WEBVTT 00:00:21.820 --> 00:00:23.260 [娜塔莉·朱伯格] 把任何作品展示在那里 00:00:23.260 --> 00:00:24.560 需要很大的勇气。 00:00:25.300 --> 00:00:29.580 把自己与作品区分 是件困难的事情。 00:00:29.580 --> 00:00:32.460 哪里是作品的结束, 哪里是我的开始? 00:00:33.300 --> 00:00:34.880 听起来很俗气。 00:00:35.200 --> 00:00:35.780 [汉斯·伯格] 不,但是... 00:00:35.840 --> 00:00:37.160 [朱伯格] 那是真的! 00:00:37.160 --> 00:00:38.160 [笑] 00:00:39.180 --> 00:00:43.840 [娜塔莉·朱伯格和汉斯·伯格 分享他们的感觉] 00:00:47.860 --> 00:00:48.980 [我把你吃掉] 00:00:50.520 --> 00:00:51.640 [整个吞了你] 00:00:52.980 --> 00:00:55.680 [伯格] 给这部电影配乐会有点伤感。 00:00:56.140 --> 00:00:57.140 会觉得很脆弱。 00:00:57.140 --> 00:00:57.980 [让你穷于应付] 00:00:58.680 --> 00:01:00.520 [一点渣滓都不留] 00:01:01.460 --> 00:01:03.000 [伯格] 制作的时候 00:01:03.000 --> 00:01:04.340 并不感觉是很私人的东西。 00:01:05.020 --> 00:01:06.500 若是在画廊看到它, 00:01:06.820 --> 00:01:07.960 看着就更私人一些-- 00:01:07.960 --> 00:01:09.820 然后觉得, "哦,真遗憾。" 00:01:09.820 --> 00:01:10.640 [二人笑] 00:01:10.680 --> 00:01:13.260 [羞愧] 00:01:23.840 --> 00:01:26.780 [伯格] “羞愧”是我的主要感受之一, 00:01:30.400 --> 00:01:33.420 制作过程中, 00:01:33.420 --> 00:01:36.100 通常会有羞愧的感觉。 00:01:36.680 --> 00:01:38.420 开始的时候只是一种 00:01:38.420 --> 00:01:40.680 非常非常扎实的想法。 00:01:41.260 --> 00:01:42.040 然而却并非如此。 00:01:42.660 --> 00:01:45.060 00:01:45.060 --> 00:01:46.580 00:01:47.420 --> 00:01:49.720 00:01:49.720 --> 00:01:55.500 00:01:57.100 --> 00:02:00.440 00:02:00.440 --> 00:02:01.300 [笑] 00:02:01.300 --> 00:02:04.620 00:02:08.560 --> 00:02:11.300 [欲望] 00:02:22.580 --> 00:02:24.280 00:02:24.280 --> 00:02:26.680 00:02:26.690 --> 00:02:27.980 00:02:27.980 --> 00:02:29.280 00:02:35.140 --> 00:02:38.760 00:02:38.760 --> 00:02:39.920 00:02:39.920 --> 00:02:41.709 00:02:41.709 --> 00:02:43.500 00:02:44.420 --> 00:02:45.920 00:02:45.920 --> 00:02:47.300 00:02:47.720 --> 00:02:50.760 00:02:50.760 --> 00:02:53.680 00:02:53.680 --> 00:02:57.440 00:03:05.760 --> 00:03:07.740 00:03:17.560 --> 00:03:20.400 00:03:26.600 --> 00:03:30.260 00:03:30.260 --> 00:03:31.260 00:03:31.260 --> 00:03:32.260 00:03:32.860 --> 00:03:36.080 00:03:36.080 --> 00:03:37.440 00:03:37.440 --> 00:03:39.560 00:03:40.800 --> 00:03:43.960 00:03:43.960 --> 00:03:44.640 [齐笑] 00:03:44.640 --> 00:03:45.660 00:03:45.660 --> 00:03:46.400 [齐笑] 00:03:49.100 --> 00:03:52.500 00:03:52.500 --> 00:03:53.520 00:03:53.520 --> 00:03:54.920 00:03:54.920 --> 00:03:56.740 00:03:59.840 --> 00:04:01.880 00:04:01.880 --> 00:04:04.020 00:04:08.540 --> 00:04:11.260 00:04:12.100 --> 00:04:13.870 00:04:13.870 --> 00:04:16.340 00:04:17.040 --> 00:04:18.180 00:04:18.180 --> 00:04:20.780 00:04:29.320 --> 00:04:31.920 00:04:31.930 --> 00:04:35.010 00:04:35.010 --> 00:04:37.510 00:04:37.510 --> 00:04:38.420 00:04:39.100 --> 00:04:40.680 00:04:44.340 --> 00:04:48.540 00:04:48.540 --> 00:04:49.900 00:04:55.000 --> 00:04:58.840 00:04:58.849 --> 00:05:01.280 00:05:01.280 --> 00:05:04.040 00:05:05.140 --> 00:05:08.300 00:05:09.300 --> 00:05:11.200 00:05:11.920 --> 00:05:13.820 00:05:15.800 --> 00:05:17.320 00:05:17.320 --> 00:05:19.600 00:05:19.600 --> 00:05:21.169 00:05:21.169 --> 00:05:24.980 00:05:26.580 --> 00:05:27.280 也许如此。