WEBVTT 00:00:01.213 --> 00:00:04.176 Hi, my name is Tony, and this is Every Frame A Painting 00:00:08.828 --> 00:00:11.807 The other day, someone asked me to describe my editing process 00:00:12.248 --> 00:00:15.282 So I started talking about organizing footage and doing selects 00:00:15.804 --> 00:00:20.618 And she said, "No, your actual process; like, how do you know when to cut?" 00:00:23.728 --> 00:00:25.347 And I couldn't describe it at all! 00:00:26.025 --> 00:00:28.460 Like a lot of editors, I cut based on instinct 00:00:28.897 --> 00:00:31.567 (Kahn) "Nothing gets in the way of the editing process... 00:00:31.567 --> 00:00:34.567 It's the process of your thinking. 00:00:34.567 --> 00:00:37.450 I don't cut from what I call 'knowledge'. 00:00:37.450 --> 00:00:40.450 I have to come into it and I have to feel it." 00:00:40.450 --> 00:00:44.017 It's the same way for me. I have to think and feel my way through the edit 00:00:45.113 --> 00:00:47.215 So today, I'd like to talk about that process: 00:00:48.010 --> 00:00:49.872 How does an editor think and feel? 00:00:55.356 --> 00:00:58.806 The first thing you need to know is that editing is all about the eyes 00:00:59.123 --> 00:01:02.577 More than any other factor, the eyes tell you the emotion of the scene 00:01:02.688 --> 00:01:04.660 And the great actors understand that they 00:01:04.660 --> 00:01:07.110 Convey more through their eyes than through dialogue 00:01:07.393 --> 00:01:10.343 (Caine) "I said, 'Well, I haven't got anything to say,' 00:01:10.643 --> 00:01:13.607 So he said, 'What do you mean you haven't got anything to say?' 00:01:13.999 --> 00:01:18.321 He says 'Of course you've got things to say! You've got wonderful things to say! 00:01:19.485 --> 00:01:23.671 But you sit there and listen, think of these extraordinary things to say... 00:01:24.707 --> 00:01:26.454 "Elliot, sweetheart!" "Mhm?" 00:01:26.820 --> 00:01:28.939 "Have you tried these? These are wonderful!" 00:01:29.459 --> 00:01:31.851 ...and then decide not to say them! (Laughter) 00:01:32.211 --> 00:01:33.841 That's what you're doing!'" 00:01:33.921 --> 00:01:36.739 And when I'm watching footage, this is what I'm looking for: 00:01:36.968 --> 00:01:39.436 Moments where I can see a change in the actor's eyes 00:01:39.919 --> 00:01:41.472 Like when he's making a decision 00:01:45.575 --> 00:01:49.082 Shots like these are powerful because they work so well with other shots 00:01:49.233 --> 00:01:52.284 For instance, when we cut from his eyes to what he's looking at 00:01:56.567 --> 00:01:59.846 It tells us, without words, what he's thinking 00:02:01.482 --> 00:02:04.063 The next concept was really hard for me to learn: 00:02:04.758 --> 00:02:06.707 Emotions take time 00:02:07.257 --> 00:02:10.240 When we watch people on screen, we feel a connection to them 00:02:10.528 --> 00:02:13.846 And that's because we have time to watch their faces before they speak 00:02:15.197 --> 00:02:16.814 (Speaking Chinese) 00:02:17.724 --> 00:02:19.134 (Door shuts) 00:02:19.544 --> 00:02:21.246 And time to watch them afterwards 00:02:26.219 --> 00:02:30.069 Editors have to decide: "How much time do I give this emotion?" 00:02:31.019 --> 00:02:33.614 So let's try an exercise: look at this shot 00:02:34.027 --> 00:02:35.802 What do you feel while watching this? 00:02:42.734 --> 00:02:43.965 Now let's try it again 00:02:44.393 --> 00:02:46.396 What do you feel while watching this? 00:02:56.375 --> 00:02:57.970 Was it a different emotion? 