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展現自己所做的一切

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挺需要勇氣的

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要劃清作品與自我之間的界線很難

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何時是作品的完結和自身的開始？

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聽起來好老土

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沒啦，不過⋯⋯

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但卻是真的

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Nathalie Djurberg 與Hans Berg的感受分享

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[我把你吃掉]

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[把你啃食殆盡]

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要為這電影作曲讓人有點悲傷

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感覺很脆弱

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[我讓你無從抵抗]

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[連渣都不剩]

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當我在做的時候

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並沒有太大感覺

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看著它在畫廊播放

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那時就很深刻了

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感覺就是：噢，我很抱歉

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[恥辱]

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「羞恥」是我最主要的感受之一

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整個製作過程

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經常會有種羞恥的感覺

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一開始只是個想法

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感覺非常實在的想法

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但並非如此

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我要花一些時間

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去消化這個概念

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但是當我做到後

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卻感覺成品不如那輕幻的想法般完美

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而現在我想我已經清楚意識到

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作品與想法開始有點差距

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[慾望]

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在「如何屠宰一個惡魔」

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我想了很多關於上癮

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和想要得到

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卻無法得到的感覺

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我希望讓配樂與上癮幾乎劃上等號

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十分催眠迷魂

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像一首誘惑之歌

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誘導人去沈溺於某些東西

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想要得到更多

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想要自己沒有的

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想著「我得到了！」的那份喜悅

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轉眼之間就消失了

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那種「我得到了！」的愉悅已經分崩離析過幾回呢？

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那與「這就是天堂」很好地呼應了

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他覺得自己值得擁有一切

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我想用音樂表達出「無恥的贏家」的主題

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他就是贏家

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他就該得到這個結果

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之所以想做出80年代的感覺，是因為這使人感覺一切皆美好

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完美無缺，無憂無慮

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一切都好，直到開始走調

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那是唯一一首讓我聽得羞恥不堪的樂曲

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這就是我要的！

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他以為他永遠都會這樣快樂

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直到遇極而反

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直到你想要更多

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那便不再是天堂了

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[快樂]

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[快樂與絕望]

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這場表演叫做「通往地獄的最後一程」

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你不知道這是否最後一程

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然後你獲得解放

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又或者在這最後一程後

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你就永遠無法再逃離地獄了

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快樂使我們完整

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因為除了快樂

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只有一片虛無

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只是呢⋯⋯

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快樂通常很短暫

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當你狀況差時，你所感覺到的其他感情

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就會永遠持續下去

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不想被困在絕望深淵的恐懼感

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就如同一個厲害的謊言

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每次都把我騙得團團轉

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使我以為所有的感受從未曾維持下去
[在這之後我無能為力]

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[我噎到了]

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[我吞下去了]

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看清真相

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尤其是與自己有關的真相

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可以令人很痛苦

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但這很重要因為在此之後會有更多的自由

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也許吧