WEBVTT 00:00:21.820 --> 00:00:23.260 【娜塔莉·朱伯格】把任何你所做的東西 拿出來展示是非常勇敢的。 00:00:23.260 --> 00:00:24.560 00:00:25.300 --> 00:00:29.580 把自我和作品區分開來並不容易。 00:00:29.580 --> 00:00:32.460 作品在何處結束,而我又在何處開始? 00:00:33.300 --> 00:00:34.880 聽起來很庸俗。 00:00:35.200 --> 00:00:35.930 【漢斯·伯格】不,但是 00:00:35.940 --> 00:00:37.160 [娜塔莉·朱伯格]雖然事實如此。 00:00:37.160 --> 00:00:38.160 (笑聲) 00:00:39.180 --> 00:00:43.840 【娜塔莉·朱伯格和漢斯·伯格分享他們的感受】 00:00:47.860 --> 00:00:48.980 【我要吃了你。】 00:00:50.520 --> 00:00:51.640 【我要把你整個吞掉。】 00:00:52.980 --> 00:00:55.680 【漢斯·伯格】給這個電影配樂是有些傷感的。 00:00:56.140 --> 00:00:57.140 感覺非常脆弱。 00:00:57.140 --> 00:00:57.980 【我把你薄薄攤開。】 00:00:58.680 --> 00:01:00.520 【我甚至不曾留下一絲殘渣。】 00:01:01.460 --> 00:01:03.000 【朱伯格】當我製作它的時候, 並沒有覺得非常私人化。 00:01:03.000 --> 00:01:04.340 00:01:05.020 --> 00:01:06.500 在畫廊裡看到它時,才感覺它是非常私人化的 00:01:06.820 --> 00:01:07.960 00:01:07.960 --> 00:01:09.820 感覺好像是,“唉,我很抱歉。” 00:01:09.820 --> 00:01:10.640 (笑聲) 00:01:10.680 --> 00:01:13.260 【羞恥】 00:01:23.840 --> 00:01:26.780 【朱伯格】羞恥是我的主導情感之一。 00:01:30.400 --> 00:01:33.420 羞恥感經常存在於整個製作過程中。 00:01:33.420 --> 00:01:36.100 00:01:36.680 --> 00:01:38.420 開始時是一個想法。 00:01:38.420 --> 00:01:40.680 感覺非常非常的紮實。 00:01:41.260 --> 00:01:42.040 並非如此。 00:01:42.660 --> 00:01:45.060 我要花上一些時間 00:01:45.060 --> 00:01:46.580 來接受它。 00:01:47.420 --> 00:01:49.720 00:01:49.720 --> 00:01:55.500 00:01:57.100 --> 00:02:00.440 00:02:00.440 --> 00:02:01.300 00:02:01.300 --> 00:02:04.620 00:02:08.560 --> 00:02:11.300 00:02:22.580 --> 00:02:24.280 00:02:24.280 --> 00:02:26.680 00:02:26.690 --> 00:02:27.980 00:02:27.980 --> 00:02:29.280 00:02:35.140 --> 00:02:38.760 00:02:38.760 --> 00:02:39.920 00:02:39.920 --> 00:02:41.709 00:02:41.709 --> 00:02:43.500 00:02:44.420 --> 00:02:45.920 00:02:45.920 --> 00:02:47.300 00:02:47.720 --> 00:02:50.760 00:02:50.760 --> 00:02:53.680 00:02:53.680 --> 00:02:57.440 00:03:05.760 --> 00:03:07.740 00:03:17.560 --> 00:03:20.400 00:03:26.600 --> 00:03:30.260 00:03:30.260 --> 00:03:31.260 00:03:31.260 --> 00:03:32.260 00:03:32.860 --> 00:03:36.080 00:03:36.080 --> 00:03:37.440 00:03:37.440 --> 00:03:39.560 00:03:40.800 --> 00:03:43.960 00:03:43.960 --> 00:03:44.640 00:03:44.640 --> 00:03:45.660 00:03:45.660 --> 00:03:46.400 00:03:49.100 --> 00:03:52.500 00:03:52.500 --> 00:03:53.520 00:03:53.520 --> 00:03:54.920 00:03:54.920 --> 00:03:56.740 00:03:59.840 --> 00:04:01.880 00:04:01.880 --> 00:04:04.020 00:04:08.540 --> 00:04:11.260 00:04:12.100 --> 00:04:13.870 00:04:13.870 --> 00:04:16.340 00:04:17.040 --> 00:04:18.180 00:04:18.180 --> 00:04:20.780 00:04:29.320 --> 00:04:31.920 00:04:31.930 --> 00:04:35.010 00:04:35.010 --> 00:04:37.510 00:04:37.510 --> 00:04:38.420 00:04:39.100 --> 00:04:40.680 00:04:44.340 --> 00:04:48.540 00:04:48.540 --> 00:04:49.900 00:04:55.000 --> 00:04:58.840 00:04:58.849 --> 00:05:01.280 00:05:01.280 --> 00:05:04.040 00:05:05.140 --> 00:05:08.300 00:05:09.300 --> 00:05:11.200 00:05:11.920 --> 00:05:13.820 00:05:15.800 --> 00:05:17.320 00:05:17.320 --> 00:05:19.600 00:05:19.600 --> 00:05:21.169 00:05:21.169 --> 00:05:24.980 00:05:26.580 --> 00:05:27.280