00:02:59.178 --> 00:03:01.071 Editing is full of decisions like these, 00:03:01.071 --> 00:03:03.305 Where four seconds makes a big difference 00:03:03.587 --> 00:03:06.657 And these choices are difficult. There are no right answers 00:03:07.306 --> 00:03:10.709 Some emotions play better if you see them in a single, continuous shot 00:03:11.085 --> 00:03:18.216 (Speaking Chinese) 00:03:19.287 --> 00:03:22.191 But other emotions play better over multiple shots, 00:03:22.191 --> 00:03:24.411 So you can build up and come down 00:03:24.411 --> 00:03:27.497 Consider this scene, where Luke Skywalker tests his skill 00:03:28.231 --> 00:03:29.555 (Breathes out) 00:03:30.285 --> 00:03:34.053 To make this simpler, let's just focus on how long each shot is held for 00:03:38.683 --> 00:03:42.547 Notice that as we build, each shot gets shorter and shorter towards the climax 00:03:43.207 --> 00:03:44.731 (Inspirational music playing) 00:03:48.225 --> 00:03:49.321 (R2 beeps) 00:03:49.993 --> 00:03:52.849 But after five shots, we hit the peak and start coming down 00:03:54.930 --> 00:03:56.540 (Yoda sighs softly, sadly) 00:03:59.240 --> 00:04:02.924 Not only are the shots getting longer again, they're actually held for longer 00:04:02.924 --> 00:04:04.324 than they were the first time 00:04:05.160 --> 00:04:09.290 And this whole sequence spends about 15 seconds going up, but twice that amount 00:04:09.290 --> 00:04:14.164 coming down, so that we, the audience, have time to feel Luke's failure 00:04:15.319 --> 00:04:18.468 (Breathing heavily) "I can't, it's too big." 00:04:19.240 --> 00:04:21.376 But what happens if you shorten this timing? 00:04:21.556 --> 00:04:24.486 Let's take a look at a very similar scene, done more recently 00:04:24.787 --> 00:04:26.846 See if you can feel the difference 00:04:33.616 --> 00:04:35.457 (Hank) You can do it Scott, come on! 00:04:36.879 --> 00:04:37.650 (Ant laughs) 00:04:38.994 --> 00:04:40.779 (Scott) They're not listening to me! 00:04:41.043 --> 00:04:42.566 Did you believe that emotion? 00:04:42.748 --> 00:04:47.815 Because in this scene, Scott's failure took 30 frames 00:04:48.872 --> 00:04:51.355 By comparison, Luke Skywalker's failure 00:04:55.568 --> 00:04:56.919 Took 30 seconds 00:04:59.809 --> 00:05:01.371 People aren't machines, 00:05:01.371 --> 00:05:03.331 We need time to feel the emotion, 00:05:03.771 --> 00:05:05.841 And if the movie doesn't give it to us... 00:05:06.291 --> 00:05:07.555 We don't believe it. 00:05:07.645 --> 00:05:10.967 (Schoonmaker) "And I'm finding in movies, recently, that I've seen, 00:05:11.217 --> 00:05:13.297 A lot of things I don't believe. 00:05:13.297 --> 00:05:16.428 I think people are sticking stuff out there 00:05:16.788 --> 00:05:18.648 And asking you to believe it, 00:05:18.648 --> 00:05:20.578 But they're not making you believe it." 00:05:20.998 --> 00:05:23.106 And making it believable is really hard. 00:05:23.322 --> 00:05:24.340 (Man) "Let Red go." 00:05:25.284 --> 00:05:28.057 Because timing is not a conscious process, 00:05:28.057 --> 00:05:29.837 You're just responding to the fact 00:05:29.837 --> 00:05:32.597 That every shot has a natural rhythm 00:05:34.175 --> 00:05:35.484 (Three gunshots) 00:05:35.622 --> 00:05:36.672 (Wood breaking) 00:05:38.604 --> 00:05:42.647 (Murch) "There's an in-built relationship between the story itself and 00:05:42.647 --> 00:05:46.017 How to tell a story, and the rhythm with which you tell it, 00:05:46.017 --> 00:05:48.937 And editing is... 00:05:48.937 --> 00:05:51.717 70% about rhythm." 00:05:52.207 --> 00:05:54.358 (Man yelling at woman) 00:05:56.119 --> 00:05:57.960 Sometimes the rhythm is obvious, 00:05:57.960 --> 00:06:01.060 Like when the actor is doing something really physical 00:06:01.210 --> 00:06:05.580 (Music intensifying) 00:06:09.210 --> 00:06:11.550 But other times it's quite subtle 00:06:11.550 --> 00:06:14.760 For instance, the rhythm of people walking back and forth 00:06:15.712 --> 00:06:20.706 Or the rhythm of a restaurant, with cooks, customers, waitresses... 