historical homosexual offences. My
concern is that

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historical homosexual offences. My
concern is that

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historical homosexual offences. My
concern is that there are

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historical homosexual offences. My
concern is that there are a

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concern is that there are a number
of offences

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concern is that there are a number
of offences

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concern is that there are a number
of offences which

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concern is that there are a number
of offences which may

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concern is that there are a number
of offences which may have been

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concern is that there are a number
of offences which may have been

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concern is that there are a number
of offences which may have been led

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of offences which may have been led
to

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of offences which may have been led
to

468
00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:27,500
of offences which may have been led
to conviction but which

469
00:05:27,500 --> 00:05:28,000
of offences which may have been led
to conviction but which

470
00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:28,500
of offences which may have been led
to conviction but which don't fall

471
00:05:28,500 --> 00:05:29,000
of offences which may have been led
to conviction but which don't fall

472
00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:30,500
to conviction but which don't fall
within