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[娜塔莉·朱伯格]
把任何作品展示在那里

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需要很大的勇气。

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把自己与作品区分
是件困难的事情。

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哪里是作品的结束，
哪里是我的开始？

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听起来很俗气。

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[汉斯·伯格]
不，但是...

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[朱伯格]
那是真的！

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[笑]

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[娜塔莉·朱伯格和汉斯·伯格
分享他们的感觉]

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[我把你吃掉]

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[整个吞了你]

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[伯格]
给这部电影配乐会有点伤感。

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会觉得很脆弱。

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[让你穷于应付]

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[一点渣滓都不留]

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[朱伯格]
制作的时候

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并不感觉是很私人的东西。

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若是在画廊看到它，

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看着就更私人一些--

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然后觉得，
"哦，真遗憾。"

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[二人笑]

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[羞愧]

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[朱伯格]
“羞愧”是我的主要感受之一，

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制作过程中，

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通常会有羞愧的感觉。

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开始的时候只是一种

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非常非常扎实的想法。

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然而却并非如此。

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要花一点时间

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才能让我适应。

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可我做到一定程度后，

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这件作品不像开始的
虚幻阶段那样完美。

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到现在我更加地
意识到这一点。

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[笑]

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作品有点偏离了初衷。

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[欲望]

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[伯格]
在“怎样杀戮魔鬼”中，

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关于成瘾以及欲望

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我思考了很多

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结果一无所获。

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我想让音乐和
上瘾的声音极其相像。

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应该是非常具有催眠功效而诱人-

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就像女妖塞壬的歌，

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[二人笑]

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[二人笑]

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对被困在失望中的恐惧

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就像个强大的谎言

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次次都把我诳在其中--

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没有一次情感状态会维持下去。
[对要来的情感也束手无策]

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[噎到我了]

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[我咽下去了]

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看到了真相，

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特别是真相与你有关，

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可能是痛苦的，

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但这很重要，因为这其后，
会带来更大的自由...

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也许如此。