00:06:22.564 --> 00:06:25.440 These rhythms are closer to what we feel in everyday life, 00:06:25.440 --> 00:06:27.553 And, I actually think they're harder to edit 00:06:28.429 --> 00:06:32.101 But if you watch anything over and over again, you eventually feel the moment 00:06:32.101 --> 00:06:34.355 When the shot wants you to cut 00:06:42.654 --> 00:06:45.916 Classical Hollywood editing is all about cutting with the rhythm 00:06:46.393 --> 00:06:49.462 And this is what we mean when we say that editing is invisible 00:06:50.205 --> 00:06:52.224 The cut happens so naturally 00:06:52.987 --> 00:06:56.011 (Man) "Now is there anything else you'd like to know about me?" 00:06:56.011 --> 00:06:57.233 That you don't notice it. 00:06:57.420 --> 00:06:59.661 (Man) "Would you like to go over to my room?" 00:07:00.013 --> 00:07:02.074 But you don't always have to be invisible 00:07:02.281 --> 00:07:05.151 Some emotions play better if you cut in a jarring way, 00:07:05.151 --> 00:07:07.031 Like if someone is agitated 00:07:07.031 --> 00:07:14.300 (Heels clicking on floor) 00:07:15.430 --> 00:07:16.817 And other moments play better 00:07:16.817 --> 00:07:19.437 If you actually cut to make the audience uncomfortable. 00:07:19.727 --> 00:07:27.257 (Water sizzling) 00:07:27.907 --> 00:07:31.887 (Schoonmaker) "One of the things Marty's always encouraged us to do is to 00:07:31.887 --> 00:07:35.130 Sometimes hold just a little bit too long... 00:07:35.259 --> 00:07:40.219 (Water sizzling) 00:07:40.402 --> 00:07:43.141 And then make a cut, if it's justified." 00:07:44.138 --> 00:07:48.040 What really matters is, what reaction you want from people 00:07:50.747 --> 00:07:52.667 (Two gunshots) 00:07:55.814 --> 00:07:59.138 Because sometimes, you can only get that with an unusual cut 00:08:02.910 --> 00:08:04.909 And that brings me to my last point: 00:08:04.909 --> 00:08:08.220 If editing is so instinctive, how do you learn it? 00:08:08.640 --> 00:08:10.200 I only know one way: 00:08:10.799 --> 00:08:11.939 Practice. 00:08:12.227 --> 00:08:15.340 (Murch) "And editing is very similar to dance in that way, 00:08:15.702 --> 00:08:18.592 You can explain the rudiments of dance, 00:08:19.056 --> 00:08:21.868 But to really learn how to dance, you have to dance." 00:08:22.571 --> 00:08:23.874 You have to cut. 00:08:23.874 --> 00:08:26.905 And as you cut, you'll develop a sense of rhythm and emotion 00:08:26.905 --> 00:08:28.755 That's unique to you. 00:08:28.938 --> 00:08:31.698 I've been doing it for ten years and I'm still not there 00:08:31.872 --> 00:08:35.728 But whenever I'm frustrated by an edit, I think about something Michael Khan said 00:08:35.758 --> 00:08:37.875 (Khan) "The beautiful thing about editing is, 00:08:37.875 --> 00:08:40.415 I guess maybe writers feel that way, 00:08:40.415 --> 00:08:43.940 I see all that film up there, doesn't matter, I'm doing one piece at a time 00:08:45.004 --> 00:08:47.078 One scene at a time, one cut at a time. 00:08:47.410 --> 00:08:50.107 And there's a lot of film, I just do one thing at a time." 00:08:50.237 --> 00:08:52.130 So take it one shot at a time, 00:08:52.684 --> 00:08:54.404 Because if you watch any image, 00:08:55.066 --> 00:08:56.516 (Man) "You really care?" 00:08:56.982 --> 00:08:58.962 You'll see it has an emotion and a rhythm 00:08:59.062 --> 00:09:03.830 (Woman sniffing and breathing heavy) 00:09:06.151 --> 00:09:07.174 And you have to feel... 00:09:07.637 --> 00:09:08.378 When... 00:09:08.578 --> 00:09:09.568 To...